I've been waiting for this one
Let's just play some Game of Thrones Mafia...
"What is dead can never die, but rises again, harder and stronger."
Not really, just seems less fun.Mina wrote: Why, do you have a particular reason for believing that a D1 nameclaim would break this game? Do you think the scum have less information?
Mina wrote: I'm interested in seeing where this leads, but I don't want to nameclaim just yet.
You seem to be fencesitting. Why's that?Mina wrote: Not that I like Kinetic's idea
That's because Mina is caught scum.Kinetic wrote: Of the people posting (which aren't a lot) for some reason Mina is peaking my radar. Not sure why yet though, but I'm going to keep an eye on it.
xvart wrote:
The point is if we all name claim who do you think is more likely to have a more powerful (or useful) role? Benjen Stark or Syrio Forel? Khal Drago or Hodor? In each of those instances, not knowing any role related information, who would you rather lose?
You've already helped scum enough claiming you're not a PR.Seacore wrote: Could the other 6 weigh in?
I think Seacore was an excited townie when he claimed. Normally I would agree with you that an early claim is nervous scum. But I'm not getting that vibe from Seacore.xvart wrote: With that said, I now think the best move is to lynch Seacore and we will definitely be able to verify his claim (if he happens to flip town).
I like Mina's case on buttonmen alot better.Seacore wrote:You won't find me too much against a Heilo policy lynch
But I'm curious for feedback on my (admittidly small) Mina case
So sayith the lurker.TheButtonmen wrote:^5!Kinetic wrote:I'm for lynching a chronic lurker if he doesn't post in the next 24-48 hours. Just saying.
I'm always down for a lurker lynch.
If there was two killing factions wouldn't there be different kill flavour like stabbed,shot,etc. Instead of just killed?mod wrote: The Dead:
Heliograph - Tyrion Lannister - Innocent Aligned Double Voter was lynched Day 1.
Xvart - Syrio Forel -Vanilla Townie was killed night 1.
This feels like an overreaction, how you go out of your way to make sure we all knew you were not night talking.Bogre wrote:See- that only holds if people are confirming in thread. At any rate- what drew my interest towards you, was that you mentioned it twice, without a response from meKinetic wrote:
Thus my original point, that someone is more likely to be scum when confirming last than town stands.(In which I was inactive across the site, not night-talking)- that you were very concerned with it, not so much that I think you were trying to pin mis-suspicion so early in the game.
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I could see Kinetic killing xvart too.Kinetic wrote: Notable exceptions are as follows:
Coldhands was not introduced until AFTER this period of time.
Renly, Theon, Tarly, Snow, and Cassel were not present at all at King's Landing during this time period (which according to the fluff is where we are).
Of the remaining roles, (Arya, Catelyn, Robb, Sansa, Sandor, and Tyrion), two were "allied" with the Lannisters while the other 4 were Starks. Additionally if we nail down the time period Catelyn Stark may not have been at King's Landing either.
As it stands from this quick analysis my original ideas were not completely right, but that doesn't mean we didn't gain a lot of information from this list, not the least of which is that everyone is cemented in their claims.
If I had to make rough guesses right now on who was scum based solely on set up, I'd make these assumptions:
At least one of {Sansa, Robb, Catelyn, or Arya} is most likely scum
At least one of {Sandor, Tyrion} or {Snow, Tarly, Coldhands} is most likely scum (but I put these together since I think each is mutually exclusive due to their locations).
At least one of {Theon, Cassel, Renly} is most likely scum.
This is all assuming 3-5 scum in the setup,with either a mixture of one mafia group and a SK and/or Survivor, or two mafia groups and either a SK or Survivor.
Shouldn't the word be "innoncence", not "guilt" ?Seacore wrote:
Obviously I don't think I'm a great lynch, but I also don't think there's enough time to convince 4 more people of myguilt.(Assuming that xvart, locke and mina are currently happy to vote for me)
So we need three more votes. Xvart has said he'll move his vote, so we need two more.
Seacore had good reasons for wanting xvart dead too.xvart wrote:Whoops! Scum slip much?Seacore wrote:And you're making me feel better about you being lynched because this way we're lynching a slightly scummy usless town, rather than just a useless town.
xvart.
Just from my experience.Why did you think this was true? Is it necessary for a mod to distinguish between the factions that make the kill?
I had him pegged as town D1, It wasn't until I did reread D2 that I was suspicious of him. I was just trying to keep it simple with top 2 suspects.Mina wrote: Raivann, why did you FOS Seacore, but put him in a neutral clump with five other players below Buttonmen (I understand why he was below Miserable, since you voted for him)? Because apparently, you don't suspect him more than most of the players in the game.
On second thought, nah. I'm soldRaivann wrote:Shouldn't the word be "innoncence", not "guilt" ?Seacore wrote:
Obviously I don't think I'm a great lynch, but I also don't think there's enough time to convince 4 more people of myguilt.(Assuming that xvart, locke and mina are currently happy to vote for me)
So we need three more votes. Xvart has said he'll move his vote, so we need two more.
Seacore had good reasons for wanting xvart dead too.xvart wrote:Whoops! Scum slip much?Seacore wrote:And you're making me feel better about you being lynched because this way we're lynching a slightly scummy usless town, rather than just a useless town.
xvart.
Xvart is right about Seacore scumslip.
What does "slightly scummy useless town" mean?
So he's scummy but you know he's town? How?
When did you say you thought Buttonmen was town?
FoS:Seacore
You seem a little too sure that The Inq. got targeted last night, yet you try and paint him as SK.Kinetic wrote:The main issue I'm having with Inq's claim is this:
If he had any more protection left, why did he announce he had it. Wouldn't that only discourage scum from attacking him again? Wouldn't a townie both PREFER the night kill attempt to target him again and maybe even try to draw it?
Everything in me is telling me this is a bulletproof scum gambit from someone who had a one-shot immunity and lost it and now is trying to trick people from killing him in the night phase.
For this to make him scum though, it points toward SK because of the type of protection (I see SKs much more likely to have night kill protection), and since the likely hood of three killing roles is nearly moot he would also thus have to be responsible for the xvart kill.
Unless there is something I'm missing that is so far where my main suspicions lie with Inq.
What about not stepping up your game at all ?MacavityLock wrote: There's a difference between stepping up your game because you just have more to say, and stepping up because you're under pressure. In the latter case, I seen that just as often, if not more often with scum.
I give you a hint. It starts with Butt and ends with men.Who are you digging at here? Also, what's the point of said dig?
TheButtonmen wrote:Vote: Heilo, cause deadline is hells of soon.
Not quite sure yet. Mainly just because I know scum would love to lynch a bulletproof townie.MacavityLock wrote:Why?Raivann wrote:I'm kinda suspicious of the players who are voting him actually.
I am thinking a Bogre, Kinetic scumteam.I'll take Mina's question about suspicions other than Seacore and Inq as a general question, since it's an interesting one.
With this being a little RVS distancing ploy.Bogre wrote:Howdy guys.
Vote: Kinetic
Nameclaiming suggestion, and the voting me for being the last to confirm. I confirmed after I read my role PM. I find it strange that you are 'getting annoyed' by that. What is your reasoning that last to confirm is over 50% likely to be scum?
No there's more but I'd rather not lynch him, there is scummier.So, just gut?
I am happy to lynch anyone except Mina or Seacore, they are the only town reads I have.I also want to hear more from Rai, who I was about to have prodded before his single word post, as well as Kinetic.
Kinetic also seemed to believe that The Inq got targeted but not to believe his claim.Mina wrote: MacLock, I suppose a vig might have made a suboptimal kill on N1. And I have a bad track record of getting horribly tunnelvisioned on townies, so I could be wrong. (Believe it or not, I'm not actually 100% sure of your guilt; I just act like it sometimes.) The one thing I find hard to swallow is why you didn't say anything in Inquisition's defence when people were trying to lynch him. I can see you believing Inquisition was BP scum. But why did you let people think he was lying about his claim? You're saying the Mafia NK line was a breadcrumb...but when I read it at the time, my impression was that you doubted Inq's story (because the Mafia would have never targeted him). I don't think you outright said you didn't believe Inq was really bulletproof, but you sure as hell implied it.