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Apologies, had a busy weekend with several assignments due at the beginning of this week + 2 full shifts at work = A very tried Enigma.
Just so you guys know, my life revolves around assignment deadlines (seeing as term is nearing) and I'm pretty fail at not procrastinating (eg I could be doing an assignment early but instead I am wasting time posting this post). So if I disappear or post very little for a few days, assume I am not sleeping and living off Nodos and Redbull trying to get an assignment done before the deadline.
Uprising wrote:I'm not moving my vote until Enigma posts. If he has already posted, let me know. I must have missed it.
How could you miss it? The thread was only 2+ pages long...Enigma wrote:moooooooo!
I'm actually not liking all your posts so far.
It's RVS? Why not. Does it make you nervous? Is that why you aren't participating in the RVS joy and excitement by keeping your vote on me?Uprising wrote:Why are we putting somebody at L-2?
Obviously. It's RVS and there is nothing concrete. RVS or not, I'm sure you can do better than that and participate in the discussion about how bad people fail at being prosauce at RVS.Uprising wrote:I haven't decided how I feel on anyone yet. Neutral reads for the most part.
Someone please give this guy a medal.Nobody Special wrote:B.ii) RVS lasts far longer than anyone ever acknowledges. I feel I am doing a Public Service by pointing this out as often as possible.
This is a purely OMGUS vote ... loljks not really.
VOTE: Uprising
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I see zero non circumstantial evidence as to why everyone is voting chesskid...
Interesting to see everyone jump on his wagon with pretty weak evidence.
Also,
Mooooooooooooo!
^Just some random post to let people know I know I'm in the game but I was too busy to post something non-trivial on my iphone.-
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What? You soft claimed??? Really??!? Where I didn't see it?chesskid3 wrote:You are the biggest wagon, it would be nice to get a claim or to confirm you town/scum, if the latter it would be a nice lynch.
Rolefishing woo. I softclaimed a PR. Pretty sure that counts as town, Mr.
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This is a disturbing post, it just reeks scum to me. This is baseless and not supported by any evidence, and just looking for an excuse to jump onto the wagon later. Maybe just a rookie slip but gut tells me otherwise. Even after chesskid disappears from L-1, Uprising is still yet to place down a vote. I'm extremely happy with where my vote lies for now.Uprising wrote:chesskid3, you remind me of a child trying to guilt trip his parents into buying him a toy.
I do think you are a little scummy. I do think you are scum moreso than anyone else. However, I will not vote you yet because the day doesn't need to end yet (clearly).
People who don't express their opinions don't really tend to fall onto anyone's scum list and end up getting ignored, same deal goes for me. Doesn't mean we are confirmed town.chesskid3 wrote:well you (Uprising) aren't on my scumlist, so you did something right.
Regarding bulbasaurs RVS play, personally I play RVS like a douche, especially if the thread is active during then, and I'm sure many other people treat RVS as an impluse. So I don't think much of Moo's case against chess, RVS should be used to supplement information later in the day, not as the sole driving cause.
In scrolling down, I see Exe's #149, which pretty much replicate my own opinions.
NS has posted fluff since RVS ended, interesting. I suppose he still thinks we are in RVS in some deluded sense.
People who keep on answering posts by typing in someone else's quote box annoy me. Don't blame me if I don't read your argument. Same deal for people who don't say who the quote they are posting is from.
CoolDog doesn't look impressive atm. His jump onto the chesskid wagon, and his incredibly defensive nature about votes jumping onto him don't appeal to me.
Tasky is multiple times worse than CoolDog, and I actually have no idea what he is trying to achieve or communicate. If I dind't want to vote Uprising, I would be voting you. Raincheck.-
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Claiming is just lulz.
Quote Role PM please. Thanks.
The rate at which CoolDogs wagon formed is unimpressive. Even though I find him scummy, I could see opportunistic scum jumping to the wagon to make it seem like bussing, or a quick mislynch. Particularly NS's flip from Chesskid onto Cooldog.
This post is the biggest lulz ever. Especially with her earlier post about not wanting to vote incase she incorrectly voted. I'm keeping my vote her until all you other numheads realize this and decide to follow my awesomeness. Uprising's fellow scumbuddies have been noted for disguising all her scumslips as insignificant or trivial!Uprising wrote:I have no idea who scum is. CooLDoG and Chesskid3 seem most likely to me.
UNVOTE: VOTE: CooLDoG
Tasky is still incredibly unimpressive with his play. Has anyone actually even cared to look at his ISO? If CoolDog flips scum (or town even), I'm most certainly going after Tasky. After I deal with the scum that is Uprising first that is.-
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To clarify, I believed Chesskid had effectively pretty much claimed a doc and since people were talking about how many kills would occur etc, I thought him claiming his role would produce some good insight into the validity of CD's claim and possible night actions.
Chesskid writing in other people's quote brackets makes me a sad panda. I nearly missed it. Please don't do it again.
Based on the past 2 pages, Zang has shot up my scum list from being an AFK that everyone ignored to probable scum. I also still find Uprising's play consistently scummy.-
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@Zang
Everyone has forgotten you exist because you haven't really posted much and didn't really state any definitive opinions that noone really even acknowledged your posts much.
@Uprising
You should seriously go play some newbie games... I hate it when people get tunneled base on who just hammered someone etc etc. Lynching is a town effort, the hammer was just one person's contribution amongst many others who lead to the lynch.
Then you have the idiots who take how people vote in RVS as gospel using the fact that because you put someone at L-1 in RVS, you must be scum (or w/e) when the game is 30 pages long. I pity those fools.
@NS
Ohh how I adore VI play. I would much rather get rid of you today regardless of your alignment than have to worry about it in LYLO. And least we will have a nice bandwagon analysis to gain from it. (PS: Claim please)
Also, I looked at Uprising's first game on this site, Newbie 1005. For those who call her town based on her current play, I suggest you have a gander over at that game, where she was a town cop. I actually have a really good feeling she is being coached to play scum right now.-
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Tasky posts some content but unfortunately it's all wrong.
I'm going to take my bets that if you try and lynch someone else, they are just going to claim another PR. Based on all the claims so far it's obvious this game is PR heavy, some much more useful than others.
Regardless the Moo claim doesn't excite me and looks to be the most likely to be a fake claim.-
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Firstly I have exams soon (4*80% 3 hr exams in 1 week is not fun).*hyperventilates*
Secondly, I am getting sick due to lack of sleep and too much coffee and it's pissing me off.
Thirdly, My other game in late LYLO just finished so I should be able to focus on this one.
So enough about me now.
*Wave's at Moo's replacement*
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I sense alot of buddying up from Charnel towards me. Makes me feel a bit uneasy atm.
Zang's 457doesn't appeal to me. Easily keeps him up on the scum list. Glad to see other people are noticing him now.
2. You may watch all cameras at once, learning every action that is performed that night, but not by who nor on who. However, once you’ve used this action, you will not be able to perform any action the following night.I would like this ability clarified: Exactly what will he learn? The role ability names? Because afaik from the current role PM's out, they don't have ability names...
I'm still trying to digest this ability fully and whether it would be beneficial to town if he revealed this information the next day.
Uprising's 482 still doesn't impress me. And if I see that player in LYLO I'm not going to be happy
If NS is scum, I don't think Exe is scum. Coudn't see a busing between those 2 based on their interactions.
I see Zang's 500as a soft defense of NS.
Vote Count Discussion:
We have an awful lot of L-1!
NS on every wagon but his own.
CD on every wagon but his own.
Wingless on every wagon but NS. Minimal comment on NS wagon. I call scum buddy with NS if NS is scum.
Exe on every recent wagon (3).
Enigma not on any wagons Fail much?
Slaxx only on one wagon. (He did replace but was around for most the wagons)
Zang only on one wagon.
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No if you looked at my entire post you would realize that it was just mainly a summation for now.Zang wrote:Charnel wrote:
Is this supposed to be scummy?Enigma wrote:Zang only on one wagon.
But your response sure is scummy. Getting nervous with attention (ironic since you have been quite ignored for a while) is a sure sure scum tell.
I really would like my question answered regarding the mechanics of NS's role, because I find it quite unbelievable as it is right now.
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Do some scum hunting.
Stop playing the noob card.
Defend yourself instead of acting clueless.
Actually offer your opinion on what has happened in the entirety of the game, not just on issues which concern you.
Also liking what chesskid said about your bolding previously. I like how you seem to bold specific words when referring to yourself as scum.
I'm still happy with the Uprising vote, will gladly switch to NS also, and Zang too should a wagon form on him.-
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Well I read through 541 by chess on TL. It was actually quite painful on my brain cells to read his formatting btw and figure out who said what. I actually find alot of the points minor and not conclusively scummy. The only thing that stands out to me is the NS-TL interactions.
I however find this post scummy. I actually read Chess' case multiple times and I can't see exactly what you agree so much with. Care to share it with me?CoolDog wrote:@TL, defend yourself from Chess's case. I agree with most of his points, we have 4 or so days left, and you look like a good lynch target, but for now I like my vote on NS, not TLing.
Fast forwarding to the next page, we see multiple people coming in and saying they agree with the Chess case. They don't say what they agree with or even discuss why they find him scummy, just use it as an excuse to jump on the TL wagon as scum.
Maybe it's me, but I actually tried to read the whole case properly next to TL ISO, to decide if I would be willing to hammer TL. I just can't find the same enthutisuam as the others (Tasky, Zang, Exe and Uprising). So these guys gain some more scum points. I'll do a bet that there is at least one, most likely 2 scum in this group.
NS: Is useless. Sorry
Agree heaps with this post. And you will find me in the exact same position. I won't be hammering unless the deadline is certain. I'm convinced there are far better lynchs than this.Charnel wrote:My early read of TL was scum, but this really doesn't make sense, guys. Uprisings hop on TL's wagon is scummy as hell. She acknowledges that chesskid's case is hard to read, but follows on the wagon anyway. This is all going way to fast. I think I was wrong on my earlier read, because it really doesn't make sense that TL is scum and the wagon spontaniously forms after, frankly, a bad case by chesskid (I don't doubt your intentions, but the shouldn't convince anyone)
The only time you'll see me on the TL wagon is the lastsecondbefore the deadline. NS and Uprising are far better choices.
CoolDog saying he was going to vig TL irks me. I can't place exactly why, but maybe tonight's events might clarify my view.
I kind of believe the VT claim. I just kind of envision the scum fake claims to be more similar to some of the claims we have already seen (PR types).
Wingless flaking after saying he was going to hammer is scummy. I expect a magnitude of reasons which made you decide to hammer when you vote then.-
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Yay .. someone I can agree with for once.Enigma wrote:Fast forwarding to the next page, we see multiple people coming in and saying they agree with the Chess case. They don't say what they agree with or even discuss why they find him scummy, just use it as an excuse to jump on the TL wagon as scum.
Maybe it's me, but I actually tried to read the whole case properly next to TL ISO, to decide if I would be willing to hammer TL. I just can't find the same enthutisuam as the others (Tasky, Zang, Exe and Uprising). So these guys gain some more scum points. I'll do a bet that there is at least one, most likely 2 scum in this group.-
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Dear Nobody Special,
Care to answer this question which I asked quite a while ago?
Or at least PM the mod and ask for clarification then report back to us!
I hope you are having a wonderful Halloween!
Many thanks, Kind regards, Yours Sincerely,
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I have a slight suspicion just about how CoolDog is playing. I don't doubt he has a night kill .. just hoping it is town aligned and not 3rd party or something. Regardless, I shall see how the night's events turn out.
I'm amazed how noone has followed my NS question about his role. I still find his role extremely suspicious (the mechanics of it as a town aligned role) and coupled with his play style I am quite disappointed that people are suggesting that he is not a good option to lynch.
It's quite pathetic that it's my exam week and I am more active than ever. Fkn dumb mafia game gunna screw my grades.
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2 days till deadline and people are still fucking indecisive.
Either choose to commit to an Uprising lynch or say you are going to stay on the TL wagon and want to see him hanged.
Even though NS has answered my Q about his role, I'm still not satisfied about the mechanics of the role and still view it as a fake claim.-
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Tasky has been fingered for fail logic. Did you even think after reading Charnel's claimed role?
Chesskid has been noted for being more dumb than he appears to be.
I don't like how he is saying NS was "obv town", because I really couldn't judge that from his stupid behavior.
Uprising can have a break from my vote just for the beginning of today, since I had it on her all of yesterday.
I mentioned this the previous day, but now it's time to act,
VOTE: Zang
So I can keep reminding myself later,
Gunna say, Moospiker/Charnel slot doesn't look impressive, nor does all the people voting on the NS wagon in particular Tasky and Exe.
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Good stuff Tasky!
Firstly, a flavor role is just as useful for finding scum as it is for finding town. Really depends on the intent of who is using it.
I'm not willing to trust him blindly, especially since we know fake claims are available and the scumminess of that slot.
My vote analysis is based purely on the spread of the colors right now, I haven't had a good chance to look through it in much more depth, nor do I think it will be entirely accurate without many scum flips yet. Just there as a reminder. I like them too as they show what order the votes on a said person formed, and it's good to pick out opportunistic scum and scum trying to distance themselves from their buddies.
Though I do think that the Charnel/Zang points are looking quite promising.
All it's interesting to note who is NOT on the Moospiker (Charnel) wagon too.
I'm still pretty happy with my vote on Zang though.
Hello preview edits.
I lol@chesskid. This is coming from the guy who declared me obv town all of yesterday too!
Uprising still yet to provide any reasoning for any of her thoughts or plays.-
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Strategically avoiding wagons as scum?
Umm the strategic move would have been to make up some stupid reason to hammer TL with the deadline so close rather try try and force a wagon onto someone else.
And I had my vote in one place all of yesterday, and I'm sure the reasons which I kept it there are valid.-
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Aren't you a doctor? You would know if you were on the "vig" .. but then you are calling him an SK too.
Make up your mind.
This is really naive. Please don't.Uprising wrote:CooLDoG - is town. His revealed role PM did say that the victim would die of a heart attack, right? I'm sure a fake role PM probably wouldn't have the same flavour of a kill (I'm hoping).
Exe's 815 about vote analysis seems very promising and I find there is much to agree with.
Zang isn't helping his situation. I wonder if he even remembers all the votes that are currently on him.-
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I don't want to nitpick but one thing that I find weird about the above claim is that the mod's name isn't in the quote box, even though the rest of the role is formatted (bolded and colored).
Interesting... Why would that be Zang, couldn't you just hit the quote button from the role pm and ctrl c/v it directly?-
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And then this will happen all over again!
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 3#p2612653
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Why does Lrdwhyt get a town read when his voting patterns are the same as mine? Hell he has posted barely anything thus far.
Not to mention your voting pattern isn't the most impressive either.
Kinda seems like a forced read, which only scum would be required to do.
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Don't like being called scum do ya?
Lrdwhyt case.
1. Tell me how you find bv310 town? He has 2 contentless posts. If you are that good, we need to all stop playing mafia because you will always win.
2. Slaxx looks alright, but I still find his rolecop argument against you very strong. Beside that and a few posts on my stupidity with the doc claim, he hasn't said much.
3. Lrdywhyt has exactly the same voting and argument pattern as me (Uprising). So if you view this as town, why the flip on me?
I'm calling that you are scum, in fact I'm pretty sure of it, combined with Moo's play. If every player on that slot reads scum to me individually, that is quite a strong tell in favor of them.-
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Care to point out where I called you scum?
I'm saying you are viewing me as scum, thus constructing your argument from that perception.
I'm attacking Charnel's reads and I'm waiting for his response, so unless your name is Charnel, piss off with answering a question directed to someone else.
I've been saying Charnel's slot hasn't looked impressive for a while, I just didn't post a direct argument to him yet. So that's one of your points off.
My intentions for day 1 have been clear the whole time. Just because I didn't support some retarded WIFOMy case (which turned out to be wrong anyways) doesn't make me scum.
My argument makes perfect logical sense against his argument against me tyvm.
You however now get the courtesy of a scum read too, jumping to the defense of your buddy.-
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Charnel actually read the thread, I explained why my behavior during Day 1, so I don't need to fabricate some stupid reason now as to why I played like I did then. I noted who I was suspicious, and those would obviously been the people I would like to vote for with my own reasons.
Sorry I'm not some mindless bandwagoning twat who jumps onto a wagon with zero fucking reason which is how most the bandwagons formed. Obviously that is much more pro-town than logical voting. HERPADERPA. (in case my sarcasm wasn't blunt enough).
Your early case on me revolved purely (<-READ) around my voting patterns. I pointed out that my voting patterns were very similar to other people who you claimed town. You and your scum buddies somehow manipulated that into me flailing around when being accused of being scummy. I'm not saying I'm the same as Lrdy, I'm saying by your retarded logic that my voting patterns (<-KEY WORD) were scummy, you contradicted yourself with your town reads. (PS: contradictions are scummy).
Btw you managed to be in the same boat as chess yesterday, stating multiple times you thought I was town. So you somehow think Lrdy's early posts are good, ohh wait you said mine are very town too (multiple times mind you). Nice fucking contradiction here guys.
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Uprising, NS (because CD says he won't shoot him), back to uprising until the remainder of the day.
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My relation to Lrdy was based purely on Charnel using my voting patterns as his primary argument of accusing me.
Lrdy voted exactly the same way I did, gave similar argument on exactly the same person and was not on any other wagon.
Charnel's case on me includes ZILCH other reasons (He has not attacked my argument or reasoning for my votes or play prior to that) apart from the fact that I wasn't on a wagon and that action by itself was scummy.
I'm not relating anything else to him but the exact (and only) argument which Charnel used against me several times: That is my voting patterns were scummy.
That is the only issue I bought up, and you are just purposely misrepping it for your own agenda.
The fact that you have ignored my entire argument against Charnel (it has it's strengths) and flipping in completely onto me easily merits you scumpoints, regardless of who my argument was against.
Apologies about the "piss off" remark.
Preview Edit: Does it look like I'm accusing you of scum? Have you even read all my posts? Please read it again then point out my failure at reading comprehension.
If I wanted to call you scum, it would have hit you in the face. Maybe try contribute something more productive to this game today?
@Chesskid, If you are protecting me then you are stupid anyways. I'm town and there is no way I'll be night killed by scum tonight.-
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