1. no town is often accused of using AtE by scum, this is the consensus I have seen in games I have read and in other discussions on site
2. insulting a player is scummy
3. insult is anti-town becauseit is scummy play, there is no need to insult people
4. "But most town aren't pro-town. Even if they intend to be pro-town, most are neutral or antitown. And there is a diffeence between not pro-town, anti-town and scummy, only scummy is vote worthy."
This makes no sense to me
5. "
You can not say that someone is not scum hunting because they are scum hunting you."
But I have proven he wasn't scum hunting me, he if anything was just spaghetti throwing
6. regaridng your question about emp saying "same as yesterday"
I said it isn't good enough because he never gave a valid reason for his votes on me day 1 so it made no sense for him to use that. plus he implied his voting first was somehow scum hunting which is also fail logic
7. you never provided a valid case, that is how I can say you never posted a valid case. Hiding your reasons in walls of text where nobody can see them hurts town, not helps them. the way you post these walls of text actually hurt town because it makes it impossible to respond to them easily. I am having a bitch of a time right now, you are purposely complicating things in hopes people will just not respond to you.
8. "I have already explained why NL is not anti-town. I've also already given you my thoughts on statistics in general, all statistics are WIFOM."
you can give your reasons all you want but saying statistics are WIFOM is actually crap, statistics that can prove something is FACT. Also No lynch is NEVER pro-town because it makes the vote count invalid for comparison later plus it just gives mafia a free kill, the fact that you think NL is acceptable, is anti-town thinking. just to clarify NO LYNCH IS NEVER PRO-TOWN
9. you really don't understand the term active lurking - from wiki "A subset of lurking is the so-called "active lurking", where a player posts in the thread but without making any contribution to the progress of the game. Their posts may be minimal in length, off-topic, or merely parroting what other players have already said" and quite a few people are doing that, I am making my case and emp keeps providing me with more evidence. I can say someone like DB could be accused of active lurking cause he fits into the "parroting"
10. I asked emp specifically if I was L-1, because he seemed so convinced I was scum I fear that even if I claimed he would not believe me, which is anti-town behavior to not be open to the idea of changing his mind, which I don't feel like he would and I still don't feel like he would change his mind about me.
11. emp's directed almost all of his posts at that time towards one person, it is scummy because it seems like he is trying to get that one person on his side, he shoudl be directing it to everyone not just TM
12. I don't understand how a VI can be anti-town when V stands for village, if a person is anti-town than call hm an SI. VI implies that he is town, SI implies he is scum
13. you just proved my point about opinions, everyone has their own but nobody can trust the opinion of anyone else, which is why opinions aren't valid in this game.
14. I don't believe I was arguing that he was first, he was the one saying he was early on. Even if originally he was first, the fact that he came of and went back invalidates his previous positions. his final vote on the wagon is the only one that counts and he was in an opportunistic location on that wagon. plus he was vote hopping back and forth, he just wanted to lynch which ever VI he could, he had no interest in helping town catch scum.
15. I already posted my bullet point case on emp
16. ".He said 90%., He never changed anything, he said that he was 90% sure that he is town, nobody can ever be 100% sure that someone is town unless they are somehow confirmed."
No originally he made a declarative statement that BV was town, he later retracted it to 90% (yeah I said 8 instead of 90%, who really cares about that. The fact that he declared BV as town (without a percentage) is suspicious cause there is only one way he can know that.
17. "He never admitted to being caught."
Well he shoudl is what i am saying
He just changed his reads, which town are able to do.
seems like he is "keeping his options open" and since he accused me of being scum for doing it, that means he shoudl be accused of scum for doing it
18. "He already gave his reads, he just won't give the reasoning behind 3 of them.
The reason why he hasn't given his cases is probably because you keep calling them reads."
Semantics cause it's fucking obvious I want him to post cases, you just proved it. and why are you defending emp? just proves you are his scum buddy to me