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@Tasky, "commented early, voted later" => "Narsis commented early on the wagon, but didn't vote (or give a indication fo voting) until a wagon had built up".
@KHG, you did a very quick switch from Mysterio to Narsis. I'd like to know why (i.e your reads on these people)?
The whole "defend Narsis" post by Tasky was odd but on the whole I don't think it was scummy, just weak.
I like Plum's quoting of KHG though. Added to lynch-list-
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@KHG, Whether you are voting for him or not in a technicality. I want to know why are you interested in voting for Narsis rather than Mysterio who you looked quite happy to vote just a post earlier.
(i.e Why did you change your focus to Narsis?)
^ Agreed.Thor wrote: I am confused by the vitriol and scope of Tasky's attack - but suspect that if either Tasky/Narsis are scum then it's likely that only one of them is since I don't think scumTasky would make a post like that for scumbuddyNarsis since if we lynch Narsis and he flips scum that leaves Tasky in an awkward situation tomorrow.
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^ Explain this. Explain why you showed an interest in voting for Narsis. (and give me a proper answer this time.)KHG wrote:I'd like to hear Narsis' response before voting for him. I will UNVOTE: Mysterio for now.
VOTE COUNT
Narsis (5): Plum, Budja, VasudeVa, Thor665, jimfinn
Mysterio (3): Tasky, Narsis, FakeGod
jimfinn (1): Chronopie
VasudeVa (1): TheButtonmen
Not Voting (2): Mysterio, KHG
With 12 alive, 7 votes are needed to lynch.Last edited by molestargazer on Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.-
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KHG, you kept dancing around the point of my question rather than answering it. (I asked three times).
I'm happy to switch to this wagon.
unvote, vote KHG
(Still think Narsis is scum.)
I'd like Chronopie to speak up a bit too rather than just latch to popular wagons/reads.
Preview: Ironic, KHG, since that is where you are getting a lot of your scumpoints.-
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No, you expressed interest in joining the Narsis wagon after been pretty strongly fixated with Mysterio. You didn't mention any arguments that had convinced you.KHG wrote: I said I would consider voting for Narsis based off the previous explanations given. That was all I said, and I never moved past that point on Narsis.
Whenever I tried to ask me about it you focused on relatively unimportant aspect of my post while missing the direct point, "what had convinced you to change your stance".
You still have only vaguely giving me an idea of why.-
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Who? Share your reads.jim wrote:I think there are many scummy players; too many for them all to be scum. Narsis is certainly one of the scummier players, but I won't say with confidence that he is.
Re. Fakegod, His push on VV felt wrong, too strong for his playstyle.
He was already my #2, guilty of the same things as Narsis (case strengthened with Mysterio's flip) and Narsis lost a few scum points.-
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Chrono is a useless lurker.
Fakegod is scummier from his actions towards Mysterio (hop only after wagon developed steam) and VV (strangely passionate attack is at odds with earlier behaviour. I get the feeling he was seeking a target to vote.). Plum's point about his attitude to the KHG wagon is ok too.
So Fakegod > Chronopie.-
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I assumed you were talking about Tasky here. I'm all for him posting ASAP when he gets back but their are better suspects.Plum wrote:No one touched my question about who besides Chrono made EXTREMELY suspect votes on yesterday's KHG wagon. Because. I think it could be the antidote to the KHG mishaps yesterday. That is. A wagon which we can all pile onto real fast but this time actually net scum with it. ANY BITES, OR DOES NO ONE LIKE COOKIES AROUND HERE?
He was slipping under my radar too . Quite a strong contender for the lynch with Chrono.Plum wrote:Narsis takes potshots and I wonder whether that wagon on him yesterday wasn't actually a doubleplus good idea.
@Plum, what do you think of Thor's #403.
VOTE COUNT
Chronopie (4): Narsis, Thor665, Plum, Budja
FakeGod (3): VasudeVa, jimfinn, Chronopie
VasudeVa (2): TheButtonmen, FakeGod
Not Voting (1): Tasky
With 10 alive, 6 votes are needed to lynch.Last edited by molestargazer on Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.-
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4 scum is a mini is extremely unlikely. We just got lucky with the investigation/no-kill.
@TBM, top suspects?
@VV, I went through that line of thought too re. daytalk/gambit. There are enough factors to stop me voting Chrono, but not enough to label him obv-town.
jimfinn reads newb and has no original thought. I haven't got much of a scumread on Button, elimination pegs him as possible scum, but his actions are null to me.-
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Note here that I am semi V/LA til Sunday thanks to exams.
Noted. -M
I agree FG isn't confirmed, but he isn't scum for getting the power either. (No, I'm not calling him town but I'd still rather lynch jim or Button. Those players have given me less reason to be uncertain)
EDWOP for jim's post.
UNVOTE: VOTE: Button-
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Your VV vendetta is quite silly.
I chose Button over jimfinn after jim's Fakegod support (he doesn't strike me as a buser and FG is one of the biggest counter options to Button). Fairly weak but I see little difference between them in scum-level.
As I have already said jim + Button are the lynches I will support today. This is heavily due to elimination of one from or another and both their uselessness (jim sheeps, Button tunnels). Yeah, anti-town != scummy but I'm IMO the chance at least one is scum is quite high.
@Thor, both Button and FG have been anti-town/anti-scum. Any particular reason you support a FG lynch over Button?-
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I'm not convinced of you case regardless of your alignment.
I find your reasoning flawed, I am much more inclined to see VV's guilty on Tasky as a pro-town action rather than a bus.
Occum's razor and I've had a town read on him for a while anyway.
You are tunneling.
@Thor, read-yes, comprehended-no.
I think jim/Button is unlikely now. jim/FakeGod is possible.
Change of mind, ignore my last post save that^.
UNVOTE: VOTE: jimfinn
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unvote, vote FG
Vote + power use show strong survival instinct.
VOTE COUNT
TheButtonmen (3): Narsis, Chronopie, FakeGod
FakeGod (2): VasudeVa, Budja
Budja (1): Plum
Not Voting (3): TheButtonmen, jimfinn, Thor665
With 9 alive, 5 is needed to lynch.
Deadline is Friday 17th.Last edited by molestargazer on Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:37 am, edited 1 time in total.-
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@Thor, posts like this are why jimfinn is suss ^. He's a big sheep.
(but FG is proving to be a better lynch.)
@FG, your use of the word confirm is wrong. The mod show that powers are being given out to players. We don't know the criteria or even if the mod is the one doing it. All we know is getting a power mean you get a power, no more.-
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^ The problem is the more days that pass, the stronger a confirmed-town player is.
I must admit that my reads are a bit all over the place ATM. VV's point re. Tasky last attack hits me with more uncertainty.
UNVOTE: VOTE: jimfinn, this is my last switch. If FG or Button were scum I had jim pegged as the partner.
@Plum, I don't blame you. I've been distracted from this game recently and my play has suffered.-
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..and to finish off.
Captain Carrot, neighbour with Thor.
My power for today is a lie-detection which I can use for alignment purposes (hence the quoted statement). I haven't used it yet, but it has made me uncertain something else.
What is the chance that two "day-investigative" powers are chosen.
Also, how does "Drunkenness" link with investigation? All other powers link someway to their ability, but Vimes was always weaker when drunk.
I (shock) agree with Button. I think VV is scum.
I've sent in my lie-detect on a player I would guess as third scum in the above situation.-
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The thing which is getting to me is the scum's choice of nightkill.
I'm pretty sure Thor is town and Plum fitted perfectly into my scum-team theory.
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I also think Chronopie is town. Considering Thor and I bring little, if any extra power to the town and Narsis flipped PR.
So:
TheButtonmen
VasudeVa
FakeGod
with Thor as a outside chance.
Considering VV/TBM have been on each others throats for most of the game, (I cannot believe VV would bus Tasky and Button),
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@Thor, it would have fit my theory perfectly. Also, the fact that players like Narsis are dying made me think someone on "town" side of the scale was really scum.
Right now my bet is heavily on VV/Fakegod as the scumteam.
I may have been dead wrong with my guess of Plum but drunkeness = daycop doesn't make sense to me like the other powers. I wouldn't mind other comments on this!
@VV, that kind of speculation doesn't work for me. If power-getters were town, then scum wouldn't have much of a hope.-
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1. FakeGod suggested it earlier and was shot down. Admittedly, the lack of an "empowerer" type role surprises me and I did speculate that scum choose the power-getter, but confirmed town are more and more powerful as the game goes on and I don't believe that the mod would take such a risk. Thor's rebuttals were quite good, IIRC I agreed with all of them.
2. It was a theory, I was surprised to get two "cop"-type roles and looking at your power-name "drunken-ness" lead me to speculate a VV-Plum-Tasky scumteam. However, placing you as a "paranoid cop" fits flavour and balance so I am back to square one on that.
Right now with the elimination of town-reads and the solid belief that you and Button are not scumbuddies, Fakegod is the way to go.
That sums up my entire thought process of the day really.-
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