Mini 251: MtG Mafia (Game Over)

vIQleS · Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:51 pm

Random Vote: Tony

for being the last post before mine, plus with a name like Tony he's gotta be scum.

vIQleS · Post Post #22 (isolation #1) » Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:49 am

I'm not entirely sure why we are bandwagoning N_lich...

Is whatever he said a scum tell? Are we bandwagoning to push for a claim?

I just think it seems a bit early for claiming... Could we stop the voting and discuss a bit more first?

I'll provide a

FOS:N_lich

if that'll help anything, but I think we should hear something from him before we put any more votes on.

vIQleS · Post Post #29 (isolation #2) » Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:54 pm

I'm wanting to hear from him as well, so a FOS might wake him up.

There are three votes - as I understand the conventions, that is a bandwagon.

I'm not opposed to bandwagoning or lynching anyone, nor a role claim (eventually), but I just didn't want to get too close to a lynch before he's even noticed that he's in the spotlight.

As far as i'm concerned 4 is too close. even if it is bad tactics for the mafia (and statisticly unlikely) it is technically posible for them to lynch someone who has 4 votes...

Why are you so keen?

vIQleS · Post Post #30 (isolation #3) » Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:59 pm

And there's a page two that i hadn't noticed...

Sorry - quote for the previous post:

Bamboomancer wrote:First of all there are TWO votes. This is not A) A bandwagon or B) A Rush. It is my experience, and I believe Thesp will back me up on this, that people who say "Oh no, X happened " or "At least X didn't happen!" and don't even bother with a random vote are giving us a scum tell.

And no, FOS'ing the person that you CLAIM to be watching us "steamroll" doesn't help anything at all.

vIQleS · Post Post #31 (isolation #4) » Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:08 pm

N_lich wrote:vIQleS: Why are you Fos'sing me if you don't see why? If you think I've done something, sure, but Fos'sing me because some people have voted me strikes me as artificially trying to keep in with the mainstream of the town.

I can see why they are voting you, I'm just not sure that it warranted a bandwagon on the first page. Especially since you hadn't said anything for a few days...

It's not particularly interesting that no one died... It just means that we have a Doctor or Roleblocker... Which is 'good', not 'interesting'...

vIQleS · Post Post #38 (isolation #5) » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:59 pm

Thesp wrote:Alright, everyone, please vote for N-lich to kill him. Also, mod, can we have a prod on Nox? Thank you.

I'm sorry where did this come from? Do you know something? If you do I think we'd all like to hear it. Before we lynch someone based on very little evidence and with no role claim to help us decide...

vote: thesp

until he explains this post

vIQleS · Post Post #41 (isolation #6) » Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:24 pm

Thesp wrote:Thank you for your contribution. We will trace your actions a bit later, especially the cop baiting bit. I will ignore your request to reveal whether or not I have an investigation.

Also, role claims are not defenses. Why are you sointerested in people's roles?

Don't give me that crap. You just ordered everyone to lynch N_lich. Why are you so unwilling to justify your post.

vIQleS · Post Post #45 (isolation #7) » Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:39 am

I'm not going to vote anyone just because you say to. Unless you claim to have some information. In which case we can check by lynching, if you're lying we lynch you. It's very simple

I don't know what you expected to happen when you said "I order everyone to kill N_lich", if anyone did it would be because they believe you have info. In which case you die tomorrow anyway (if he's innocent).
If you're not scum, then regardless of whether you are a cop or not you are dead tonight, because the scum are going to assume the same thing.

The only way this works out is if you are not a cop, in which case we're lynching at random, or based on your vague hunch.

Thesp wrote:So are you affirming your request to see whether or not I have an information role? Just checking.

Fankly if you have nothing to add I'd rather not hear anything else from you. I would like to hear from everyone else. So far this game we've heard from about 5 people... I'm going to shut up as well, until we get some more discussion...

vIQleS · Post Post #49 (isolation #8) » Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:40 pm

Thesp wrote:
vIQleS wrote:I don't know what you expected to happen when you said "I order everyone to kill N_lich", if anyone did it would be because they believe you have info. In which case you die tomorrow anyway (if he's innocent).
If you're not scum, then regardless of whether you are a cop or not you are dead tonight, because the scum are going to assume the same thing.
You're setting up a lot of unnecessary false circumstances.

No - it's called theorising, examining possible outcomes. Your mislabelling things isn't going to convince people that I'm scum, if that's what you're trying do

Thesp wrote:
vIQleS wrote:The only way this works out is if you are not a cop, in which case we're lynching at
random, or based on your vague hunch.
Why would that be random?

Deliberately misinterpreting? Sounds Scummy to me.

In the absense of anyone else playing this game, I think that you should start a claim. Are you a cop or not.

We also need to hear from N_lich, just because we're not talking about you doesn't mean you're off the hook.

Where is everyone.

vIQleS · Post Post #50 (isolation #9) » Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:45 pm

I changed my mind just as I pressed the button:

I don't need you to roleclaim, you're not a cop.

I do want a roleclaim from N_lich.

vote N_lich

My next vote will go to Thesp, if he's not a cop then he's scum.

vIQleS · Post Post #53 (isolation #10) » Sat Nov 26, 2005 12:24 pm

Nox wrote: First, he gets on Thesp's back for "ordering everyone to vote N_lich." I also noticed Falloutgirl just jumping the wagon at this point, with not much substance, which in my eyes is very scummy. This is a mere impression, but in my mind, when it seems that a wagon is building up to fast, it probably is. People who just say"Yeah, I agree! -> Vote" or things of the sort come off as really scummy to me. Now, I'd also like to point out that I highly doubt that scum would go out of they're way to accuse somebody, whilst drawing such negative attention to themselves. They usually tend to jump on misleading wagons, or go with the flow in attempt to -not- stick out.

Now. The confusing part, is that vIQleS now votes for N_lich, after criticizing Thesp for ordering people to do so. Not to mention the statements that:

1. Thesp is either scum, or a cop.
2. Thesp is not a cop.

If both statements are true,and you are not contradicting yourself, this would logically mean that Thesp is scum. But you are listening to him, and voting N_lich. How obtus can your logic be?

I'm voting - I find N_lich scummy. I also find Thesp scummy. It started with me challenging him for his bizarre post and then degenerated into a silly slanging match... I have stopped trying to explain myself and he refuses to.

In the absense of anyone else playing this game I have to go with the consensus before thesp and vote N_lich. The reason I'm not voting thesp yet is the fact that he has stuck his head out, which is a bad move if he is scum...

I'm sick of being the only one talking - without anyone else to balance my theories and ideas I get a little overboard and end up being lynched day one. The reason it's so confusing is I'm just typing what I think at the time, and no one else is contributing. So now I want to hear from everyone else.

vIQleS · Post Post #78 (isolation #11) » Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:49 pm

bethelmark wrote: From my experience, games this small don't have vanilla townie roles.

I don't think that's true - I've been in a lot of games where there's been 'vanilla' townies

Anyway Crunch time:

vote: N_lich

vIQleS · Post Post #79 (isolation #12) » Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:51 pm

Actually that looks knid of weird: I wasn't posting that as a defense of N_lich's claim - only saying that i think it has achance of being genuine. I'm leaning strongly on the side of lynch... Hence the vote.

vIQleS · Post Post #93 (isolation #13) » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:04 pm

TonyMontana wrote:Doh!

Serves you right.

(I told you he was scum...)