Mini 1001 - Guys, Pt. 2 [adult] Mafia (GAME OVER!)

[Ythan]

Hi.

[Ythan]

Rape as comedy. Off to a good start.

[Ythan]

Ok I laughed. Caught up, will nitpick and vote.

[Ythan]

Testing a theory that NS has to vote (follow) for whomever is voted for. And unvote if he's voted for.

How did you formulate this theory?

Damnit Ythill, I can't get a double post up before you trigger the ninja-proofing.

[Ythan]

I prefered to call you that than "Inflatable Penis". It is a fould word.

This is the Guys 2 game.

And yay for competing wagons.

To which you don't seem to have contributed.

Ed: Ok.

[Ythan]

Vote Amished

Isn't it too early for random PR theories desu?

What are the consequences of discussing it early?

Mafuyu doesn't see the point in specifically finding out what the PR might be, if there is one. If there is, wouldn't its trigger come out naturally during the game enough to be inferred? Then again, it's not a bad conversation starter.

Why make the assertion at the start of the post if you're going to distance from it at the end?

I have a theory too guys! And Its that Zaz is scum~

Vote:ZazieR

Third vote in three posts. Why?

NS is either town or faking the restriction,

Why?

[Ythan]

Oh right, as promised.

vote Nobody Special

[Ythan]

Third vote in three posts. Why?

Are you implying you have a problem with vote changes?

No I asked a question.

Pie: I started coming up with a reply to your message to Ythill. God dammit. And I'm not saying you're not participating, I'm just wondering why you're talking about competing wagons when you voted for someone who I believe had only your vote.

[Ythan]

Third vote in three posts. Why?

Are you implying you have a problem with vote changes?

No I asked a question.

Then I've already answered it for you.

Not for me you didn't.

[Ythan]

Unvote
Vote: Zazie

Whatever.

Your last vote.

[Ythan]

I changed votes is not an answer to why did you change votes. That's better.

[Ythan]

At the same time, Ythill should know better than to just blatantly BW a subpar reason like that. I haven't played with him, but his join date and record give me the feeling that he's a well-known player by now.

I'm more subtle as scum. Just sayin. And it's not a subpar reason just because you don't understand it yet. It's a kickass reason, actually. Go read the rules again.

I missed that IP post. Don't get the point of the criticism for what seems clearly to have been RVS action.

[Ythan]

NS you really need to explain votes.

[Ythan]

Vague is anti-town.

[Ythan]

When you say explained

[Ythan]

You know I can't just take your word for it.

[Ythan]

Liar.

There were ten posts between this and your last one.

[Ythan]

If you're going to make vague and, when unexplained, ultimately meaningless posts, expect me to check and fill you in.

[Ythan]

I have read the rules. You must be alleging that a certain aspect of the rules somehow applies but I'm not going to ponder the possible connections of each line when you should be answering my simple question.

[Ythan]

Considering that Yth wasn't trying to get out of anything with his vagueness I don't actually see a problem.

[Ythan]

Yeah a lot of Amish/Ythill buddying. I didn't check if it went both ways but it was the first thing I noticed in isos. Enjoy being alphabetically first.

[Ythan]

Can we get dl and votes to lynch in the vcs?

Votecount has been abused. Happy now?

[Ythan]

Yes mods, thanks NS.

[Ythan]

?? alive? I suspect that AniX might come back at some point.

[Ythan]

I'm not saying that's it specifically but ?? alive means something.

[Ythan]

I tried to explain this game to my girlfriend. Then I had to try to explain Guys 2 to her.

[Ythan]

Sorry Sorry Sorry will catch up on this as soon as I can. Anything you want me to take special attention in?
Quick note, without reading the thread:
"?? alive players" strike me as pretty interesting.

Less interesting that when we already went over it while you weren't posting.

[Ythan]

Pasta is pasta. Ramen is pasta.

[Ythan]

Looks like post numbers are back.

[Ythan]

I can feel your pain? I'm not sure how. I think he modded my first newbie game but I don't think I've ever played with him. Or was he in Kinmaker?

[Ythan]

There is a possiblity that he is unable to post in the thread. Maybe he drew someone who lurks the GD thread. That or lynch him.

[Ythan]

Oh right. Lol that game.

[Ythan]

I've never played with Ex. Is he normally more active?

[Ythan]

What games have you played with him?

[Ythan]

Those posts are extremely content-heavy. Also he has four here.

[Ythan]

Oh look, Ex can make long posts when someone brings up his meta. And he can also vote for the mods.

vote Exilon

[Ythan]

My posting is consistent with how I post in other games. And I'm not feeling IP scum.

[Ythan]

guytalk more like gaytalk

[Ythan]

Messing around with experimental votes. D1. When there are scum in the game. Anti-town. Scummy.

[Ythan]

Does it disallow you from telling what it is?

[Ythan]

If it doesn't say so in your role PM then there is no reason to assume so.

[Ythan]

If it doesn't disallow you from telling us what the restriction itself is then it would be pro-town to do so.

[Ythan]

Does your role PM say "maybe"?

[Ythan]

lal

[Ythan]

Are you me.

[Ythan]

I'm guessing you're me. I wouldn't take this to the bank but I doubt that he would make my role mafia in both games. Me and Ythill were the mafia roles last game.

[Ythan]

Well then maybe you're not me.

[Ythan]

To the thread!

[Ythan]

@Yth

[Ythan]

@Exi: Lynching scum is the way to go.

You don't think the mods are capable of fucking someone hard in the ass?

Act like you want to find scum please.

[Ythan]

Would anyone bat an eye at the two votes if our names didn't both start with Yth?

[Ythan]

Sorry about the spotty attendance. I think I missed where the Amish case became obvious. Post number?

[Ythan]

I could do Amish today. I could also still do Ex today.

[Ythan]

Also:
@Ythan: Whom *wouldn't* you do, ever?

This is Guys.

[Ythan]

I can probably go read the thread and find some posts I made for you if you want.

[Ythan]

I've been helping my girlfriend move and spending most of my time over at her new place. I'll see about catching up tonight but I'm in a few games so I'll be spreading the love around. Is there anything immediately requiring my attention while I make this same post in those other threads?

[Ythan]

I need to review for Mafuyu. I'll read him when I have more time.

[Ythan]

Who's being replaced please let it not be me.

[Ythan]

You know I've played a lot more games then you MS and I've never heard of that role and I spend a fair amount of time in GD/MD.

You knew that role without needing to reference the wiki.

Huh.

This is a terrible attack.

A Survivor is a Third party that is neither scum nor town. Its neither harmful or dangerous to either by way of role, because their sole purpose in a game is to survive to the end.

Whats so hard to understand about that?

This is incorrect. Off the top of my head I've come to realize that at the very least a survivor hastens lylo, which is quite anti-town.

Also if I'm a cop I'll do that thing Ythill said I guess. Also is it just me or is MS seriously buddying Maf?

[Ythan]

You seem awfully sure. And you seem to have ignored my one example of the trouble with survivors. Statistically one survivor drastically reduce town's chances.

[Ythan]

Because they do. This isn't a matter of opinion. Survivors hasten lylo.

[Ythan]

After saying because they do I. Explained. Why. They. Do.

[Ythan]

I said how it did what you asked. For how a role who can win with any factions hastens lylo I don't really know how to simplify it more for you.

[Ythan]

I can't fathom why MS would be advocating bad survivor handling and now long term negligence unless he's just got a bad idea. If he's trying to help anyone it's the claimed third party.

[Ythan]

Your play is anti-town and you will be lynched or killed. How about that.

[Ythan]

Ugh. This game could use one more replacement.

[Ythan]

You hold fast to and espouse poor strategic ideas and make some amount of nonsensical posts.

[Ythan]

No. That is at the very best bad anecdotal evidence to support a bad playstyle and at the more likely worst just counterintuitive to everything a player on this site should bring to a game. All you can hope for if you play that way is to eventually draw jester in a bastard game.

[Ythan]

Don't try to deflect attention away from yourself, especially if you're going to do it wrong considering that I'm espousing a

dead

survivor.

[Ythan]

(ruling out SK because 2 third party roles seems like too much)

I don't know that this game is going to be optimally balanced based on my experience with its predecessor and with the two mods.

Vote: NS

For lying about Post Restriction. :/

That's an awfully quick hop onto TBM's coattails.

Because lylo not withstanding...

This whole post. It's like you are completely unable to understand the effect a survivor has on a game no matter how thoroughly it is pounded into your head. What explanation you have finally saw fit to justify your long string of terrible reasoning, that about the commute, is insufficient after said string. I see no pro-town reason for you to have blithered on like a lunatic and suddenly incorporate that idea to cover your ass when it pops up in discussion.

[Ythan]

Nah. You're just lying. Blah blah. You're full of shit. Die.

[Ythan]

MS please go find me something serious you've done in this game ever thanks.

[Ythan]

Because you haven't done shit but spam up this thread and you need to explain why you shouldn't

already

be dead.

[Ythan]

I honestly don't expect an answer. I expect more fluffy bullshit until you're lynched.

[Ythan]

Not wasting more space talking to you. Nothing you have ever said in this thread is the least bit meaningful and I'm not going to prompt more of it.

[Ythan]

I don't really care where my vote is until it can actually do something. If it will make you more comfortable to be able to use it as a quick reference for who I want dead the most I can move it.

unvote vote Midnight's Sorrow

Also he just said that logic and hunting doesn't matter d1.

[Ythan]

Not you the other guy. The one who is expected to say things like that.

Ninja. There we go.

[Ythan]

Then explain yourself instead of posting stupid fluff, not that I expected any better.

[Ythan]

Back to ignoring stupid nonsense.

[Ythan]

You're not contributing to the thread. You will not point out a single place that you did. Because you cannot. You're probably the worst player I've ever played with so please selfvote/replace out of this and any other games we share thanks.

[Ythan]

Unless you think that's important NS why don't you save it.

[Ythan]

I keep answering because his play is to terrible, despite his pathetic sophomoric attempts to justify it, that it offends me as a player of this game. It is a struggle to accept that this is actually someone in a game I'm trying to enjoy.

[Ythan]

Also I can't fathom how he's still here. He's the most blatantly anti-town, anti-

game

player I've ever encountered. I'll stop filling up the thread with these posts when he's dead, how about that.

[Ythan]

I've posted reasons you incredible moron.

[Ythan]

Did I say it was pro-town? Unless you count possibly demeaning him into replacing.

[Ythan]

No, you don't have any clue. If you did, in the least, your play would not even resemble what it is now.

[Ythan]

Nice contribution. Why aren't you selfvoting yet? If you were town you'd be voting the most terribly anti-town player in the game.

[Ythan]

That sentence makes no grammatical sense which is a shame because you actually responded to something with

some

form of content for the first time. Good show.

[Ythan]

Please stop. If you post again without participating in the game I will dedicate the rest of my tenure on this site to getting you killed as unceremoniously as possible in every game you play.

[Ythan]

All of you, I will do to this game what I did to 110 if MS does not die. I posted so much the iso function broke.

[Ythan]

I hope you didn't just say something important because I turned on my bullshit filter.

[Ythan]

No, MS, nobody wins until you contribute more to the thread then asking Ythill who he thinks is scum. Do something of your own. NS, I don't like the flavor behind your BP. It doesn't make sense to me.

[Ythan]

No I'm still asking you to contribute to the thread instead of posting 100% fluff. Because I think you might just be a really bad player who is going to waste a lynch.

[Ythan]

What you really said was, that I couldn't ask a question.

Nothing that even vaguely fits this description actually ocured. Are you posting mad lib style?

HOLY F* WQEIRD DISCUSSION IS MORE TIRESOME THAN WALLS OF TEXT, SERIOUSLY.

Give it time. Once you've played with Ythan enough, you'll eventually want to reach through the intertubez and rip off his testicles and shove them up his nostrils. I guarantee it.

If being butt hurt wasn't so appropriate for this game I'd tell you to get over it or start a diary.

Especially Ythan, who is attacking him aggressively @ L-2 for no good reason.

He is a blight on this game and anyone who knows my meta knows that this is typical for me.

@MS:

You explaining yourself is a dead horse?

I'm not trying to be obtuse but your going out of your way to be obfuscating as possible.

Have you not been reading everything?

@TBM:

Your not reading me all that well, are you?

The only reading possible is that you're a bad player. If you weren't just a bad player you'd have some explanation as to why you appear for all intents to be just a bad player. But you don't. Because you're just a bad player.

NS, it looks like everyone is being trolled (but by MS).

He's so bad this actually seems possible. But I think he's just awful.

[Ythan]

I have new experience with MS. He's shit in every game I've seen so it has nothing to do with his alignment as far as I predict. Someone please kill him tonight thanks.

[Ythan]

Under my skin? No. You have pro-town play and sentiments confused with something else entirely. A little more familiarity would clear that up but you're far from that.

[Ythan]

It sounds like he thinks he's trolling now. Can't that get a modkill or forced replacement or something.

[Ythan]

If you ever become aware of the depth of the affliction that you are to the game of Mafia then neglecting to immediately leave the site will constitute trolling in my book.

[Ythan]

No I said if you realized how bad you are, which you won't, because you think that refusing to actively participate in a game and post 100% fluff is somehow acceptable.

[Ythan]

Your post at the top of the page clearly indicates that you were mistaken about my post preceding it, and yet here you deny that. If you'd lie about this then you could lie about anything. LaL.

[Ythan]

Sorry Ythill, and anyone else to whom my comments have not been directed but whom they have still bothered.

[Ythan]

Lynch ex, vig ms.

vote Exilon

[Ythan]

Scumbucket.

[Ythan]

Looks like MS can be useful when he keeps his opinions to himself and plays sheep on our wagon.

[Ythan]

@Ythan: I believe you need to full-claim. I will as well when you do; I never leave soft-claims go over a day.

I did not soft-claim and I'm not going to full-claim.

Oh Ythill.

But something is making me pause here. He hasn't been hammered yet, which either means he's scum, that scum is already on his wagon, or the people lurking have yet to come in with the hammer.

Or this isn't fucking lylo.

Hey Guyse!

Your avatar is a little off for this thread.

@Ythan:

Exlpain why you believe we have a vig after a night of no kills.

I don't. But I'd like one. And I'd like them to kill MS.

Ythan bothers me a little bit. His vote on MS was legit as far as it really seem like someone he wanted to vote for, but he completely looked past everything that happened about Maf. He even gets mad about MS making Maf's claim seem safer than it is, but does not seem to comment on the claim itself, or question Maf directly. @Ythan any comment on this?

Yeah, I was tunneling MS.

[Ythan]

@Ythan:

Stance?

@Claus:

I put you down as Trust Ythill because it's a euphamism for lynch Exi today.

Trust.

[Ythan]

You can't just say that he's wrong because of his ego. And of course you'll get to hammer. But I don't think you'll actually die this early.

[Ythan]

Make that "Of course you'll get to claim before your hammer."

[Ythan]

Where did Ed claim, I missed it.

Also I'm not Reck, I call BS on Ex's claim, and I'm still deciding whether both he and Reck are scum.

[Ythan]

Why exactly are we looking for Reck, by the way?

[Ythan]

He included himself in the marathon game. I assumed he'd be in this one too, as the key player in the thread.

[Ythan]

What I meant to say before hitting submit is, I think it's probable that there is a Reck role but I don't know how likely it is for Reck to claim.

[Ythan]

You think that he'll claim if exiscum/reckscum, exiscum/recktown, or exitown/recktown, but not exitown/reckscum?

[Ythan]

I'm still not satisfied with Yth's justification for this request. You're convinced Ex is scum but you want Reck to out himself so you can be

really

convinced?

[Ythan]

Did you want to maybe say anything else about the thread while you're answering a claim request?

[Ythan]

We're already lynching Exi.

[Ythan]

Do you not contribute because you don't read?

[Ythan]

Every game thread?

[Ythan]

He can just come out and claim if all that obvious rope nonsense was some kind of crumbing.

[Ythan]

Other reasons.

[Ythan]

@Claus:

I put you down as Trust Ythill because it's a euphamism for lynch Exi today.

[Ythan]

You feel me NS?

[Ythan]

Luck? As in, how he hasn't been lynched?

[Ythan]

Oh, something about rope? Don't plz, btw. MS is here. We have lulz.

[Ythan]

Nice and subtle there.

[Ythan]

I want to know if any of that quote from DTM was a direct quote from his PM.

[Ythan]

Because it includes both girl friend and Girlfriend (midsentence).

[Ythan]

I'm finding the DTM claim less belieavable. Reck would not make me a VT and I just don't trust DTM's post as much.

[Ythan]

Yth, what about competing me-claims?

[Ythan]

If you predict a sweep then is there any harm in you claiming the information off of which you are working?

[Ythan]

This game is exactly 2,000 posts shorter than the GD thread. Before this post.

[Ythan]

Then let's just Ex today.

[Ythan]

Ex is at L-2. More votes please.

[Ythan]

The only players who have posted in the last two pages are already voting for Ex.

[Ythan]

I think he may be gone.

[Ythan]

Mods say actions are not resolved in the order received. Also I doubt Reck would include a game-ending role after the cumbomb debacle.

[Ythan]

Do you need to be the one to hammer?

[Ythan]

Would you mind placing your vote and allowing someone else to hammer? If you need to leave you can unvote again so as not to miss the start of night.

[Ythan]

Hey MS why don't you do something awesome.

[Ythan]

Wait really?

[Ythan]

DTM if you want to give Ythill the hammer you need to vote too.

[Ythan]

Or MS, you could do it too.

[Ythan]

And it was Ex. Wasn't the role shaft?

[Ythan]

I've already expressed my doubts that Reck would include another game-ending role.

[Ythan]

SK is scum actually.

[Ythan]

Is that a hammer?

[Ythan]

[Ythan]

[Ythan]

Heehee.

[Ythan]

Ex were you seriously telling the truth in your claim?

[Ythan]

Aw hell yes you're modding that c9++ game?

[Ythan]

Hey Ex why don't you tell them your real role name.

[Ythan]

No the other part. Did they seriously not tell you?

NS you don't know what spam is.

[Ythan]

He didn't say.

[Ythan]

wtf preview said if I put tags between the eyes and mouth it wouldn't turn into a gay smiley.

[Ythan]

I feel like that was an inappropriate amount of information for you to post.

[Ythan]

Guys I don't know that the game is going to end.

[Ythan]

Please let the game continue so I can laugh uncontrollably at my Yth-brother.

[Ythan]

It actually says I'll leave the game when I win so I predict that it will continue.

[Ythan]

Thanks MS I appreciate you hammering my lynchee.

[Ythan]

I love that claiming notreck enabled me to both incriminate my lynchee and avoid coming out as his lyncher.

[Ythan]

Also thanks Ythill for freeing me from having to push Ex's lynch myself. I was sure he'd claim lyncher and get you killed for going after him. In fact I claimed notreck because I was sure Ex was lying to draw out his lyncher.

[Ythan]

Thanks, but aren't you regretting coming out as an SK?

[Ythan]

Reck wants to fuck Dram apparently.

[Ythan]

Damn it Reck I just saw you online.

[Ythan]

oic

Go town then.

[Ythan]

Sure haven't.

[Ythan]

woo

[Ythan]

Thanks Ed!

I'll never win that scummy, dammit Ythill.

Also VT what the hell Reck.

[Ythan]

Kudos on a well-flavored game.

[Ythan]

Hey MS your new avatar is too gay for this thread.

[Ythan]

I don't think I would have bought it had I not been his lyncher. Not that I bought it as his lyncher.

[Ythan]

I got JK once and hated it

at first

. Two-sided roles like that, it's not the easiest decision to make.

[Ythan]

I don't even remember you claiming PGO. I coasted straight through this game.

[Ythan]

Enabler.

[Ythan]

You'd win that bet.

[Ythan]

Thanks Mods!