Mini 849 - Return to Smalltown Y - Over

[Snow_Bunny]

Hi there! I'm Rose.

And I'm Mary.

Stop! Let me do the talk!

No!

Yes!

No!

Yes!

No!

Enough! Ok, forget that little part. Mary doesn't know how to behave in public. Though I was planning to not get involved in this, the gang wanted my services and used some persuasive methods to make me join them against the cops...

Well, duh! If you weren't so weak they wouldn't have needed of that! You know how long I'm waiting to test my new machetes out! And those filthy cops are the perfect chance!

No, no more bloodshed! You know I can't bear see someone getting hurt!

Ha! Suck it up, girl, 'cause this game has just started!

(Btw, how about if we put our character names in the sig, that way it would be easier for us to remember who is who.

Can we do that, mod?

)

Yes, you may. Oh, and BTW, it's Mary who's the violent persona, not Rose. Not to worry, I fixed it for you.

[Snow_Bunny]

Right..

Btw, Pre-game fact: Theoretical possibility of 9 kills in one night.

Let's start the rampage!!!!

No, we mustn't! Let's just drive the cops and Tina away and return to our peaceful lives, shall we?

What!? I'm this close to cut you out, girl, so shut that hole!

*cries*

[Snow_Bunny]

I know I am a female genius, but I am totally in love with

Mary

, the violent schizo-personality

Don't worry, I go both ways. ^_-

Ewww, that's disgusting! Don't do that to my body!

Your body??? I beg you pardon, but if it wasn't for me you weren't still alive!

...

So, evil genius girl, what do you have to offer me? Maybe the head of one cop? Maybe two? Or maybe you can lead me to Tina... *grins maliciously*

[Snow_Bunny]

*is sharpening her machete anxiously*

[Snow_Bunny]

*is preparing a med kit, a bit nervous because she knows, soon, blood will be spilled again*

[Snow_Bunny]

Little Red Riding Hood? No, wait, that's Snow White!

[Snow_Bunny]

I know the perfect game for these events! Let's play Pin the Knife in the Social Lady!

Hmm... I've been thinking about the witness... Alexander Litvinenko?

[Snow_Bunny]

I was close enough! I want that teddy bear!!!

[Snow_Bunny]

*sneaks behind Wade* Boo!

[Snow_Bunny]

Mod: It is really that necessary to find the replacement before starting the game? Most games start with 90% of the players.

[Snow_Bunny]

Finally!!! Let the slaughter begins!

No, no, no!!! Let's just take care of the cops and Tina without harming us much, please?

[Snow_Bunny]

Let's start with that game of Pin the Knife in the Social Lady!

Vote: Eleanor

No, no, no! We're not here for playing games!

Let me have at least some fun before the actual manhunt begins, you wussy!

[Snow_Bunny]

In lieu of placing a random vote, I'd like to ask the following question to everyone:

Does knowing the roles of the players in the game give you any particular inclinations in terms of who should be voted or not voted today? Please explain the response you give.

Yes, yes, let's go the way of civilized people. I believe that Jack's power is a treat we can't ignore. We either have that sneaky and shameless cat burglar steal his implements or lynch him. Talking about her, she's also a considerable treat if she's not town. Luckily, her night actions are fairly easy to track (well, if you lose your powers it's because it was her, duh). So, we can have her not do anything unless we ask her to.

The point with the others, in general, is that discussion about if lynching them or not based on their power will lead to wifom. "We should not lynch the healers/blockers because they might be helpful." "But what if the cops or Tina are hiding behind them? Then we will never lynch them" And so. I guess we should just play normally, scumhunting as always. Later, after the first night, we will have more info to work with.

[Snow_Bunny]

Well, seeing how things are moving, I believe this is one of the few games where I can say that a no-lynch can be useful for day 1 (unless, of course, someone slips).

Or, or, we can go on a killing rampage and use all of our nightkills to spread chaos! We'll surely hit a cop or two, and if we're lucky, maybe even Tina!*

[Snow_Bunny]

Making plans for the night is good, but what if the cops are messing up with it since the beginning? Or Tina?

I proposed the no-lynch because that way we'll have in the night plan all the players. Otherwise there could be some "noise" (unwanted things, like a mislynch) in the plan.

So, after some thoughts, I decided that I'm not too fond of making plans, but if that's the will of everyone, then it shall be done that way.

What? You all are a bunch of wussies! What happened to the bloodshed I was expecting? You bunch of little girls! I'll find Tina on my own, and when I'm butchering her, don't come asking me for a piece!

[Snow_Bunny]

If you add reasons to your random votes, then they're not so random. Also, my power is almost like many others. It can be both a good thing or bad thing for town. If you really want to lynch someone by its role, then you are the scum here.

And, if you don't like me talking, you'll have to do better than that. By the way, if you are alive when we get rid of the pigs and the bitch, I'll kill you myself, so-called martial artist.

[Snow_Bunny]

The roles were selected randomly. This means, at random. This means, that if Jack is Tina, it was fate, not the mod's fault.

And Eleanor: That is scummy what you propose. Why, which is the most harmful role to town? It all depends. In the end, that kind of discussion will end up putting all of us against ourselves, and we won't be able to do anything against the cops or Tina like that.

[Snow_Bunny]

But, we don't know how long twilight will last. What if night comes just before we are finishing the details of the plan? Or what if it comes just an hour after twilight? It's just too random to be reliable.

[Snow_Bunny]

if we can make a plan, we can /lynch those who do not follow it.

The cops have to arrest someone, and not use a night action. Tina is, well, tina.

She'll be smart and use her n ight action like we tell her.

Planning is good.

I'll come up w/ one ASAP that you can all critique and call scummy.

Make up your mind, Bruce. Is planning good or not?

Also, I don't like at all that comment you made about Tina. I guess we have enough problem so far, and on top of that you are giving her advice (the bolded part). I really find this anti-town. You are lucky your role is useful to town, otherwise I'll be voting for you (however, if I keep finding you scum, I'll vote for you without a second thought. You just raised my scum alert).

Can I kill Bruce? I bet is in liege with Tina!

Top of the page vote count:
Eleanor has 1 vote (Mary Rose)
David has 1 vote (Charles)
Mary Rose has 1 vote (Bruce)
Nobody else is voting.
7 is the goal.

[Snow_Bunny]

We can make an action chain for the night, and if the chain is broken, we will know who was and thus we'll have a cop in our hands.

Wade protects himself.
Ralph targets both Wade and Eleanor
Mary Rose (me) targets Eleanor (which means I will be targeting Wade)
Tom targets Eleanor. (to prevent that I do nothing on Wade and then come up with the excuse of "I protected instead of killing")
Chloe targets Tom (so Tom has another shot at his ability)
Robin targets Wade (kill Eleanor)
David targets Wade (As Robin is attacking Eleanor, she will be protected)
Bruce targets Tom (protects him and if he's scum Bruce will be dead)
Robin targets Bruce (protect, in case someone wants to take him out to make it look like Tom is scum)
Robin targets Jack (investigation)
Charles targets Carmen
Carmen targets Jack (she shouldn't be able to steal its weapon)
And finally Toms target Ralph (someone might try to kill him, ruining everything.)
Jack SHOULD not send a night action. We are investigating him, so his alignment will be revealed tomorrow.

If the chain breaks in one spot, it should break in another place as well. Which means that we can gain enough info with that.

Now, some questions to the

Mod:
If Wade protects himself one night, and its targeted by Ralph, he still get his protection?

Yes.

How do you resolve actions? First to arrive first to resolve? Or do you have an specific order for each action?

I will answer this question with my own post. It's kind of long for a mod edit.

Well, please give your opinions.

[Snow_Bunny]

Well, that's true. And, Tina can break the chain with no problem, and possibly without giving much information. But, at least we can prevent the night actions of the cops. Also, if the cops have yet another ability other than the nk and their role power, that would be broken.

[Snow_Bunny]

Mod: if a killer targets me and ralph switches me with the killer does the killer kill himself?

personally i am scared that ill be lynched and i amm m p ppre prettty suree that a no lynch would be gooddd and also everyone where are the loose bolts in mary roses plan?

Obv scum.

Vote: Wade

[Snow_Bunny]

Greetings, ladies and gentlemen! My name is

David

, and I have something

very

special planned for you all... Let's not get ahead of ourselves, however, as that's for another time... To get started, I will start with a prediction! Yes, that's right!

I predict that

Jack

is, indeed, Tina! Oh, you think I'm wrong, do you? Well, we'll see...we'll see...

Now, my grand audience, let the show begin!

@Eldricht

why?

Ok, I made my mind. Bruce, you are a cop. Isn't it? Your trying too hard to look as a townie. Too hard. Coupled with your previous posts, I'm really inclined to believe you are a cop (or Tina). Your role is indeed important, but I can't get out of my mind your scummy actions. Still, wade looked scummier than you, so for the time being, I'll just

MFOS Bruce

I'll myself will cut your throat during the night, you cop scum.

[Snow_Bunny]

I'm really sick, I'll read and post something after I feel better.

[Snow_Bunny]

There's a Snow_White and a Snow_Bunny? Seems like someone is trying to pass as me... She must be Tina!

Ok, end of joke. I've been really sick, and it is until now that I'm getting better enough to post, so I'll reread everything and post something (I just needed to say something about

the impostor

Snow_White)

[Snow_Bunny]

Well, I like this new Carmen.

Enough to not make me kill her right away. But there's something about that old oriental geezer I'm not liking at all. And that cowardly chicken isn't helping either. We should just dispatch them both.

No! We can talk things out without the need of violence. However, that doesn't mean I don't distrust either of them.

So far, I like the plan of Charles the most, with a Wade lynch. But, let's wait until Ralph enlighten us with his opinion.

[Snow_Bunny]

Mod: How are the prods going?

[Snow_Bunny]

--Snow_Bunny/Mary_Rose--

1. Firstly. Treats are what we get at Halloween. Threats are dangers. That had me perplexed for about 15minutes! lol.

1. Post 68 is one i found pro town.
2. How did you feel about Bruce's vote on you. You didnt appear to take as much offense to it as Robin did. Or have i misunderstood you?
3. How do you feel about Robin defending you in the face of Bruce? Do you need defending?
4. Ive post 137 listed as pro town.
5. Ive you listed as a strong gangsta read. And Bruce too. Despite your headbutting. Do you feel the suspicion around Bruse is fair?
6. Is the lynch on Wade just?
7. Is anyone in particular apart from Bruce, ticking your scumdar?
8. I would like you to explain this however

Can i kill Bruce?! I bet is in liege with Tina"

Now, Tina is a sole threat. As far as i am aware. How could Bruce be in league with Tina and secondly, why couldnt Bruce BE Tina?

1. I'm sorry for that. Got mixed up the words.

2. Meh, it didn't affect me much. A vote based on things like the power is much like a baseless vote. And I said what it needed to be said about that.
3. I didn't feel Robin defended me. And no, I don't need defending, specially from baseless votes.
5. Why do you think I'm a gansta? And yes, I think suspicion on Bruce is fair. At first he acted like a newb, but then after analyzing it, seems more like fishy.
6. Yep. Post 194 tells it all.
7. Yes, Wade. And hard.
8. When I post in red, that's my other personality, the ones that wants to kill something, and the same one who doesn't have all of her neurons active. (this is, ignore playwise everything I say with her, she's just for fluff. And yes, I know that Tina is alone, but she's like that.)

Watch that tongue or I will slice it you bigmouth!

Are you stupid! That's your same tongue!

I don't care! I want to slice something!!!!! *kills a nearby passerby*

[Snow_Bunny]

More like someone rolled a natural 1... ¬_¬

[Snow_Bunny]

So, are we going with imaginality's plan?

[Snow_Bunny]

And, are we lynching Wade?

[Snow_Bunny]

Vote: Wade

DIE DIE DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your vote doesn't count, tiger.

[Snow_Bunny]

So, we can assume from that that Tina has someway to know the people's alignment. Well, I mean, it seems as if she was sure Carmen was a cop. Either that, or Jack is Tina, and she killed right off with the chain.

So, this means either Jack or Robin is Tina.

[Snow_Bunny]

According to the mod, Tina can roleblock, kill, and perform her night action as well. Quite broken, isn't it?

@Robin: Well, she can perform her night action and kill. We do not know for sure if she has to do them at the same time, so it's a possibility she investigated first and killed later. And as you are the only alignment-investigative role, you are a possible suspect of being Tina.

[Snow_Bunny]

But, we're not sure she roleblocked. If she had, the chain would probably have been broken somewhere.

[Snow_Bunny]

Consider this a small favor from me. Since you can't find the UC cops yourself, I'll have to do it for you. But this doesn't mean I'm not still pissed at you. I just can't afford to have the cops find me. Once the other two are dead, I'm coming for you!

I guess that's more than enough to explain her interest in killing cops.

[Snow_Bunny]

We're not sure. So, we can't rule that out.

[Snow_Bunny]

Consider this a small favor from me. Since you can't find the UC cops yourself, I'll have to do it for you. But this doesn't mean I'm not still pissed at you. I just can't afford to have the cops find me. Once the other two are dead, I'm coming for you!

I guess that's more than enough to explain her interest in killing cops.

Are you suggestin that:
a) Tina actually wrote this AND
b) Tina must kill cops before she can kill townies?

I disagree, not just because I am not Tina, but also because I find your logic extremely weak (which surprises me, cuz you are normally smart). Samples of Mary Rose's fail logic:

1) "Tina wrote the note therefore she must have known that Carmen was a UC".
You are assuming:

a) that she is the author of the message, which is possible but not sure

and

b) that she needs or wants to kill UC's before she kills townies, which is not stated in the message.

2) "Tina knew that Carmen was UC therefore she must have an investigative power".

If I am Tina, would you explain me how I am going to find out a cop tomorrow night, since I have no more droids?

Moreover,

if you think that Tina has a special investigative power, then she could be everyone but the clears

(oh, and do not forget that roles were assigned randomly).

Regardless of my personal position (I know I am not Tina while you think I may be), I disagree on logical bases on everything you posted today.

1) She probably didn't write that as it is, but I believe she did leave a note to the mod to post.
2) I never said this. She stated that she

wants

to find all cops before starting to kill townies. And no, I believe that the investigative roles comes from you. However, my theory is not strong enough yet to warrant a vote, but I want to state it.

[Snow_Bunny]

oh, darn... I cannot believe it, I confused Carmen and Chloe... both begin with C...
I guess I am too paranoid about being framed and I should play more concentrated LoL

Nervousness, scummy sign. Hm, things are looking bad for you, Robin. It's true that Tina could have taken the chance and hit it, but it's also logical to think that Tina knew before hand that Carmen was unprotected. And, the confusion between the names make me think now that your primary target was Chloe, but you confused her with Carmen.

Hmm... Suspicions rise, and with the previous theory, for now I'll

vote: Robin

Things are just falling in the right place now.

[Snow_Bunny]

1) She probably didn't write that as it is, but I believe she did leave a note to the mod to post.

There is no good reason to believe, or propose this.

There is no good reason to not believe this, either.

[Snow_Bunny]

My head's been a bit dense lately, so, can anyone tell me why David or Ralph are scum?

[Snow_Bunny]

But there was no arrest last night! And thus, I still don't get how David or Ralph are scum. Sorry, but I just can't see it. Of course, if the arrest was made, it's logical to believe it was them.

Also, where is Tom!!!??? He needs to claim before I do, right?

[Snow_Bunny]

Ahhhhhhhhh!!!!!! I don't get it!!!!!!! T_T

[Snow_Bunny]

Oh!!!!! I get it now! The cops

must

send an arrest every night! Oh, that's logical, then. Still, I want to hear from them (and from Tom) before taking a stance on this matter.

[Snow_Bunny]

Well, he claimed. By turn: I targeted Bruce, with a protect action.

[Snow_Bunny]

Oh, my, does it hurts too much to put your gamename in your sig?

[Snow_Bunny]

@MaryRose. It is possible Jack was blocked and Carmen killed since apparently everyone's actions went through. (everyone who sent theirs in)

Nop. That's not possible. Jack is unblockable. This means either Jack sent its killing to Carmen, or he did nothing.

@Mary Rose

She probably didnt write that as it is but i believe she did leave a note to the mod to post

this leaves me baffled quite frankly. Why would you assume this? What are the chances, do you think, that Tina KNOWS our alignments?
Ill bare this in mind for future reference.

No, I don't think that. I assume she knew before hand Carmen was a cop (this is, Robin is Tina and he send his investigative droid to her).

@Mary Rose (origin of the message noise): one of my droids visited Bruce, this was confirmed. If I was Tina, how could I have investigated Bruce AND Carmen?

You see, interesting thing. Tom did saw a droid of yours went to visit Bruce. But, we are not sure which droid it was. As Tina, you can use all of your actions in a single night (block, kill, droids), and the theory fits nicely. The only problem is, Bruce alignment. But, if Bruce is town, everything's good for you. If he's scum, then he won't counterclaim you as that would be just stupid. A good well-thought plan, I must say.

I strongly believe you are Tina. Period.

[Snow_Bunny]

Well, nice plan, but I'm not sure if the mod will tell me if I was RB'ed. And thus, if you are cop, you might be able to send an arrest if I protect you instead of killing you. A risk, but a possibility. And I'd prefer to explore everything before night arrives.

[Snow_Bunny]

This game is kind of stalling. So, what about the chain?

[Snow_Bunny]

Well, it's a chance we are taking. May bring good results, as well as bad ones.

What the hell! Let's go with that!

[Snow_Bunny]

Hmm... Isn't there a chance I end up killing Chloe?

[Snow_Bunny]

Im sure Mary would love to get her hands dirrrty.

You'd bet on it, taxi driver!

[Snow_Bunny]

Butchered bodies are mine and only mine!!![/b]

Well, now that sounded sick. You necrophiliac!

[Snow_Bunny]

Mod: V/LA till Friday at earliest

[Snow_Bunny]

Ok... I still think Robin is Tina, but well...

Unvote. Vote: David

[Snow_Bunny]

Interesting new avatar, SW.

Btw, I really hate games when lurking players make everything move slower... Mod! Go kill them!!!

And, if you can't, can I give it a try? This time I'll clean the blood from the floor, I swear.

[Snow_Bunny]

Robin, that's not only on it. I'm getting a Tina vibe from you. I don't know why, but I could even bet on it that you are Tina.

[Snow_Bunny]

(Feel the fear now that you can watch Mary?)

Mod: When's deadline?

November 5th, 1500 GMT

[Snow_Bunny]

*is extra happy* Take that, bitch!!!

Ok, girls, it's time to hunt for the other slut!

Vote: Robin

My sense of smell never fails. And I smell shit in you! If town is too pussy to lynch you today, I shall kill you myself tonight!

*is too sad to post something*

[Snow_Bunny]

Nobody orders me around, lil princess! I vote if I feel like it! Ya hear me!?

[Snow_Bunny]

I killed Chloe, that's more than obvious... ¬_¬

[Snow_Bunny]

In general, I don't think a player ever gets a notification for being blocked. Usually what makes them know they were blocked is their night action failing.

[Snow_Bunny]

I think Robin is Tina. My question is, does anyone else have suspicions on her, or for the matter, on another player? This game is kind of stalling due to lurkers, so we need discussion or this game will die soon.

[Snow_Bunny]

Well, night chains are useless right now, as Tina doesn't need to break them in order to kill.

But, what about today's lynch? Are you suggesting no lynch?

[Snow_Bunny]

Hmm... Ground, sounds like you're trying to pick your target now. If you are Tina, and Bruce protects you, and you also kill him, there's a chance the kill will end up as being from poisoning. And, you'll get a free ticket.

FOS: Ground

I bet either Robin or Eleanor is Tina.

[Snow_Bunny]

I can't decide to protect or kill. It's random.

[Snow_Bunny]

Guys, we took care of the threat. Don't worry, we're safe now.

Took care of the threat? More like "I let her ra-

Hush! Yep, we took care of it. Tina won't bother us anymore.

*sighs* I'll play along for now. So... HA! TAKE THAT BITCH!!!! I knew you were Tina!!! See town? See? Who's your mommy?

So... Seeing as I'm the last killer around here...

Mod: Can I go on a killing spree to relieve my frustration?

-_-U You never change...

[Snow_Bunny]

Why didn't you blocked/killed me? You could have then used wifom to get out of it next day.

And yeah, that message the mod wrote for you screwed you royally.

[Snow_Bunny]

Btw, both lew and me deserve the best roled role award. ¬_¬

[Snow_Bunny]

Great game, Professor. Pre-in me to the next! ^_-

[Snow_Bunny]

Yep. It's called "Queue"