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I'm just going to back away slowly...chess wrote:RVS is not over.
This legit or RVS? If it is a fo' rlz vote then do you care to explain?gandalf wrote:VOTE: Andrew
Scummityscumscum.
Again... can we see some explaination?Chess wrote:Unvote
Vote: Narsis
Scum. Srs bisness
Vote: Chessfo' rlz for not even reading the thread (or else he'd know that RVS was over), thinking the RVS was still going despite the fo' srz votes, and for lack of any explainations.-
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Except that no one rushed to his defense... You avoided a question which=scummy. kthxbai.Chess wrote:One of the two people who just rushed to his defense is likely a scumbuddy.
you're kind of late there... Although I understand that no one likes admitting that they're wrong and that the RVS ened a long, long time ago.chess wrote:Now the rvs is over :teach:-
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That was not what I was saying. I was saying that it seemed to me you just decided to arbitarily "end the RVS" right there despite the fact that it was over a while ago and that you're STILL (Not were) having trouble admitting it.Chess wrote:This is not me admitting I'm wrong, this is me saying that the rvs is NOW over, but wasn't before.
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Anyways, that doesn't matter much now since we can both agree that the RVS is over and any discussion about when it ended is basically a waste of time at this point.-
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@Chess/Malt- Why are we still talking about the overness of the RVS? It's over. We can all agree on that. It doesn't matter when it was over anymore.
Are you actually buying this Kat obvjoke? Come on now.malt wrote:It's just that something really rubs me about the way you phrased your role. I've been in quite a few Mind Screw/Weird Role games where the mod is indeed a role. It's practically a rule of thumb that a mod has to be neutral or self aligned if they are playing for many reasons such as mod bias and the like. The fact that a mod would be aligned with player has me scratching my head on how that could possibly work out....-
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@Chess- At first I was telling you to read the thread and stuff because that was before you admitted the RVS was over. I started saying that we should stop talking about the RVS because you finally said that the RVS was over and everyone at that point could agree on it. Meaning there was no point about arguing about it anymore. Next time think first, then post
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From weakest to strongest they are:Chess wrote:You can't discard it when it's supposedly the reason you and Darkhorse are voting for me. You want to discard it, either move your vote or give reasons nao.
1. Your previous refusal to explain your vote
2. Your refusal to answer questions
3. Your weak and questionable reasoning for Voting/FoSing Narsis and DH
Anyways, I'm tired and beginning to rethink my chess vote as he's beginning to seem tyown in some elements but scum in others. Will reread chess's iso (And everybody elses while I'm at it) tomorrow.-
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Your initial refusal to explain it. I should have made that more clear (Even though you did answer, it doesn't erase the mark against you)Chess wrote:1. I explained it immediately after Narsis responded, no?
The "Why choose Narsis for your reaction vote" one. Again, even though you answered doesn't erase the mark.chess wrote:2. ....Show me a question I haven't answered?
If you can't find anything good in seven pages then you're not trying hard enough.3. OMG MY CASE IS "WEAK" ON PAGE 7 OF DAY 1? OMG WAT SHOULD I DO? ZOMG SUICIDE IRL PL0X?
@Adumbro- I asked you a question a while back, answer it.
Scumpicks- You (will get into it later in this post) then chess, then AndrewAdumbro wrote:@chess and doom: Who are your top scumpicks and townpicks, and why?
Townpicks- Nice try scumz
No explaination! YAY!vezo wrote:Let him live. Let's wagon a scum like malthusis.
vote matlhusis
Wow! You can't even find ONE person who you think is even slightly scum! You're on a roll!Adumbro wrote:Scum:
leaning scum:
Unvote, Vote: Adumbro
1. For random voting after the RVS was over which signalled that she wasn't even reading the thread.
2. Asking for townpicks. WTF?
3. A lack of any scumhunting whatsoever (unless you count "What are your scumpicks and townpicks?")
4. for having only FUCKING SMALLISH VIBES. I mean come on... We're on page seven. You should have SOMETHING by now.-
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I wouldn't go that far but I would say you're pretty gullible XDMalt wrote:I took it seriously, am I absolutely retarded?
If you read my second post (Technically third if you count my confirm post) I say that my vote was me thinking the RVS was still going on because of all the "wtf" votesAndrew wrote:then doom, explain why u voted for me becos i dont know what 'mason' is, when it was clearly a joke vote for kat-
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*Looks at AD's posts*VP, HAR! wrote:DoomBunny( He is trying to make a case of 5 points on a person who barely posted but actualy posted good stuff)
*Notices lack of any good things*
*lolz at your mistake*
I'm going to tell you the same thing I told chess. Actually, I hate having to type things up all over again. I'm going to direct you to the post. I'll even be nice enough to give you the post number. (It's iso #10. Thanks for playing)TA wrote:1. For the backtracking chesskid pointed out in post 151.
Explain.TA wrote:2. For having weak reasons to vote someone.
Why are these the same thing? The only one making mountains out of molehills is you sir.TA wrote:3. For making mountains out of molehills to make reasons to vote someone look better than they are.
4. For using lists with lots of points on it to make it seem like they have a much better case than they actually have!
Also, how the hell are bulletted lists scummy? This has got to be the most insane thing I've heard this game that they were serious about.-
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Just realized I was thinking of something else, my bad XDAdumbro wrote:Where?
Quote and link to post please.
I DID tell you my scumpicks kthx. Townpicks don't help town all that much and are just guides telling maf who to kill.Adumbro wrote:Wait, you think asking you to take stances IS SCUMMY?
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Townpicks and scumpicks are important for stance analysis and useful information for town.
Slightly on the null side isn't good enough. Everyone knows at least one person who they have good scumreads on except you. Notice a problem?Adumbro wrote:Reread... I explicitly put people on the wrong side of null and explained why, cause yea, nobody stands out to me as scummy enough to push further.
chess is not most people. chess is one person. That is all.Adumbro wrote:You seemed under the mistaken impression that RVS was over while most of the thread seemed to disagree, however it wasn't worth quibbling over so I didn't bother arguing with you.
No, asking questions is scumhunting. JUST asking for scum/townreads isn't.Adumbro wrote:Asking question isn't how you scumhunt?
Then how DO you scumhunt praytell?
See aboveadumbro wrote:Nobody's made a large enough slip to push them further then that.
Fair enough. I retract this point.Adumbro wrote:There IS a v/la thread you know, you'd do well to read it prior to accusing people of lurking.
I see your point. That wasn't my only reason for voting him however, again, read the thread.TA wrote:Why is not reading the thread scummy? How does not reading the thread help someone if they are scum?
It is a bs reason to vote someone, and an even more bs reason to justify your vote on someone.
So I could have said the exact same thing except not numbered or bulleted and it would be fine? Come on now, this is the most bullshit thing I've heard since people have tried to convince me that telling jokes are scumtells.TA wrote:Actually all of the last three points on my list were essentially the same, or at least in the same ballpark, and that is the point - when you write a list like you did it makes it seem you have more evidence than you do against someone, it is a way to manufacture weight behind your reasoning especially when you know the reasoning is weak.-
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You're going to get the exact same answer as before whether I make it bulleted or not...TA wrote:Let me put it another way: why do you think adumbro is scum?
You keep saying this but you never actually explain it... I still have no idea how making a bulleted list is somehow scummy compared to saying the exact same thing unbulleted.TA wrote:If you have to make a list with a bunch of minor points against him to convince yourself and everyone else, then you don't have a strong case. And pushing a weak case, by making it seem like a strong case, is scummy.
As an off note: HOW THE HELL IS VOTING SOMEONE FOR MAKING A BULLETED LIST A 'STRONG CASE'?
@Adumbro- I feel fine not helping scum out kthx. I'll tell you everyone eho I have at least slight scumreads on adn ou can figure out who I'm getting town/null reads on from there:
In no real order: You, chess, veko, Andrew, TA
But the thing is there ARE scum tells. Somehow you seem to be failing to look for them. I'm going to request something from you: reread the thread and tell me who your top 3 scumreads are no matter how slight the reads you have on them are.Adumbro wrote:People being too quick to declare others scum?
While uncommon, winning games through process of elimination is a perfectly viable strategy when there are stand-out town tells, but no stand-out scum tells.
At the time of your post plenty of people were making serious votes. How you connected serious votes to "OMG ITS STILL RVS TIME" I fail to understand (Wait a minute... Why the fuck are we still on this? We should have stopped talking about when the RVS ended a long, long time ago)Adumbro wrote:Didn't I quote another RVS post right above one? As well as the majority of posts before that? RVS stops when it stops, you're not the arbitrator of when RVS ends.
@Adumbro- How scummy do you find Gandalf? Is your vote a vote you plan on keeping or just a pressure vote to get him to talk?
Oh yes, asking one other question and calling out chess for being dumbtown... How could I have missed these earth shattering breakthroughs in scumhunting >.>Adumbro wrote:Except that isn't all I was doing,
If I remember correctly the only person you asked who needed to talk was Kat...Adumbro wrote:but regardless asking people to take stances IS one of the most useful forms of information you can get. It's also a nice way of getting people who need to talk talking.
Andrew knew roughly when the RVS ended. I have no idea what you're talking about.Adumbro wrote:Also, I'm not quite sure what you mean, but your post was an illustration since it obviously wasn't just chesskid who thought it was still RVS.-
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TA wrote:when you write a list like you didit makes it seem you have more evidence than you do against someone, it is a way to manufacture weight behind your reasoning especially when you know the reasoning is weak.TA wrote:For using lists with lots of points on itto make it seem like they have a much better case than they actually have!
I'm oh so sorry for thinking that "Writing lists like you did" and "Using lists with a lot of points" means "BS reasons". I just looked back and all my reasons were valid. Care to explain how they are not?TA wrote:You are misrepping the fuck out of this situation. It is NOT because your list was bulleted. It's because your lists was a bunch of bs to justify your vote. You were clearly clawing desperately to anything you could to make your case seem bigger and better than it was, and the reason you felt you needed to justify it so much is because you knew it was bs because you are scum.
What a convincing arguement! Now cut the crap and contribute something helpful.VP (HAR!) wrote:Guys stop voting me. You will find a confirmed town Vezok at the end of the line..
/is THIS close to voting VP despite the fact that she will apperantly be confirmed and is named vezo and not VP-
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@Vezo, you're at L-3. Why did you feel the need to claim?
@Gandalf- Well thanks for defending vezo... If vezo is scum I'd think gandalf would be one of her scumpartners. Also, I refuse to give someone a free pass just because of meta.
@TA- Except you said that it made more evidence than I really do as a RESULT of a bulleted list.
Honestly? Did you really think I was being serious? I said I checked back to push you in the right direction. Unless you think I have a terrible, terrible memory and need to check my role PM everytime I post to check my faction then this is a crap reason.TA wrote:Wait, you had to look back to check if your points were valid? I think that just proves my case.
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In all honesty, its pretty close between the two. RBT at least appears to make the slightest effort (although pretty poorly) while vezo just seems to be following other people and making pretty poor reasons for voting. Also, she's scrambling pretty hard right now what with the "stop voting me! I'm town" and early claims. I still want to hear a good post from either of them though.chess wrote:How do you feel about RBT, then? Since the case on vezok is that he hasn't provided content, why are your votes not on RBT?-
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Alright so just lists in general are bad? What if I had just written it out in a paragraph?TA wrote:No I said you made it look like you had a better case than you actually had.
Do you see the difference? I never actually mentioned "bulleted" list anywhere. If you had made the same list without the bullets I would still be after you for it.
Even if I did have short term memory and needed to check my post, how would that be scummy?TA wrote:You said "I looked back and all my reasons were valid". I interpreted it the most obvious way, i.e. that you actually did what you said rather than it being rhetoric.
As a response to the rest of your post:
1. I think I mentioned somewhere that I retracted this point. It may have been related to chess however.
2. I disagree and talked about it with Adumbro, any extra arguements about it should be taken out of thread however.
3 and 5. Hence my current vote
4. It is just as hard for scum to make a case as it is for town however, it is still VERY easy to find just one person with slight vibes on. It just looks like scum trying to get a free ride and not have to do anything FMPOV
I loled.RBT wrote:Chess, you should stop, and tell me how I'm not producing "content". All you're doing right now is pushing a scummy bandwagon.
Its not as risky, especially since you knew you would probably have time to post again before you got lynched. For example, people could have switched over from you to RBT before you got to L-2 or L-1. If someone did lynch you before you got to claim... well they're just stupid and would have gotten lynched the next day. There's no reason to claim if you don't have to.vezok wrote:DB: Why would I claim at L-2 or anywhere else? I was online at that time and was at L-3. Close enough for me.
@Gandalf- Let vezo defend herself kthx.
This.Chess wrote:So you were talking to andrew, but you put your vote on me with no justification. Unless you're still trying to ride the omglulz rvs + didn't answer a question for a page omg u scumz bro wagon?
Oh yeahs...Unvote, Vote: RBTLet's try and produce moar content kthxbai.-
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Last time I checked, you can contribute and watch carefully.RBT wrote:It might just so happen that I'm watching carefully instead of just randomly spouting anything that comes to mind.
Ok, I think I get it now.DH wrote:1. He said I was scum because I had vote for chess while he had voted narsis, claiming i was buzzsaw defending
2. He said RVS is over much later than anyone else, and said that people who pointing that out where bandwagoning
(Hey TA, another list, guess you got two scum now XD)
TBH, I don't care. Now answer it.Adumbro wrote:That's a very different question.
But most of the people who were "still in the RVS" haven't came online since people started casting serious votes. The majority of the people who have posted since then were out of the RVS.Adumbro wrote:Then don't use it to pad a substanceless case to make it look like it had more substance...
Regardless, there were some serious votes, but it seemed like the majority hadn't moved out of RVS.
Kay. I reread. Still legit.Adumbro wrote:Hyperbole... I think you BELIEVE I'm scum, but you could definately do with a reread if you think this is even remotely legit.
You asked Kat (who needed it), me (who was active in discussion) and chess (Who is probably the person who talks THE MOST out of everyone).Adumbro wrote:I suggest you reread then.
It's based off of magic thingy roles from D&D 3.5Kat wrote:Gandalf, can you tell me as to what flavor this game is based on? I thought it was just a snowbunny creation.-
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I can safely say that unless I'm providing evidence (when I usually do put in the post #), its been one of the persons I quoted recentlys recent posts. If you're really having trouble with it just go back a page or two. You'll find it. And as Narsis said, just read the thread, you don't need to skim through everything.Andrew wrote:dude, but from where and what context.
i can only currently find a bit of them.
i would prefer if u said post 'number' or at least explained the context.
so you want Chess lynched because... He claimed a useless ability? Following your logic that VTs are useless you also want every VT lynched too? What is this? (Also try to remember that he said he had a NO LYNCH ability that he said he would use whenever someone tried to lynch him. Think moar pl0x)Andrew wrote:your reasoning was 'it was useless'
vanilla townies are useless to thnx
By "combining the tells" do you mean putting them all together or putting similar points together?TA wrote:Ok, so I didn't explain myself very clearly. That is my fault. I shall try again as clearly as possible:
It has less to do with the fact that it is a list than it is a bunch of fairly weak tells. By combining the tells you made it seem like you had a solid case, as there were 5 of them, even though you didn't.
My line of reasoning is this:
- you were doing that to justify placing your vote while also trying to manipulate others in to believing your case was stronger than it was,
- town would have no reason to behave like this,
- therefore you are not town.
If you mean the first then what do you expect me to do? It was the first post in which I really talked about Adumbro and as a result needed to put all my points in one post (Unless you expect me to say something like "I'm voting Adumbro now but I won't provide my case all at once. I'm going to spread it out over the next couple of days")
If you mean the second one then I'll make this handy tabe for you:
Placing a RV after the RVS =/= Asking for townpicks
Placing a RV after the RVS =/= Not scumhunting
Placing a RV after the RVS =/= Smallish vibes
Placing a RV after the RVS =/= Lurking
Asking for townpicks =/= Not scumhunting
Asking for townpicks =/= Smallish vibes
Asking for townpicks =/= Lurking
Not scumhunting =/= Smallish vibes (Even someone who sits on their ass all day instead of contributing can at least choose someone to vote... Kinda like RBT)
Not scumhunting =/= Lurking (You can talk without really doing anything... Kinda like RBT)
Smallish vibes =/= Lurking
So yeah... If you did mean this then tell me which one you disagree with.
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Lynch RBT. Totally.Chess wrote:Do we want to PL him for being a jerk, or shall we move over to malthusis? I'm good with either. I will not lose to lurkerscum.
Malt acting scummy=RBT IS SCUMZORZ? Explain nao.Kat wrote:I promise a post is incoming tonight.
Meanwhile...
OHOHOHO, THAT'S A NICE RICH CHAINSAW COMING FROM MALTHUSIS.
What's even better, he says he has a gut feeling about me, yet votes for my suspect? I THINK NOT!
Unvote, Vote RBT
You know who I think it was? It must have totally been that Doombunny person...Andrew wrote:the dude (forgot his name) is misreping me.
But you said you were voting Chess because his ability was useless... And then say VTs are useless... Excuse me for coming to the obvious conclusion.
Not related to the game but I loled at the "not knowing what D&D is" part. According to the wiki though, the flavor does match up. So now that you have verification from me and Gandalf, is there anything else that makes you not agree with his claim?Andrew wrote:becos gandalf said 'favour backup'
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You realize no one corrected me, Gandalf, or chess... Right? So unless you think everyone in town is completely retarded and can't read google anything or is scum then your logic is flawed.Andrew wrote:err, so ppl pro at D and D can just make up stuff./..
So you beleived that chess had a magic ability that would literally make everyone nausiated? Come on... its flavor XDAndrew wrote:are u saying thats ur ability?
i thought u said u were one shot no lynch
This is rediculous... Lets look back at the wiki page for nausiated that chess providedAndrew wrote:errr, HOW DOES THAT GOT TO DO WITH NO LYNCH
Think moar kthxD&D wiki wrote:Experiencing stomach distress. Nauseated creatures are unable to attack, cast spells, concentrate on spells,or do anything else requiring attention. The only action such a character can take is a single move action per turn.
Alright I'm done arguing with you about this trivial thing XD Regardless of the fact that "Combining the tells" does not mean "Your points are invalid" I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt.TA wrote:Ok you seem to have misunderstood me again. This time I'm blaming you.
I beleive I've defended myself about this. Unless you plan on supporting what you've just said you have no case here.TA wrote:My PROBLEM is with the fact that I believe hardly any of them are decent tells AT ALL; that you intended to fool people in to thinking you had a decent case by putting down a lot of points, even though the points weren't valid.
Please direct yourself to post 432.TA wrote:It ties in to my theory that you didn't have a strong case. I feel like if you had a strong case against someone you would be much more likely to remember it.
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Because I'm not? You're reasoning behind your vote is effing flawed as hell. I'm calling you out on it and fixing your mistakes.Andrew wrote:why are you defending chesskid doom
Also, is your only reasoning behind your vote because Chess's ability is useless and because you don't beleive it? The logic behind these two things is so full of holes it's not even funny.-
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Andrew... Think man! fist of all, your case on chess is flimsy as hell and secondly, I for one (And most other people too I assume) am not willing to risk having a 'no lynch' day unless there's more eveidence that supports Chess is lying about is role.Andrew wrote:unvote vote chess
what kind of game has 2 abilites that can cause no lynchs. im willing to bet one of them is mafia. have u seen another game where zwet is a mafia vanguard and stuff - can be lynched 1 day etc etc
I think this guy is just wasting our time now. Can we get a vig on him or RBT tonight (Then lynch the other. Boom. Two scum down) At this point I would be happy with either an Andrew or an RBT lynch.andrew wrote:^ implies that you know that there is a watcher-
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I already am.Chess wrote:vote rbt then
Meh. Maybe if there's more reason to. Personally, I don't think you're scum (Mostly a null tell on you) and RBT and Andrew are much better vig targets.Chess wrote:Also, Doom, in your opinion, wouldn't it be a good idea to try to vig me to see my flip?
I think I've made it clear enough alreadychess wrote:DarkHorse or RBT.
Everyone on the RBT wagon weigh in with an opinion please.-
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Blargh, a lot of catching up to do. I'm just going to skim through for now and give it a solid read later today.
1. RBTs claim is obvfake. On of my spellnames is the exact same (Not saying which one you dirty scumz) and it does something totally differant.
2. Even though I hate Andrew's posts so far he is screaming VT to me which is making me think he's town. Narsis is now my #2 pick.
3. Similar to what chess said: Be careful with one shots everybody! We may need them later.-
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I was told the roleblock didn't affect my abilities. I think that goes for everyone else as well. (Except for maybe vezok)chess wrote:btw abilities that people tried to use last night may have been lost, which was why I tried to caution people against using their vig shots.
Please tell me you're kidding.vezok wrote:I lost all of my abilities. NOOOOOO.-
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Cool story bro. Now... Feel like giving an actual defence?narsis wrote:hi. this is the town in your scumlist speaking.
"ROFL! Just because no one else is scumhunting (Which is something i'm going to tell the town despite the fact that enough people are scumhunting) means I don't have to do anything either! Now I can try and get a free ride! YAY!"Narsis wrote:scum hunt how? there has been next to no scum hunting by anyone this game. a bunch of players are lurking or V/LA, and almost all the discussion has been about who has what power roles and waiting for the night to come along so people can use them. hence the similarity to a follow the cop game...
Narsis has been continually more scummy throughout the game than DH IMO especially with his recent posts. narsis has done little to no scumhunting and just seems to be trying for a free ride, especially recently. Narsis also seems to be scrambling now since more people are voting/FoSing him.Chess wrote:Everyone voting Narsis or DH needs to explain why they picked one and not the other, btw.
What is this I don't even...Andrew wrote:in other notes, how am i lurking,not providing content?-
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Correct.gandalf wrote:I'm too lazy to look at a vote count, but I believe that Narsis is the bigger wagon?
Also, as TA said, whoever we don't kill today gets vigged.
How'd you come up with that? Why not the other way around?TA wrote:I've come to the conclusion that vig narsis, vote dh is the best play for today.-
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L-5 claim made me lol.
@Andrew- Honestly, how many games have you played on here?
For now though I'm willing to beleive DH because of how easy it would be to confirm him.
@DH- pl0x cast any ability other than baleful polymorph on someone pro-town (You don't count) or baleful polymorph on whoever you think is scumz.-
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Seriously now, lets think before posting. I'm not even going to tell you why this is crap posting because if you would think about it a bit more (no offence) you'd understand why XD I'll give you a hint: MASS ROLEBLOCKAndrew wrote:btw, all your actions, will the person know that they are affected? did you use any last night? it is easy to confirm, but is it town abilities.
Also, as an edit to my last post:
@DH- Either do one of two things. 1. Cast Eagles Splendor or Haste on someone you think is protown other than yourself (Bears Endurance is pretty fucking pointless) or 2. Cast Baleful Polymorph on someone you think is anti-town.-
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I'm not It is a VERY very poor case and if its honestly the best that Andrew can come up with, he needs to try harder.DH wrote:I wonder if anyone is convinced by andrew's argument....
Also, I would like to change my request to DH again regarding abilities (This is the last time I swear):
Cast Eagles Splendor or Haste on someone you think is pro town other than you. Don't cast Bears Endurance as it is worthless and don't cast Baleful Polymorph as I could see it as a scum ability.
You're just doing this to spite me, aren't you XDTA wrote:Yeah, so basically he is scum. But mainly because he used a list.-
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Isn't it ironic that Kat is voting for Malt because he isn't scumhunting, when she isn't scumhunting much either?EBWOP: Go read what doombunny's question was, and then apply my post of what malthusis said.
You want to be shot? Odd.Kat wrote:Solution:
1. Lynch malthusis
2. Shoot all scummy players
3. Profit.
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Darn, you caught me with your 1337 scumhunting skillz.Kat wrote:Doombunny, are you scum again this time?
I never said you were tied to malt, I called you scum and called you out for a lack of scumhunting. Your early scrambling amuses me.Kat wrote:You're trying awfully hard to tie me to malt. Is this to help mislynch tomorrow?-
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This^chess wrote:One week from the time someone actually replaces in should be fine.
Anyway, people are right. I should have posted a case on Malt XD
Malt lurks at points and when he does post he just seems to be creating noise than scumhunting or doing anything constructive. A good post of note is also 34 where the only person he has a real case on is Adumbro, his only other scumread is because of gut. As we get further into the game he makes more fluffy posts compared to constructive posts that help town. In post 48 he votes adumbro again for the same reasons as he did in D1, nothing new to support it or anything which just looks like maf trying to pull an easy and lazy mislynch. In post 51 he just throws out Kat's arguement and calls it crap without really defending himself. In 58 he then seems to be trying for town points by saying "I'm not bandwagoning! I'm doing my own thing!" he never really does try to defend himself against Kat, just calls it a poor case (And while I agree, it's still not a good defense)
Anywayz, Malt needs to claim.-
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So Malts faking it because its obvious? Huh?Gandalf wrote:Nothing, other than the fact that if I knew nothing about D&D and was making a fakeclaim for doc, it's almost certainly what I'd use.
Why is this the first I have heard of this theory? Care to expand on it?Malt wrote:Trip Post Edit: Just noting this to add on to me "Katsuki and Adumbro are scumbuddies" theory......
If you flip town and provide good reasoning for your scum/town list then yes, we do care. If you flip scum then I don't care no matter what.Narsis wrote:most people wouldn't really care about my list of scum/town anyway even after i flip town.-
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