ATHF Mafia OVER(roles and whatnot revealed)

[Kcdaspot]

Herro I ish the einstein doooooooooood *hiccups and luaghs* ill be heer to 'elp joo AAAALLL out *hic* first lemme shhhhhhhhhhhober yup *passes out*

(Translation: Hi all i hope to be of great service to you all, I need to do some rereading but I'd appreciate some summaries to help out with that!)

(That said IN TO THE BIN PILE THAT IS THIS THREAD!)

[Kcdaspot]

One more thing: is vibe our lynch or we still waiting on stuff n stuff?\


PrePostEdit: GW: thanks, I'll really need it...

[Kcdaspot]

uncle says one MOAR thing: who did butterfly replace again? I cant tell because he never posted.
need to know because I wanna know if I'm voting or not.

[Kcdaspot]

EBWOP: nvm he didn't replace...

[Kcdaspot]

Early things: This whole debate over post 63 is BS a lot of people are putting words in the guy's mouth. I could be reading it wrong and he could have stated "i mean, do you really think that as scum, i would genuinely be asking that?" in a different post but trying to carefully skim this, I think everything til page 5 is mostly BS... I think.

[Kcdaspot]

SCRATCH THAT! he says it on his wall post early on... reading still...

[Kcdaspot]

Nacho seems to be buddying with fate.... everything else is a mess... ISOing tomorrow

Gee this thread is so messed up it's like I'm in a episode of ATHF!!! WTG GUYS!!!

[Kcdaspot]

.... why has no one thought "if nacho was scum"...

[Kcdaspot]

okay so he says it himself, but @fate: ISO nacho and see if anything comes up. Humor me.

[Kcdaspot]

First on this site...

Many EM games before... got fed up with the pace...

reading iso still about to hit the hay... one more post oughta do it

[Kcdaspot]

EBWOP:

MOD, I SUCK AT SPELLING. HELP PLZ

[Kcdaspot]

Two things make that not a contradiction Fate.

1) we had both MoI and Zdenek willing to hammer
2) GW knew we were on the wrong track and pushed for it.

Fate: i don't know if this makes sense to me..
Mainly GW has not contributed as much as the others... For seacore to back him up is at the least strange... i don't have any other solid leads to go on here so I really don't have a say-so over who's truly scummy or not at this stage... I can only find oddities really...

also skimmed some other ISO's...

A) Vibe. Claim. Now. I'm Seriously considering hammering...
B) VV Has not posted as much as some but when he's posted he's contributed in one way or another...

Thats all for tonight I gotta work tomorrow, luckily not for long I'll post around... say 10? 11?

I'm Central time in the U.S. That's GMT -6 for those w/o brains...

later
~ Dude with a Einstein avi

[Kcdaspot]

onee more thing: I'll read podium more carefully tomorrow since everyone scum-dar goes off around him

That's it, g'nite

[Kcdaspot]

i'm trying to go about this carefully thank you very much.... so much crap going around I have to untangle this string by ever-loving string...

[Kcdaspot]

Reasons as to why I need vibe to claim:
A) 16 posts
B) He's been running defense all game
C) ISO 14 brings up too many questions. More than I care to post... @_@

All-in-all He's done WAAAY less than anyone in this game. I'll take back what I said about hammering, But vibe: all eyes are on you, if you don't claim It will only look worse and worse.

Also, Fate? why are you forcing everyone to claim? I mean sure I AM asking Vibe to claim now but that is because of your emotionally charged BW's. Sure they are based off of fact but usually they are only based on one fact. further, We don't know WHAT roles are being used so it might be too easy just to lie about that... just saying.

One more thing: I blame Fate and podium for making this thread as jacked up as it is.

PrepostEdit: Manga's last two points about podium. O.O noted. thank you manga.

[Kcdaspot]

A proposal to end the Fate/podium war:

Fate: Repost those Questions that pod allegedly neglected to answer. To tell the I would NOT want to reread all of your posts again for 2 simple Questions. just put them up in quote tags, I'm sure that would be acceptable.
Podium: Please answer his questions as CLEAR AND CONCISE AS POSSIBLE. Yeah his tunneling on you might be wrong but no one else knows but you, IF you are indeed town then you have absolutely NOTHING to lose by answering.

Finally:

MOD: I'D LIKE TO ORDER A DEADLINE EXTENSION W/ NO MAYO!

[Kcdaspot]

...

MOD: NVM

[Kcdaspot]

A proposal to end the Fate/podium war:

Fate: Repost those Questions that pod allegedly neglected to answer. To tell the truth I would NOT want to reread all of your posts again for 2 simple questions. Just put them up in quote tags, I'm sure that would be acceptable.
Podium: Please answer his questions as CLEAR AND CONCISE AS POSSIBLE. Yeah his tunneling on you might be wrong but no one else knows but you. IF you are indeed town then you have absolutely NOTHING to lose by answering.

Finally:

MOD: I'D LIKE TO ORDER A DEADLINE EXTENSION W/ NO MAYO!

[Kcdaspot]

that was a EBWOP. ^^^

[Kcdaspot]

Sorry fate, trying to make sense of it all... I'll shut up now lest someone wants me to speak about something... I'm WAY too confused bout this game..

[Kcdaspot]

Fate, I get what you're try to say there I really do. In fact I appreciate the gesture, especially if you have a suitable replacement in mind.

But I decline.

You post WAS a wake up call. The ONLY way to view this thread is NOT but ISOing everyone but to summarize the thread in detail, page-by-page. I Will do that NOW.

[Kcdaspot]

Thank you. I'll be looking forward to your thoughts

This marks the first time fate has been kind to someone in this game. (pun intended)

You're welcome. I've gotten to page three while jotting down notes... hope to have the first half up by 3:30pm here, then work on the rest after say 6:00pm

[Kcdaspot]

Page 1: intro, rules.
RVS:

Seacore > Magna
podium > fate

seacore says "my avatar is not related to this game"

nacho > seacore RVS reason
zinive > vibebox RVS
VV > Fate RVS
fate > seacore rvs/"breadcrumbing" This is where our war began between fate and podium

podium says "what breadcrumbing?"

fate > podium

podium is confused, fate is sure of podium as scum
podium tries to explain
fate's not having it

GW agree's with fate
GW > podium

other notes: seacore wonders why GW does not partake in the RVS
info about how many games players played is exchanged

Summary: podium got himself there. fate was right to attack then, ESPECIALLY about what pod posts next.

Page 2:
GW goes on explaining nacho's post
fate is pleased
podium dismisses arguements about RVS/scum stuff
seacore is in the same boat as podium
vibe joins in the fun
vibe > podium

implosion comes in, states his history,
implosion > seacore

implosion notes vibes appearence in wagon

vibe gets mysterious, "If I just told you, what would your job be in all this?"

implosion in response to vibe "wat?" and argues with seacore
seacore rebuttels to implosion
implosion understands, but is weary of seacore still

vibe: "Noted"
seacore ends tiff with imp now suspects vibe

seacore > vibe

flavor

magna walls.. questions GW, agrees with seacore about no name claiming, info about games, notes "interesting reaction" from seacore regarding RVS, suspects vibe
magna > vibe

seacore explains no discussing massclaims. states standard L-1/willing hammer flip is fine, states that he will not look fake name claims. says he WAS paranoid

podium: BLAH
zinive LAST POST. wants vibe's reason for vote along with imp
mod: cocks
fate is very sure about podium as scum
podium: more blah
seacore: "ignore him and scum hunt"
fate critises seacore for telling podium to scumhunt
podium: MORE blah <== this worries me

Summary page 2: GW helps fate a lot with that explanation early on, Vibe gets all weird and starts attracting trouble, seacore is better at defending actions than podium is.



page 3:
seacore: blank post...?
fate: WTH
seacore: chastises
fate is now very crossed with podium
podium: "If i'm scum then why do i need to try and get a read on your alignment, dumbass?"
fate: THATS MY POINT!
podium: 2 more blah posts clearly designed to get on fate's nerves.
fate: YOU ARE SCUM

GW: responds to GW's questions, supports fate's side v. podium. interesting: "Why would you want to assume that his very first vote in the game was serious when it A) was in obvious direct opposition to something stated by the person he voted and B) it was nothing more than a drawn out version of person who made the same vote before him, who he even points to by stating that he was making it a wagon?"

fate: GW you are correct.
podium: fate's words are nothing, I don't know fate well, blah, wut?, ORLY?
GW: "Except that wasn't that. I believe you knew what he meant all along and simply wanted to paint him in a negative light, perhaps to come back to it later in some BS case you'd try to build.

You were caught doing the above. You were also caught doing the below.

The concern for Seacore is the fact that you came in when the wagon was on Sea, despite it clearly being an RVS wagon that wasn't going to go anywhere and was never intended to. RVS wagons are common tactic for getting out of RVS."
podium: defends actions, he references this post A LOT in the coming pages (will mark with)
VV: asks Magna what his read is on podium
vibe: @vibe: post 65 IS crap all he says are: GW is clear, VV and Zinive isn't (???)
VV: says vibe post is crap, asks mod something
VV > vibe

vibe: "IIoA?" nother crap post really, followed by another one
Magna: Walls: responds to seacore, fate, is as confused to the wagon as seacore is. reads podium; null. helps vibe a little. insults vibe correctly, notes crap posts by vibe
fate: practically shuts the door on podium, still angry.
vibe: detests L-1 play saying "It allows for quicklynching and self-hammering." responds to insult by magna. clarifies. restats reads on GW as town and VV & Zinive as not town. becomes a grammar nazi. warns fate against Jesters.
fate: you're voting him too!
vibe: crap post
Magna: attacks vibe

Summary page 3: fate gets really cross back at page 2 and here as well, podium seems bound and determined to belittle fate, vibe doesn't do much to remove suspicion here,

reads to this point:

Town
fate
GW
magna
VV
seacore
nacho
zinive (for that post)
imp
Zd
vibe
podium
Scum

(I dont include my slot because... well...)


The "" are direct quotes rest are summaries... (???) < i got confused by vibes post here but yeah post 65 IS crap. in the intrest of speeding this up I'll just do the page summaries instead of going on like this...

[Kcdaspot]

EBWOP:

the X > Y are votes where X is who is voting and Y is who is voted.

[Kcdaspot]

Two things make that not a contradiction Fate.

1) we had both MoI and Zdenek willing to hammer
2) GW knew we were on the wrong track and pushed for it.

Fate: i don't know if this makes sense to me..
Mainly GW has not contributed as much as the others... For seacore to back him up is at the least strange... i don't have any other solid leads to go on here so I really don't have a say-so over who's truly scummy or not at this stage... I can only find oddities really...

also skimmed some other ISO's...

A) Vibe. Claim. Now. I'm Seriously considering hammering...
B) VV Has not posted as much as some but when he's posted he's contributed in one way or another...

Thats all for tonight I gotta work tomorrow, luckily not for long I'll post around... say 10? 11?

I'm Central time in the U.S. That's GMT -6 for those w/o brains...

later
~ Dude with a Einstein avi

Why is it strange for seacore to backup GW?

How do you go from

i don't have any other solid leads to go on here so I really don't have a say-so over who's truly scummy or not at this stage

to

A) Vibe. Claim. Now. I'm Seriously considering hammering...

Reasons as to why I need vibe to claim:
A) 16 posts
B) He's been running defense all game
C) ISO 14 brings up too many questions. More than I care to post... @_@

All-in-all He's done WAAAY less than anyone in this game. I'll take back what I said about hammering, But vibe: all eyes are on you, if you don't claim It will only look worse and worse.

Also, Fate? why are you forcing everyone to claim? I mean sure I AM asking Vibe to claim now but that is because of your emotionally charged BW's. Sure they are based off of fact but usually they are only based on one fact. further, We don't know WHAT roles are being used so it might be too easy just to lie about that... just saying.

One more thing: I blame Fate and podium for making this thread as jacked up as it is.

PrepostEdit: Manga's last two points about podium. O.O noted. thank you manga.

[Kcdaspot]

Kcd, we were there
We need your analysis, not a summary.

hmmm

pages 1-3 confirms for me that fate was right because the donkey doesn't do much to help his case, also vibe kept on looking scummier and scummier to me

the reason i couldn't think til now was because fate loves his caps lock.. i saw that instead of his content. I realize that he has been on the right track and basically our supremo scumhunter now. more to come does that help?

Votecount (as of this post)
Deadline is December 7th at 12:34 PM PST
implosion: 1 (VasudeVa) L-6
Seacore: 2 (implosion, podium) L-5
VibeBox: 5 (Fate, GhostWriter, Magna, Nacho, Seacore) L-2
Not Voting: 4 (Kcdaspot, VibeBox, Zdenek, RedCoyote) L-3

[Kcdaspot]

I will be V/LA until Wednesday Dec. 1

Kcd's catchup post is a pile of information instead of analysis. Why don't you tell us what you're thinking? For instance, you've read to page 3. I wasn't in the game until page 10, I replaced in, and the person I replaced in for never posted, so why do you have any read on me at all?

you just gave me something to keep on my mind thank you

I'm also very concerned by your repeated use of post counts as what seem to be major parts of your arguments that people are scum, and the fact that you don't seem to consider the contents of people's posts at all.

I'll rely less on this

[Kcdaspot]

A) nice to see RC posting...
B) I've been going about this the wrong way forever... the simplest way is to list each player and state my opinion of them... like what podium did BUT MORE RIGHT!

first to the most dominate person of the game;

RC

kidding, fate:

To Tell the Truth i DID NOT like your style of play... Caps lock central. It made me have a aversion to your posts. But once i started READING for a change i realized that you don't get pissed for no reason. When you have a good lead you push til it hurts. Not a big fan here of that but gets the job done when it counts. I like the facts that you brought up against podium especially when he did that wall post against seacore.

tl;dr: i mistook you for a spamming idiot and I'm terribly sorry.

TOWN

next; GW:

It's odd that you didn't partake in RVS, yes. but once past that you lay down some solid scumhunting, and was more clear in explaining fate BW on podium. I'll call you fate translator number 1. also you help build the case vs. vibe and in a well put manner. also a good mason claim puts you in good graces.

TOWN

implosion:

you seem a little quick to vote seacore, but are one of the first to notice vibe. you are also a very active scumhunter, and your validity is multiplied tenfold with you uncc'd mason claim.

TOWN

Magna:

does not post much but when he does he has nothing but contribution, and good ones at that.. is one of the case makers for the vibe BW... though i wish there was more content about podium here.

TOWN

Nacho:

to be frank I don't like your sheeping. he didn't really start digging til ISO 10 brings up some good points about podium.. questions other people's play as well. somewhat immature but still makes good points later posts seem odd... but all in all

TOWN

...for now (sheep)

ON to everyones FAVORITE scum;

fate

i mean podium:

Posts alot but didn't have much content early, really was bad toward fate, made several bad arguments mainly ignored or dismissed fate's case altogether. then starts making sense (while still ignoring fate) suspects GW, seacore, makes more sense then less sense. Podium you fail to address your many cases and either A) ignore them, B) TWIST them, or C) DISMISS THEM AS CASES.. you're going down today or d2 weather you like it or not... either way, BE BETTER AT CASE DEFENDING!

SCUM

RC:

POST MORE DAMMIT, the analyze post is a start but without ANYTHING to go on, I can't get a read!

NULL

Seacore:

the subject of the war betwixt fate and podium. you handle implosion well giving good reasons for him. has strong words but wagon hops? and doesn't scum hunt much...

NULL

with some warning flags

VV:

does not scum hunt really and he gets on the wrong track and gets called scum.. tries to defend podium a bit. suspects magna. I need to see more opinions about other players from you

NULL

Vibe:

gets mysterious then really immature, says this is his only game but as someone else said why not read into other people when you got the time? does NOT defend well against cases as a result. his wall posts make little sense AND they are a chore to read... dude lets get some analyzing done please? otherwise into the pit.

SCUM

finally, ZD:

joins late but bring good arguments to the party. keeps up with the posting and really does well in helping the hunt. I owe some apologies for not being direct with you. sorry a thousand times

TOWN

I hope this clears up everything. I'm terribly sorry for any scummy activity up til this post. I hope this answers some Q's about me. and i hope for a game full of win!

~ dood with a brain (had lost it, but now has found it)

[Kcdaspot]

Town
fate
GW
magna
VV
seacore
nacho
zinive (for that post)
imp
Zd
vibe
podium
Scum

Shouldn't the two claimed masons be on top mate?

^^ that post was inaccurate, by that i mean mine. sorry.

[Kcdaspot]

I realize that he has been on the right track and basically our supremo scumhunter now.

Except that he wasn't, and nearly everyone else has said that his case on me wasn't very substantial.

I'm listening... who and where?

[Kcdaspot]

gee thnx nacho

[Kcdaspot]

first to seacore:

@kcd, there's a lot of 'placation' in that summary post. I'm not sure yet whether it's scummy placation or new-to-the-site placation. You've done little more than repeat things that people have said, but you also had 25 pages to go through.

kay

Day 3 we'll see how you go. Where is Vibe with his claim?

All right and good point on vibe

VIBE GET YOURSELF IN HERE AN START EXPLANING STUFF! KAY THANX!

@ magna: A) good flavor, made me lol B) I'll give you the point about my contradiction... at the jump I said I did not like the sheeping and pointed it may be scummy, but after a more careful read through he backs up his sheeping for the better bit so i'm forced to to make THAT call in my catch up post, Still noting the sheeping. I can try to elaborate better if needed but, that is basically my thought process til then

now to podium (hoo boy):

First of all, props to the new guys for getting caught up in this big game.

Thank you

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

GW:

It's odd that you didn't partake in RVS, yes. but once past that you lay down some solid scumhunting, and was more clear in explaining fate BW on podium. I'll call you fate translator number 1.

FYI: GW's case on me was different than fate's. In other words, he didn't really explain fate's case.

NOPE. He does Very clearly in his ISO 2 and coutinues to affirm fate's case.

Nacho:

he didn't really start digging til ISO 10 brings up some good points about podium..

FYI: What he said in ISO 10 was completely unrelated to anything we were discussing. What happened was he mixed up two separate arguments. I tried to get him to understand this, but he wouldn't listen and/or couldn't understand what i was talking about.

STRIKE 2He backs up GW. VERY CLEARLY.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

podium:

Posts alot but didn't have much content early, really was bad toward fate, made several bad arguments mainly ignored or dismissed fate's case altogether. then starts making sense (while still ignoring fate) suspects GW, seacore, makes more sense then less sense. Podium you fail to address your many cases and either A) ignore them, B) TWIST them, or C) DISMISS THEM AS CASES.. you're going down today or d2 weather you like it or not... either way, BE BETTER AT CASE DEFENDING!

KC, i will give you benefit of the doubt with a lot of this summary stuff, because you are having to process all of it at once in a short time. But you're going to have to give me some examples of what you mean, instead of making these generalized statements. Generalized statements sound scummy.

What do you mean by 'you didn't address your many cases'? I'm pretty sure i addressed all of them.

HE'D BE BATTING A THOUSAND IF THE OBJECT OF THE GAME WASN'T HITTING THE BALL It begins here.

Where did i ignore and/or twist any cases?

IGNORAN TWISTAN

I may have 'dismissed' a case on me after discussing it (if you are talking about me saying something like 'i dont think that's a substantive case')... but what's scummy about that?

SCUMMAN

What do you mean by 'you need to be better at defending cases'? The GW/Fate cases were based around whether or not i really knew Fate was joking... there's not much more i can really say besides that i didn't. However, i did engage in much more discourse about those cases. Seacore made a case about my reactions to the other cases, and i feel i defended it very well.

...and BTW, i did fight off most of the cases on me successfully... if that's not defending 'well', then i dont know what is.

Then you probably don't

More examples of twisting/dismissing/ignoring

ISO 50
ISO 51
ISO 54
ISO 60
ISO 70
ISO 83
ISO 87 < Thats just wrong.

bout does it really

[Kcdaspot]

EBWOP:

@ seacore: i need to flesh that out don't I? I can't be expected to give GREAT feed back but as i go back and forth through the thread I'll see what else comes up all right?

MOD: I MESSED UP A BOLD TAG IN THAT POST NEED SOME HELP PLZ!

[Kcdaspot]

O yeah i better address this before i get called on it...

What do you mean by 'you need to be better at defending cases'? The GW/Fate cases were based around whether or not i really knew Fate was joking... there's not much more i can really say besides that i didn't. However, i did engage in much more discourse about those cases. Seacore made a case about my reactions to the other cases, and i feel i defended it very well.

Here's why: they don't. they simply get annoyed with you, or simply noticed VB being dumb

FOr GW: ISO 23
This isn't fate disregarding his case it's him agreeing you make a point
He comes back to you here

any others?

[Kcdaspot]

If you want to say that i should have answered fates last question, then you are welcome to that opinion. on the other hand, i think several others have supported my decision. but me not answering ONE question doesn't magically erase the volumes of text i wrote discussing everything else.

I DO want you to answer fate's question. Sooner or later you're going to. I'm keeping you at

SCUM

AND THAT'S FINAL.

[Kcdaspot]

MFW I LINKED IT TO YOU! They simply found MIRACULOUSLY someone scummier. I gotten all i can get out there and I can't get you to say a STRAIGHT FRICKIN ANSWER! It's like talking to a... *looks at pod's avi* well... I've tried to explain the case as best I can. for now I'm going to keep my read RIGHT Where it is. I just don't buy enough of it.

I promise to keep looking over the thread as the game continues and as it does and you start making more sense to me then I can start reading you deferentially.

Simply you defended against the initial attack very poorly, I'm not sure if I'm yet ready to forgive that. Fair?

[Kcdaspot]

*sigh* said my piece.. bedtime... BTW i'll be able to read and short-reply in the mornings, school, ill be able to properly reply at noon

g'nite

[Kcdaspot]

One thing that bugs me about you podium... You come off as smug more often than not. You always have to have the last say... one reason I don't buy it...

No I don't expect you to NOT answer your critics but when you make it well "I'm the final authority, I'm always right..." it's too confusing when we have two of those here...

I'd just rather you break down your thought process more... We are all here to do one thing: catch mafia. Please be more.... not-smug? in the future.. It'll help me decide whos who.

[Kcdaspot]

I'm not accusing you anymore!!! I'm trying to get you to calm down!! More over why did you defend against that? you could've said "that's my playstyle" or "Sorry, I'll be more less snobbish, if that's what you think of me" but no. You defend it like it's a attack. WHY?

IGMEOY: podium

Not everything I say about you is going to be a attack. THAT was a request.

[Kcdaspot]

either way podium why can't you just acknowledge the question and politely answer it? this is about me wanting you to take just a little bit of your ego out... that's all.

I should vote here, but being i don't wanna be the hammer and i don't like podium i'll just vote him.
A) he has no one on him so he shouldn't whine too much I hope
B) I still have my gripes about his play but seeing that we won't come to an agreement today I'll just lay my vote there

P.S. If you do become in danger of being lynched today and I DO feel that you haven't be rightly givin a chance to defend I WILL unvote you but due to the odds of ever being in that scenario are high mainly because of vibe. is this OK?

also: I'll promise to look over your ISO many times so that way I'll be more informed when the times comes to choose. In other words: I promise to CAREFULLY CHECK if you really did make a probable case in the mean time.

fair? (yes or no will suffice)

[Kcdaspot]

VOTE: podium

[Kcdaspot]

also will switch when needed to hammer but for now I'll sleep and carefully look at podiums ISO tomorrow

[Kcdaspot]

SCUM

RC:

POST MORE DAMMIT, the analyze post is a start but without ANYTHING to go on, I can't get a read!

Wait, you say you can't get a read on my slot but I'm under the label of "SCUM"? Please explain.

My read is below the player not above. I have the NULL read on you

---

One thing that bugs me about you podium... You come off as smug more often than not. You always have to have the last say... one reason I don't buy it...

No I don't expect you to NOT answer your critics but when you make it well "I'm the final authority, I'm always right..." it's too confusing when we have two of those here...

And does this personality trait make him more likely to be scum? podium, and God bless him for having put up with this for as long as he has, is constantly responding to everyone, yet it always seems like that's never enough. It's getting to the point where we have to get posts about how he cannot post fast enough to answer everyone else. It's a wonder players like MoI and Nacho don't seem to get it. No one is even voting this guy, yet there's this constant back and forth with him as though he constantly needs to be lectured to or addressed or some other such nonsense.

If he takes out the aforementioned smugness, it would be easier to figure out if hes town.

---

@podium : THANK YOU.

[Kcdaspot]

I like that this game isn't very active... /sarcasm

[Kcdaspot]

@magna: I dont want to bring a nend to the day unless people want me to and as for podium.... gaaaaaaahh

UNVOTE:

asking permission... I might as well have waved a white flag THEN

[Kcdaspot]

lulz seacore: i read your 660 in your avi's voice.

[Kcdaspot]

MY WORD! PODIUM TRIPLE POSTED!!! DAYKILL HEEEEEEEM!!! (lol)

[Kcdaspot]

dammit vibe get in here. i dont wanna post uselessness again.

[Kcdaspot]

I really had NOT anything worthwhile to say... hoo boy


if yall want me to I could hammer and bring a end to this madness... I'm getting what I deserve for replacing in 26 pages in... a crow feast...

[Kcdaspot]

I think a lot have there questions about Magna, problem being 1) do you honestly think that enough people would agree to lynching him, let alone coming into the thread and reading anything else for this D1? 2) that case you link us to is all the way back on page 14.. do you have anything else specific from then til now pointing to him as scum?

[Kcdaspot]

It isn't a 'horrible justification'... the question you asked me was COMPLETELY unrelated to what i meant with the quote. The only reason you asked me the question was because of the quote. Therefore if i explain that the quote didnt mean what you thought it did, it's natural to assume that the question would be moot. Dont act like this is a black and white situation where you point blank asked me a question and i didnt answer you... there are variables here.

You asked me about my opinion of Imp/GW mason connection based on what i said in that quote, but that quote obviously wasn't pertaining to that connection. I didn't answer it because it was irrelevant to the quote context -- not because i was deflecting.

Now... i guess you want to ask my opinion of the Imp/GW mason connection. I haven't examined their posts in that regard, but i currently don't really doubt their story. While i dont think what GW did was smart/correct, the pieces fit. If that's what you are asking.

These read WIFOMish to me...

[Kcdaspot]

also magna:

Why are you relying on metas for reads? theres enough info in thread to say who's who. all we really need to do is read really...

[Kcdaspot]

ever heard of Epicmafia.com? It's the idiots guide to mafia. Meaning it's 100% full of idiot. switching from that pace to this one is probably the best reason for may 3 pages of posts. EM taught me impatience. I'm relearning patience here... the hard way

[Kcdaspot]

If there is enough info in the thread to say ‘who’s who’ why do you keep saying you don’t have anything to say? Shouldn’t you have something at all to say if there is sufficient info?

You're the vet not me... yeah I'm going to pull the noob card here, what are you gonna do about it?

[Kcdaspot]

right well you're trying to hide your crap through wall-posts. yes I did read them for myself and you do try to move the day along... in only 2 points out of ALL your posts. the rest? defensive BS and filler. I think your trying to bog the day down further with these. Hasn't there been enough confusion? why can't you keep you point simple and plain to see for all? I nor, at this point, anyone else wants to fight through wall-post after freaking wall-post just to get your point. 1,000,000 words can be summed up in 50 if you'd actually try.

VOTE: MAGNA

get that wall post IIoA BS out of here, and make a SIMPLE case. I came here to play game, not read a book.

inb4:

you want examples of your IIoA?

So you pointed out he was online. If he had come back he got Town points but if he didn’t it wasn’t scummy? So you were just pressuring for Town reads? I'd say I was confused about your motivation in that post but it's now crystal clear ... it was just a way to active lurk.

How long exactly were we supposed to wait with baited breath?

Seacore take a quick gander through the ATHF and tell me if you REALLY think that any characters really qualify as ‘Villans’

The Moonities are basically juvenile delinquents. The Plutonians are basically morons. Most of the characters are more harmless than evil.

Hell their Landlord I would classify as more evil than anyone else off the top of my head.

what do the above statements do for your case against, hell, ANYONE? useless banter in a wall post doesn't make friendly with me buddy.

[Kcdaspot]

^^ keep it claen VV and you'll hear no complaint from me.

[Kcdaspot]

WARNING: THE FOLLOWING IS FILLER:

Hey Zdenek good to see ya

END FILLER.

Good points about the role cop. True about VV. but because I don't repeat myself more, I'll stop here.

[Kcdaspot]

^^^ he makes i good point... if he dosen't come back it's HIS loss. enough of the BS magna would be a better D2 lynch if anything.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: VIBE

voting because I won't be the hammer. WATCH ME CATCH FLAK FOR THIS ONE FOLKS!!! :L

[Kcdaspot]

:/ ....

UNVOTE:
VOTE: MoI

you got til sunday evening...

[Kcdaspot]

sorry i've been impatient as of late... i really gotta calm down...

[Kcdaspot]

UNVOTE:

I just realized podium... you never completly answered my ISO 31

my responses to you were in bold within the quote. one of the quote tags is busted thoo... I also do this in my ISO 42 for RC.

mod: srsly help me out on that bold tag...

[Kcdaspot]

I'm okay with this...

VOTE: MoI

wanted to complete the picture for D1... lets see how it goes on later days

[Kcdaspot]

Kcda, I'm very uncomfortable with your unwillingness to stick to a position.

Hey right now I'm stickin here.. no worries man.

[Kcdaspot]

.... wait how does this work then? is there anyone informed of people's alignment/role?

[Kcdaspot]

oh and hi nancy business as usual huh?

[Kcdaspot]

Nancy has A point though

VOTE: chkflip

[Kcdaspot]

AS long as you don't encur the wrath of Nancy im cool but still something wrong here... imp's and GW's claims are suddenly moot, with no flip it's harder to trust claims... assumeing you activate your power we'll only have 2 clears not 4. 1 at most because of your cross clear theory.

long story short. im less inclined to believe imp's and GW's claims because of the no flip.

[Kcdaspot]

cross kill I meant..

Thoo I admit they ARE uncc'd, but mason's? that's kinda convenient.

[Kcdaspot]

hmm

I bet there is a role blocking flips. we find out who it is we lynch them we can probably see whats going on..

[Kcdaspot]

hmmmm this makes about as much sense as the show... GREAT JOB TRIPOD!!

[Kcdaspot]

^^ why you should never drink in the morning...

[Kcdaspot]

again.. i don't know how useful claims are now that there is no flip. back in EM you could trust a claim with no reveal because of the pace. here the tempo is much more calmed down giving scum a good amount of time to make a solid fakeclaim.. Nancy (srsly I'm only calling you that because god mod told me to) how credible are claims now that there is no reveal? self proclaimed godly scum hunter to novice.

[Kcdaspot]

IF {hammer = wrong}
THEN {buttfucked up the arse}
ELSE {SUN SHINE AND RAINBOWS}

with people like

fate

Nancy in here to catch heat for seemingly scummy play is bad news. I don't want to be a bad player.

This is the first game I've EVER gotten into on this site. I have no alts. I've never play forum mafia before this game.

also with chk's claim

UNVOTE:

[Kcdaspot]

^^^ he makes i good point... if he dosen't come back it's HIS loss. enough of the BS magna would be a better D2 lynch if anything.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: VIBE

voting because I won't be the hammer. WATCH ME CATCH FLAK FOR THIS ONE FOLKS!!! :L

also i so freaking called it.

I can't say much more than that I read over vibe's iso up till then. and i agreed with RC with nothing more to add. if I did i'd probably be repeating what others been saying.

[Kcdaspot]

Okay, I am George Lowe, role impersonator.

I asked the mod what my role did, and he told me that he'd never heard of the role before, so I haven't tried it.

why would a role impersonator help town out? was gorge lowe even in the show?

also do I need to claim? just checking...

[Kcdaspot]

WHY DA FRICK ARE YOU ALL IN MY POOL? I DON"T GIVE A DAMN IF I DO ANNOY YOU! GET THE FRICK OUT OF MY POOL!


AND WHO DA HELL TOOK MY PANTS?!?!?

(I'm Carl, Hated Townie. I recived flavor that says my sweatpants were stolen last night)

HANG ON... if it was my sweatpants that was stolen... flavor cop claim lie?

[Kcdaspot]

well why my sweatpants be gone when implosion got an onion? also noting the he claimed he got a onion AFTER you claimed...

VOTE: Imp

Explain that BS will you?

[Kcdaspot]

kay...

UNVOTE:

I so read that wrong my apologies

[Kcdaspot]

Good god this game is messed up.

My role specifies me being a mason. It does not blatantly specify me being a flavor cop. I am, however, indeed a flavor cop. I investigated chkflip and saw an onion. So I can confirm that he's Willie Nelson (who btw kept like 100 corpses in his attic, I watched that episode after getting my result PM).

Also oh god Nancy scumslipped

YOU DIE WITH TOWN.

- You're talking about this post, right? He's talking about getting an onion i.e. his flavor when he investigated me. He simply confirmed that I'm Willie Nelson, that's all.

---

- Another side note: I'll be using this helmet I got tonight, so I won't be able to steal anything. Though, from what podium said, could this possibly be podium's item I have? If so, why would seacore have it? The only two possibilities I can think of are a framer scumrole or seacore!scum. I've seen a reviver!scum before, so his role doesn't particularly surprise me.

VOTE: Seacore

- Please explain?

Seacore proved his role. he revived pod

[Kcdaspot]

I unvoted chkflip.... and when somebody else votes me and I take a early exit, I just wanna say I TOLD YOU GUYS.

[Kcdaspot]

NO. I've stated this before. This was the very first mafia game that I signed up for on this site. I am not a experienced scummer.

[Kcdaspot]

scratch the part about me saying it before I srsly thought I posted something to that effect earlier...

[Kcdaspot]

WELL SCREW YOU GUYS IM OUTTA HERE

AND YOU ALL CAN THANK ZDENEK FOR THE HAMMER!!!

[Kcdaspot]

ffs really ZD wtg

Way. To. Go.

[Kcdaspot]

im at l-1

I die now...

[Kcdaspot]

dont you have a vote on me?

[Kcdaspot]

Did you unlock this?

Untrod You tried your best and I don't blame you much, but some things could have been avoided.

I wouldn't mind playing in a future game of yours but you gotta be on top of things.

[Kcdaspot]

cross kill I meant..

Thoo I admit they ARE uncc'd, but mason's? that's kinda convenient.

looking back on other games...

OH MY GOD...

I Called this!

not really >.>