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Sorry, it took me a while to find this thread.
And sorry for the following...
(I will be away for three days in the coming week as my family and I are visiting my grandmother - Right now it looks like I will be away Monday morning to Wednesday evening but that can change - Sorry if this causes any problems.)
To answer the countess, I make a fair living... you wouldn't just be interested in me for my money now would you?....Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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I think it's almost safe to say that I'm a little bit more confused now then I was before catching up....
So we have a player he wrongly thought he was lynched and partially claimed...
(oddly this happened in two of my games while I was away)
While I believe that Zwet's (Mrs.) post could be a typo I'm not sure how strongly I believe it.
While I myself often mess up in day to day use of mrs and miss (which would lead me to believe that it very well could have been a typo/error), if I was to claim like Zwet's did I would have first looked at my role pm and taken my name directly from there (leading me to believe slightly more that it could have been a scum slip and not an error).
Turning to those who are voting Zwets, although I think it is very possible (if Zwet's isn't scum himself) that at least one of our scum is on his wagon, there are also likely many protown members too. If I had been here I might have been one of them... I'm not sure what to do with my vote right now to be honest...
The lynching of a player and his/her fellow table partner really puts an interesting twist on this game...Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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Max says we move one place, but I don't see where it says which way.Max wrote:Pre-Game
I don't think I said this in the rules but:
Each hour is precisely three weeks if no lynch is reached during this time the lovers move one place. There is no action stage inbetween this stage.
If a lynch is reached within the hour an action stage will take place.
Ie. does someone at table 2 go to table 1 or table 3?Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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So we could end up sitting with anyone of the other gender when seats change?Max wrote:By the way, I meant you move place, it might not be by one space that's an error in the rules.
... Well then...
...wait, just checking something else, there isn't any night actions until we actually lynch someone is there?
Max wrote:Pre-Game
I don't think I said this in the rules but:
Each hour is precisely three weeks if no lynch is reached during this time the lovers move one place. There is no action stage inbetween this stage.
If a lynch is reached within the hour an action stage will take place.Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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Yes KMD has contributed a lot, but I'm not so sure he's exchange with Caboose in
post 333 is that pro town looking. I don't see how it would have hurt to ask EGL to
confirm his role with the mod, especially since you/KMD already made it clear that
you didn't think he was what he was claiming to be.Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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Caboose, Although I agree with almost all of your post, I don't think thatCaboose wrote:Soon after Jebus shows up, zwet's "slip" occurs. Jebus is on the zwet wagon early, by the way. But then, Jebus turns on Kmd...
This comes after Kmd's "hammer." Jebus doesn't waste anytime flinging the bullcrap at Kmd for hammering someone that Jebus knows will flip town.Jebus wrote:So why did it come up as a good idea to hammer zwet without even letting him say very much in defense?
And how the hell did we get to hammertime so quickly?
+scumpoints for Jebus
we can say for certain regarding the first point that Jebus "knew" Zwets
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I'm sorry, maybe I'm missing something here, which could be a real possibility, but didn't you say it was just for flavour in your situation and NOT your actual role? Couldn't you have said that certain flavour in your role pm lead you to believe that you were a role you werent and it would be a good idea for EGL to inguire about the same thing? You wouldn't have had to point out that your info was also PHD related.Kmd4390 wrote:
Because by doing so, I'd be basically claiming. I didn't want to do that.Nightfall wrote:Yes KMD has contributed a lot, but I'm not so sure he's exchange with Caboose in
post 333 is that pro town looking. I don't see how it would have hurt to ask EGL to
confirm his role with the mod, especially since you/KMD already made it clear that
you didn't think he was what he was claiming to be.Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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MonkeyMan576 wrote: I suggest we start looking at those who were in on the vote, especially towards the end, and those who might be behaving suspiciously(ie defending the vote).MonkeyMan576 wrote:There's a difference between something being a "towntell" and being "cleared". If you want to think I'm scum that's up to you, but for myself I'm going to suggest we look heavily at voting records and suggest to others to do the same.
While I agree with these two posts, we have to remember that Zwets' was acting scummy, like usual, and KMD voiced his opinion that he had doubts that EGL was a doc. So there were reasons given to vote both players. Like you said in your first of these two posts I think we should look at those who suspiciously defended their vote, but not black list everyone that voted. I would have maybe voted too had KMD been more convincing. Missreading of flavour is something I still think could have been solved prelynch.Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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I was just curious as you were the one who originally called him on it.
To answer your question, early on I found Jebus scummy, and (as I believe I pointed out earlier) he started to act more town like as day one went on. But, I do think his back peddling was kind of scummy. I found it a little off that you didn't address it in your list.Kmd4390 wrote:Jebus wrote:Unvoting Zwet was a waste of my time.
vote: zwetJebus wrote:So Zwet, you've just chosen to be lynched in the name of laziness?
Why the backpedaling AFTER the lynch has already happened?Jebus wrote:What a waste of a lynch, imo.Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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You're saying the who and the why don't mater to you?Caboose wrote:
Yes.MonkeyMan576 wrote:So by your logic we should throw voting records completely out the window, huh?
Voting records doesn't clear nor condemn anybody. It has little to do with the vote itself and everything to do with how and when the vote is cast.Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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Posting to keep the thread going....
KMD is still #1 for my vote because I don't think he should have held off on the "it's flavour not a role" topic until after the lynch. But I don't want that alone to be what he's lynched for... We need more convo but with the switching of players we're stalling bad...Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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Wait, you're saying you had two investigation attempts night one?
Do you know who the no result was on?
Mod: could we get a vote count?
I'm very close to adding my vote to the list but I don't want to hammer.
Not yet at least. I want to hear a few more answers first.Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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Sorry about not back checking your voting history but I didn't think you'd VOTE for her a 2nd time.Caboose wrote:Nightfall wrote:You weren't voting her either until just a little while ago.
I voted her after I realized her claim was BS, which was yesterday. I think everyone who posted today on should be aware of that fact.The second voter on the DGB wagon wrote:Yeah, the DGB claim is pure excrement.
Vote: DGB
That's what I'm thinking.Kmd4390 wrote:
She'll come back and say, "X voted me right away. Y bandwagoned. Z defended. A did this. B did that. The scum are this, this, and that and we need to lynch them now.Nightfall wrote: I just don't see why she'd act so obviously scummy.
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I'm going to vote now too actually.
Vote:DGB
-I'm curious to see what DGB will say
-How caboose will react
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I thought I made it clear that I wasn't sure if DGB was scum or not but would add my vote because of how she was acting. I also wanted to get to her reaction of how people acted (As KMD thought there would be), and I wanted to see what some others would say too. I think DGB hammered herself BTW. And that second post of mine WAS somewhat of an I told you so post. I had said that she seemed a bit too eager to be lynched, and received a fair bit of heat from Caboose for it. I made that post to point out that maybe he shouldn't have been so quick to judge me...molestargazer wrote:Now we really need to do this re-read, and to stop myself from putting if off any longer, I'll do it now.
Let's go from maybe Page 22, although a lot of this will be hampered by DGB.
Seems to be a bit of a contradiction there? Nightfall agreeing with Kmd that she might be scum, but going ahead to vote anyway?Nightfall wrote:
That's what I'm thinking.Kmd wrote:She'll come back and say, "X voted me right away. Y bandwagoned. Z defended. A did this. B did that. The scum are this, this, and that and we need to lynch them now.
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I'm going to vote now too actually.
Vote:DGB
-I'm curious to see what DGB will say
-How caboose will react
-And whether the count will say anything at all.
Indeed, this was (I believe) the hammer vote. Strange, don't you think?
Don't really like this either. Just seems as though he didn't really want to vote, and is now saying 'I told you so' to us.Nightfall wrote:Wow... yeah... my Jester post doesn't seem so stupid now does it -_-'
And.. strangely enough.. that's all I can find of any value in these pages - either that, or I'm not reading properly.
So, for now,
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It wasn't posted in the OP (Not that I know of at least).Jahudo wrote:Ok I'm done reading. I'll return later with who I think is scum.
In the case of DGB I agree with KMD about her meta. She can act scummy on purpose to manipulate the game and cause confusion.
I understand the position of the people that voted for her because a jester is not considered a normal role and should not fall into the category of things we need to be worried about unless a jester possibility is stated explicitly in the OP (it wasn't was it? I don't see it there now).
Caboose found this later on though.
Caboose wrote:Oh, crap.
I hope it isn't DGB's win con to leave with the Count.Max in the Mini Theme Queue wrote:Speed Dating Mafia
Ah, it's Valentine's day, you see a lonely woman reading her copy of a 'Mills and Boon', you thank god that at least you have the looks to get you a date. Even if it is by speed-dating...
12 Hours Later
You arrive at the speed dating centre, you learn that several people there are already married, you don't know which but you remember seeing their "Million Pound Wedding" in the news paper. This means that you'll have to dismiss table by table, as they find true love or a good shag
Town Win Condition: You win if you leave with another town person and the people who are cheating on their lovers leave without love
Mafia Win Condition: You win if you leave with a towns person you lose if you leave with another mafia member or leave without love
Possible Third Party Win Condition: You are destined to be with X if they leave without you you commit suicide. If they leave with you, you will get married have 3 children, buy a house when the market recovers. Well you win.
Another Possible Win Condition: You feel sorry for these people, so much so you think they all deserve to die. You win if every table but the one your on dies.Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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Took the words right out of my mouth.don_johnson wrote:
i have to agree. it sounds awfully convenient.Kmd4390 wrote:Not sure I believe molest.
I'm sitting with her right now though... *Tear*
Right now I'd be tempted to ask for a seat change, and put an FOS on a Mole and Countess table.
We never did learn what the count's role was did we? last I checked even after his parting his role was listed as ????Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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There's faulty logic here too. If Mole is scum, he should know who else is scum. If we ask (scum) mole to investigate a towny, he could could lie to us if the pair is town and win the game if we lynch them. If he betrays his partner and tells us someone is scum, he will look better in our eyes and likely make it till the end of the game on that one action still winning it for his team...Kmd4390 wrote:Ok, here's a plan.
If everyone agrees (aka don't do this yet), molest (nice avatar) can check The Countess's win condition as true or false.
If it comes up false, we lynch The Countess with someone who just needs the married people to leave regardless of whether it's with them or not. If The Countess flips town, Molest is scum. If not, we figure out what to do with Molest later.
If it comes up true, we lynch Molest with the same conditions on a pair. If Molest is town, The Countess is confirmed. If not, we figure out what to do with The Countess tomorrow.
Sound good?
If Mole is town, then that's a whole nother story... but I'm not sure how much faith I have in that...Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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Or um, if your wrong we/the town loose.Kmd4390 wrote: How about this. We wait until Don and Nightfall are at a table together. If they are scum, we'll win. If they aren't, The Countess is probably scum with The Count so the game will continue and we'll lynch The Countess.
In your example wouldn't it make more sense for me to sacrifice myself to take out the countess? (ie. A Nightfall/Countess lynch?)
Also I don't mind sacrificing myself for the better good of the town,
but I don't like how (or see why) I'm being singled out as the male to do soOnce Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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