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It's not that you're stupid, it's that you're burdened by extra knowledge and have trouble evaluating it on its own merits.
P.S. your conviction that Fate is scum on page 3 isn't helping things. Goddammit Jack, I'm going to be hella annoyed at you when this game's over if you're not Uite's partner.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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NO. We're from the lands of windmills and liberalism, not the land of no history.don_johnson wrote:edit: dutch? is that the land of fries and chocolate?Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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I'm the EU, vanilla.
We're clearly missingsomething. No nightkills + cop is just wrong. But we don't need to know what's going on to know Jack would make a good lynch.
P.S. don, you're a bit slow on the uptake here.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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Dekes, you're the obvious choice because of process of elimination. Fate is obvtown; don_johnson helped with the Uite-lynch and has a credible claim.
I think my Zangvote makes much more sense if you take into account that I came into this game expecting a C9-type set-up, not whatever freak of nature this set-up is. There's a preponderance of evidence now that we're in a weird set-up, but at the time there was nothing to tip me off. The notion that a non-sane cop would be balanced by a lack of nightkill is not something that occured to me.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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Ok, so I didn't miss anything; only Dekes digging his grave deeper. Dudes, Dekes is totes scum. No sane townie would be voting Fate; the post-Jack celebration posts alone should be sufficient. Add to that who voted for Uite and who didn't and voila: scum on a platter.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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Questions for D_J:
1. What the hell were you on about in Post 375?
2. What did you think of Dekes' attack on Fate? You never commented on it at the time. Did you agree with Dekes' assessment that Fate could've faked the post-Jack celebrations?Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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Then what were you WOWing over? The only one of those which can be considered new is a bit of inactivity, which is fully explained by out-of-game factors; and I don't think I've been lurking apart from that. I don't see how the mason gambit thing is supposed to be scummy. And I like how you say "Jack's points" since it is very revealing - although Jack's case has 1), 2), and 3) in it, those are just used to indicate a timeline and it's just the one point he made. I didn't notice this mistake until I re-read Jack's post but this is a clear sign you're just piggybacking off of Jack.don_johnson wrote:you have been lurking the entire game. you accepted the "mason" gambit willingly. jack's points against you are valid. etc.
Then why vote for me?don_johnson wrote:i thought it was dekes scum trying to survive.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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Nopes. Answer the fucking questions.don_johnson wrote:evidence is irrelevant.
It's the difference between you remembering that he said something and you remembering what he said - a pretty fucking critical distinction.don_johnson wrote:jack/'s points, jack's point, same difference.
I suspect you had extra knowledge of some kind - I'm not ruling out anything in this set-up.don_johnson wrote:do you really think i fakeclaimed cop on day 2 with a guilty?
Then why did it take you so long?don_johnson wrote:either you are scum, or fate is scum. fate not hammering me makes him town. which means you are scum. its relatively simple logic.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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You failed to answer both the explicit question in "Then what were you WOWing over?" and the implicit question in "I don't see how the mason gambit thing is supposed to be scummy.".don_johnson wrote:i answered the question.
Yeah, that's not what townies do - hence the evasiveness of your first answer.don_johnson wrote:yup. i remember he said something that made sense. deal with it.
I see I got my wires crossed at some point and your previous answer didn't make any sense. Why did you you vote for me over Dekes on page 16?don_johnson wrote:i explained that too. are you even reading? if you recall, i voted you like... yesterfuckinday.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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My personal guess for the set-up is that your group had extra information of some sorts like an elaborate fake claim which ties in with a town role (Bible Verse Mafia had an SK with this) or just simply the entire set-up. You could've alternatively had a more pro-active information gathering role such as role cop. Those both sound fairly balanced to me (although I'd assume Zang was insane if the mafia did know the entire set-up) whereas nightless 7p with 2 paranoid cops does not; if you posit, as d_j seems to do, that the FSB-CIA link provides strong evidence for d_j being town, then this game is insanely balanced: scum need to either have a member look the towniest of all or scum need to have the 2nd and 3rd towniest-looking members. Sure, you might think the paranoid cops give the scum a free mislynch, but cops have a nasty habit of investigating scummy players anyway (e.g. Zang would've almost certainly been lynched before endgame) and I don't think the mislynch happens without one of the cops investigating the other one. Theremustbe something more to this set-up and d_j's convenient cop claim strikes me as the best place to look (also: the only place to look).Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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You do realise there's no way you can add 2 masons to a 7p game and expect it to remain balanced-looking, right? Carrying it through was never viable; the fact that Fate claimed before me is irrelevant.
And yes, he was obvtown (which isn't the same as cleared). If you didn't see it, that's your loss. His bout of voting for me was weird, yes, but that happened way after and also post-post-Jack celebrations.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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For fun and reactions.don_johnson wrote:then why go with the claim?
Har har. Now respond to it.don_johnson wrote:according to you, evidence is relevant. you can't have it both ways.
Zang only did it prior to Uite's flip; Jack accused most people and his suspicion of Fate seems to last all of one's post; Dekes was obviously high.don_johnson wrote:every town member has accused fate of being scum.
1) It's Fate.don_johnson wrote:also, you still can't explain why his jump off your wagon didn't make you the least bit suspicious.
2) Too much suggested he was town for it to matter.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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