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Post Post #19 (isolation #0) » Sun May 15, 2011 8:12 am

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Vote: Ythill


Parama is townier than town.
Also... what the fuck?
Mina wrote:I realized that Zach is cleared, because the odds of a team being given four scum role PMs is 0.29%.

Seriously, what?

Swiftstrike's post is SCUMMY AS FUCK.
UK is town. This is what she does as town.

Unvote; Vote: swiftstrike


Ythill better show up and gimme something to work with because he already makes me nervous anyway.
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Post Post #22 (isolation #1) » Sun May 15, 2011 8:31 am

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Hmmmmm.

Well if I was wrong about your meta, correcting me on it when I had cleared you as town definitely makes you town.

@Mina: Hm, fine, I'll buy it.
Zach is town too.

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Post Post #24 (isolation #2) » Sun May 15, 2011 8:34 am

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tajotown?
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Post Post #26 (isolation #3) » Sun May 15, 2011 8:37 am

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It was a question. You answered incorrectly.

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Post Post #28 (isolation #4) » Sun May 15, 2011 8:40 am

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I'm in go-mode.

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Post Post #29 (isolation #5) » Sun May 15, 2011 8:42 am

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Town

UncertainKitten
Parama
Iecerint
Mina
Zachrulez

Not Sure

Hoppster
populartajo
animorpherv1
Katsuki
singersigner
Ythill

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Post Post #31 (isolation #6) » Sun May 15, 2011 8:55 am

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But Parama.
Hoppster is in my "not sure" column.
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Post Post #32 (isolation #7) » Sun May 15, 2011 8:55 am

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Oh. Idea.

Voting block?
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Post Post #34 (isolation #8) » Sun May 15, 2011 9:05 am

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My translations:

Post 1: "Let's get an RVS bandwagon going so we can move out of the RVS and into actual gameplay."

Post 2: "Lighthearted banter for the sake of lighthearted banter."
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Post Post #37 (isolation #9) » Sun May 15, 2011 9:12 am

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1. Yes.
2. Yes. Well, I'm posting notes/thoughts in the team QT as they come to me.
3. Because I rule at being motherfucking town in dram games.
4. If I had the chance, I would've jumped all over it, because I feel like I'm good at being scum and can get away with a lot, and especially so with the Screaming Death Clan in my corner.
5.
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P-EDIT RESPONSE: HEY PARAMA. YOU REMEMBER YOUR GUT IN FATES MAFIA AND HOW IT WAS LIKE 33% WRONG ON HIRAKI BUT RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE?
HOPPSTER IS YOUR HIRAKI HERE
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Post Post #41 (isolation #10) » Sun May 15, 2011 9:35 am

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Hoppster wrote:No it doesn't. Somebody was bound to either correct it/go check it out.

Also, I see that tajo and Reck have both put me in the 'middle-ground' category between town and scum. Don't worry, I'm town; you can move me up to town. (Now would be great, but it can wait until after we lynch swiftstrike.)

Except that no, somebody wasn't "bound" to do it.

Hoppster wrote:So why am I in your 'Not Sure' category?

While I don't think you're scum, you haven't done enough to warrant the "Get out of Jail free" card I've extended to some people.

Don't worry though, you're not on my very very short list of people I want to lynch. That's just swiftstrike. And I'm not modifying my list anymore until the non-posters come in and post.
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Post Post #43 (isolation #11) » Sun May 15, 2011 9:44 am

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KATS, YOU TOWN?
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Post Post #45 (isolation #12) » Sun May 15, 2011 9:52 am

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FoS: animorpherv1
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Post Post #46 (isolation #13) » Sun May 15, 2011 9:53 am

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PARAMA I ASKED YOU A GODDAMNED QUESTION
VOTING. BLOCK.
Y/N
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Post Post #50 (isolation #14) » Sun May 15, 2011 9:56 am

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Nobody gives a shit about Mafia Theory right now.

These aren't useless. In fact, trying to equate this as "random question stage" when we've already had "random voting stage" is preposterous. Those questions are 100% relevant to the game at-hand and can provide us with useful information and you're refusing to cooperate due to "lol this is what I think about mafia theory" so FUCK OFF

ATTN VIG: PLEASE LET ANI EAT A BULLET TONIGHT HE'S NOT WORTH OUR TIME TO LYNCH KTHX
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Post Post #54 (isolation #15) » Sun May 15, 2011 10:02 am

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I CAN'T FIND MY ORANGE ONE GODDAMMIT
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Post Post #55 (isolation #16) » Sun May 15, 2011 10:03 am

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fuck it, using the green one

I have an updated scum/townlist but it pretty much gives me a 3/4 chance of hitting scum correctly if it's right and this game can't be that easy so I need to wait for people to post.
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Post Post #56 (isolation #17) » Sun May 15, 2011 10:04 am

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APPROVED BLOCKVOTERS:

Me
Parama
Mina
Zach
Iece

I have some I wanna add but I'll wait a bit.
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Post Post #61 (isolation #18) » Sun May 15, 2011 10:08 am

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Add Ythill to the scum list.
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Post Post #63 (isolation #19) » Sun May 15, 2011 10:10 am

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Ythill comes in here and before even reading the thread lays down a non-random vote on tajo, who actually has crept up to the town section of my most recent list.

Then he uses the same argument for Katsuki. He's using metagame arguments in order to try and call people scum in lieu of doing actual game-specific scumhunting.

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Post Post #64 (isolation #20) » Sun May 15, 2011 10:12 am

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RECK'S CURRENT LIST


Town

UK
Parama
Iecerint
Mina
Zach
tajo

Not Sure

Hoppster
Katsuki
singer

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swiftstrike
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Post Post #65 (isolation #21) » Sun May 15, 2011 10:13 am

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Not to mention his attempts to divert a wagon off of his scumbuddy swiftstrike

MAN OH MAN THIS IS GONNA BE FATES MAFIA ALL OVER AGAIN
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Post Post #66 (isolation #22) » Sun May 15, 2011 10:19 am

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Originally I had Kats & Hopp in the town list but Parama is giving me pause because he can't be wrong about BOTH of them.

However we have our lynch today (swift) and his buddy (Ythill) for trying to divert the wagon using bullshit tactics. animorph is free to eat a bullet whenever though.
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Post Post #70 (isolation #23) » Sun May 15, 2011 10:29 am

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Welllll I must be crazy for reading her post as town then.
Parama, Ythill is probscum, y/n?

Attempt to derail scumbuddy's wagon is obvious
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Post Post #72 (isolation #24) » Sun May 15, 2011 10:30 am

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...
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...
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Fuck, he's 100% right.

GOD DAMMIT okay so ani is actually town here unless his team got ALL scum PMs which is really really really really fucking unlikely
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Post Post #74 (isolation #25) » Sun May 15, 2011 10:32 am

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Doesn't matter.
Ani: who is on your team?
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Post Post #76 (isolation #26) » Sun May 15, 2011 10:35 am

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Imma go play some Starcraft 2 since my trial just started, but when I check back in, I expect more swift votes.
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Post Post #99 (isolation #27) » Sun May 15, 2011 11:54 am

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TIME FOR A BREAK FROM STACRAFT 2.

Hoppster wrote:Is this semantics on my choice of the word 'bound', or are you disputing that anybody would have checked it (or both)?

I don't think anyone would've checked, necessarily, so clarifying it herself is a town-tell.

Hoppster wrote:
WHAT?

Is this an in-joke or are you saying you don't actually think I'm scum?

More of an in-joke.

Hoppster wrote:Reck, your Kat town-read gut or reasoned?

Part gut, part meta from seeing Kats as both scum and town numerous times.

AH AND HERE COMES THE SCUM'S CATCHUP POST.
Ythill wrote:
@Reck:
What, you want me to hammer swift on page three? Kats sheeping him to L-1 should tell you something about the validity of my meta arguments. I think you're just anti-global game because one of you/Fate is obi.
No, but putting down a vote on tajo based on global meta bullshit is really obviously trying to distract from the wagon at-hand. And no, Kats sheeping him to L-1 should tell you something about the obvious pro-town voting block, which you are not a part of, because you are scum.

Ythill wrote:So far, Iec and Kats look scummy. UK has dropped a meta scumtell but we'll see how that goes. I will tell you her alignment definitively by the end of the day. Reck can attest to this.

Iec and Kats looks scummy… that's it? No reasoning. Damn, you're not even trying here.

Ythill wrote:The game hadn't started yet. You don't think team rosters are important?

Considering that Fate almost got modkilled in another game for asking for team stuff, I'd say that NO, it isn't allowed. Focus on the goddamn game at hand and stop trying to distract everyone with global team meta shit.

Ythill wrote:
@Parama:
I got nothing on tajo from this thread, which is why my "fancy BS team WIFOM" is to be feared. Now are you going to help me lynch scum or not?
If you'd like to join us in lynching your scumbuddy, swiftstrike, we promise you a quick and easy death.

Zachrulez wrote:So Hoppster is scum.

Discuss.

Less likely so than swift or Ythill, so let's deal with them first.

@UK's list:
I can agree with your town-list, but the rest of it is terrible. Katsuki has one post, you can't be "leaning scum" on her already, and since I have more experience with her, I do have a right to put her as leaning town or whatever. animorpherv1 isn't scum because he's terrible and always vig/lynchbait so there's no chance in hell his team sent him as their scum representative. swift is scum for being too careful, Ythill is scum for using bullshit global meta & trying to derail a wagon on scum, and tajo is actually town because he just fucking is.

Ythill wrote:Scumteam is Kats + UK + one of Iec/tajo.

This is so 100% wrong I can't believe you wouldn't even try to bus one of your scumbuddies along the way.

Katsuki is obvious fucking town after 91 & 92, so anyone who has her on their scum-list can back the fuck down now and get on Ythill or swiftstrike.

UK wrote:How quaint, Ythill calling me scum because he doesn't like what I say. I can't say I expected much better, honestly.

Join me in his lynch, then. Or his buddy, swiftstrike.

singer lays down an empty vote on Ythill; not necessarily the biggest town tell ever but I'll take what I can get right now.
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Post Post #101 (isolation #28) » Sun May 15, 2011 11:58 am

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Post Post #103 (isolation #29) » Sun May 15, 2011 12:06 pm

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Please don't do this red text/blue text bullshit in this game, I will happily skip those posts.

Llamarble/ConSpiracy/SSBF would all be much better suited to be scum, especially in a dram theme game. ani is town.

Tajo is town. You have no case on him being scum. This is tajotown as far as I've seen. I played a game with him where he was town and I was scum, but I can't reveal which one it was because it's a SUPER SECRET ALT that nobody knows about. We can agree to disagree how.

Swift is not fucking town. Swift is scum who tried to be too careful with his opening post, got slam-dunked, and now Ythill is coming in trying to derail the wagon onto townies.

You can generate your own reads if you want, but they're not good. They're not even close to being correct. You are leaning scum on the people I see as town and leaning town on the scum who is currently one vote away from flipping. If you really want him lynched so we can pick from the scums, hammer him. Right now. Have some balls. Just fucking do it.

I would gladly join you in a Ythill lynch, but seeing as how swift is at L-1, I'm a big fan of hammering before people have a chance to scramble to explain themselves then analyze the wagonbuild tomorrow when he flips scum.

Not sure how tajo's "lists" are coming from scum. Makes literally no sense to me as his lists are fairly consistent with what I'm seeing.
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Post Post #105 (isolation #30) » Sun May 15, 2011 12:06 pm

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Post Post #107 (isolation #31) » Sun May 15, 2011 12:09 pm

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unofficial votecount

swifstrike (6): Hoppster, Iecerint, populartajo, xRECKONERx, Parama, Katsuki
Iecerint (1): Swiftstrike
Ythill (3): animorph, Mina, singersigner
Hoppster (1): Zachrulez
animorpherv1 (1): UK
Katsuki (1): Ythill
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Post Post #109 (isolation #32) » Sun May 15, 2011 12:11 pm

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Ythill & swift won't join each other's wagons because lolbuddies.

That means it's up to ani, Mina, singer, Zach, or UK to hammer swift.

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Shut up tajo, it's page 5, and scum is at L-1
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Post Post #111 (isolation #33) » Sun May 15, 2011 12:12 pm

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Zach:
if swift flips scum, will your read on Hoppster change?
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Post Post #114 (isolation #34) » Sun May 15, 2011 12:14 pm

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Tajo makes lists all the fucking time without much reasoning behind them. This is not out of the blue here.

Get out of your tunnel and consider that you're wrong for like half a fucking second
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Post Post #118 (isolation #35) » Sun May 15, 2011 12:18 pm

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ALSO OF NOTE
Ythill goes "one of you/Fate is obv" implying one of us is scum, then in the very next paragraph goes "Reck is probably town".

Also seeing as how people have been modwarned already for team speculation/meta I WOULD SUGGEST EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW

Hoppster has like no basis behind him being scum. Also, question: if we lynch swiftstrike and he flips scum, what does that say about Hoppster, being the first serious vote on him?

And we just have to disagree on ani. I pray to god you're not the vig though.
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Post Post #121 (isolation #36) » Sun May 15, 2011 12:21 pm

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She's willing to give Zach a pass because he voted Hoppster who she suspects, and she's locked in a tunnel therefore won't even look at the vote on Ythill.

PREDIT: Singer, you better fucking produce some actual content instead of emptyquoting UK, or so help me god.
Why is your vote on Ythill if you agree with UK that tajo is scum?
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Post Post #122 (isolation #37) » Sun May 15, 2011 12:21 pm

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@singer:
if you hammer in your next post, I will absolve you of your sins and THOMAS EDISON the shit out of you tonight.
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Post Post #125 (isolation #38) » Sun May 15, 2011 12:23 pm

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YOU SAY THAT HOPPSTER'S FIRST POST IS NERVOUS JOKING
AND YET YOU DON'T SEE ANY VALIDITY IN THE SWIFSTRIKE WAGON?

WHAT
THE FUCK
ARE YOU SMOKING

Offer to ani, Mina, singer, or UK:
whichever one of you hammers swiftstrike will get THOMAS EDISON'd
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Post Post #127 (isolation #39) » Sun May 15, 2011 12:24 pm

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I don't see a D1 bus on page 1 that isn't even RVS.
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Post Post #129 (isolation #40) » Sun May 15, 2011 12:26 pm

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Except that Parama had already suggested a wagon on him, in a roundabout way, and it was RVS so he could've gone ANYWHERE with it, but he went to swiftstrike
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Post Post #132 (isolation #41) » Sun May 15, 2011 12:29 pm

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Do it. Hammer.

I'm sure right now the scum are lolling in their QT about how you're completely off-base.
Do you want to be a laughing stock?

WELL PUNK
DO YA?

singer wrote:Ythill's policy because he prides himself on his scum game. Unless his team got all town roles, there's no way he would've passed up the opportunity to continue a flawless scum game.

oh shit, THAT'S RIGHT. Ythill is undefeated as scum.

WELL HEE HEE HO HO NOT ANYMORE HE'S NOT
DOES IT HURT YTHILL :D
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Post Post #135 (isolation #42) » Sun May 15, 2011 12:33 pm

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swift & Ythill are both conspicuously absent

singer is scummy for having her vote on Ythill but agreeing Tajo is scum... someone that Ythill also thinks is scum.

And as many dumb things as you say you're still town, UK
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Post Post #136 (isolation #43) » Sun May 15, 2011 12:33 pm

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k time for more starcraft
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Post Post #138 (isolation #44) » Sun May 15, 2011 12:35 pm

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Calling it.

Ythill - swift - singer/UK
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Post Post #143 (isolation #45) » Sun May 15, 2011 12:37 pm

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The variables: Zach/Mina are the same alignment, whatever they are. Mina's meta stuff with Zach was townish and therefore I accept Zach as town so let's go on that assumption at least for D1

Kats hasn't posted much but I have a town read

PREDIT: NO SINGER
YTHILL THINKS TAJO IS SCUM DUE TO BULLSHIT GLOBAL META
Also how did you know about Ythill's perfect scum record?
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Post Post #144 (isolation #46) » Sun May 15, 2011 12:38 pm

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Yeah but honestly you and singer are both pussyfooting around Ythill/swift so it could be either of you. If given a gun I would shoot singer before you but if she flips town you're next
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Post Post #146 (isolation #47) » Sun May 15, 2011 12:39 pm

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Fine, I'll wait.
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Post Post #161 (isolation #48) » Sun May 15, 2011 1:10 pm

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You have a problem lynching a "not sure" if you can't get support for one of your scum reads?
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Post Post #164 (isolation #49) » Sun May 15, 2011 1:14 pm

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@swiftstrike: claim now, or forever hold your peace


I'm fine with you waiting on Ythill, but it's possible he's tactically lurking until a lynch so as not to provide any information.
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Post Post #166 (isolation #50) » Sun May 15, 2011 1:16 pm

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No. That's faulty logic.

He's scummy to me no matter what. By holding out, and letting his buddy's lynch go through, he may hope to distract you, seeing as how you're one of the only people working WITH the Ythill/swift scumteam.
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Post Post #175 (isolation #51) » Sun May 15, 2011 1:35 pm

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UK, please vote swift.
If you do this for me, I will help you lynch the fuck out of Ythill D2. Scout's honor.

PREDIT: Scum have daytalk in every dram game ever.

PREDIT AGAIN: Hammmmerrrrrrrr.

PLEASE FOR MY OWN SANITY
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Post Post #191 (isolation #52) » Sun May 15, 2011 2:13 pm

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No, Parama.

If we lynch Ythill and he flips town, I will go with you on UK. If he flips scum, though, swift goes next.

Unvote; Vote: Ythill


JUST TRUST ME HERE PARAMA
SERIOUSLY
I'LL GIVE YOU UK IF YTHILL ISN'T SCUM
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Post Post #192 (isolation #53) » Sun May 15, 2011 2:13 pm

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UK
you WILL give me my swift lynch tomorrow, whether or not I survive the night
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Post Post #198 (isolation #54) » Sun May 15, 2011 2:39 pm

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Parama wrote:why are we stopping the swift wagon.

oh I'm still up for swift
Find 2 people to vote and I'll jump back on
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Post Post #199 (isolation #55) » Sun May 15, 2011 3:08 pm

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Everyone: in your next post, state your lynch preferences for today. Top three, in order.
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Post Post #202 (isolation #56) » Sun May 15, 2011 3:32 pm

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Mina, if you're okay with a swift lynch, vote him.

He's at L-3 right now.
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Post Post #204 (isolation #57) » Sun May 15, 2011 3:47 pm

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1. swiftstrike
2. Ythill
3. singersigner
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Post Post #205 (isolation #58) » Sun May 15, 2011 3:48 pm

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FYI, if swift shows up and refuses to claim, lynch him with fire.
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Post Post #207 (isolation #59) » Sun May 15, 2011 4:07 pm

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Actually I'm trying to trick you into putting him at L-1 so I can hammer.
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Post Post #215 (isolation #60) » Sun May 15, 2011 4:24 pm

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<3 <3 <3 <3 <3
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Post Post #223 (isolation #61) » Sun May 15, 2011 8:49 pm

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xRECKONERx wrote:FYI, if swift shows up and refuses to claim, lynch him with fire.

Unvote; Vote: swiftstrike


kill it with fire.
now.
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Post Post #224 (isolation #62) » Sun May 15, 2011 9:15 pm

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Ythill wrote:Okay. I didn't even read most of the last two pages but Reck is being a moron. Again. You're not Fate. Stop trying to be him.

ad hom attempt to discredit me without actually reading

Ythill wrote:You think swift is scum? And you got him to L-1 a few hours into the game? You think Kats sheeping him there without caring about the VC means she is town? You think I'm buddies with someone because I didn't vote him? Have you seen me play scum?

Argues "this is too much good stuff in a row" which is a bullshit argument, especially for a dram game

Ythill wrote:Skim puts singer on the scumlist. I'm scum because I'm awesome at it and yet she knows this already? LOLWAT? Fact is I am awesome as any alignment and your buddies are going to be swearing about me in the QT tonight.

Bragging about himself. Not a valid case.

Ythill wrote:Ninja'd x100000000: Reckoner I actually have a life, tyvm. Believe it or not, there is a world beyond your computer pod.

Moar insulting adhom. Someone is mad I caught him so early *angryface*

Ythill wrote:How do you know scum can daytalk?

Anyone besides me read this as "How do you know I can daytalk?" instead of "What kind of inside information do you have?". The formulation of this is not townish, I just can't figure out a way to say with my hands what I feel in my gut.

Ythill wrote:
@Reck:
bullshit, they didn't in Tarot Mafia. And they didn't in the games I've reviewed for him either.

Hmm, welllll… seeing as how I'm the one who co-mods with him, and he's always told me his ruleset usually includes daytalk, I think I'll trust my opinion over scum's.

Ythill wrote:Why are you in such a hurry? Lynching without a claim even. Starting to doubt my town read.

Nice attempt to back off of your town read on me. Subtle as an elephant.
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Post Post #226 (isolation #63) » Sun May 15, 2011 9:20 pm

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Swiftstrike wrote:I cannot believe that I got to L-1 after one throw away post in day 1 page 1 that is ridiculous, and as such there is no way I'm claiming right now that is a crazy thing to ask based off a RVS post.

refusal to claim. lynchworthy by itself

Swiftstrike wrote:1) I'm going to try read all the games yes.
2) I do intend on taking notes
3) Because I like scum hunting and am good at it.
4) My evil laugh is always fun to break out.
5) REALLY.

terrible answers all around

Swiftstrike wrote:This is great after one post by a player you can't have leaning scum, but you can have a full scum read, I don't know where to begin with that state but it stinks of hypocrisy.

Attempts to discredit me despite understand the context.
I have significant meta on Katsuki which leads to my town read. Your one post was enough to call you scum because you were too careful about it, then disappeared for like eight hours.

Swiftstrike wrote:And now for the near certain scum that got on my wagon.

Arbitrarily refers to Iecerint as "certain scum" without any reasoning, except for this:
Swiftstrike wrote:I get involve in shit early in every game I get into, it the weak part of my game, so this is a lie
Which is just a terrible reason to declare someone as "sure scum". It's like he saw who was wagoning him and was like "fuck, nobody is legitimately scummy" so pointed out the first thing he could find a discrepancy with…and we all know that discrepancies are not equal to scum.

He then pretty much just tunnels on Iecerint without making comments about anything else in the game.

So help me god, I don't want to do this early on in the game, but I swear to god I will. If Swift isn't lynched today, he will die tomorrow, and at that point I'll pretty much have sole discretion in who dies and who doesn't.

Ythill & Swiftstrike are 1000000% scum. Let's lynch them then find their partner.
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Post Post #227 (isolation #64) » Sun May 15, 2011 9:22 pm

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@ani:
Can I bother you for a Ythill lynch today? I promise you won't die tonight via vig. I'll even give you a little something to make sure of that ;)

@Mina:
If Ythill is scum, swiftstrike is his buddy. Join that wagon. Please.

No point in arguing with singer/UK, since they're both stubborn and thus likely one of the other scumbuddies there.


OR...

@Iecerint:
If you & I hop on Ythill right now, I promise you a swiftlynch tomorrow.
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Post Post #231 (isolation #65) » Sun May 15, 2011 9:29 pm

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If Ythill flips scum, it'll make me three times as confident about swift being scum.

Vote him.
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Post Post #232 (isolation #66) » Sun May 15, 2011 9:33 pm

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I AM NOT GOING TO BED UNTIL YOU RESPOND, IECE.
AND IT'S 4:30AM HERE.
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Post Post #234 (isolation #67) » Sun May 15, 2011 9:42 pm

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Vote: Ythill


Claim time, Ythill.

PS KATSUKI IF YOU SEE THIS
POST 217
GOGOGOGOGO
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Post Post #243 (isolation #68) » Mon May 16, 2011 3:36 am

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DO. NOT. UNVOTE.


I am the real tracker, and my ability sure as fuck isn't called Chiromancy.

LYNCH HIM WITH FIRE. NOW.
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Post Post #244 (isolation #69) » Mon May 16, 2011 3:39 am

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Anyone who shows up and questions me on this further is anti-town and therefore on my shitlist. I would have no reason to counterclaim Ythill's claim as scum.

SORRY YTHILL OLD CHAP
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Post Post #245 (isolation #70) » Mon May 16, 2011 3:41 am

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PARAMA YOU GET THE FUCK BACK ON HIM RIGHT NOW
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Post Post #246 (isolation #71) » Mon May 16, 2011 3:46 am

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Also "WAHH GUYS LOOK HOW VALUABLE I AM WITH MY GLOBALMETA BULLSHIT"

teh funnieeez

k swift you're next
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Post Post #249 (isolation #72) » Mon May 16, 2011 4:56 am

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Just realized I accidentally bolded the word unvote >_>

Vote: Ythill
just in case
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Post Post #256 (isolation #73) » Mon May 16, 2011 5:42 am

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That was the hammer.

I now retract my tracker claim.

:twisted:
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Post Post #290 (isolation #74) » Wed May 18, 2011 7:26 am

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Alright, wow, I avoided the nightfall. I tracked swiftstrike to Zachrulez, obviously, so that's a bust now.

I like Hoppster's first post and his vote, so I will now echo that vote.

Vote: singersigner


Also, why did we get informed about a vig yesterday, but no other power roles today? Odd. I'm honestly considering massclaim at this point, but I guess it can wait another day.

If singer is town, we lynch UK.
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Post Post #291 (isolation #75) » Wed May 18, 2011 7:27 am

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*nightkill

Damn autocorrect.
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Post Post #292 (isolation #76) » Wed May 18, 2011 7:28 am

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singer wrote:Ythill's policy because he prides himself on his scum game. Unless his team got all town roles, there's no way he would've passed up the opportunity to continue a flawless scum game.


This is her post that bothers me. How would she know about his "flawless scum game" in relation to the current game? This just SCREAMS inside information.

However, UK's back and forth also screams BUS BUS BUS, so I'm really okay with either lynch today.

Ya'll bitches on Hoppster best explain yo'selves
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Post Post #298 (isolation #77) » Wed May 18, 2011 7:34 am

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"Because Hoppster is scum" isn't a reason.
And yeah, I clearly lost my touch when I was calling out Ythill & swift all day yesterday.

Why are you trying to discredit me again, when I was right on two counts?

FoS: UncertainKitten
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Post Post #299 (isolation #78) » Wed May 18, 2011 7:36 am

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populartajo wrote:safe to assume Yhtill put at least one scum in the scum group. I know Im town and swift just came up scum, so I think Hoopsterscum loses some sense.

Now, with UK and kats feeling townie, I think there is def scum in Iec and/or singer. In fact, Iec has been lacking the whole game when I expect him to be the paragon of towniness.

Vote: Iecerint.


Parama, where did you get there is only one scum left?

This makes a ton of sense and everyone on the Hoppster wagon should stop doing dumb things.
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Post Post #301 (isolation #79) » Wed May 18, 2011 7:40 am

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brb, making UK realize how wrong she is

also WHO SAID YOU COULD GET A NINJA AVVIE
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Post Post #306 (isolation #80) » Wed May 18, 2011 7:52 am

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Reck's "I Shouldn't Have to Make Cases in a Dram Game" Post


UncertainKitten versus Hoppster

UK wrote:Anyway, I'll admit I find Hoppster more interesting than swiftstrike at the moment. Carry on.

Hoppster wrote:Well, what can I say, I have a great personality.

(That's what you meant by 'interesting', right?)

UK wrote:@Hoppster: No, I mean you're scum. Unvote, Vote Hoppster

So you call him more interesting with no reasoning, then he makes a joke pointing out how vague your statement was, then you just fire back with "lol no you're scum" and vote him.

UK, you were leaning scum on Hoppster, animorph, Katsuki, and tajo all day yesterday. You were leaning town on swiftstrike, and NULL on Ythill. So excuse me if I don't take your reads seriously, seeing as how you were calling four people scum, and called both of the flipped scum null/town.

"Hopps was a little more elaborate in the joking."

That's the best case you give on Hoppster. In fact, you give WAY MORE reasoning for tajo to be town ("empty, easy lists") and animorph (team meta) than you do anyone else. I don't know what kind of points you think you made about Hoppster, but you didn't actually make any valid ones. His first "elaborate joke" was a lighthearted way of saying "Yeah, your reasons for suspecting me are vague and bullshit".

singersigner vs. Ythill


singer wrote:Oh hi.

I've only played with half of you, but I'm familiar with most of you.

Swift, what's your experience like on MS? I haven't even heard of you before.

Hoppster, Tajo, same question, cept I've seen you around.

I'm reading up now.

vote: Ythill

Take this from singerscum's perspective: she shows up, both of her teammates are under fire, so she fluffs a few questions that are irrelevant then busses her partner, Ythill, for no reason whatsoever.

Next, she emptyquotes singer's point on tajo about how his lists are careless and easy and not from town motivation. Yet, her vote is still on Ythill.

singer wrote:Ythill's policy because he prides himself on his scum game. Unless his team got all town roles, there's no way he would've passed up the opportunity to continue a flawless scum game.

I agree about how lists create empty content. I honestly haven't read the game yet, so…

She explains her vote on Ythill using inside knowledge that I had no idea about, then backtracks on tajo after getting flak for it.

Her next two posts are fluff: "Tajo thinks Ythill is scum?" which is a misreading of what I said, then "Hmm…" which means absolutely jack shit and is just filler.

Her vote is on Ythill, while mostly arguing with tajo, is complete and utter shit.
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Post Post #307 (isolation #81) » Wed May 18, 2011 7:53 am

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UncertainKitten wrote:Also, Reck. Thoughts on Mina? I lean towards playstyle discomforted town, but there are some things in her ISO that could be seen as bad.

Kats and Parama did. I'll switch back if you won't permit it. Have fun "showing me how wrong I am"

(protip: You won't)

Zach flipped town which is enough for me not to lynch Mina till endgame if we even get that far.
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Post Post #310 (isolation #82) » Wed May 18, 2011 7:56 am

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Katsuki wrote:I just realized you spent half of D1 pushing Katscum...

She spent D1 pushing a whole bunch of scum candidates instead of Ythill/swift, then had a drastic change after she was worn down enough.

It's so all over the place, but I have to think she's town due to her part in getting the Ythill wagon going.

Which makes me happy with my vote on singer. If singer dies and flips town, then UK can be next.
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Post Post #311 (isolation #83) » Wed May 18, 2011 7:57 am

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UncertainKitten wrote:Look at the second half of my day, Reck. I pretty much tore the wagon off swift and onto Ythill. Now, had your swift lynch gone through, HOW LIKELY WOULD A YTHILL VIG HAVE BEEN? Odds are Zach would have shot Hoppster N1. Granted, I still think that has a fair chance of a scum flip, but Ythill was probably the most dangerous scum we had to deal with. ALSO note that when swift posted his terribadness, I was fully willing to lynch him, but the Ythill wagon had all the steam.

So no, you're being silly about me Reck. Think for two god damn seconds.

I'm thinking about your inconsistency and pushes and realizing that you're probably town but just very very misguided (see: really fuckin' wrong).
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Post Post #313 (isolation #84) » Wed May 18, 2011 8:01 am

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"HE'S NOT BEEN PRO FUCKING TOWN AT ALL" isn't a case.

"Seriously, look at his ISO" isn't a case, and it can't look any worse than yours does.

How about you look at the fact that I had my shit together from the start, stop trying to discredit me, drop the pride, and we'll go from there.
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Post Post #315 (isolation #85) » Wed May 18, 2011 8:05 am

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My "UK vs Hoppster" case wasn't utter bullshit. It's showing you that you're not as consistent as you want us to think you are, and we would've gotten scum much earlier if I hadn't needed to negotiate some kind of truce with you. I'll give you that we both lynched scum.

Yesterday, I worked with you by going for Ythill before swiftstrike.
Today, work with me by going for singer instead of Hoppster.

If singer is lynched and flips town, I'll track Hoppster tonight.
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Post Post #318 (isolation #86) » Wed May 18, 2011 8:26 am

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My biggest problem with your post is that it's information instead of analysis. "soft discreditation of me" doesn't make him scum; the same way your "hard discreditation of ME" doesn't make you scum. Being middle of the road is also not scummy - it's a natural place to put people who you cannot read that well.

Your case wasn't that convincing. Put your vote on singer, just in case, and I promise you that I'll look harder at Hoppster while you're gone. Deal?
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Post Post #321 (isolation #87) » Wed May 18, 2011 8:31 am

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Thank you.

I will look into Hoppster ASAP.
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Post Post #323 (isolation #88) » Wed May 18, 2011 8:34 am

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Nah you can leave it. If the ninjaavatars were Oasis, you & I would be Liam and Noel, constantly bickering, but the band stays together anyway.
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Post Post #328 (isolation #89) » Wed May 18, 2011 8:57 am

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Ythill was anti-bussing.
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Post Post #336 (isolation #90) » Wed May 18, 2011 9:37 am

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Guys, we're not lynching Iecerint today. We have singer to rope up, and I have Hoppster to track tonight. Maybe I'll pick one of Iecerint & Hoppster randomly.

Now, powerlynch singer.
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Post Post #338 (isolation #91) » Wed May 18, 2011 9:38 am

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WHY
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Post Post #340 (isolation #92) » Wed May 18, 2011 9:40 am

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She's just going to show up and try to attack Hoppster or Iecerint since they're the easy targets
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Post Post #344 (isolation #93) » Wed May 18, 2011 9:50 am

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Let's put singer at L-1.

If she shows up and claims VT/refuses to claim, hammer her immediately.
If she shows up and claims a power role, we may want to consider a mass claim, or just let her get CC'd.
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Post Post #348 (isolation #94) » Wed May 18, 2011 10:01 am

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singer has posted elsewhere on the site in the past two hours.

Okay, I'm fine with lynching now.
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Post Post #376 (isolation #95) » Wed May 18, 2011 1:36 pm

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Parama - we're lynching singer today, then I'm tracking Hoppster tonight.
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Post Post #378 (isolation #96) » Wed May 18, 2011 1:42 pm

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Remember:

We lynch signer on a VT/refusal to claim.
We counterclaim/massclaim if she claims a power role.
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Post Post #380 (isolation #97) » Wed May 18, 2011 1:52 pm

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We'll have to see, then. Because I'm the only outted PR, and I'm still alive, because I'm guessing scum were scared of doc protection. Gotta say, though, I'm not really "getting" the
secret mechanic
at play here, because this seems pretty open and shut.
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Post Post #381 (isolation #98) » Wed May 18, 2011 1:56 pm

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The Rules wrote:
24)
Special Mechanic: Terminology Futura:
"Day" phases are Communions. When Communion is broken, that is "Night". If you can't understand your Role PM, do yourself a favor and reread this rule.
25)
Special Mechanic: Wait what?:
There is at least one secret mechanic!


What the hell qualifies as a "secret mechanic"!?

Oh well. Until we get more information on this, I'll just assume there isn't one and this is dram mindfucking us.

Also, singer has her "last visited" hidden now, when she DIDN'T have it hidden earlier when I checked. If that's not scummy, then I don't know what is.

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Post Post #383 (isolation #99) » Wed May 18, 2011 1:58 pm

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Maybe it has something to do with the fact that scum doesn't flip specific roles, just "Malefice".

Though that fits with my PM, so I dunno.
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Post Post #385 (isolation #100) » Wed May 18, 2011 2:04 pm

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Signersinger (3): Hoppster, xRECKONERx, UncertainKitten
Iecerint (1): populartajo
Hoppster (3): Iecerint, Parama, Katsuki

Not Voting: animorpherv1, Mina, Signersinger

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Post Post #386 (isolation #101) » Wed May 18, 2011 2:05 pm

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WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU PEOPLE NOT GET ABOUT
"SINGER HID HER ONLINE STATUS FROM THE TIME I CHECKED EARLIER UNTIL NOW"

MEANING SHE HAS BEEN READING THE THREAD ALL LURKERLIKE AND HASN'T POSTED
KILL HER NOW
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Post Post #388 (isolation #102) » Wed May 18, 2011 2:11 pm

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I'm tracking him tonight after we lynch singer, so just go ahead and park your vote on her so you can WORK WITH THE ONLY CONFIRMED POWER ROLE IN THE GAME please.
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Post Post #390 (isolation #103) » Wed May 18, 2011 2:16 pm

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*L-2*
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Post Post #392 (isolation #104) » Wed May 18, 2011 2:22 pm

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I didn't claim it yet, but it's called Catoptromancy.
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Post Post #394 (isolation #105) » Wed May 18, 2011 3:06 pm

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YOU WILL DO THIS FOR ME PARAMA
THINK OF THE NINJAS
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Post Post #398 (isolation #106) » Wed May 18, 2011 3:20 pm

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Parama wrote:Reck.
NOBODY BUT HOPP MAKES SENSE AS SCUM.

i am the tracker your god
bow before me

IF I'M WRONG YOU CAN SMITE ME TOMORROW
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Post Post #399 (isolation #107) » Wed May 18, 2011 3:21 pm

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SINGER GET THE FUCK IN HERE AND CLAIM
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Post Post #404 (isolation #108) » Wed May 18, 2011 3:42 pm

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singersigner wrote:
xRECKONERx wrote:Parama - we're lynching singer today,
then
I'm tracking Hoppster tonight.

VOTE: Reckoner

gg, scum.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHA
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HAHAHHHAHAH
AHAHAH
AHA
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HAHHHHAHHAHA

LYNCH THIS WITH FUCKING FIRE IMMEDIATELY
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Post Post #405 (isolation #109) » Wed May 18, 2011 3:43 pm

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SHE LURKS
UNTIL SHE FINDS A "SLIP"
THEN SHOWS UP AND VOTES ME WITHOUT CLAIMING DESPITE BEING IN DANGER OF A LYNCH?

I AM THE TRACKER
WHO COUNTERCLAIMED THE GODDAMN SCUM TRACKER CLAIM D1
YOU ARE FUCKING DESPERATE

LYNCH
IT
WITH
FIRE

I'M AS CONFIRMED TOWN AS IT GETS AND YET SHE PUTS A VOTE ON ME
FUCKING KILL HER
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Post Post #407 (isolation #110) » Wed May 18, 2011 3:47 pm

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SINGER I KNOW YOU'RE STILL HERE
YOU SHOW THE FUCK BACK UP NOW
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Post Post #408 (isolation #111) » Wed May 18, 2011 3:50 pm

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EVERYONE LYNCH HER.
IMMEDIATELY.

MOD VOTECOUNT OFFICIAL PLZ
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