Mini 1148 -- Spare Me Mafia (Game Over)

[vezokpiraka]

I don't think there are more than one scum team in a mini game. Maybe a SK but even that with limited shots.

Let's see who this Spare mechanic works.

[vezokpiraka]

I actually agree with that chess.

It will help.

BUT REMEMBER WE DO THIS BY SPARING THEN WAITING FOR VC THEN UNVOTING. IF WE ARE ALL VOTING DAY ENDS. Or so I think it works.

[vezokpiraka]

What?

It's like a mass claim where we find out who is scum.
I am sure that is a bad thing. I was sarcastic if it isn't obvious.

[vezokpiraka]

Let's Roll.

[vezokpiraka]

Where is nacho and freewill?

Come here and post something useful.

[vezokpiraka]

WTF is wrong with you people?

You made three pages of garbage. Fate come here and post good stuff.

[vezokpiraka]

Spare Fate

Why didn't I do this before?

[vezokpiraka]

Buddy come and spare me for God's sake.

[vezokpiraka]

Seriously WTF did I do to get so much town cred? I really have to know so I can do that when I am scum.

I stopped reading posts made by Dupe and Umbrage. Too much shit talk.

[vezokpiraka]

Save Nacho or I will switch to him.

I need my buddy.

[vezokpiraka]

This is for Ck3

[vezokpiraka]

Fate? Buddying to someone as scum?

Are you sane umbrage?

[vezokpiraka]

Oh I'm buddying Fate?

I wonder why. Wait I am also Buddying to nacho. That means she is scum to right?

Umrage you're such an idiot you should just shut up.

[vezokpiraka]

I'm town idiots.

Go search another place.

[vezokpiraka]

I'm not trying cause I am confirmed town.

Are you stupid Umbrage or scum?

[vezokpiraka]

@Nacho: Is anyone sparring you?

Umbrage you are a shit head. I think the entire game figured out why I am town but you are just stupid.

[vezokpiraka]

Actually I'm confirmed town because of nacho. But you are too much of a douche to read the thread.

[vezokpiraka]

@Fate: If I am confirmed and Useful I'll attract NKes like a lamp attracts flies.

[vezokpiraka]

Hm...

@ Internet Stranger: Do you know of any way we can learn of your investigation result if you are killed tonight?

ROLEFISHING.

Right. Because having a dead cop with no means of data retrieval is a good thing. How in the world did you figure that's what scum would say?

Klazam really has to go.

[vezokpiraka]

I'm here. Tired of all this yelling and nothing .

[vezokpiraka]

RIGHT. Because scum should be able to get saved even if they don't have spare votes. Chesskid are you a psychotic crisis?

ITT Freewill hasn't heard of sarcasm.

[vezokpiraka]

Don't worry. You're not flipping town.

[vezokpiraka]

unspare Fate
Spare nacho

I'm sorry Fate. But nacho is my buddy. I can't let him die.

[vezokpiraka]

I'm not switching my vote from nacho.

Are you crazy??? I don't want to lose my buddy.

[vezokpiraka]

Deadline is in 6 hours.

Klazam spare protoss.

Tony spare someone else. Like Fate or someone.
Umbrage unspare freewil and save klazam after he spares protoss.

[vezokpiraka]

Why not?

That's what you said the whole day. If klazam unspares chesskid you're going to spare klazam.

Are you backtracking scum umbrage?

IS unspare umbrage.

[vezokpiraka]

People who say fishy needs a bullet: Are you CRAZY? DO YOU WORK WITH HAZARDOUS MATERIALS THAT MAY AFFECT YOUR THINKING CAPABILITIES?

Seriously. How the fuck could that be a scum role?

If it wasn't already biassed in favor of scum the mod gave them someone that can't be lynched.

I find myself agreeing with Umbrage. And that shows how much people are thinking in this game

[vezokpiraka]

How the fuck is Fishy scum?

Are you insane? Seriously.

[vezokpiraka]

spare nacho

I'm still town guys.

Let's use PoE and find the scums.

IS, me and nacho are confirmed town. Fishy is town.

The scum are in this pool: {Apok, Duplicity, Umbrage,tony montana}

I think duplicity is scum. So he is dying today. The second one is either apok or tony. I can't see umbrage being the last scum.

In two days this game shall be over. Also fuck the retard who didn't spare Fate.

Also tell us your investigation please IS. We can reduce the PoE field.

[vezokpiraka]

What did I tell you?

The four persons who aren't confirmed are now trying to paint as scum.

Also for anyone dumb enough that didn't understand why I am confirmed town. I am MASONS with nacho. Breadcrumbed since my first post I think. Did any of you really pay attention?

[vezokpiraka]

We breadcrumbed masons by picking a two word phrase form some site and posting it. Mine was in the second post. I think nacho's was in the first.

We didn't talk much at all in the QT. As you can see nacho isn't too active.

Nacho saved mask because freewill was already sparing me. When no one was sparing me she started sparing me and vice versa.

I don't want to answer about the additional powers question.

[vezokpiraka]

If you are going to lynch either of us I'm going to so laugh for the stupidity of this town at the end.

[vezokpiraka]

WE FUCKING SAVED EACH OTHER. I ALWAYS SAID WE WERE BUDDIES? WTF DO YOU WANT ? A SCREEN SHOT?

[vezokpiraka]

If we are town no big loss?

Do you know how to play this game Umbrage?

[vezokpiraka]

I don't think you guys understand.

You can't kill us because we will cross spare to infinity. If we were scum don't you think the game should have ended right now?
I suggest sparing everyone who is not umbrage, apok, duplicity or tony.

The way tomorrow you have me , nacho, IS and fishy at the end.

I and nacho are confirmed. You can go and figure out whatever you want but there is no sane mod that would put two scums that can only be nightkilled.
Is is a rolecop. There is no way he is lying about that.
Fishy is town. You can't kill a scum treestump.

Tomorrow if either of us die it's LyLo with three persons. Fishy confirmed, me, or nacho confirmed( because the scum can only kill us) and IS who is going to be unconfirmed.

Then the game ends. Simple enough plan for you dumbfucks to respect?

[vezokpiraka]

Ah.

Then we kill duplicity and tony, and tomorrow umbrage and apok.

[vezokpiraka]

You don't get it do you?

You can't kill us. Our vig is dead. Only scum will shoot us.

If any of us die the other is confirmed. That means scum will never kill us. The means you guys can't kill us.

Give IS two votes and let him investigate us. Maybe that way oyu'll understand we are fucking masons and not scums.

[vezokpiraka]

I say tony should go too.

[vezokpiraka]

You're just wasting the investigation.

You can't kill us so you have to get that we are actually town.

I have no problem becoming more confirmed than I am, but the investigation is wasted. Do as you want though.

[vezokpiraka]

As you can see nothing prevents us from cross sparing. If we were scum there should have been something to prevent this, ergo we are not scum. Ergo we are town

[vezokpiraka]

Is needs a second vote because we need to kill tow people today.

Also I won't do with the plan. I want to live till the end. If I am not alive at the end my subconscius doesn't think that we won.

Also if you kill one of either me or nacho scum kills the other at night. Fishy is treestump so he is also BP. Now go make another plan that can't kill me.

[vezokpiraka]

We aren't dying. We are town.

We don't care if you don't believe us. There is nothing you can do to kill us.

You can trust us or argue with us. The problem is: You can't kill us.

[vezokpiraka]

Wait! What?

Dupe: How do you know scum know what keeps them from cross sparing?

[vezokpiraka]

Dupe : Your scum. That's why you don't make sense as town.

[vezokpiraka]

If we give IS and investigation we have to kill two guys.

[vezokpiraka]

Morning, and yes.
I explained my reasoning for doing so.

So if town loses this game due to selective re-reading you'll be comfortable openely taking responsibility and admitting to stupidity?

Don't worry. Town won't lose. Lynching scum you would make us win. You should try playing like town sometimes. It helps you win as scum you know?

[vezokpiraka]

I'm Wining. Duh.

You are scum and losing.

[vezokpiraka]

Nacho's first post makes me think she's town.

Nearly your entire ISO makes me think you're scum.

[vezokpiraka]

Ok.
Fishy is town. If you can't see how an unkillable scum breaks the game you should stop playing.
IS is likely town. He can still be scum but from his post I think he is town.
Umbrage rages as town more often than as scum. He is town.
Tony is null.

Also I like how you let out Apok. That's your scumbuddy or what?

[vezokpiraka]

WOW.

The amount of sheer stupidity emanating from your posts is incredible umbrage.
If I and dupe die and none of us flips scum then you shoot someone you THINK is scum and the scum shoot either you or a townie you lose right there.

If we kill dupe today, vig whoever you want tomorrow and the scum kill someone if we don't get one of the scums it's GG right there. Seriously. You should only shoot tonight if Dupe flips scum. Otherwise you'll cost us the game.

[vezokpiraka]

WOW.
I have no idea why is Umbrage doing that. Seriously, if that is not a bluff I have no idea what he wants or why he claimed now.

[vezokpiraka]

Umbrage: I am willing to sacrifice myself today if and only if you spare all other persons and you don't vig.

It's the only way you aren't going to lose us the game like a dumb fuck you are. Even if I am certain Dupe will flip scum.

Also there is still one way to get the scums.

If we let Dupe and tony die today and umbrage vigs apok there is no way we don't get at least one scum. Then if the game is not over we kill IS.
Also fishy is conf town. There is no way we have a scum that can't be killed.

We have two plans:

Plan A

I die, umbrage vigs no one. Nacho is conf tomorrow or dead. IS has an investigation for us. Either way it's a win-win.

Plan B

We don't spare dupe and tony, then Umbrage shoots apok. If the game doesn't end we kill IS and we win.

Obviously I want to use plan B more then plan A but if Umbrage will not understand how foolish is his move we are going to use plan A.

[vezokpiraka]

Umbrage. We either stick to plan A or plan B.

If you don't we lose. That's simple right?

So chose what you are going to do and stick to the plan.

[vezokpiraka]

If you and Duplicity die and THROUGH SOME MIRACLE flip town, I will kill Apok, Tony, whoever the hell you want. Then, with IS' role, a town victory is practically guaranteed.

When I die and flip town will you promise to shoot who G and I decide upon, no questions asked. If so then I have no problem dying today.

Fishy is town. Treestump is a town role. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I see NO evidence that he does not count for endgame purposes.

Lets look at a scenario. Three way lylo. Mafia, Town Fishy and Townie #2.
Mafia no spares. Fishy can't spare, doesn't have the ability to do so. Townie #2 can either spare Town Fishy or the mafia. Regardless of which occur mafia win.

The same happens with Two mafia, two towns and fishy.

[vezokpiraka]

Fishy can't be killed. Are you even reading?

[vezokpiraka]

He's a god damn treestump.

Tree stumps can't be lynched or NKed.

[vezokpiraka]

If everyone agrees with plan B that's cool but umbrage is the one who needs to say he agrees with that.

[vezokpiraka]

I'm becoming increasingly more comfortable with this plan.

Umbrage, if Tony flips scum today you better shoot IS. If it's not IS then Fishy, Nacho and Vezo are completly cleared as are you by the kill meaning Apok would become confirmed mafia.

There is one problem. Me and nacho won't be confirmed for others.

Also if the scum team is IS and apok this plan is headed for disaster.

We need to cover all bases.

The only non confirmed in my mind are tony, apok, dupe. And IS if it's not over.

Best plan should kill those three in one day.

[vezokpiraka]

I know, I know. The thing is you four guys are the only unconfirmed people.

As long as we kill two of you today and umbrage shoots another tomorrow is a guaranteed win.

[vezokpiraka]

@Umbrage: If we lynch scum today there is no way me and nacho are scums.

If both persons we lynch today flip town Umbrage will lose us the game one way or another so it doesn't matter.

[vezokpiraka]

I don't die.

You vig me if nobody flips scum today and lose us the game. Or maybe you will think a little then figure that I and nacho can't be scum.

[vezokpiraka]

IT DOESN'T LEAD US TO CERTAIN VICTORY YOU DUMB IDIOT.

IT LEADS US TO CERTAIN DOOM. I'M NOT DYING TODAY. THAT WAY THERE ARE BIGGER CHANCES FOR SCUM TO DIE. YOU CAN SHOOT ME AND PRAY FOR GOD THAT WE GET SCUM TODAY.

IF WE DON'T I'M SO GOING TO TROLL YOU FORM HERE ON OUT.

[vezokpiraka]

Crap. That's not good.

The scenario loses us to many towns.

fishy is very likely town. If he isn't mod is a bastard.
instead of me dying can we let nacho die? She hasn't posted so much today and I would like to live to the next day.

The last day is going to be horrible. Also if fishy is scum he can't spare people and annoy us so he isn't a problem.

The thing is we have to see who from the tony/apok is scum. Let's go with the plan.

[vezokpiraka]

Cool plan.
I like it.

[vezokpiraka]

It can't apok + IS.

Following the plan we lynch IS. There is no way IS is still alive.

[vezokpiraka]

If Umbrage promises to vig IS I'm oky with sparing tony.

unspare nacho (sorry buddy)
Spare tony

[vezokpiraka]

I like it. Thank you Umbrage.

I gotta go to sleep so this is my last post today.

[vezokpiraka]

Umbrage....


How many people can we kill today?

My thoughts on scum: IS and tony.
I'll bet heavy money this is the scum team.

With that said.

spare apok

[vezokpiraka]

Slow down there champ. Did you notice that there was no kill last night?

I had an idea about Umbrage last night. He sure took a long time to claim vig didn't he? His claim was timed pretty well, wasn't it? He sure ended up getting his way and we lost two towns. What if Umbrage is actually scum?

I decided to check Umbrage last night...
Umbrage is a KNIGHT.

Umbrage, what happened to your kill last night? And where is the scum kill?

WTF?

Seriously can't you see that he got roleblocked by tony and you had to use your power to check someone because then you were confirmed scum?

You are the scum and tony.

[vezokpiraka]

I'm not sure apok is town. But based on the four unconfirmeds she was the most likely one. I think I get what you're saying IS.

[vezokpiraka]

unspare
spare is

I'm ok with that plan.

Also fuck you Umbrage. Told you we were town and you didn't have to kill us.

[vezokpiraka]

Oh crap.

Apok save fishy if you're town so we can go to night.

[vezokpiraka]

I agree with that.
It seems like a waste of time.

[vezokpiraka]

WTF?

How were we supposed to kill IS and umbrage if IS could always save umbrage and umbrage could save anyone unless they were a goon?

Also the town was stupid. Why the fuck did you trust the god damn scum when I fucking told you we were masons? WTF did you think? Also great job duplicity. If you weren't stupid enough to ask for everyone what the mechanism against scum cross sparing was Umbrage couldn't have gambited the way he did. Seriously. This town sucked.

Also chess: Why the fuck didn't you vig scum shit Umbrage?

[vezokpiraka]

Don't even get me started on the idea of not saving Fate day one. Who the fuck had that idea? Seriously this town was brain dead. I was arguing with two scums and one semi conscious townie. How the fuck was I supposed to make them do what I want?

@RC: You were a great mod and the setup was great. Thank you for the game.

Seriously. I can't even comprehend how stupid this town was. How the fuck did the scum have so much control?

The guys who got killed day 1 except Fate: You deserved it.
Fate: I'm sorry I couldn't spare you but I needed my mason buddy alive:(
Chesskid:

Mod

: Making him live only if he had two votes was pretty bastard. He had to claim or die. Pretty much useless role if the stars didn't align to give him two votes. Now back to chesskid: YOU SHOULD'VE SHOT UMBRAGE.
Freewil: Good job on being a moron townie that managed to get himself vigged. Good job on that.
Apok and tony: WTF was that? It was like you two weren't even here. If you had been more vocal about your ideas we wouldn't have been crushed like that by the scums.
Dupe: You just had to rolefish to find out who protected against scum cross sparing. You just had. Also because of that argument IS seemed very pro -town. Also if you HADN'T DONE THAT WE MIGHT HAVE WON. GOOD JOB ON BEING A MORON TOO.
Scums: Umbrage was so scummy it hurt. When he claimed vig and IS with his investigation that was the breaking point. I was already annoyed by how the players played that I convinced myself no scum would ever claim vig just cause. IS was pro-town just because of the fight with Dupe.
Nacho: WTF mason buddy? You lurked all day. You did nothing. NOTHING. If you were around on day 2 things could've went better.
Me: I didn't play brilliantly either. I got fooled by Umbrage's gambit because of the so many inactive townies that just slept or something.
Fishy: You played pretty well. Unfortunately you didn't have a vote and I didn't take you serious enough. Also claiming you weren't Bp was pretty stupid. All in all I think you were the best player on the town side.

All in all this was a great game. Except the town was terrible.

[vezokpiraka]

Inactivity from the town killed this.

I didn't see IS needed two spare votes everytime.

Why the fuck did we gave him two votes today????
I didn't consider you being scum at all after claiming vig. Even with the goddamn gambit.
It was already a lost battle on day 3 when I was only arguing with Umbrage and IS. Fishy was there too but he didn't have a vote.

Apol and tony were barely in this game. All in all everything went down from the moment fate didn't get spared and IS got two votes. You know rolecp[=scum most of the time. Why the fuck did you give another vote the first day?