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Small question: What's 'tbh'?
I'm all for reverse-lynching, but I don't if it will work on NPCs, simply for the fact that they're, well... NPCs. And I'm just wondering how the game would be fair if we could resurrect players. It would just be a trial and error process of going through all the players until we found scum. I think it's more of stopping a lynch then resurrection.
I consider Time replacing out as a null tell, but I wasn't a fan of the personal insults. Freaking out and becoming agressive is also a null tell in my opinion. Given that I haven't played with him before. I'll take a look at Mental War mafia, though.
Positive vote: Grimmy
I don't like his reasoning for lynching Time - finding a replacement won't hold up the game that much. :/-
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Wanting to lynch someone solely because of information. And how much will we really gain from that, anyway?populartajo wrote:
And what did I do for be lynchworthy?ShadowGirl wrote:
Well, I would rather lynch someone because they're scummy as opposed to the lynch just giving us information. :/ I mean, Time hasn't really done much wrong other then a bit of weird play at the beginning.tajo wrote:Why?-
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Couldn't the same be said for you, that your wagon would be full of information as well? :/populartajo wrote:
Read post 153. Emphasis in "this exact moment"ShadowGirl wrote:
Wanting to lynch someone solely because of information. And how much will we really gain from that, anyway?populartajo wrote:
And what did I do for be lynchworthy?ShadowGirl wrote:
Well, I would rather lynch someone because they're scummy as opposed to the lynch just giving us information. :/ I mean, Time hasn't really done much wrong other then a bit of weird play at the beginning.tajo wrote:Why?
Does that make me scum? Really?
Anyway, I'm a bit too scatterbrained trying to do homework and pay attention to this game. I'll post tommorow~
Oops, guess my unvote unvoted both my votes.
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Not... really, seeing as I'm not really sure what reasons you're pushing at. I assume they're these two: [If there are any more, tell me.]Shadowgirl, happy with my reasons?
- Erg0 is an informative lynch: You've yet to actually say what we learn depending on his alignment.
- Wagon reasoning point: This one is a little more valid, as seeing who is genuinely on a wagon because they believe the person is scum or because they're merely following the crowd is good, however... It seems you're the one who's trying to lynch someone based on a bad reason. :/-
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We're not talking about what info we're gaining from tajo's lynch.Do I have to give you everything? Assuming, you are really scumhunting, what information could you gather of Ergo's and Tajo's possible lynch?
And I'm not going to answer that question for you, especially since I believe three people have asked you for it. You're the one who says the lynch is informative - you're the one who has to explain themselves, not get other people to do it for you.
I don't mean bad, but more of a weak reason.What bad reason?!!-
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Short post, sorry - homework. Comment more tommorow.
Not liking the wagon vote. :/TonyMontana wrote:
a) scum buddy up to townsfolk.populartajo wrote:This doesnt make sense becuase a)if there's buddying then both have to be scum not just one and b)it was so fucking early to tell who is scum and who isnt with that degree of certainty.......
If we are lynching people primarily for information, I find your lynch very educational, Tajo.
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positive vote:populartajo
- A bit early for the claim, in my opinion since I don't believe a speedlynch is likely to happen without you claiming. Still, I don't think we should be throwing away power roles at this point. It may be hard to prove, but...-
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I'm not saying I completely believe it, and nowhere in my post do I say so. I'm saying that with no way to prove it at the moment we should keep you around since we shouldn't waste PRs. Don't twist my words, thank you.populartajo wrote:
Hey girl, you believed my claim quite fast, huh?ShadowGirl wrote:Short post, sorry - homework. Comment more tommorow.
Not liking the wagon vote. :/TonyMontana wrote:
a) scum buddy up to townsfolk.populartajo wrote:This doesnt make sense becuase a)if there's buddying then both have to be scum not just one and b)it was so fucking early to tell who is scum and who isnt with that degree of certainty.......
If we are lynching people primarily for information, I find your lynch very educational, Tajo.
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positive vote:populartajo
- A bit early for the claim, in my opinion since I don't believe a speedlynch is likely to happen without you claiming. Still, I don't think we should be throwing away power roles at this point. It may be hard to prove, but...
And Battousai, Im confused in a)why do you think the things you cited for voting me are scumtells and b)why do you think my claim cant be proved?-
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It does sound pretty standard. :/Muerrto wrote:TonyMontana wrote:Well, I guess the fact that a line from his claim was identical (As in word for word) to my own town role was what I took notice of first. It's somewhat of a common phrase for pro-town role PMs, and I'm unsure of if you could assume it's being used, judging from what you get as a scum.
Still, mine was worded much the same.-
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I didn't say you did. I'm asking you.populartajo wrote:
When did I say that?ShadowGirl wrote:
Because he doesn't agree that said single line in your pm proves you to be town?populartajo wrote:Thats why I asked who believed and who didnt believe my claim. Apparently Muerrto has another win condition...-
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I'm a little suspicious of how quick Tony was to back up on it, but...
Anyway, having another win condition different then ours doesn't mean he's necessarily scum...? Though I don't know what roles that would benificial to town that don't have the same condition as 'us'. [Townies.]
Positive vote: Muerrto-
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Done a reread and the only person that really stands out to me is Tony:
And what specific information would we be gaining? I don't care if this situation is long gone, I'd like to hear what your thoughts were on it since you didn't divulge them.TonyMontana wrote:
a) scum buddy up to townsfolk.populartajo wrote:This doesnt make sense becuase a)if there's buddying then both have to be scum not just one and b)it was so fucking early to tell who is scum and who isnt with that degree of certainty.......
If we are lynching people primarily for information, I find your lynch very educational, Tajo.
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positive vote:populartajo
You should at least explain your unvote and instead of just saying unvote. :/TonyMontana wrote:
The buddy comment was not related to the vote. And I unvoted because I believe Tajo's claim.nhat wrote:Meanwhile, TonyMontana is looking odd. Votes tajo for trying to buddy up with someone, then he abruptly unvotes. I think he's got some splainin to do.
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Hn. I'm not so keen on killing off on lynching a potential power role needlessly on the first day, and I'm not so convinced as Muerrto being scum either. Anyway, from rereading the last few pages it seems you and tajo do have the same win condition.
I'm really most suspicious of Tony, who has simply been hopping on the past couple wagons without much reasoning. And Tony, you missed my single question on post 297.-
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They why would you use that sentence?TonyMontana wrote:I didn't have any information in mind. It was just a counter-punch to Tajo saying he wanted info from an ergo lynch.
You must have had something in mind. Especially because youIf we are lynching people primarily for information, I find your lynch very educational, Tajo.
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positive vote:populartajovotedhim for said reason.
Mm, where is Grimmy?
So, for the moment:
postive vote: Tony-
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If you were scum and he were town, then he would have no reason to lie about it. And thus, I wouldn't say it's quite so preposterous to make a move that would make you look cleared.Tony wrote:Look, the only viable buddy scenario here is that I am scum (with uncharacteristically good skills).
That Tajo guessed the win condition is highly unlikely to start with, but that I made a play to point out the validity of the condition, without being able to know if it's right is downright preposterous.
It sort of is, but - really, Tony proved it was not a standard win condition, not you.Tajo wrote:I already proved its not a standard win condition.
But if scum got the townie pm, then wouldn't townies get the scum pm? That seems more... normal. Then again, I guess this game isn't really normal. :/-
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Why are we assuming he guessed it? If he's town he would know it.TonyMontana wrote:
Read again.ShadowGirl wrote:
If you were scum and he were town, then he would have no reason to lie about it. And thus, I wouldn't say it's quite so preposterous to make a move that would make you look cleared.Tony wrote:Look, the only viable buddy scenario here is that I am scum (with uncharacteristically good skills).
That Tajo guessed the win condition is highly unlikely to start with, but that I made a play to point out the validity of the condition, without being able to know if it's right is downright preposterous.-
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I'm just trying to think of how PRs would have different win conditions, unless they're some third party role. I mean, obviously I don't want to out any PRs, but Tony, I'm just sort of getting the vibe that you want to put the win condition discussion under the rug so you don't accidentally slip up anywhere.-
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Not the same, different. Well, find scum and possibly any SKs or other detrimental roles to town. You don't want the discussion to continue, why not?TonyMontana wrote:Look, Shadowgirl, what do you expect to learn from a reveal of who has the same win condition?
@Tajo: My suspicion is still on Tony for reasons I've said before: wagonning, being generally evasive [or not reading the thread], and you not wanting to discuss the conditions is a little odd - or at least not giving any reason as to why you don't want to.
Mod, can we have a prod on Erg0, Batt?
I'll release one upon Erg0. I notice Battousai does not need one.-
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Because I hadn't realized exactly how long it had been since they'd posted. This game has lagged a bit, if you haven't noticed. Batt posted in the last page, and it doesn't seem like that long since then. And Erg0 doesn't seem to be posting much anywhere. :/
As I've said before - Yes, I'm leaning towards believing your claim - that doesn't mean I completely consider it true.
Hm, I haven't gotten much of a read on Muerrto for one way or the other, really. I'll think I'll do a small reread on him.-
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@Falcone: Yes, I do have the same win condition as him.
But why would PRs have different win conditions? I can only think that it's logical that third party and scum would have different conditions. And don't worry about tony blending back in - I've got my on him.Batt wrote:If we discuss alternate win conditions, the scum/third party roles (who already have a different win condition) will know who has different conditions, and may choose to kill those people off to try and kill all the town powerroles. If tony is scum, he could also take this chance to not only appear to be helping the town, but to get the discussion off of him and tajo claiming to have the same win condition and the likes and try to blend in again.
What, so are you saying the most logical conclusion is that he's not scum and indeed the watcher?Muerrto wrote:Choice A, he's town and a watcher. Choice B is retarded. Scum with a town win condition? Why the hell would you have a town win condition as scum? Choice C is also retarded. Guessing the number between 1-1000 is lucky. Guessing that you win as town when all threats are elimanated etc is NOT lucky, it's obvious. I have no clue where this 1 in 5 crap came from and sadly, neither does Tajo. Read back, that statistic was given by Tony, not Tajo. Tajo simply ran with it because it painted him in a better light.-
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This. It seems like two townies in a redundant fight - which is why I don't have much interest in voting either of you.CP wrote:I find that right now both of you are locked in on the same OMGUS argument of "you're not scumhunting because you are just going after me". I would like to hear your guys' opinions on the other people in this game. Tajo said before what he thought of everyone, but it has been a while since, and this whole thing between you two could have brought more information out. Muerrto, you haven't really stated opinions on much more than tajo and time all game. I would really like to see your thoughts.
Is it just me, or does Tony just seem to be here for small bouts of time?
Jimmy needs more votes. Won't you vote Jimmy? <3-
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This. Seeing as how this game is starting to a lag a bit, I wouldn't mind speeding it up a bit [not so fast that we just lynch anybody to end the day]. Still, hopefully we get a Voodoo replacement but it took awhile to get one for nhat...CP wrote:@Batt - I think the longer we go the more information we will get, but it will also cause people to lose interest in the game. I just came in so I am not burned out on D1, but I will agree if the people that have been in this game from early on want to end the day. I would say wait until Voodoo gets replaced, but I don't know how long that is going to take.-
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This becomes a tell depending on the person. Tajo seems to be the person who gets angry even as a town, so I'm not so sure if this would be a tell for him... (I'd reference, but it's an ongoing game.)Muerrto wrote:1. Anger can be townie but it is usually scum that stoop to insulting other's arguments when they're not able to formulate their fake defense.
@Grimmy: Hmm... I'm starting to think it's be more subtle buddying and trying to create a link between them. Really, if Tony flips scum who would the next person be that we would take a hard look at? [At this point, anyway.] Tajo.-
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Prod on pickem? Tajo has the rest covered.
Whoosh! (onomatapoeias is fun)
So you feel strongly about tajo not being scum?TonyMontana wrote:Because i can. What's the point of having negative vote powers, if you're not gonna use em to promote your intentions? -.-
Will read over what's been said from my last post - must get off.-
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