Mini 228 - Smash Brothers - GAME OVER

[armlx]

(Insert random vote, maybe funny comment, wait until people stop being first page stupid).

[armlx]

Meh. I don't early game random vote. Its a waste of my and the mods time.

[armlx]

Hmm...

Vote Indentureddjinn

I have a worse vibe about him then Iammars.

[armlx]

Inhim I cant really get a read on, but Indentured seems solid enough to me.

[armlx]

Vote stands on ID for the same reasons everyone else has said. Plain townie.

Bacde has a valid point, but went far too agressive with it.

FOS Bacde

Either wagon seems ok to me, but by my role I think Puff is the right lynch.

[armlx]

Note how Djinn didn't claim a role type with his role or mention anything....

Vote stands on Djinn and I'm looking at Chaos now....

[armlx]

FOS Nanook

for that last post. Thats fishy-ish IMO.

So Djinn, Chaos, and Nanook look most suspicious to me.

[armlx]

............

Didn't we already do this before???

[armlx]

Vote Chaos

He was next on my list of suspicion yesterday. Nothing else to say.

[armlx]

Chaos: See what Inhim said. He summed it up well.

I also didnt intend to put you at lynch - 1. I can't do math well while playing mafia. I was thinking 7 to lynch, not 5.

I wont vote for SO now for this reason.

[armlx]

Hmm, I don't know what to think of that Someone. I say PBug is our next most scummy, but beyond that I don't know.

Unvote

Vote P-Bug

Thats what I think the right thing to do is now, putting Bug at lynch minus 2. Thats also for putting a claimed townie with a reletively provable ability up at lynch minus one (somewhat).

[armlx]

Unvote PBuG

Thats good enough for me.

I'm not sure who's next, mainly cuz I dont remember who has claimed. re-reading time.

[armlx]

Hmm, I still want to hear more from someone, as it seems he has a good idea of whats going on.

[armlx]

Hmmm, assuming 8/3/1, we have 6/2/1 now. Assuming no crossfire, I think we have to hit today. Of course, we should have a 50% chance of doing so imo.

I don't think we can risk lynching a claimed person, mainly since the claimed people are confirmed (excluding the possibility Bacde and Pbug are co-scum with a crazy gambit going on) or can be.

That leaves the following people as possible suspects.

Someone
SO
Armlx
Inhim
Rajrh
Iammars

I am relatively clear due to what Inhim has stated. I also think in him is more clear then the other 4. That leaves

SO
Someone
Rajrh
Iammars

I want to finish claims about whether our abilities are B-button based as I think I have a lead here. I will say mine is.

List

B-Related

Chaos
PBug
Bacde
armlx
SO

Not B-Related
Iammars
Rajhr

No Answer Yet
Inhim
Someone

Note: Isn't it convienient that the 2 most lurky people didn't vote for ID?

[armlx]

Umm, side note, Bacde lied about his 6 ability being a watchman. If he wasn't confirmed by Pbug I'ld be worried.

[armlx]

Hmm, that complicates things. The only possiblity that my theory could be correct is Iammars is wrong. However, I feel much more comfortable in doing this.

Vote Someone

- Didn't vote for ID (lurking is the worst excuse ever)
- Lurked
- Theres more, I just cant post now since I'm a little too tired to put these connections onto virtual paper.

[armlx]

BTW, my suspicion list is

Someone
Rajrh
Iammars
SO tie with Inhim


Someone is above Rajrh for 2 reasons.

1. Didn't vote ID
2. Lurked and used ut as an excuse for problem 1.

However, Rajrh's last post seems interesting. And he is in the out group of not-B related.

[armlx]

Chaos is not on the list due to an easily provable ability. The only problem is that his ablility could be pro- or anti- town. I think that its best to leave him as is for now and maybe prove his ability tonight on someone (IMO Bacde is a good target since it will be obvious to him if he is or isn't blocked).

Note this is a maybe, I would prefer Chaos just blocks someone who is more likely to be anti-town to try and stop a kill

.

[armlx]

So we lynch Someone unless he claims soon, say, by Thursday or Friday. Anyonee disagree?

[armlx]

Ok. My other reasoning.

Everyone so far except Rajrh, Iammars, Someone, and Inhim has had a B-based ability. That includes dead people (though im not sure about Pichu) except our mafia GF. I know its weak, but its something to come back to later IMO.

[armlx]

Ok. I'll explain my logic.

Zelda Shiek was a self protecting doc/cop. Self protect = Nayru's Love.

Pichu's B-attacks are self damaging too. I think it was if Nanook votes someone, he votes himself too.

On Someone:

I understand lurking to an extenet, but using lurking as an excuse for scummy behavior is bad.

[armlx]

Question to the mod: If deadline hits, is it a No Lynch or does most votes get lynched?

[armlx]

Claim please. It will help.

[armlx]

Ok. Sounds good. Someone lurks all the time anyways, but he was acting generally suspicious.

Unvote

Ok, who was next?

Vote Rajrhfreak

[armlx]

Hmm.

Logical conclusion: SO and inHim are scum.

I am Fox, role deflector. One night per game I get to reflect most actions on me.

Put simply, heres the break down.

Iammars & Raj: Have each other's backs
PBuG and Bacde: Same.
Me: First on ID wagon, provable claim
Chaos: Provable claim
Blackberry: Provable yet dangerous claim.

SO and Inhim: Nothing yet.

Unvote

[armlx]

Well, Iammars, that is the stupidest thing I have heard. Will the mod kill you? If not then you claim. You are most likely just buying time to false claim.

Vote Iammars

Just putting my vote in a good place so not to put Raj too close to lynch if I'm wrong.

[armlx]

BTW, what my role does is wrong on the mass claim.

Once per game, I can have most abilities that target me instead target the person that used them for that night.

[armlx]

Hmm, time to unvote BTW.

Unvote

Vote Inhim

His last post sums it up for me. Spreading fear about SO to disassocite or pull out of a sticky situation. Assuming 3 mafia (and no SK) we have a 1 lynch buffer.

[armlx]

Wow. lynch all damn liers.

I just realized inhim said he used his vig shot, but says he will use it tonight to kill someone.

[armlx]

Ignore my last post, I misread something about calling a vig kill.

Inhim is just as scummy as SO. MY vote stands.

[armlx]

Raj took the words out of my mouth. Thanks.

You also said it yourself inhim: the first vote on your own GF is really risky. Third vote however, I can buy that.

[armlx]

Crap. I was thinking of ways to prove myself, and the only ones I could think of involved RB-ing me or investigating me. The investigation one might work though. If the investigation on me is reflected back to PBug, he should copy himself and be able to copy again. I'll ask the mod about this.

[armlx]

I am asking what would happen assuming his roelclaim is true. That may get an anaswer.

[armlx]

You're right Iammars. No answer. We could risk it on this. IMO heres what happens.

We lynch Inhim. Assuming he is mafia Chaos blocks SO. I use my deflector and PBuG copies me. Blackberry does not use his ability since if PBuG gets to self copy he targets him with the investigation. We come out with 2 things.

A. PBuG or Iammars and Raj are dead: SO isn't mafia. IF PBuG is alive we know I'm not and go from there.

B. No one dies, we know SO is mafia and GG.

If Inhim is not mafia, Chaos blocks SO, Raj, Iammars or me at random (preferably not the one of the masons that if they die the other does), I use my relfect, and PBuG investigates me. Blackberry does not use his ability since if PBuG gets to self copy he targets him with the investigation. Then

a. PBuG or Raj/Iammars dies. If PBuG is alive he confirms me. Otherwise we lynch SO (2 vig???).

b. No one dies. PBuG confirms me, Chaos says who he blocked, they die, all is well.

We can also lynch SO and do the same thing (replace all instances of SO with Inhim). Though if SO is mafia, we have to consider Chaos too.

The more I look though, SO is a better target for a lynch. The SO dying and being mafia is a better situation then Inhim since we don't want to use SO's ability anyways IMO. We should have the game on lock tonight.

Unvote

Vote SO

[armlx]

Ok. PBuG, as Commodore the following questions.

If I were to somehow copy myself, would I get to copy someone else (using my ability) and then use the other persons ability?

[armlx]

Gah.

WTF-ery?

BTW, I assume PBuG copying me means i use my deflector ability tonight. Sounds jolly to me.

I think reaching majority first would cancel out any vote by SO (I think he is at lynch before his charge-up vote????)

[armlx]

There are 3 situations here (in order of probability).

1. Blackberry, PBuG, or I is mafia.
2. Same and Inhim is the SK (tied with 1 for probability IMO)
3. There is another mafia consisting of the masons or PBuG and Bacde/Inhim (unber unlikely)

Once PBuG gets back, we will see who (if) he blocked. Either way, if his investigation resolved, we know Blackberry dies today.

[armlx]

I'm ready to vote Blackberry as soon as PBuG returns.

[armlx]

Just to make is overly official

Vote Blackberry

Hopefully this ends the game. Otherwise it will be interesting.

[armlx]

Um... ok. This is not going well.

I am confirmed by PBuG.

Bacde is confirmed by PBuG.

Iammars and Raj are confirmed by each other.

Now, unless something is utterly wrong with the night 1 kills and Assassin/Nanook was double killed, PBuG is the only person without a back up.

Vote Pbug

The only situation this is wrong is if Assassin/Nanook was double killed and Iammars and Raj are mafia.

[armlx]

Clearly the right choice today is Raj. I simply assumed the PM ensured both were town. If you chose between me and PBuG and lynch wrong and the other is scum, we lose since Iammars and Raj die. If we lynch raj and are wrong, the mafia have 4 choices.

Kill me: Leaves Bacde, PBuG and Iammars. 1 confirmed, wierd stuff.

Kill Bacde: Leave me, Bug, and Mars. None confirmed, wierd stuff.

Kill Mars: Leave me, bacde, and bug. 2 confirmed = dead mafia cop.

Kill PBuG: Confirm Bacde and me, Iammars dies.

Obviously, another lynch is always good for us.

Unvote

Vote Raj

Wait for Bug to chime in to lynch tho.

[armlx]

Vote PBuG

GG man.

We would have known it was him anyways.

[armlx]

Now that the day is in twighlight, I'll start discussion. Quickly getting in the vote was to ensure I didn't get simul posted by a Double voted Pbug.

Props:
-PBuG for getting into the town safe zone.
- Town for missing 1 lynch.

Slops:
-Me. I voted raj on the idea that Iammars was Popo.....
- PBuG for revealing he was mafia with a chance to lose.

BuG, I could reflect kills and used it the night before. Meh.

[armlx]

BTW, what was Assasins role PM? I didn't see it up there.