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I, [recruit's name], do solemnly swear by [recruit's deity of choice] to uphold the Laws and Ordinances of the city of Ankh-Morpork, serve the public trust, and defend the subjects of His/Her [delete whichever is inappropriate] Majesty [name of reigning monarch] without fear, favour, or thought of personal safety; to pursue evil-doers and protect the innocent, laying down my life if necessary in the cause of said duty, so help me [aforesaid deity]. Gods Save the King/Queen [delete which is inappropriate].Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!-
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No no no no.
Do not try to outguess the mod without proper theories/empirical proof. Trust me on this one, trying to outguess the mod with so little information leads to disaster.
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Instead of "Put someone to L-1 and then let them claim and move on to someone else.". It's "Put someone to L-1 and wait for people to react then hammer unless he's a PR if he is then we move on to someone else."
@jimfinn: Double vote is very powerful as the game drags on. A DV on scum is frowned upon(easy LyLo win etc.).
I do think that our DV's PR is not indicative of alignment though since he says he loses it tommorow(and if he's lying about that, it's easy to catch so w/e.).Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!-
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Detrius sounds evil.
Who the hell is Nobbs?
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Mysterio (6): KHG, Tasky, VasudeVa, Narsis, jimfinn, FakeGod
Narsis (2): Plum, Budja
jimfinn (1): Chronopie
Tasky (1): TheButtonmen
FakeGod (1): Thor665
Not Voting (1): Mysterio
With 12 alive, 7 votes are needed to lynch.
If you want to look up the flavour, look here.Last edited by molestargazer on Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!-
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I was voting for you, and now Narsis, in order to gather information about your alignment. Some pressure is needed to properly squeeze out a player's alignment, and I've been abusing my vote for that purpose. Bandwagoning is a legitimate strategy D1 as it is a good way to gather information. There is a way to differentiate scum-bandwagoning from Town-wagoning but that's a story for another day~
I did find you slightly suspicious for being anti-town with the claims and am theorizing of the PR mechanic that is unique to this game. Looking back now, you are now my top Town read.
Query: Do you have any idea why you were chosen for your power? Any other information that you think will be helpful would be awesome.
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Non-game but flavor related questions: Is this City Watch thing a good read? What's so good about it? *looking for stuff to read*Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!-
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70% sure this guy's scum.KHG wrote:
I'd have to guess it was random (or semi-random), considering there was no night zero and no actions that could have taken place.VasudeVa wrote:Query: Do you have any idea why you were chosen for your power?
I'd like to hear Narsis' response before voting for him. I will UNVOTE: Mysterio for now.
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If this doesn't sound 'connection-y', I don't know what does. Unwillingness to vote hop on a wagon that's building up on a scummy player who's not yet in any danger is a good tell.KHG wrote:I'd like to hear Narsis' response before voting for him. I will UNVOTE: Mysterio for now.Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!-
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Also, what's a good first book to introduce me to Discworld?
If you want the City Watch ones (my favourites, evidently), you'll probably want to go for Guards! Guards!. The first one in the City Watch series, introduces you to the main characters, etc. If you want other discword, I have no idea, not read many of them.Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!-
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I'm not entirely sure I can say, since I want to catch scummy bandwagoning in its purest undiluted form.
And I haven't seen much, yet. But hey, put some pressure on me if you think I'm suspicious.
@KHG: Was it L-2? Man, I rely on these vote counts too much.
Why didn't you put him at L-2? (IMO, L-3 is a threat but squeezing out info happens best the closer to lynch ).
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I am very much against a Mysterio lynch. He's obviously Town based from his reaction to the bandwagon(Explanations come when needed.). Anyone still voting for him should be ashamed of themselves.
Plum seems like Plumscum. She is very vocal about her dislike about rolling scum. When people get a role they don't like, they tend to lurk/post fluff which isexactlywhat she is doing. Plus I've seen her as scum before~
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EBWOP: @KHG: Aside from 'wanting to hear from him'. Even with your vote, He'd still be alive and we WILL hear from him unless he gets a coordinated scum speedlynch which is an awesome scum-tactic which all scum should totally do when I'm Town.Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!-
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Also, triple post: What is the problem with saying that your vote is a pressure vote? Unwillingness to lynch aside, that is STILL one vote closer to lynch and your arguments that it 'weakens the vote' make little sense to me.Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!-
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Quote #1: Sudden realization of a meta read. Anything wrong with that?
Quote #2: Suspicion of a player who expresses interest in a wagon but doesn't act on it and instead votes a bigger wagon.
Quote #3: I don't even know what's that doing there. I AM voting for Narsis and I DO suspect him as scum.
What are you trying to achieve?
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Actually. WOAH BACK THE FUC UP.
I totally missed something
AHA. This is extremely suspicious. He expresses interest in the Narsis wagon and doesn't vote. I pressure him by calling him "70% scum". He tells me that he isn't voting for Narsis because voting Narsis puts Narsis at L-2.KHG 217 wrote:Not yet in any danger is hyperbole. My vote would be L-2. It's perfectly reasonable to want to hear someone's responses to the questions asked before voting for them as opposed to hopping on their wagon.
He THEN VOTES Mysterio who has a larger wagon behind him.
I call that the scum team is:
{Narsis, KHG, Plum}.
That was an easy game. Thanks for playing everyone~Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!-
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@jim: What odd voting habits? I've been on every major wagon on this game, sometimes putting it damn near close a lynch. It's appropriately consistent. Why is it odd? Why are you calling it odd? Call me out on being a bandwagoner and I'll point you to my ISO where I defend my bandwagoning.
#225 is a collection of my accusations or attacks if you will. Which is why I said it's a horribad case. Attacks without votes could mean anything. I find its an awesome way to... *GASP* gather information.
@KHG: Fair enough. See: Last sentence of the above.Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!-
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Plum seems to have missed my #228/#230. Let me clarify on that.
KHG#217#204(mind the correction) was my main case there because I thought I caught something big. Like, D1 scum-lynch big. I thought that in one post, he said that he avoided voting for Narsis because it puts Narsis on L-2. Then I saw 'Unvote: Mysterio' which I thought was him voting for Mysterio(Because, in general, unvotes are supposed to be just Unvote. Not Unvote: Name.)
Pardon the mistakes.
Also, I have seen Plum play scum in Greek Mythology and also slightly in Stars Aligned II where I replaced in for a short stint and then replaced out(because my replacee came back). I didn't really last long in either game, but I found that she really dislikes playing scum and it was a point to be made.
Do you think I've not been scumhunting while pressuring (with votes and with attacks) at the same time? I think that qualifies as scumhunting. I've been very vocal about using wagons to gather information about a person's alignment(Scumhunting!). What makes you think that I'm using wagoning/pressure votes as a method to not scumhunt?Plum #237 wrote: I find that not doing that and choosing instead to play around with pressuring and wagons and excuses disguises or attempts to excuse a lack of scumhunting.
Is that not what a majority lynch essentially is? ie. Multiple people pointing their guns on someone's head.Plum wrote:Wait, so you want Narsis to have a gun to his head but you excuse your vote by saying that you're not the one holding a gun to his head? Uh.Last edited by molestargazer on Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!-
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Failtags. Mod, I have been a bad person and I did not preview. Please fix my carelessness.
The mod is kind. It's fixed.Last edited by molestargazer on Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!-
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'VV's bandwagoning' is a very lazy case. Unless you people can specify why my bandwagonning is bad or suspicious, that won't go anywhere.
I redact my attack on Plum for now. Although, your last post was Aug. 13 before you started posting again and previous experience with her states that lurky Plum = Plum scum. Context wise, her defense fits.
My main issue on Narsis is because his #205 is suspicious. Although, I did vote him way before that because I was looking for a better non-Mysterio wagon and he seemed like a cool guy to vote.
Everyone still voting for Mysterio should be ashamed of themselves.
Silly people wasting their votes/not voting should go and do something about that, yeah?Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!-
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Whoever this Vimes person is probably should claim his power. It looks like this is the games mechanic. All VTs then random townies get power roles.
Does the Charisntmha thingy D1 have anything to do with double voting? Any theories on what drunkenness does?Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!-
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I was actually hoping that there were some hints as to why he was chosen in the first place. At any rate, he wasn't lying.
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I liked Narsis' response too.
@Button: Why don't you adress my points before you actually jump on me and go 'OMG I FOUND A WIKI-SCUMTELL LOLX'.?
@FakeGod: Scum already have all the information they need, as an informed minority, to win the game. Town doesn't. ANY information Town gets helps Town better in the long run.
I also liked Narsis' responses. Budja is definitely Town.Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!-
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implying wagon accusation wiki tell + rolefishing wiki tell.TheButtonmen wrote:Vote: VV
For all the same reasons as yesterday and the recent role fishing.
Not really sure if I can call it rolefishing though, it's more a long the lines of role harpooning or perhaps role torpedoing.Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!-
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@FakeGod: You are being terribly closeminded. Knowing who's what organizes Town. An organized Town is a Town to fear.
Wikitells are terribly outdated and extremely lazy.
@Button: Hmm.. I seem to have mixed up my games. Disregard that too.Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!-
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Same goes to you, apparently. Although you're probably Town. Chrono is too.Narsis wrote:
if you are the antithesis of a good townie then what is the point of keeping you around? wouldn't it be better to kill you now then have you causing trouble later?Chronopie wrote:Just saying Rolefishing is a Scum tell, doesn't help. As afaict it isn't much of one.
I know that I'm probably the antithesis of a good townie. And I know that I tend to Rolefish (sometimes inadvertently), ALOT. Alignment independent. Null tell.Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!-
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Lazy attacks beget lazy defense.
That's a theory. It looks like it, atm. I'm waiting on our Vimes to confirm.
Not necessarily. MCs are never good and are usually done at LyLo. Cop claims with a doctor in an open setup are good. Hider claims are good. Miller claims are good. Etc.
@Narsis: Faulty logic. Scum are already organized from the getgo because they know who their buddies are.Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!-
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Implies does not necessarily mean that it's already true. It's only evidence that it might be true. Someone claiming that it IS true also adds evidence to it's truthyness. Mysterio did that but died before he had the chance to explain. Now, I'm waiting on our Vimes to explain it and probably confirm it's truthyliciousness.
Lol, no one's listening to ButtonMen. Allow me to taunt you while you shamelessly call for my wagon. Ha. Ha. Ha.
Also, here's a wiki-tell.
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I am dissappoint that no one is listening to me on ButtonMen. I also like the fact that he has been posting elsewhere whilst ignoring my attack on him. Yum yum Scum. Still, FG is scum with him so w/e.Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!-
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I too am waiting on the V/LA's to comment. Especially Tasky. Helloooo tasky.
Tasky will be gone until the 29th (Sunday), so, you're wasting your breath a little there.Last edited by molestargazer on Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:10 am, edited 1 time in total.Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!-
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Reposting for possible importance in the near future.Chronopie (4): Narsis, Thor665, Plum, Budja
FakeGod (3): VasudeVa, jimfinn, Chronopie
VasudeVa (2): TheButtonmen, FakeGod
Also, hail Tasky's back. Quickly, take a stance or be lynched with extreme prejudice.Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!-
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I am Vimes. Breadcrumbs here.
I received a oneshot Daycop investigation applicable only for this day. I will lose it and turn back to my original role once I use it. I will also lose it if I did not use it. It seems to be random, so w/e. Nothing even denotes who will receive a power tommorow.Me, ISO 28 wrote:'VV's bandwagoning' is a very lazy case. Unless you people can specify why my bandwagonning is bad or suspicious, that won't go anywhere.
Iredact my attack on Plum for now. Although, your last post was Aug. 13 before you started posting again and previous experience with her states that lurky Plum = Plum scum. Context wise, her defense fits.
My main issue on Narsis is because his #205 is suspicious. Although, I did vote him way before that because I was looking for a better non-Mysterio wagon and he seemed like a cool guy to vote.
Everyone still voting for Mysterio should be ashamed of themselves.
Silly people wasting their votes/not voting should go and do something about that, yeah?
When I got the Daycop, I had the idea to act as scummy as possible to lure scum to vote for me. Then, I'd daycop their asses and lynch them.
FakeGod is obvscum. I do not even want to waste my investigation on him.
I will be investigating Chronopie. I have already sent it. If he's innocent, we lynch FakeGod then Tasky. If he's scum, we lynch Chronopie then FakeGod.
People better start goddamn unvoting until I receive my investigation results.
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A). Lol.
B.) Easy. Scum like to vote lynchbait. I act like lynchbait, scum vote for me.
C.) Oh that's easy. I haven't used it yet. I was bluffing so that people will unvote. HAH. Nice reaction btw.
D.) Both of you jumped at me when I started 'role-harpooning'. He jumped second.
E.) You are.
F.) No idea. But that's what I got. Please, tell your scumbuddies to counterclaim me so that we can get two scum.
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