Mini 1011: Help! My Computer Got Infected! (Game over!)

[Tazaro]

Unvote

I do not necessarily agree with my predecesor bv310's vote. I will take time to collect my thoughts and post some content. But I have already read this thing. Nine good pages.

[Tazaro]

Trust no one; not even me. This game entails harder reads imo because PieMan's spelling may be a true restriction, or may be a clever way to make us skim over his words. About jelly jiggler, I can see why people are suspicious of him, but he doesn't seem devious or trying to manipulate people's opinions.
@jelly jiggler, make cases against people if you want to redeem yourself. Read what I have to say in my CALL TO ARMS below:
@Twomz, the poster named Nobody Special is not going to be anyone's lynch day one, so unvote him please. See my CALL TO ARMS below.
@ Me=Weird, if you are not sure whom to vote for or if you can wait a while for more information (like after a nightkill) before voting for jelly jiggler based on not-yet-revealed evidence if there's evidence that shows up against him, then read what I have to say next:
CALL TO ARMS: Join my effort, you three guys that I addressed (Twomz, jelly jiggler, and Me=Weird) to at least get a lynch; in this situation of hard-to-interpret reads that is vexingly accentuated by unpredictable power roles, we need to enforce "Lynch all Lurkers" in this particular game to take care of known threats and clear our path somewhat: I'm speaking of gandalf5166's anti-town play of lurking. I know for a fact that gandalf5166 is on this site a lot and should have posted unless he's a mafioso who's stalling due to not knowing how to manipulate things in this game.
Vote for him, guys! I just need you three to do it!

gandalf5166

[Tazaro]

Let me fix that voting format error and recopy the rest! My vote's at the bottom:
Trust no one; not even me. This game entails harder reads imo because PieMan's spelling may be a true restriction, or may be a clever way to make us skim over his words. About jelly jiggler, I can see why people are suspicious of him, but he doesn't seem devious or trying to manipulate people's opinions.
@jelly jiggler, make cases against people if you want to redeem yourself. Read what I have to say in my CALL TO ARMS below:
@Twomz, the poster named Nobody Special is not going to be anyone's lynch day one, so unvote him please. See my CALL TO ARMS below.
@ Me=Weird, if you are not sure whom to vote for or if you can wait a while for more information (like after a nightkill) before voting for jelly jiggler based on not-yet-revealed evidence if there's evidence that shows up against him, then read what I have to say next:
CALL TO ARMS: Join my effort, you three guys that I addressed (Twomz, jelly jiggler, and Me=Weird) to at least get a lynch; in this situation of hard-to-interpret reads that is vexingly accentuated by unpredictable power roles, we need to enforce "Lynch all Lurkers" in this particular game to take care of known threats and clear our path somewhat: I'm speaking of gandalf5166's anti-town play of lurking. I know for a fact that gandalf5166 is on this site a lot and should have posted unless he's a mafioso who's stalling due to not knowing how to manipulate things in this game.
Vote for him, guys! I just need you three to do it!

VOTE: gandalf5166

[Tazaro]

Well, if gandalf's on his way out due to issues then...

Unvote

Hey, FakeGod, UncertainKitten, and PieMan, because gandalf's lurking is due to issues and not due to the strategy of the game, if you were voting for gandalf for lurking then unvote him, why dontcha? I see no reason to keep your votes on him. I urge people to suspect anyone who keeps his/her vote on gandalf.

[Tazaro]

Another lurkers to weed out? screl1?

[Tazaro]

Just frustrated because the vote numbers are as far from consensus as I've ever seen, which come to think of it is stupid for me to worry about because the deadline's not imminent.

[Tazaro]

Actually, why would a mafia role have a post restriction like PieMan? I was thinking VIRUS, but the role of a virus wouldn't affect ITSELF in the way that PieMan is affected. Take a look at xvart & Nothing Special, everyone, for picking on the PieMan with their unique votes. Who doubts the PieMan has a crippled townie role?

[Tazaro]

Double post: and if it is a mafia role to get us to overlook PieMan, that's bastard modding indeed. Thumbs up to StrangeCoug

[Tazaro]

PieMan's restriction plays with my mind. Perfect bastard modding.

On a side note I don't think that PieMan is going to be the most annoying poster anymore....

Everyone says that about me.

[Tazaro]

Any heuristics to use in StrangerCoug's bastard mod games?

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BUT if you lynch JJ we kill a virus. So why don't you unvote and vote for him.

You know that JJ is a virus?

[Tazaro]

How do you know he's scum?

[Tazaro]

*reads isolated posts of JJ*

[Tazaro]

I have produced some content and active lurking is a pretty unreliable scum tell. If I had to vote right now I would probably vote for screl but I'm going to go over the game again before I do that. I'm actually about to leave for college right now so I will do it after if I'm up to it.

What do you think of jelly jiggler, screl? Is this a tactic that jelly jiggler looked up and decided to use as a noob: distancing from his scum buddy?

[Tazaro]

Why did jelly jiggler speak of voting for screl when nobody else voted for him?

[Tazaro]

^ That's EVIDENCE that there's a scum pair between screl and JJ. But not knowledge, though, FakeGod.

[Tazaro]

@FakeGod, don't know if SRS.
@jelly jiggler:

If I had to vote right now I would probably vote for

screl

Explain this, jelly jiggler. Why screl?

[Tazaro]

SRS = Serious. That was about your Sherlock Holmes comment; I'm not THAT good lol, but it seems you see what I'm saying about JJ.
Repeated for necessity: @jelly jiggler:

If I had to vote right now I would probably vote for

screl

Explain this, jelly jiggler. Why screl?[/quote]

[Tazaro]

Repeated (to get rid of the [/quote] at the end): @jelly jiggler:

If I had to vote right now I would probably vote for

screl

Explain this, jelly jiggler. Why screl?

[Tazaro]

Responsible newbs should know the L-1 rule of roleclaiming (the time to roleclaim is when you're one vote away from lynch: L-1); and no, vezopiraka, I did not say "don't know if SRS" because I had neutral thoughts about FakeGod's alignment (if was because of Sherl. Hol.), you didn't have to clue me in that FakeGod is town by saying "FakeGod is town" to me.
Well, let's have our jelly jiggler at L-1 to get a roleclaim:

VOTE: jelly jiggler

[Tazaro]

Responsible newbs should know the L-1 rule of roleclaiming (the time to roleclaim is when you're one vote away from lynch: L-1); and no, vezopiraka, I did not say "don't know if SRS" because I had neutral thoughts about FakeGod's alignment (if was because of Sherl. Hol.), you didn't have to clue me in that FakeGod is town by saying "FakeGod is town" to me.
Well, let's have our jelly jiggler at L-1 to get a roleclaim:

VOTE: jelly jiggler

In addition, we need just another vote to get jelly jiggler at L-1. Me=Weird, you considered jelly jiggler as someone to vote, place your vote now. Me=Weird's jackpot can be one blue-skinned scum named JJ. What do you say, M=W?

[Tazaro]

Pay close attention to my questions, M=W:
Screl and JJ, a scum pair?
1)

I have produced some content and active lurking is a pretty unreliable scum tell. If I had to vote right now I would probably vote for screl but I'm going to go over the game again before I do that. I'm actually about to leave for college right now so I will do it after if I'm up to it.

My questions: What do you think of jelly jiggler, screl? Is this a tactic that jelly jiggler looked up and decided to use as a noob: distancing from his scum buddy?

2) My questions: Why did jelly jiggler speak of voting for screl when nobody else has talked about considering voting him--nobody else voted for screl, so what does jelly jiggler see about screl (distancing opportunity?) ? Why not anybody else, jelly jiggler?

3) Repeated again for jelly jiggler's eyes:

If I had to vote right now I would probably vote for

screl

My vital question for jelly jiggler: Explain this, jelly jiggler. Why screl?

[Tazaro]

Well maybe it won't for you since you aren't even trying. Ah w/e I will do it anyway since I have nothing to lose. I am the mouse and I have no powers.

The people who have no powers are vanilla townies. There is not more than one mouse; I doubt there is more than one vanilla townie. Your claim is suspect.

[Tazaro]

EDIT: "I doubt there is NOT more than one vanilla townie." I'm bad with my NOT omissions sometimes.

[Tazaro]

I meant to say that I don't think that there are NOT more than one vanilla. I'll put the edit in to repeat my point:

Well maybe it won't for you since you aren't even trying. Ah w/e I will do it anyway since I have nothing to lose. I am the mouse and I have no powers.

The people who have no powers are vanilla townies. There is not more than one mouse; I doubt there is NOT more than one vanilla townie. Your claim is suspect, jelly jiggler. <<<<< Unless a mouse is some type of tree stump?.

[Tazaro]

What was I thinking saying "tree stump"?

[Tazaro]

I'm a single memory module, jelly jiggler. I think there would be others.

[Tazaro]

Guess what my power is, everyone. You'll generate flavor discussion. Please do that. And I want to suggest that flavor is very important in this context. Consider PieMan; what's the object or software that he is? It's got to be related to his post restriction.

[Tazaro]

I won't tell anyone my power even if they get it right. Lighten up, Kitty.

[Tazaro]

Double post: And you guys sure as heck better not discuss things in a way that gives away your actual powers.

[Tazaro]

UK is scum all the way with tazaro.

That's a stretch Come on, vezo.

[Tazaro]

UK is scum all the way with tazaro. Although I am not that sure about tazaro.
C'mon. You discussed with me flavor and now you are suspicious of tazaro cause he wants to discuss flavor?
Sorry that doesn't cut it for me.
You are the next day's lynch.

Does this mean JJ's not scum?

I assume Vezo means that JJ is THIS day's lynch.

[Tazaro]

Triple Post: Kitten, I'm not forcing anyone to discuss. I want to know if anybody can discuss flavor in a way that's strategic. It seems interesting-- to me, anyway.

[Tazaro]

Further interesting is the fact we've been having a fairly good discussion about Jelly Jiggler and suddenly you try to start up a flavor spec discussion.

That was prompted by jelly jiggler's "mouse" claim. I'm still waiting to see if M=W will put jelly jiggler at L-1. Then we would need a hammer.

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@UncertainKitten: He has five votes against him; I voted for him and so did FakeGod when there was three votes. M=W could make six. And then the hammer.

UK is still scum though.

It's obvious that she was thinking that the way that I MYSELF was referring to flavor discussion was dangerous. It's different from the discussion she had with you because I wasn't it. Simple as pie.

[Tazaro]

EDIT: "...because I wasn't IN it.

[Tazaro]

I have significant problems with the direction you are trying to take this game and your all mighty attitude about directing everyone, but I will get to that later.

I would like to know if by any chance you are talking about formulating a case against me. And I'll multipost less. I do that in games once people ask me to.

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@Jelly Jiggler: WAIT A MINUTE!!! YOU DIDN'T answer the QUESTION, you scum:

If I had to vote right now I would probably vote for

screl

QUESTION: Explain this, jelly jiggler. Why screl?[/quote]

[Tazaro]

We can't let jelly jiggler get away with not answer my question two posts above this one. Read the question JJ ^

[Tazaro]

JJ had the last relevant comment so far.

[Tazaro]

Edit: I meant UK.

[Tazaro]

@tazaro Y R we discuzzing rolls? ??

Flavor. It's about flavor. I mean a thing I'm wondering about has to do with this question: How many different types of memory modules are there?

[Tazaro]

@tazaro Y R we discuzzing rolls? ??

Flavor. It's about flavor. I mean a thing I'm wondering about has to do with this question: How many different types of memory modules are there?

But I guess memory modules aren't the only thing that people can be. I loner? People can't at least say whether they're IN the computer or OUT of the computer? Mouse, JJ's claim, is out of the computer. But if JJ's lieing, then maybe all of us are things that IN the computer. PieMan, you talking about being the sixth vote for JJ? Wow, did I convince you?

[Tazaro]

Now that I've talked to PieMan on this page with two posts, I have this to say:
JELLY JIGGLER, ANSWER THE QUESTION IN POST 307. What, can't come up with a lie about why you said you would PROBABLY vote for screl?

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True, JJ is afk for a while, PieMan. BUT HE BETTER ANSWER MY QUESTION. JJ must answer that question!

[Tazaro]

I urge people to suspect anyone who keeps his/her vote on gandalf.

@PieMan, Jelly Jiggler is a better vote than Gandalf. Unvote gandalf, the rest of you guys who have voted gandalf.
@JJ, answer my question in post 307. <<<You'll have no excuse to miss it>>>>

[Tazaro]

Aren't I the only one voting Gandalf, a.k.a Diginova? For rather well explained reasons?

Yes. I only payed attention to the votes on JJ. Sorry.

[Tazaro]

...I didn't realize PieMan unvoted, and I forgot who the other guy was who voted gandaf.

[Tazaro]

facepalm: I looked at the vote count on p226.

[Tazaro]

I'm kinda agitated that JJ avoided the question when he did some interaction involving his mouse roleclaiming a while ago.

[Tazaro]

Damn, I'm getting game stress. I looked at the latest vote count for votes on JJ, but when I came back I looked at 226 for the votes on Gandalf. And sorry about the triple post; I should calm down before I disperse my thoughts all over the place in multiple posts.

[Tazaro]

When I was doing a reread a few days ago he was the only one that really caught my attention. Specifically the first thing I noticed were his first two posts. In post #0 he says that pieman deserves to die because of the way he talks and then in post #1 he seems to agree with xvart about him having a post restriction and yet he continues to vote for pieman. Later in post #4 he changes his vote to me and says my ideas are dangerous even though pieman was arguing for it more. I would have thought that would have made him keep his vote on pieman. Notice that my point here is not to distance myself from those ideas but to point out the inconsistencies of screl.

That actually makes sense. Heh.

[Tazaro]

Unvote

@tazaro We r knot all in teh comp

You're right. Like a mouse is outside. I'm glad that I made sure he answered that because I think kvart could be scummier than screl...

[Tazaro]

I have significant problems with the direction you are trying to take this game and your all mighty attitude about directing everyone, but I will get to that later. I just had to post this because I couldn't take it to get home and see six more pages of spam.

xvart... talking about me; a plan is brewing here in xvart's mind. This won't be good... read his posts in isolation, everyone.

[Tazaro]

How about you drop the fake post restriction and explain to me how jumping hard and fast is defensive and being the center are appealing to emotion? PieMan - were you scum in the noob game you played? Also, how is leading people scummy? I'll do whatever I need to and use whoever I need to to get scum lynched.

The restriction is obviously not fake; kvart seems to be acerbic like Leech, who was scum in my noob game, 943, and scum like it when people say they were mafia in their previous game, because that makes those people like confirmed townies due to probability of not being scum the second time and they are therefore convenient night kills to keep around scummier looking players. Also, if the persons says they were town in their previous game, this still doesn't hurt the scum because it still gives a player who might be scum this time.
Saying how is leading people scummy, kvart? Well, I'm leading people, kvart. So is leading people scummy? No, you can say that the WAY I've been leading people is scummy, and this argument could be based on the notion of my not being able to be a town due to my wanting a policy lynch on gandalf that I retracted after knowing he's actually replacing out for not strategy reasons (he wasn't being a lurking scum) and due to my thinking that jelly jiggler could be linked to another person because of his unexplained vote. Did you know what could have been the explanation for jelly jiggler's vote, kvart? The rest of us didn't and there people were waiting for JJ to answer my question because we did not know what could have justified it. Kvart, you are raising my eyebrows. But, what do you have to say about all this. Am I a bad player?

[Tazaro]

My two vote retractions (gandalf and jelly jiggler) and pushiness, are you going to make cases against me out of those things, xvart? I know you suspect jelly jiggler for a reason too. But noob scum is becoming a lesser possibility for what jelly jiggler is in my mind. Mouse is believable, and I am seeing myself paying attention to the notion that not all players who are town have the same object identity as I do.

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double post: at least you CLAIMED you had a reason to suspect jelly jiggler as noob scum, xvart... IGMEOY

[Tazaro]

If I were scum, I could CLAIM to have reasons that genuinely raise my eyebrows for why a town person could be noob scum. Now, who has not made genuine claims of having their eyebrows raised at others? xvart? screl1? Where is screl1? We need content from him. I don't believe jelly jiggler is lieing about his explanation toward my question, and this makes his roleclaim of mouse much more believable. I propose a retreat from voting jelly jiggler. Though, my words can't move mountains.

[Tazaro]

What contributions lol?

[Tazaro]

Eh, let's give vezo time. Her azure and night thing was interesting. What can be made of those?

[Tazaro]

Ninja'd by Twomz. Yeah, I agree, let's have moar words from moar missing people.

[Tazaro]

Sorry, vezo is not a "her."

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@SC: I unvoted. I am now Not Voting

[Tazaro]

@SC: my unvote was at the top of post 341

[Tazaro]

I'm sorry, kvart, I was reading the between lines and wondering whether you would attack me; I was suspicious that you would formulate a case against me because you mentioned talking about me later. But you're not my only suspect, and you didn't pounce on what I said (screl is the one who's doing pouncing) about you which is good in my book. You're reasonableness is noted, and my opinion, if you can believe it, of kvart and screl is that their writing or tone reminds me of each other somehow. Anybody else feel that way?. And I made a bad assumption about JJ being buddies with screl based on his intention to vote for screl without explanation. I had suspicions of the mouse roleclaim because I was suspicious of JJ. But his explanation made sense; and the mouse claim is consequently something that is nothing wrong to believe.
Now for screl's post below. Here's something scum do: Hand of Suspicions. Seriously, it's not bussing JJ that I was doing, I even unvoted for him after he explained himself, and as far as I'm concerned, he IS the mouse, so screl why are you choosing now to say that I am the buddy of JJ?:

HOS: Tazaro

The only reason I am not currently voting for you is that I don't think you have managed to derail the bus on your buddy (JJ). However if that falls off you have my vote.

You're JJ/Tazaro idea is pulled out of a hat you mafia magician, you think this isn't suspicious? I really see the scumminess here. It's not unclear why I suspected JJ with my own reasons and why I unvoted. Look at the response that JJ gave about why he wanted to vote for screl, did you expect him to have a good explanation? I didn't think he would and guessed he might incriminate himself with a bad answer. But I said it was vital that he answer, I want people to explai themselves, and he didn't incriminate himself. How can you explain JJ/Tazaro scum pair?; you are not fooling me. This is quite a time to posit this pair, screl, know that my JJ vote was retracted by me after pushing for it. This was the opportunity for you to drum suspicion on me, I thought xvart would do that. But it's you, screl.

VOTE: screl1

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Double post: This has my utmost seal of suspicion. Deserves a vote confirmation.

confirm VOTE: screl1

. This is a mafia member. And an edit to the above post: "know that my JJ vote..." should be "NOW that my JJ vote."

[Tazaro]

You never answered M=W's question on post # 265.

I did 266 in response to 265.
Don't intend to triple post anymore. But I wanted to address this thing that was written by screl1. Screl1 and kvart, do you think your tones are similar to each other? It's weird because when I think of one I think of the other. But I only voted for one...

[Tazaro]

I'm an easy target; that's why I think a mafia member will target me.

1) I don't know about your alignment. I was suspicious of your posts because of...
...(2) your manner of posting reminds me of scum player in a game I played, a player called Leech. I may be using a false heuristic on this because I don't think you and screl are both mafia. Again, screl is pretty much scum in my eyes.
3) Reaction-fishing. I want more reactions from players who play as if they're dead. It's interesting when they speak up from the grave.

I'm a multiposter, man. I just feel like people might miss something. I'm a worrier. I had over 150 posts when I was a replacement in a newbie game and replaced in page 16 and the game lasted until around page 30. Serious amount of posting.

Persona interests me especially since I've seen the persona of scum, real clever scum. I am going to eat lunch in case you wonder why I'm not following up. These are good questions though. And no that's not buddying, screl.

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UK: I did a HoS when I was scum; it's to make you seem like you're poised to vote without actually voting, which means it has an element of caution. I don't see a reason for town to do HoS. And duh, scum will eventually jump on me. Screl has already done so.

I'm an easy target; that's why I think a mafia member will target me.

1)Do you think only scum target "easy targets"?

1) I don't know about your alignment.

2)What was the purpose of telling everyone to read me in isolation? What did you hope to achieve or what did you hope everyone else would see?

(2) your manner of posting reminds me of scum player in a game I played, a player called Leech.

3)You seem to think that scum only act a certain way which is certainly not the case.

Persona interests me especially since I've seen the persona of scum, real clever scum. I am going to eat lunch in case 4)you wonder why I'm not following up. These are good questions though. And no that's not buddying, screl.

Who was clever scum? Was it in your previous game here at MafiaScum? How were they clever and what do they do?

5) And again, it seems you recognize you said something that someone might say is buddying and immediately dismiss it.
You seem to have a habit of trying to dismiss phantom cases that may or may not even be made. Why is that?

......I don't understand Tazaro's unvote on JJer.

So you were just pushing him for a claim?

I understand his unvote; but I don't really understand his original vote. It seems he thought Jiggler was definite scum based on one question he asked screl. I suppose that's fine for a vote, but the tenacity behind it and rallying the troops to lynch/get him to claim does not seem right; especially after being so easily dismissed.

xvart.

1)Scum can target me as a convenient bull's eye at this part of the game; I mean, UK said I could be a mislynch, and why wouldn't scum take advantage of that?. Scum can make that lynch possible.

2) I was suspicious of you. And people should read the posts of those who are suspicious. I want people to pay attention to peoples' words.

3) If I see a scum act a certain way in one game, that way of acting definitely catches my attention in other games.

4) Leech was clever scum in Newbie 943. He had a certain tone and he used that to attack the arguments of the person who he had pointed at as scum. His plan also involved fakeclaiming a cop role if you want to know what his overarching grand plan was.

5) I want to address things before scum use it against me.

And yes I have a pushy personality. Sue me. I'm tenacious and have a rallying kind of spirit because I'm impatient and don't want my points to be tossed aside; I make them for a reason and I hope I make my thoughts clear.

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Double post:
@the public: Lynch screl1. Only scum can be that sarcastic. Look at his last post. You say 10 pages of crap could be generated from me. Sounds like you're paying quite a bit attention to the crap.

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@ tazaro who iz Kvart? Yeh I kno xvart, but Y Kvart?

@tazaro Y R U so up about shooting down argumentz taht hav knot happened against U, Just s33mz rong mahn.

Proper spelling of his name is noted. I want to address things before mafia use it against me. <<I already said that.

[Tazaro]

@PieMan. I have completed only one game. I have replaced in four games afterward. I have been a member of this site for less than a month and have only been mafia once. PieMan.
@xvart. I see your posting--Xvart wrote "how come you didn't call out Nobody Special, UncertainKitten, Twomz, PieMan, and UncertainKitten? Why is screl's HoS scummier than the ones listed?"
I don't remember them issuing HoSes; screl1's HoS though seems opportunistic against me along with his postering to vote but not yet; I see what screl1 is doing as making sense from a mafia perspective. I don't want to stick stuff on your wall, xvart. I thought I suggested in my post that your not pouncing on me was good in my book. I'm attacking screl1, not you. And I didn't say that the behavior that was seen before from Leech that is catching my eye in this game is ALWAYS scummy. But look how screl was tunneling on me. And using the JJ bussing idea when my JJ theory flopped. screl1 said he doesn't want to read 10 pages of more crap generated by me. How can a townie be so acerbic and he doesn't care. He smells blood from me and is planning to take a bite. Your vote is disheartening, xvart. But my suspiciousness is not a secret; I've been pushy and everyone sees a problem with my gameplay. I still think there are people who can believe me.
And UK, if you come back some time, are you turning on me? Vezo? I see screl1 as a threat. A major threat, and what is Twomz doing? Popped in but I don't remember what he said. People need to come in this thread and say stuff that moves of forward.

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I just replaced into my sixth game I've ever played not too long before this post I'm making now.
1) My scum game that I mentioned with Leech in it was a game in which I multiposted and people complained about my editting and I made cases against everyone in LyLo, but any cases I made against my scum buddy were flimsy: Newbie 943
2) Besides this game that I'm playing here, my other games are ongoing so I don't think I can talk about their content, but I multipost in those too except for the one I just started. But I will post them below:
Here they are:

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the one I've only made one post in so far: popularity mafia mini 1004

[Tazaro]

^ Oh, and I was a replacement in my newbie game. The only game that I posted in the post above that I did not replace into is the Ghostbusters Mafia game.