Mini 715: Legends of Literature Mafia (Over)

[neko2086]

/confirm

[neko2086]

vote: CarnCarn

That's a ridiculous reason to not want to massclaim.

[neko2086]

I've heard caboose's definition used as the chainsaw defense elsewhere.

when we end up hitting a townie.

unvote; vote:Riceballtail

[neko2086]

No, I don't know if Sly is a townie. I'm saying that we could be back on square one if sly or caboose are townies, as this entire argument will have ended up fairly fruitless.

You didn't say if, you said when. I think you slipped.



I'd love to vote sly, but I can't yet tell if this is his usual style of play. The last time I played with him, he pretty much single-handedly drove two players to replace out, one being TSQ. So, at the moment I think RBT is more likely scum.


Thanks for joining us, ghostwriter. Anything else you'd like to add now that you're chiming in?

We still haven't heard from mada, I'd like to note.

[neko2086]

Civility is overrated. It's also a nice way of saying that you'd rather not step on any toes, which can actually be pretty scummy if you consider that a townie is much more expendable to the town than a scumperson is to the mafia, therefore a townie has much less reason to worry about stepping on toes.

Arguing for the sake of arguing is a great way to fluster scum and make them slip up. Arguing is really the only tool we have. This isn't the red hat society.

Hogwash: vaquero

(p.s., that was a joke, not a PR claim, so calm down)

[neko2086]

I would hope not. The mod can fix it.

[neko2086]

Catching up!

There's a cop and a tracker in a 12 player game? I find that a little hard to swallow.

Could be a mafia tracker. Obviously he'd be lying about watching sly then.

These mini themes have to have the set-up approved, don't they? I highly doubt anyone would let a death miller

and

a miller in a set-up fly. At any rate, Der Hammer would kill his modding career and reputation on MS doing so.

CC, you are amazing. Never have I seen anyone defend dead scum until now. Tenchi and vaquero both make me nervous because of their tentativeness, More so Tench with that last "Huge FOS." Really? He's not at l-1 so just vote him. There's a good bit of difference between playing smart and playing too carefully, and I'm getting the feeling that at least one of the two of you is trying real hard not to step on any toes.

CC, though... You lay out a case on somebody and you expect others

not/i] to comment on it? I also was under the impression that this was intended to be up for discussion. I dunno, maybe it was because you said

I will shortly compile the list of reasons why rofl is scum

beforehand, which implies that it was fair game for commentary. Now you're saying it's not, and you're FOSing people for commenting on it, so... Really?

vote: CarnCarn

[neko2086]

RBT, just claim the fricking book and author.

There is some info that town should try to deprive scum of (like a power role, which you've already given), but for the most part, it's the town that's in the dark, and any light you can shed is helpful. In this case, I don't know how helpful it will really be, but I also find it strange you are so adamant about not speaking up.

Now claim already so we can see where Jazz is going with this. The only oddity about your nameclaim I can see doesn't point to any alignment, but maybe I'm missing something.

[neko2086]

Caboose, when you say Sim is "falling fast," do you mean looking scummier or less scummy?

But really though, his lurking through both days bothers me, as well as his unwillingness to be on neither the SlySly or RBT wagons.

If I were to get on the RBT wagon right now, that'd be a hammer, and discussions is clearly not done yet, so calm down. You're not on the RBT wagon either, so I'm not sure what the hell you're trying to imply anyway... You're acting as though we already know that RBT is scum and that I must be scum because I've avoided the wagon. So... where does that put you?


About RBT - he has yet to provide a good reason to be voting rofl. So far, his reasoning is 'I'm a townie and he's trying to lynch me,' which is blatant omgus. I'll hammer if necessary, but I still like my vote better.

[neko2086]

I switched to vote you here to see what would happen

So what happened?


Caboose, in case you didn't see it in the other game I'm playing with ya... it's been a pleasure. Sorry to see you go.

[neko2086]

whose replacement are you looking for? Caboose is asking not to be replaced now.

If people can't get their night actions in on time, that's too bad for them. They don't get to make a night choice. Otherwise, I think some mods randomly make the choice for them, but check w/ somebody experienced on that.

There should be no reason to abandon.

[neko2086]

rofl, why do you not see gw as the possible last scum, if that is our setup (I don't see how a sk would make sense given the pace of nks)?


Sim, I still don't see what it is about Tenchi's role we would need to know. Isn't it enough and safe to assume he was playing for the mafia but the mafia wasn't aware he was part of their team? He was part of both the sly and rbt wagons, so he has clearly done some bussing.

Interesting to note that vaquero was his third choice and now Sim is trying to stop any bussing-strategy speculation.

[neko2086]

CC, I was in favor of massclaiming since page 1.

I'll maintain that speculating on tenchi's possible bussing is terrible play.

Sim, could you please provide some sort of reasoning for that?

[neko2086]

GW, pick the next person to claim

[neko2086]

rofl, can you answer my question from the last page, please?


Jazz, after everyone has claimed, you're going to need to elaborate on your suspicion of Sim's claim.

[neko2086]

rofl, just humor me. What, before the claim, led you to that conclusion?

[neko2086]

I'm M from the James Bond series by Ian Fleming. Vanilla townie.

IcemanE is next.



Rofl, I missed the mason w/ carn part of gw's claim, so nevermind.

[neko2086]

I know. I was kinda disappointed when I got my role. I don't know where everyone is getting the idea that our novels have to be

classic

literature, though. This is "Legends of Literature" and the opening flavor post describes an author pooling together characters from his favorite books. As an English major, I wouldn't call the JB series

literature

per se, but it fits the vague limits of the theme.

Quite frankly, the claimed books are so all over the board, the one that seems the most out of place is Moby Dick. Seems like the most likely fakeclaim.

Jazz, thanks for clarifying the RBT thing. That's kinda what I thought you were going after, but it didn't seem like a huge issue to me. I have M from James Bond, so I was already questioning the mod's taste/knowledge/definition of literature (sorry, DH).

[neko2086]

Hmm, still not seeing how Moby Dick is out of place in Legends of Literature - especially coming from James Bond!

See, I'm not even James Bond, though, which is getting to my point:

Everyone here has a pretty... out of the ordinary, non-obvious character, except for you. Ishmael from Moby Dick is pretty obvious, so it seems more likely as a faked claim.

[neko2086]

caboose, earlier you also included Jazz in your list of possible suspects. What changed?

[neko2086]

Why not? Lenny's not an entirely innocent character.

Also, what's so badass about Dr. Dolittle? I'm not sure we can simply go off of how "good" a character is.

[neko2086]

^Same as mine.


Any reason why we don't think Sim could be the SK (other than he could be the cop but lying about it?)

[neko2086]

hmm. ice is looking to be the most likely scum, and his claim still seems the most likely to be faked.

vote: IcemanE

[neko2086]

Which is exactly why it is the most likely fake claim given the other roles present. Why is this so hard to understand?

[neko2086]

Just look at the other characters here. None of them are obvious characters that first come to mind when one thinks legends of lit, and few of them are even main characters. This is the motley crew of legends of lit, except for Ishmael. It seems the most likely one that somebody would have said, "Oh shit, I need a fakeclaim, so, I'll pick a really famous book and its main character."

That's all there is to it.

[neko2086]

Look, I don't see anyone else as being likely to be the SK, so I'd vote you anyway, but I'm comforted by the feeling that your claim seems the most likely to be faked, like,

'I need to claim a famous book... ok, Moby Dick... Call me Ishmael...'

Narrator with famous name/main character, little difference in

this

context. You don't need to tell me what the difference is in the world of literature.

[neko2086]

Woohoo!

ice, again, the claim wasn't the main reason for you being lynched. It was really coming down to you, me, and sim, and it was clear lynching you first was preferable to lynching sim. The claim just made me feel better about it.