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^ Is that bothering anyone else or is it just me?Rules wrote:16) You may requestanvote count at any time in the thread or via PM. Please do not spam requests for them every other post
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You can be on my hit list.Haylen wrote:DeathRowKitty: I hate your avatar, can I be in your sig too
First thing's first: numbering with powers of 2 is AWESOME.BFF wrote:1. Please provide me with a sample of your town and scum metas.
2. Do you prefer town-hunting or scum-hunting?
4. Which of the following are scumtells: lurking, lying, being annoying, off-topic discussion, voting without immediately giving reasons?
8. Do you think you should out your town reads?
16. Are there any days or times of day we should not expect you to be posting on a regular basis?
1. There's a surprisingly good chance both of my metas are outdated. My town meta is pretty much all over the place to begin with though. Sometimes I'll pick someone and tunnel until that person is lynched. Sometimes I'll call half the players scum in one day. I'm not sure I can pick a game that would really encapsulate my town meta. As for my scum meta, well, why would I want to give you that?
2. Town-hunting >>>>> scum-hunting. It's just easier. I tend to scumhunt though.
4. None of those are by themselves unless committed by KittyMo. Speaking of which,vote: KittyMo. She knows why.
8. Outing town reads has a worse rep than it deserves. I tend only to out controversial town reads though (people in more danger of lynch than of NK).
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Noooooo, my vote didn't count!
VOTE: KittyMo
I know what you're all thinking: why am I voting KittyMo if Faraday is more likely to be scum? Well, maybe you're not all thinking that, but that's not my problem.
I wasn't going to ignore my BFF :SFaraday wrote:DRK do you think SFG's questions drew discussion away from the game? Isn't that what you objected to on the top of the page. I don't see why you'd bother answering them if you think that's the case, or maybe I'm missing something here isn't what SFG did basically a RQS (ugh at the terms )-
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Oh, hey, I see my name a lot. People must love me!
First off, if you think I softclaimed, you're reading way too much into something. (Well, I did softclaim something, but it has nothing to do with my role or alignment.) As for answering SFG's questions, I quote something I said in another game where I took a little heat for something similar. First though, the situation was as follows: The Inquisition announced early on that he would start the game by asking questions. I said I would answer, but that he'd also earned my random vote.Ythill wrote:For example, spammy DRK discrediting Neto about RQS and then answeringKMSFG thoroughly without complaint looks bad. Plus obv softclaims are obv.
Plus, I wasn't going to give SFG a hard time over something like that. We're BFFs. <3Me, in another game wrote:
If there are questions out there being asked, I won't ignore them. That's just anti-town. Doesn't mean I plan on giving up my "random" vote (which isn't exactly random now), especially since the only other game I've had with questions early on (Vi started off with a survey) didn't quite get off to a fast start.MT wrote:I am confused as to why someone would wish to vote for a person who suggested an idea and also agree to doing the idea.I would agree to doing the idea to some extent.
See earlier in this post.Neto wrote:DeathRowKitty: Why did you proceed to answer the questions and include a buddying message to SFG?
Why did you find it necessary to point out that you thought he outed himself as a PR? Wouldn't that be something you'd want to keep to yourself? Also, obligatory "no u" comment in regards to your random vote.Reckoner wrote:No. Clearly there WASN'T a night start since there was no nightkill. If anything, Ythill just outed himself as a PR.
Why so hasty?Faraday wrote:unvote Vote DRK
can we wrap day 1 up now?
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So, I started scumhunting and ended up townhunting instead. When I was done, I just kind of picked one of the scummier remaining players. VOTE: Reckoner. Hello SK.
Yeah, yeah, I know this post isn't all I made it sound like it would be, but I actually have a few decent reads now.
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It's just like in the game I linked. Answering questions in general shouldn't hurt, but they don't start a game off. That's why I also random voted.-
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I know I haven't been participating....at all basically. I'm ready to change that now. Don't expect any big cases from me (blame chat mafia), but I'm ready to start playing a bit more like I should be.
I'm no longer particularly happy with my Reckoner vote.Unvote. That's not to say I've accepted him as town, but I'm leaning more that way than when I voted him.
This post makes me willing to vote Dram.Vote: Dramonic
I'm actually pretty sure I know TL's role. Given what I know, his suspicion of me isn't unreasonable. It also makes me more suspicious of him though. (This will make A LOT more sense later on. For now, just accept it.)
Neto-scum definitely wouldn't surprise me. Something about him has been rubbing me the wrong way, but I can't quite place what. I probably won't be voting him until I figure that out.
Cuttlefish is a bit of a curveball for me atm. Well, he's more of a screwball, but we're talking about my read, not his personality. He was one of the players I didn't get much of a read on the first time I collected reads and I haven't done much reading since then tbh. IGMEOY Nik and it's not just for your stunningly good looks (The screwball thing was said with the utmost love >_>)
I have some form of a town read on most players not mentioned yet in this post. The biggest wild card of those players is Faraday, who's been a bit odd so far to say the least.-
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ITT, Dram needs to stop rolling a die to choose his suspects. He hit 2 obv-town out of 3 suspects.
I'm not against a mass name claim.
1) Unless you find yourself to be obv-town, this is a moot point.Reckoner wrote:1) Unvotes me...but makes sure to leave the door open to revote me if necessary with his "well I'm not convinced he's town" disclaimer.
2) Lays down a vote on dramonic, which isn't inherently scummy because dram is active lurking pretty hardcore...but DRK didn't VOTE for him because he was active lurking, he votes for him based off of some random one-off post and doesn't explain what he finds scummy about it WHAT.SO.EVER. It just reeks of scum pushing a case on a lurker and digging up awful
3) Softclaims some kind of role for TL and attempts to stop the current wagon?
4) Tosses suspicion Neto's way and doesn't actually provide any support. Just goes "something rubs me the wrong way lol see how im preparing myself to jump on that wagon?"
2) Meh, I was hoping to get away without explaining what I found scummy about that post. It was just something about the wording. It sounded like his comment was very forced, as if he was trying to hard to make a town-sounding post about it. That + his not posting content = enough for a vote
3) I'm not sure which wagon it is you think I was trying to stop. In fact, I'm pretty sure I put a vote on the largest wagon (or the one that was most popular at the time, at the very least).
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@Reck
1) I forgot the clause that pro-town players must know every player's alignment at all times. My apologies.
2) The whole thing sounded forced, but I don't think that's what you meant to ask. As for the arbitrary thing, well, that's why I avoided explaining it in the first place
3) I'm not seeing it at all. I have no idea what part of my post you think was supposed to derail TL's wagon.
4) See #1
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I agree with the people who have said scumhunting using role names is useless. Everyone's role name seems to be something the mod has a positive view of. I really doubt he took the three he liked least and made them scum.TL wrote:I assume DRK has the same flavor, sort of, inherhis pm
I wouldn't be completely opposed to a TL lynch. It's not one of my top few choices right now and I'd just be voting him purely on the basis of him being a neighbor. I don't find him particularly scummy aside from that.
The opposition to the Dram wagon is really starting to bug me to be honest. I might need to reconsider my read on him. In fact, there's a decent chance my vote will move from him before I go V/LA tomorrow.
Other than that, obv-town keep obv-towning and questionable players continue to be questionable. I'm going to reread and see if I find anything new.-
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The opposition that has been there has been very loud. If Dram's scum, either there are townies out there that legitimately think he's town or there are two scum screaming their heads off to stop the wagon. Either way, there would be something odd going on if Dram were scum.Faraday wrote:why is the opposition bugging you? I think the main opposition has been reck and to a lesser extend myself.
this is 2 players who one you think has 'been a bit odd to say the least' (I don't think I have ftr, my play's been quite straightforward I think) and the other is someone you don't really have any read on.-
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Well, I didn't post last night because [insert excuse here]. Any post I made last night would have been terrible.
I'm leaving soon, but there's something I want to point out quickly:
^ FTFYTL wrote:Also Icouldn'tdidn't talk to DRK pre-game.
We could talk pre-game. He just never responded to me.
Other than that, I agree with UK-town (and have since page 1).
Unvoteuntil I get back. I'm not actually sure if I was voting, but I'd rather not have my vote fixed for the next 5 days if I was.-
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I said something and he didn't respond. Not sure how difficult you think it is to determine the truth here.Neto wrote:I'm also not sure what I think about the difference between DRK claiming that they could talk pre-game but TL didn't respond vs. TL's statement that they couldn't talk pre-game. I have no idea why one of them would lie about this, but it does puzzle me.
I reread TL's posts. I called him town last night on the grounds of "zomg scum would never want to be lynched." I changed my mind. He's trying too hard. Consider this an "I'd vote TL now if I weren't so goddamn lazy that I refuse to look for a votecount."
Other than that, two comments:
1) So many people are obv-town right now that one or two people reading closely is probably all we need to break this open. That person will not be me right now.
2) If this game gets past night 2 and I'm still too messed up to play properly, I'll replace out. I've done enough damage to this game as it is.-
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I think you made the wrong analogy, personally. I could probably sit down and watch paint dry for several hours (well, if not for the paint fumes maybe). Sure, not much *seems* to be happening, but, deep down, I'd know that paint was drying. Heck, I'd probably be the idiot that sits there and checks every few minutes and ends up with paint all over himself. Then, in one final climactic moment, it would all be over. The paint dries.
The analogy you should have made was grass growing. Sure, you could sit there and examine the grass for a while, but it's just grass. Every blade of grass, to a large extent, looks the same as every other blade of grass. You can watch it for 3 hours, 4 hours, 5 hours, but it's not changing. Sure, they *say* it's growing, but would you really know if it doesn't? Take my advice: check on the grass for a few minutes, go watch the paint dry, and then come back. You'll thank me for it. Maybe not today and maybe not tomorrow, but eventually. Maybe once the grass has grown.-
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Stuff to say to each player. At least one of them means something useful. A few of you may know which.
Cuttlefish: Stop making me forget. Also, *cuddle*
DeathRowKitty: Why are you in every game I am? Stop stalking me, creep.
dramonic: You're voting me. I don't like you.
Faraday: ur 1 weerd dood
Haylen: Lurk moar.
KittyMo: I'm town.
Netopalis: You read about the same to me as Haylen. Take that as you wish.
SFG: You're annoying, but I still <3 you. Also, you're obv-town.
xRECKONERx: You're voting me. I don't like you.
Ythill: Rock on, bro.
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KittyMo wrote:I mean that [DRK]'s more confirmed town than any night action could say.
ITT, Reckoner practices selective reading.Reckoner wrote:I drastically disagree that Kitty is scum [...] ALL I KNOW IS WE NEED TO LYNCH DRK MMKAY?
Also,V/LA August 22 - August 25for college-related things. The LA should be more near the beginning of that and the V near the end. I'll probably have less access than usual from the 26th through the 29, but not as noticeably.-
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RECKONER, STOP BEING BLIND DAMMIT
JUST BECAUSE YOU POST SOMETHING IN ALL CAPS DOESN'T MAKE IT TRUE. IT JUST MAKES IT SOUND OBNOXIOUS AND IT MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A BIT IDIOT WHEN YOU'RE WRONG
OH LOL DRK MUST BE SCUM BECAUSE HE'S BARELY TRYING. YEAH, THAT'S THE ONLY F'N REASON SOMEONE DOESN'T PLAY HARD IN MAFIA. REAL LIFE? LOLWUT.
GO TUNNEL ON SOMEONE ELSE. YOU'RE BARKING UP THE WRONG TREE AND I'M JUST WAITING FOR THE SQUIRRELS TO START THROWING ACORNS AT YOU
ALSO, THIS IS PROBABLY MY LAST POST UNTIL FRIDAY NIGHT. HAVE FUN WITHOUT ME. DON'T GET HIT BY TOO MANY FLYING ACORNS.-
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I'm making assumptions because I'm 100% sure I know why she called me town. It was completely expected and the action of calling me town on her part is completely null. If you want to not believe that I'm town, that's fine, but I guarantee you, and SFG, Nik, and/or Haylen might be able to back me up on this, that KittyMo's calling me town wasn't a slip and isn't a scum tell.
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They were just brief personal notes of what I remembered from day 1 and are hardly useful for actual scumhunting. Since you askedso nicely, I'll post them anyway for your enjoyment or something:
"Player list for my reference:
Cuttlefish
DeathRowKitty
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Haylen
KittyMo
Netopalis
SFG
TheLonging
UncertainKitten
xRECKONERx
Ythill
TL already died and flipped town. I suppose that wasn't particularly unexpected. I probably shouldn't have voted him, but oh well, it got the day over with. Unfortunately, it also makes me a likely mislynch target for tomorrow, especially with players who are assuming there has to be one scum neighbor.
I've been assuming KittyMo and UncertainKitten were town since page 1. I can't be sure I was justified in getting those reads so early, but at least it made me feel like I was doing something. Both reads seem like they were probably right, but I'm still not 100% on UK.
I was assuming SFG was town for most of the day (hopefully for game-related reasons), but I'll admit some of her posts were a bit odd. I still want to call her town though.
I had reservations about Faraday early, but I'm really thinking it was just his playstyle. I'd guess he's town.
Eliminating those players from my list (and myself, since I'm town), that leaves me with:
Cuttlefish
dramonic
Haylen
Netopalis
xRECKONERx
Ythill
Ythill was obv-town for most of the day, but something about him strikes me as being off. I'll definitely need a reread at some point to say anything more conclusive about him.
Reckoner was my most consistent scum read day 1. I could be skewed by the fact that his play is so...erratic I guess, but something definitely seems way off with him. If I decide to stop being lazy, I may even make a case on him day 2. Right now, he's my strongest scum read.
I voted dramonic early on, but my opinion of him has improved since. I'd put him somewhere between neutral and town.
If I were to go completely on gut, Cuttlefish would be my next call for scum. I have no idea why and I don't even remember any of his posts. I really need to start reading more closely.
Haylen and Netopalis are pretty big toss-ups for me right now. I've been scum in both games I've been in with Haylen, so I've never had to read her. I did meta her once though. I might try to apply that here and see what happens. I've been flip-flopping back and forth with Neto, which is also why I haven't really mentioned him much. Like Ythill, I think a reread is in order before I really make a judgment on him.
From what I've read so far, I have a gut feeling this game will be obvious upon reread. It almost seems like there's a puzzle and all the pieces are there to be put together if I read well enough. I have a feeling the scum are obvious this game.
I have until Thursday to reread and try to break this game open. If I don't pick up my game day 2, I probably won't live to see another night."-
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I love your ridiculous tunneling. It's cute....almost.
Not having a read on 3 people doesn't mean anything. Do you have a read on everyone? Do you think you have acorrectread on everyone? If I die and flip scum, feel free to hunt in the Ythayleto pool. I'm not scum though, so that doesn't really mean anything.-
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Damn it, Ythill, I'm allowed to write in whatever the hell style I want. If I choose to write my notesYthill wrote:By bad I mean...
To rephrase, they do not look like notes written for one's own reference but, rather, a poor job of faking the same. Complete sentences? Self-referencing? Predicting your own lynch? Magically reaching conclusions that are populist at the time of posting? Seriously?I wrote:DRK's "notes" post looks very contrived to me.
Can't really ignore that. Sorry.tomyself in f'n complete sentences, that's my own choice. It feels nice to talk to myself, tyvm.
As for reaching the same conclusions....well, honestly, I don't actually know who suspects who any more except at a very basic level. Not paying attention to the thread is tech. So, yeah, whatever.-
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So basically you're voting me because you think my writing style sounds fake.
I just moved into college last week (new laptop and such), so I only have one other sample of myself writing in that style. It's personal and I'm not posting it.
I'm not sure what about my writing style seems so off to you. I write notes like that as if I'm someone else reading them. I make sure everything is nice and readable and explain things I already know, just in case I don't. It's kind of like how I talk to myself. I don't just make comments to myself or make occasional separate statements. I have entire one-sided conversations with myself to the extent that it sometimes turns into a lecture.
Fake sounding or not, that's how I write. Do you have a good reason to believe that's not how I write and that it was fake, especially considering you seemingly haven't found me scummy until now?-
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WHAT THE HELL ABOUT IT DO YOU NOT THINK IS JUST MY WRITING STYLE?!?!?! YES, I WAS TELLING MYSELF THE PLAYER LIST WAS FOR MY REFERENCE. IS THAT ANY LESS LIKELY THAN ME TYPING IT OUT NOW AND ACCIDENTALLY INCLUDING THAT?!?!?! HONESTLY, HOW F'N STUPID DO YOU THINK I AM? OH LOLZ I THINK I'LL PRETEND I WROTE NOTES DOWN NIGHT 1 AND MAKE THEM SOUND LIKE I'M WRITING THEM FOR SOMEONE ELSE SO IT LOOKS STUPID. GOD DAMN IT YTHILL, IF YOU TRY TO PIN THAT TO ANYTHING BUT STYLE, I'M GOING TO LOSE A LOT OF FAITH IN EITHER YOUR SCUMHUNTING OR IN THE FACT THAT YOU'RE TOWN.Ythill wrote:So you mention that the player list is for your reference? In case you don't know that? I'm not going to let you strawman this down to a style argument. That post was obv-scum due to several factors, which I already mentioned.-
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I CHALLENGE YOU TO FIND ONE OPINION I EXPRESSED IN MY POST THAT CONTRADICTS MY END OF DAY 1 STANCES OR I'M CALLING FUCKING SHENANIGANSYthill wrote: the simple fact that he claims to have written it N1 and yet manages to come to current, middle of D2 populist opinions is enough reason to call shenanigans.-
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