Lost: Season Four (Massacre!)

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owlfirm?

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Vote: Chesskid

Do i need to explain this?

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/confirm.

I was drunk when I got my role PM. Then I had to work.

VOTE: Dramonic

Liability to the town, D1 policy, blah blah blah.

The usual.

HEY

I am not a liability to the town!
The only game you have to defend that argument I shot scum night 1 and my basically conftown neighbour ended up killing me.

AND YOU WERE SCUM >: (

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he's a hydra, there are two players in there.

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What... the... hell... WAS THAT?

Vote: Faranor

That frost wagon was ten kinds of awful =_=
And of COURSE AGar is not here today, big surprise.

Faranor.
Dies.
Now.

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If you were paying attention you'd have read that AGar is on the boat thing.

Then again, you don't REALLY have an incentive to pay attention, considering you're scum.

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Please, like you cant figure out by here I mean on the island =_=
I'm saying scum doesn't have to pay attention as much because they have their buddies to fall back on if they miss something.
Like hell I'll self-vote.
Feel free to though, you're not being subtle at all.

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I'm going from the basis that giving town that power is fairly overpowered since there's a chance they can isolate the scum.
From there, it's either randomly controlled (yeah, suuuure) or a scum power.
AGar is pretty damn town, so they isolate him to prevent any use of a potential PR from him. He was, shall we say, effectively vanillaized.

Yes, he can't be killed.
But mafia doesn't want to kill VT.

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Because we've all seen the obvobvtown character come up as obvobvtown.
Pretty sure Claire scum in Lost 1 or Locke scum in Lost 2 were also obvobvtown <<

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ftr, I don't know Lost, but im pretty sure it was generally established them as scum was wack.

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Do you really need me to name every scum role in the past 3 games to understand the point that flavour assumptions are BS in a Reck game?
Extended Jailer is not goddamn protown.

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Now, inform your buddy he can't claim it safely and drop dead quietly.

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I love how you fail to provide any reason why it's a town role.

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once again, complete failure to provide an explanation.

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My reasoning is it has the potential to isolate scum and prevent any scumkill from happening from then on.
That's a freakin overpowered townrole.

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Yeah, you're scum.

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...

WHY do you think it's too powerful to be a scum role.
How hard can it be to answer that simple question.

Faranor deflected and went into flavor speculation (big surprise considering he's scum).
Now you're just ignoring the question.

Jesus Christ, does a third person wants to buddy up here so we can just end this game right now?

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Your argument is fucking stupid LOL IT'S TOO POWERFUL AS A SCUM ROLE BECAUSE THEY CAN VANILLAISE EVERYONES AND TURN IT MOUNTAINOUS. that level of badness. it's clearly a double edged town sword as you've already pointed out. lol op'd.

First, tone it the fuck down.

Second, I'm not saying it's too powerful as scum. I'm saying it's too powerful as town. You're very bad at this reading thing.

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Except scum can't kill that townie PR Jason.
It's part of the concept of isolating someone.

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"A role that can break the game in the hands of a good scumhunter is not a role you give to town."

What part of that statement do you disagree with?

@Jason: Yes, but if there are only two people on the freighter and one of them die it's not fuckin subtle.
@Chess: Moving your townreads on the freighter is fuckin terrible play as town.

@Jason: It's really not, it's outed 1 scum, potentially 2.

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Hey, I've heard of this thing?
It's called a godfather.
Apparently, they're often bulletproof!

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doc/busdriver/roleblocker.

Go do your paper.

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We're talking here about a town vigilante with excellent aim.

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doc/busdriver/roleblocker.

Go do your paper.

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If you do the town thing and help me lynch farascum, I'll help you lynch chesskid later <3

@Vezok: It would be a bit strange for it to be pre-determined when we know actions are affected by location

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What if the mechanic that switches people from island is unknown even to the person doing it?

Example: Like what if when the doc protects someone it moves them to the freighter?

That example doesn't make much sense but I'm sure that there could be one that does make sense.

Then the doc (in your example) would know pretty fast <<

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and that's three with the awful bussing attempt.

K, let's get this show on the road.

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Lamest.
Buddying attempt.
Ever.

Can we REALLY lynch Faranor?

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It's the part where you kiss chesskid's ass.

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and apparently you really can't. lolz answered your rhetorical question so smart

teehee aren't you clever =_=
I don't except you or chess to support the lynch.

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I could lynch you too chess,
the problem is that I seem to be the only one to see the scum that Faranor is.
Whereas you're not gonna make it to endgame regardless, so if I die before you it's fine.

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You're awfully confident on Keamy being in the setup and you not having a fakeclaim.

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So... basically you're saying you know there's bulletproof scum in the setup.
And you know who it is
But it's definitely not you.

Your logic is making me nimb

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I don't see keamy not being in this setup
I don't see any scum not keamy being bulletproof
hence
if keamy dies
i become conftown

How does the second line have any effect on the conclusion you're drawing?
It doesn't, but you're saying it anyways.
Because you know it's there.

You
are
scum

vote your buddy.

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Because I'm voting for you, who is harder to lynch scum
I said that already.

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Did you miss the part where I'm saying you're probably Keamy with a fakeclaim?

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jason, are you sure you're supposed to be strongarm and not just unblockable?

See?
SEE THIS BS PEOPLE?

Chesskid claimed being bulletproof.
And you're looking for reason for chesskid not to have been shot and be alive.

SCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM.

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It's really not either or. Chesskid IS lying.

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REHASH!

vote: Faranor

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lamest attempt at bringing me down with you ever <<

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Please stop drunkposting. <<

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You know it's fake because he's irish.
Irish people can't be drunk, that would be a folklore faux-pas.

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Of course Faranor.

Problem is, i'm a 1-shot mason recruiter, I recruited Newman night 1 becasue my power fails on non-VTs. Newman can confirm this (and realistically already has with his shenanigan on day 3 saying he wasnt VT anymore.)
I also have a crumb in post... 352 I think? I'll check.

it's that post where i purposely typoed numb as nimb for newman is mason buddy.

Your attempt at getting me quicklynched after the mockinjaye BS is fuckin obvious faranor. You were bv day 1, you were obv day 2, you were obv day 3

your team is toast.

vote: faranor

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its my ISO 32.

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Add to this the fact we're realistically in LyLo and you just tied to push a quicklynch because "oh, there must have been scum on your wagon"

fucking terrible.

faranor goes down. Unless he flips neighborizer (or a variation on that), gandalf will be joining him soon.

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Hey look, AGar died!
Hey look, he was on the freighter
WITH ONLY FARANOR AND JASON.

Hey, how did you neighborize someone while going clearly against the game's special mechanics again?

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Also dram, that's obv. AGar's ability resolves first.

So you're trying to convince me that Faranor targetted someone he was unable to, just in case AGar transfers him?

Please stretch more, the both of you are confirmed scum.

and if you want to push a bit more, that means Jason is scum because he's the only other one who could aim at agar.

Please stop flailing, kthx.

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Holy crap.

Fara got me there.

/pre in for S5.

Also because both fara and gand, and Dram and newman claimed to be masons it was clear that one of the teams was scum.
Masonizer sounds worse than neighbourizer.

Shut up Vezok. Don try to dish out your shit argument before I had fucking claimed.

@Reck: Please dont allow this garbage into season 5

@Magna: IMO it shows how horrible the town was that Faranor wasn't lynched day 1 ;P

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faranor would have gotten murdered if vezok wasnt such a giant tool.