Mini 990: YuGiOh! The Abridged Mafia - (OVER)

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Hi guys. Let's see here. Some of the cast from Furry/Ridiculous Drama are here. Neat.

Players I remember playing with:
Brandi
charter (Marathon game)
Chronopie
dramonic (was in a game modded by him)
FakeGod
Pomegranate

I'm going to read the thread now and probably have something up tonight.

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Wait, are we still in RVS or are we actually going for a beloved princess lynch?

No, I just don't like 100% random lynches. Although, I'm kind of surprised you pulled out the scumbuddies idea so quickly.

Seems a bit suspicious that Kit would be so concerned about my slot. Am I the only one reading the second quote as some slight deflection back to Almaster?

RVS wagon builds on me, but then Brandi jumps off. Why? Seems odd.

my brain still is having a hard time adapting to the color scheme @_@
and preventing me from posting content... yeah.
That or I'm lazy

I don't like this.

Pom jumping on charter over one little thing also seems kind of weird, but... I think she might have done something similar in another game I played (@Pom, I am referring to you and Fate in Ridiculous Drama IIRC). Unless she has a similar meta in every game, this could be town Pom.

Dramonic's posts here and here are also blatant examples of him not providing content and admitting so.

A small wagon on bv forms, which is slightly unsettling due to speed. And who of my top suspicions is on this opportunistic wagon? Dram.

Then there's this:

I'm still catching up, sadly. For the moment I'm not sure if I'll hop on the BV wagon (although if it came down to deadline I would hammer), though the fact he isn't really responding except posting random threads (which I presume are old mafia games) makes me more open to his lynching. How many are on him now? 4?

Fencesitting. And asking for how many votes he has seems really suspicious. I didn't read it as a quickhammer move like Max did, moreso as scum trying to see if that would be a nonsuspicious spot on the wagon.

Don't see why there's a wagon on Chrono.

So after a quick skim, I have a general idea of who I'm playing with and have my suspicions. Kit is an okay vote, as he's a top suspicion of mine as well, but I think we need more votes on dram, the definition of active lurking.

Vote: dramonic

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It was somebody... I think.

I could be confusing my games/players, too. But I remember you jumped on someone for softclaiming vig or something and it turns out you were Masonvig.

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Actually, upon a quick skim to that game and ISO, I think I am confusing players here.

...

Whoops.

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DRAM'S UP TO DATE IN OTHER GAMES!
BUT NOT HERE!

Honestly, if you guys prefer I can just get replaced :S
I work 12 hour days, get up at 5 get home at 20, I should already be sleeping.
thursday is Canada day, so I should be able to get back up into it then.
Can you bear with me til then?

If I had a dollar everytime you said you were going to post content...

That said, if RL is getting in the way and/or you have too many games, I suggest you replace out.

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ftr pom (and others): please don't use just 'pie' it makes it awkward to read, (at least it has in the past)

This. Either use Chrono/Inflatable or C-Pie/I-Pie. I guess. We need to stop being in the same games; I like being called Pie. D:

I didn't even look at the timestamps on dramonic's post. Wow.

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Wait, we have to wait till Thursday for dram?

._.

Jarti: You seem to be against a dramonic lynch, or that's what I see after reading your latest post. Why?

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17 minutes.

Also, Almaster's content is barely actually existant, 3/4 of his posts are fluff or whining at me, he should watch out for the hypocrisy.

He's given a few posts worth of content. I think this is your first.

@MM: Activity's dropping because people are lazy. =/

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@MM: Activity's dropping because people are lazy. =/

*and/or busy


I really don't get dram's case. Maybe it's the lack of sleep.

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@InPie: What is your opinion of FG so far this game?

So far, FG has the same attitude as he had in Furry, but admittedly I haven't been paying as much attention to him. I might be focusing on dram a bit too much. Not to mention, lolmeta.

I'll keep you (and others) posted on my thoughts on FG.

What about you, Miss Brandi? Your thoughts on FG?

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@unique thoughts: He does have a habit of "buddying" from the one game I've played with him, though.

>_>

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Kit lynch is okay, but dram is better.

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I'm pretty sure he's been on every wagon, though really for no reason other than to wagon, from what I can tell.

Not opposed to the dram wagon, only thing worrying me is that everyone I'm suspicious of is voting dramonic (though he's given good reason for people to vote him).

1) Yeah, he does that.

2) This sounds kinda fencesitting-ish or possibly buddy-distancing? Or I'm crazy. FoS charter.

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What do you think of Fakegod? (sorry if I already asked you this)

@InPie: What is your opinion of FG so far this game?

So far, FG has the same attitude as he had in Furry, but admittedly I haven't been paying as much attention to him. I might be focusing on dram a bit too much. Not to mention, lolmeta.

I'll keep you (and others) posted on my thoughts on FG.

So far, he's his usual wagoning self, so nothing much to report yet.

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Being that Almaster was one of the leaders of the dram lynch, I'm not seeing him as scum.

Vote: Kit

for now.

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@FG: Traitor is the worst role ever; I don't ever want to hear you reference Furry again. ;_;
@Brandi: Is your avatar talking to me or FG or anyone specific?

If memory serves, dram voted Kit at the point where he was under heavy suspicion, no? It's completely possible dram thought he could get a wagon started on Kit and when he flipped town, get suspicion off him. Or, vote him knowing a wagon wouldn't start and make Kit seem more town.

Vote stays for now, although I could move to possibly charter.

Having trouble keeping up with onsite games, offsite games/stuff and RL, so sorry for lack of content and/or rushed posts.

Eh, 2:10 can favor scum due to paranoia, but it depends on the roles. Mountainous (just nillas everywhere, right?) could probably favor scum.

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I'm an idiot.

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Kit: Your ISOs 1, 2, 5, 6.

I'll explain later; after work.

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Did I say ISO 1? Whoops, that's RVS and irrelevant. Anyways:

ISO2

Wait, are we still in RVS or are we actually going for a beloved princess lynch?

Soft-defending my slot.

ISO3

No, I just don't like 100% random lynches. Although, I'm kind of surprised you pulled out the scumbuddies idea so quickly.

You don't like random lynches (but voted dram for a random reason), imply that BP will be lynched and the last part sounds liek you're trying to deflect some suspicion back to Almaster.

ISO5

1) My experience is that she would be lynched, but it seems like it's dragging on long enough that the wagon might fall apart. 2) I would understand if I was vehemently defending her, which I'm not. "Why are people voting X" is a fairly standard question from what I understand. I'm rather upset that she hasn't posted but I guess it hasn't really been that long, either.

That last part is what I call fencesitting.

How does scumhunting = throwing random votes on people and hoping something sticks? On the flipside, the fact that BP still hasn't posted even though she's the main wagon at the moment annoys me immensely.

Glare of Suspicion: BP

It's sort of like a FoS, except it isn't a FoS.

Sounds like Kit is trying to lead a wagon on BP, constantly reminding everyone (s)he is lurking, but yet stays on dram. Kit is suspicious of BP (then again it "isn't an FoS". -_-) but yet leaves the RVS vote on dram.

I don't like.

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EBWOP: Quote above is ISO6.

ISO7

I do agree with this. I didn't like [BP's] wagon and how fast it was built on very shaky bits of nothing.

I was saying this the whole damn time.

No, you were soft-defending my slot in the beginning by implying BP was going to be lynched, then switched to suspecting BP of lurking and finding her suspicious because of it.

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unvote, vote: charter

For now, although a Kit lynch would be a swell idea. I'll jump back there if I get more support since my gut is leaning more towards Kit. Logic > Gut though and Pom makes a very good case, so I'll switch.

They're both great options though.

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Or you could be like, person who suspects bv310 is killed, bv310 starts day by making bad votes against person who tried really, really hard to lynch his partner and did so.

eh, I'm confused.

He's saying that Chrono suspects bv D1, and then Chrono dies N1. And then D2 bv starts by voting Almaster, who pushed the wagon on dramscum the day before.

But wouldn't this be an extremely stupid move if bv is in fact scum?

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I apologize for not posting as much either. Although I have a full work schedule this week, this is now my only active game. So yay. I'll force myself through the thread and reread some stuff at some point tomorrow. Waiting mostly on charter for now, though.

Already said bv is probtown, because if bv was scum than killing Chrono and going for Al straight off is a stupid-as-shit play. Brandi does lurk a slight bit from what I remember, though I'd have to look through Furry again because I don't remember anything pre-3-way-LYLO offhand.

Anyways: what does everyone think of bv/Almaster's claims so far? I think Almaster is pretty much confirmed town with no counterclaims, of course, since Scum Doublevoters seem overpowered as all hell, especially in a Mini - not to mention being a Scum Doublevoter and bussing on D1 would just be... silly, so Al can't be scum. As for bv, he is most likely town as well due to "if-he's-scum-that's-stupid" reasoning, although if (and only if) one of the two claims were false, obviously I would go with this one being fake. For now though, bv is town.

bv: What do you think of the case I made on Kit?

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Unvote, Vote: FakeGod

- sorry to take away your hammer, Al.

The speculation was one thing, but directing PRs (especially protective ones) is scummy as all hell.

charter, I have explained why bv is probtown, but meh.

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There's usually reasons why people don't claim, FG, and I haven't seen many instances where scum hasn't claimed at L-2/L-1.

Also, so your plan was to get three more claims ASAP... in addition to the two we already have...?

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(Also, Pie, there have been times when I haven't claimed at L-1 as scum.)

Yes, but in the few games I've played and some games I have watched, it's usually town not claiming due to having a PR, or wanting to be hammered so the wagon can be analyzed better, or whatnot. I've seen scum make crazy claims, or just claim vanilla, more than I have seen scum not claim at all. This alone doesn't get charter off the hook COMPLETELY, but he's also responding and asking questions and stuff, so we can discuss the idea of his lynch as time goes by. Whereas FG is just being scummy as all get-out and needs to die.

I think FG kind of claimed but he might want to be more specific.

ATTENTION DUELISTS

MY HAIR WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THE VOTECOUNT!

AlmasterGM (1) - bv310
Brandi (1) - Charter
bv310 (0) -
charter (2) - Jarti FakeGod
FakeGod (3) - InflatablePie AlmasterGM Pomegranate
InflatablePie (0) -
Jarti (0) -
Kitoari (0) -
MaxMouse (0) -
Pomegranate (0) -

10 alive, 6 to lynch

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Pom pointed out the main two problems with this claim. I don't buy it either.

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Joey has his name 'legally-changed to Steve' in the YGO Abridged series and is temporarily under Marik's control.

Being that Dramonic flipped as Marik, isn't it possible that the scumteam consists of Marik and Steves? So wouldn't this make FG a likely scum candidate if his role name is true?

vote: Pomegranate

I say we kill him...in America.

Jarti claimed!

unvote
vote: Jarti

SCUMSLIP

XD

Bandit Keith became a Steve under Marik's control as well, IIRC. Of course, since dramonic was scum, he could be WIFOMing, but I think this is a solid theory.

Anyways, those statements can either be a breadcrumb or just thoughts by Chrono and there's no way of us knowing for sure. FG could still be scum - especially if the mafia are given fakeclaims; this is a Themed game after all. My vote stays. A nameclaim is not going to make FG's suspicious-ness go away.

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Of course this implies that Jarti would be scum as well if that claim was true. Hrmmm... it would make sense since Jarti is defending FG so hard today.

Or maybe I'm just crazy.

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Concerning your actions in Furry, the life gamble thing was a stupid move because anyone jumping on your wagon after Fugi's lynch would have been obvious scum taking advantage of an easy lynch. I don't think I ever explained why I said this was stupid in that game.

Concerning this game, I usually try not going by meta - I use it as a last resort or to augment an existing argument (or maybe when I'm scum). Just because you act scummy in every game as town doesn't mean we shouldn't lynch you. It just so happens I think you're scum this time around.

Also in Furry, the votes came right after another with minimal discussion, where there's been some discussion 9and unwillingness to lynch even) in this one.

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Concerning charter: okay, you're trying to say that charter just deflected a ton of suspicion on to you, making him suspicious? You're doing the same thing to him/

everyone on your wagon

Concerning Pom: I don't get it.

Concerning self: addressed.

Concerning wagon speed: I didn't vote you due to "easy excuses". I voted you because of you directing PRs AND wanting three more claims. If someone else did this, would you find them scummy? I can't speak for anyone else, but I'd imagine they agree with me if they're voting you as well.

Do you guys really believe that I am scum, and that I would have claimed Joey and put myself in this position?

A) WIFOM
B) Being that you have one or two people that apparently believe you: yes, I can believe you would this.

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All that said, consider me semi-V/LA for the weekend. I work a double shift (about 12PM-10PM EDT) tomorrow and my girlfriend's birthday is Sunday. I will try to get at least ONE post in at some point if it's important, but I cannot guarantee I'll post this weekend.

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Back.

Gonna try and catch up now.

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Al, Kit hasn't posted in like 9 days. Preview edit: ... So you're still keeping your vote on that slot? <_<

It seems I haven't missed much, still okay with the FG vote.

@FG, what are you still waiting for a response to? I think I've addressed everything.
@Jarti: I assume that was a joke given your response. Guess I'm looking too much into things then.

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I could have sworn I commented on meta. Didn't I? Either way, just because FG apparently acted scummy before as town doesn't clear him now. And asking for multiple claims and directing PRs? He wasn't even close to acting like THIS in Furry, IIRC.

And Jarti, of course those would only apply if FG flips scum. I have a habit of looking for pairings when I think I have scum and it was just something I noticed, even if I got carried away. And I just don't believe FG at the moment, so of course I'd suspect the one defending him so hard. Wouldn't you?

charter, I voted you because I thought Pom had a good case on you, however FG became scummier + you defended yourself against said case, so I switched off.

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I honestly think he was worse in FURRY. Way worse. Especially on the last day. I was so convinced he was scum by how he was talking, and so convinced you were town.

In Furry all he really did was wagon and constantly defend himself rather than scumhunt, iirc, but I forget about games kinda quickly. Here, he's wanting claims and directing PRs. Kinda different.

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At the time you

first

called me out for "defending FG so hard today" & being his possible partner for it I had just recently:
Called FakeGod out on what I thought was a breadcrumble that didn't match his claim (essentially I was ready to vote him if he didn't have a good explanation).
Did the research and pointed out the possible breadcrumbles from Chronopie.
And then say "I don't want to lynch FakeGod" after he explained my misinterpretation of Timeater.

Essentially you tried to make the connection between me & FakeGod much larger than it was after I decided I wasn't for the lynch. Discrediting the people against the lynch by finding ways to connect them to the lynchee/exaggerate their opposition to the lynch comes off as scummy to me.

Right, so I got carried away with the crazy BK/joey theory thing, I know. I get a bit overeager when I'm sure I have scum. When I find someone very scummy, naturally people that say they won't lynch him/her jump up a bit on my scumdar.

Aside from his nameclaim, which now seems to be why you don't want to lynch him, you don't think FG has acted scummy at all? And you avoided my question from earlier, so let's reword it to fit your situation. You think I'm scum, right? So if someone came along saying "PIE IS TOWN WE'RE NOT LYNCHING HIM", you wouldn't find them a bit suspicious as well?

I do have to agree with you on Max, though. He needs to talk more.

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When I have time, I will post a full case on FG. Oh, and personally, when someone acts a certain way and people find them suspicious, then that person changes to appeal to the town... that, I find suspicious.

I have a habit for looking for pairings when I have scum. It's my playstyle, more or less. Brandi (and FG) can attest to this - in Furry, I had a suspicion of someone and looked for their partner. True, I was scum in that game, but I can find links to where I have done it as town (although they are offsite).

Also, it's funny how I'm seen as suspicious for looking for connections, yet the main reason you don't want to lynch FG is supposed connections to Chrono.

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Offsite game: Post 1, Post 2, Post 3, and a few more times throughout that game. This is the one I remember the most because, surprise, I was right. Ignore the fact it's in my "type in lowercase and be semi-aggressive" phase, you can look at my wiki for my games to grab my general town/scum playstyle nowadays.

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I'm not trying to deflect suspicion; it's a flaw in logic FMPOV. Connections are connections.

Speaking of dramonic, if you think I am scum, then you believe that I bussed (very hard) for dramonic, then? Is this correct?

Going to add that I do find Brandi's vote on me a bit odd, considering that I did address meta (although after FG brought it up) here. Yet she talks about it like I never addressed it. She says I've been scummy lately but does not explain why, and relies on the reasoning that FG used pages earlier to accuse me. At least Jarti has some reasoning behind his vote, even if I think he's wrong.

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^Meant to say pushed for dramonic's lynch, changed it to bussed and forgot to delete a word there.

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Glad to see that Fish is contributing more than Kit was. Al, has your view on Fishy changed at all?

Maybe it's just me, but it feels activity has dropped. I know I said I'd write up a case on FG, but I have been both busy and lazy </nothelping>.

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EBWOP: your view on that slot (now occupied by Fishy)

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2. Shouldn't you know I'm wrong if you're town, not just 'think' I'm wrong about you being scum?

You're nitpicking at this point, you know.

Also:

unvote, vote: charter

For now, although a Kit lynch would be a swell idea. I'll jump back there if I get more support since my gut is leaning more towards Kit. Logic > Gut though and Pom makes a very good case, so I'll switch.

They're both great options though.

charter, I voted you because I thought Pom had a good case on you, however FG became scummier + you defended yourself against said case, so I switched off.

I'm going to go out on another crazy limb here, but I think Jarti is referring to me in his "spoiler"? If so, how is this not satisfactory? I agreed with Pom and the points she made, however placed my vote where I felt it belonged better PLUS charter defended his actions, as well.

I also suppose that, despite FG not being clear to you anymore, you think he's town not only because of his claim, but for the fact that I, one of your scumreads is voting him. Is this partially correct? Just wanting to clear things up.

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@charter: Brandi is a bit lurky and asks a lot of questions that she doesn't follow up on. But it goes along with her actions in the last game I played with her (where she was town). So, I'm getting a town read on her at the moment.

Consider me V/LA till Monday. Working double shifts tomorrow and Sunday, probably won't have time to post.

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@charter: Brandi is a bit lurky and asks a lot of questions that she doesn't follow up on. But it goes along with her actions in the last game I played with her (where she was town). So, I'm getting a town read on her at the moment.

Wait a second, you said you don't use meta!

Concerning this game, I usually try not going by meta - I use it as a last resort or to augment an existing argument

Key word is try. ISOing Brandi, I didn't gather much from her posts. So I used meta as a last resort.

Going to sleep now - consider my

48-hour V/LA (@Mod)

in effect.

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Posting during my V/LA because I'm awake early. I still work from 12PM Eastern till roughly 10 tonight and I'm running on three hours of sleep. I promise I will try my best to make a content post tomorrow.

@Brandi: FG is acting slightly different in his meta from Furry, imo. I said earlier, he's acting scummier in this game than in Furry by a longshot. You, however, are acting exactly the same as in Furry. You're still not being very protown although I appreciate the recent content in your last two posts, but I don't have the feeling you are scum. Stupid way to "clear" comeone? Probably.

FG/Brandi, do you two have any completed games as scum that I could skim real quick when I get a chance?

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The main problem I'm having right now is that everyone's already addressed a lot of things I was going to do and for some reason I have lost my motivation to make a huge post. Not to mention a lot of people are going V/LA a lot (myself included) and no single wagon is really taking off. We need to organize and pick someone to lynch. We're going on three RL weeks and things are starting to drag (for me anyways).

I would be okay with the following lynches: FakeGod (of course), Max, Pom, charter

Not okay with Alm/bv because... yeah. Brandi is seemingly town on mostly gut with hints of meta, surprisingly I'm getting a townread on Jarti (ignoring my crazy overzealous spaz-moment back there) and finally, Fishy is coming off very protown (moreso than Kit at the least).

FakeGod is my preferred lynch candidate.
Max did make a nice case on FG, but this does come after people call him out on active lurking. I want to see where his vote goes, as that will influence my reads a bit.
Pom hasn't stood out to me that much this game, seems like she's trying to blend in a bit. I'll have to read her in ISO, but I would not object to her lynch at all at this point.
charter... I've been keeping an eye on charter and nothing has stood out horribly besides him apparently not reading any posts because he keeps asking things that have been answered. This is mostly due to process of elimination, so he's last on my list. I'll read Max's case on charter soon, as well.

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Alright, Brandi/Pie scumteam. Let's consolidate the votes on one of them. There's no possible way you can have a town read that strong on Brandi unless you are trying to buddy up to her to get her to stop voting your or you were looking to buy town points after she died or she's your scumbuddy.

Nope, nope, and definitely nope. 0 for 3, charter. I mean, I can see how you'd think this (tbh I'd probably be suspicious of someone shouting THIS PERSON IS TOWN despite some evidence otherwise as well), but you happen to be wrong.

First guess: I couldn't care less if she was still voting me. She finds me scummy, I can't do anything besides try my best to be protown to prove to her and everyone else that I am town. The second guess: not only is this not my intention, but this implies that Brandi will be lynched or killed soon, no? Seems odd to mention. And for your last guess (and I know this is WIFOM), but I had already been called out for my strange way of calling Brandi town: why would I keep mentioning it if we were scumbuddies?

L-2, btw.

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That would imply I am scum, Al.

I'm not voting for someone I think is town.

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Since a FG lynch won't be supported, are there

any

other lynches you guys would be willing to go through with besides us two? If everyone could give at least one or two people they'd be okay with lynching, that'd be nice.

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Oh, and after reading even just the first few posts of hers from that game, Brandi seems to be

much

more helpful/protown and provides more content as scum than as town (see: Furry mafia), oddly enough.

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Brandi's claim fits in with her play, IMO. And I'm okay with this:

Unvote, Vote: Pom

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Also, out of game, but I live an hour from Roanoke in Lynchburg, Inflatable. Small world.

Wow, that's a first. I don't know very many people from my area of Virginia that play mafia - a lot of VA players seem to live closer to Richmond or near the Maryland border... still 3-4 hours away. =/

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Brandi's claim fits in with her play, IMO. And I'm okay with this:

Unvote, Vote: Pom

How do you figure this?

She's been a bit lurky, kinda fading into the background (as I think someone else brought up?). It would make sense for a doc to not want to stand out amongst the other players. Of course, doctells and some scumtells can overlap sometimes, including lurking/blending in. But being that I already thought she was town, well, there you go.

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EBWOP: I might be confusing Brandi and Max about the blending in statement. But she has been a bit quiet, we know this. Still makes sense.

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Wait, why am I scum again?

Wait, why were you voting Brandi again?

Also, I read you in ISO and one thing that stands out to me is your reluctance to lynch dram until quite far into the wagon - vote 4, in fact. Seems a bit odd, don't you think?

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Fishy: I agree with some of the points the others have made, but I did offer an original thought as well as asking why Pom was voting Brandi since she never gave reasoning yet was asking for reasons herself. May I ask why this seemingly caused you to vote me?

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Unexplained votes can be scummy, yes, especially when said person asks for reasoning from others while not giving their own.

And third/fourth on a wagon is a common tell. True, there's the WIFOM of "scum know this is a tell so they won't do it" but meh. This one part of that comment aside, I still find it odd that she waited so long to vote dram, like she was trying to tell dram "I'm gonna bus you if you don't stop lurking." or something. Look at Pom (now Plum) in ISO - even if you don't agree with me, can you at least see where I'm coming from?

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I agreed with the cases of others and even attempted to provide original reasoning (although I realize this was in a different post). In 537 (my ISO 45), I also said I would not object to a Pom lynch because her posts gave off a vibe of trying to blend in.

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Pom says she doesn't like the dram wagon in 104/ISO 9.

I understand what the dram 'wagon' is built on, but I don't think it's that scummy.

Then she makes some other posts, occasionally commenting that she doesn't like the dram wagon or doesn't think it's scummy, etc..

@Pom - Sure. When I was scum. Also, there's a difference between not being at the computer and being at the computer but not posting. Dram was clearly the latter. Explain to me how LURKING is not scummy.

First of all, posting two hours later is not the same as posting say, 15 minutes later.

I'll give Dram one more chance, but not more.

Hey, Pom, know how you were saying Dramonic's lurking and then coming when called wasn't scummy because it took him 2 hours to show up, not the 15 minutes I quoted?

WELL GUESS HOW LONG IT TOOK HIM THIS TIME?

3 minutes.

If that plus all the 1-liners and promises to post aren't scummy, then I don't know what is. Replace, wait, whatever. There are too many strikes in my book for it to even be relevant.

I know; I looked at the timestamps. And that's why I'm seriously considering voting him this time. He gets until I show up tomorrow afternoon, or thereabouts.

VOTE: dramonic. It's been long enough.

Then, there's this post by Almaster that Pom completely agrees with. And then she agrees with a dram lynch being better than a Kit one here. I find it odd how she first pretty much ignored dramonic besides one or two posts defending him, then was reluctant to join the wagon, then when she DID join the wagon she pushes it (by agreeing with me/Al) like she was supporting it the whole time.

Then, add in that with 7 to lynch (6 with Al's vote), her vote's placement on the wagon (at fourth) would be plausible for a scum bus.

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*sigh* I guess since I think I'm at L-2 again and with Almaster's doublevote, now would be the best time to do this.


I'm Mokuba Kaiba, TOWN Hostage. Even though my big brother Seto is a dick (putting me in his video game as a girl for example), he's still my brother and he often saves me from whoever kidnaps me (which happens almost every other episode). So I'm trying to find him and thank him for always rescuing me, even if he doesn't seem to care. Each night, I can scan one player to find out if they're my big brother or not. I don't know my big brother's alignment or role though, so I guess this scan is useless: MaxMouse is not my big brother. It was a tossup between him and Kit for their early posts in the RVS.

@Mod: What if we have money and would like to circumvent our constrictions? I for one am positive I have that sort of income stashed away somewhere.

Anyway, this is why I'm kind of doubting FG's claim, as it seems odd to have two sibling-esque roles in the same game...

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FG: I do not know what happens, if anything happens, when I find my big brother. I'm guessing the unique flavor/role name is due to me being kidnapped all the time? I don't know Seto's role either, so I don't know if he has a similar ability or not.

When I say sibling-esque, I mean your claim of Joey being a "VT Sibling" with Serenity. Seems odd to have two sets of roles that interact like this.

In addition to Seto possibly being a PR like you guys are discussing, it's also possible that Seto is a scum role or third-party, because my PM said I don't know his alignment either. In that case, my big brother most likely won't claim, as scum-Seto nameclaiming would be too risky with one of the mafia down (since I'm 99.8% sure there's either only one or two mafia left at this point) and TP-Seto would create similar issues for that person's wincon as well. This is a likely scenario IMO,

IF

FG is town-Joey, as I can't see two pairs of "siblings" as town in the same game. /speculation

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1) It says that I don't know my big brother's role or alignment.

2) Mokuba Kaiba.

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Most of the characters refer to Seto by his last name, though. No one really refers to Joey as "Wheeler" (well, I think Seto Kaiba does, actually, but more people call him Joey). So I guess this was to avoid confusion or something.

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I doubt Pie is a traitor, if he were, that would be HILARIOUS to me, and also pretty terrible.

After Furry Mafia, if I was a traitor I would have replaced back out, to be honest. /wifom

Plum already explains the surname thing better than I did and I still don't see how it matters, but claiming if you have a first and last name can't hurt, right? bv has already claimed he has a last name, so there's one other person besides me...

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I could attempt to argue how convenient it is that Jarti CCs me when he was one of the people highly suspicious of me and this is a tactic to make sure I would get lynched and how breadcrumbs can be planned as scum from D1. Buuuut, I know you guys wouldn't buy that. So, let's save everyone the time and effort.

Unvote, Vote: InflatablePie

Preview Edit: OH COME ON

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SCREW THE MOKUBAMOBILE, I HAVE MONEY

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What are the odds that I would end up claiming the role name of the person who was trying to get me lynched?

We coulda used a safeclaim list. <_<