Ender's Game Mafia (Over)

[SleepyKrew]

I was going to vote TSQ, but then Voided decided to post and not vote.
VOTE: Voided

[SleepyKrew]

Vote: SleepyKrew

I don't like you right now.

That's a pretty big sheep.

[SleepyKrew]

Or are you mad that I caught your scumbuddy?

[SleepyKrew]

Um, a) It can't be a sheep, no one else has voted you or mentioned you.
b) We just finished a game together. I was joking about that.

This seems very defensive, seeing as I'm not even voting you.

[SleepyKrew]

I want to see TSQ drunkpost, actually.
This LordChronos thing:
I called it a sheep as a joke. He said he didn't like me. The joke is that that applies to a lot of people. His defense was fine, but I decided to reactiontest (albeit not a very good one, looking back) by saying he overreacted.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Jedo
diediedie
Zang is scummy too.
Is Voided voting yet?

[SleepyKrew]

Oh yeah, she's voting TSQ, which might be worse than not voting.

[SleepyKrew]

I'm sheeping the Jedo vote because everyone commented on it before I did.
Zang is scummy because of his voting me for being serious, and then saying people shouldn't be held accountable in RVS.
I was hoping for an actual scummy overreaction, and that did not come.
Now, has it occurred to you that maybe TSQ has a reason for not telling the Town why I'm town? While I expect an explanation later, I don't need it right now.
So Jedo, cool extrascummy post. Die.

[SleepyKrew]

IS isn't playing like the townIS I've played with...
Cool, a bandwagon on me.

[SleepyKrew]

Voided or Jedo. Which one?

[SleepyKrew]

The point was that I was saying you should kill him because he's stupid.

Onto serious business:

Voided or Jedo. Which one?

Mind explaining why it's me?

Mind explaining why, up to this point in the game, you'd done nothing but vote TSQ when he invited you to? And the second time was before his time frame was even up.

PBug gets me.

?

post 80 by skrew is bad bad bad scumsuckscummy. note the subtle change in language "now has it occurred to you that maybe tsq has a reason for not telling the town why I'm town?" That's weasel words, folks. I never said that krew was town. I said he had done the most town thing I'd seen so far on early day 1. Those two statements are so vastly different that it is astounding. Here he is also implying that I might have some role based info that says he is town, and this is at best trying to give himself undeserved townie points and at worst role fishing.

Major FOS: Krew here.

That was a misunderstanding on my part, I thought you said I was a townread. Since you didn't want to disclose it, I figured you might be a DayCop, and I didn't like the wagon building on you. My reasoning was wrong, sowwy.

Krew's post 96 is also an awful, whiney "woe is me post." However, both townies and scummies have been known to use appeals to emotion when they are being pressured.

Actually, I say that when I get wagoned for no good reason.

So UT, anything else to say besides commenting on the DayVig joke?

Seeing as we're doing this, I'll compile my suspects from who I want lynched most to least:
Voided/Jedo (I'm fine with either one at this point)
Zang
smallpeople

cyberbob needs to get out or be quasi-raped

[SleepyKrew]

Deja vu.

[SleepyKrew]

Hey Zang, let Voided defend himself, otherwise we'll figure out you two are scumbuddies really quick
I also laugh at these people trying to understand IS
And one more smiley for good measure

[SleepyKrew]

The whole accountableinRVS thing. And add defending Voided to the list.
May I ask the same question?

[SleepyKrew]

Anything else TSQ?

[SleepyKrew]

God Zang, are you scum or just stupid?

[SleepyKrew]

Good eye IS.

[SleepyKrew]

Look at the buddying. Voided or Zang, Jedo can wait.

[SleepyKrew]

Oh, I'm still on Jedo?
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Zang

[SleepyKrew]

I didn't touch it because Zang is being an idiot. Mafia can buddy with their partners. Though I do have a question. Zang, to me, that seems like you know 100% for sure that Voided is Town.

[SleepyKrew]

SleepyKrew was more of a RVS vote, but I found him null, so I switched.

But why did you vote Jedo?

I find him the most suspicious. A feeling.

A 'feeling'. Not that incredibly scummy statement he made?

[SleepyKrew]

Do you have any prior off-site Mafia experience?

[SleepyKrew]

Links please.

[SleepyKrew]

Okay, only one completed game...
I'll look into that.

[SleepyKrew]

And which account is you?

[SleepyKrew]

Buddying is between mafia and the town but you think we're both scum.

So you're town. How do you know that Voided is town too? He might be scum, which makes my buddying theory correct, no?
Also: Never say 'Mafia wuld nvr do dat lulzorz!' because they can just WIFOM the hell out of you.
Observe: TSQ is awesome. TSQ is always right. TSQ is the best player. I will sheep TSQ to eternity. I have just buddied. I cannot be scum now, no?
Now about the alignment thing, did you ever address the issue IS brought up or did you let Voided handle that for you?

[SleepyKrew]

Hey IS, why are you so much more aggressive than in the game I've played with you?

[SleepyKrew]

Yes, but you weren't

this

aggressive, and your posts were much shorter and more tunnel-y.

[SleepyKrew]

I'm not trying to psychoanalyze you, I'm just curious why your play is so different. And you aren't explaining. Hmm...

[SleepyKrew]

@IS

I was away over the weekend. I may have forgotten to post that here, but I did change it in my sig. I'll try to get a longer analysis post up later today, but it's my birthday and my aunt is coming to visit us, so it might have to wait til tomorrow.

So you had time for this:

Targeted Nacho, succeeded. Tired now, will post tomorrow.

But not this game?

PEDIT: Now

that's

the IS I've played with.

[SleepyKrew]

Care to comment on recent developments?

[SleepyKrew]

Sorry, I thought that was your catch-up post.

[SleepyKrew]

Alright then.
Do something else UT.

[SleepyKrew]

Do you WANT to be killed?

[SleepyKrew]

Then please, PLEASE, contribute more.

[SleepyKrew]

You've narrowed it down to me or IS...?
What of Voided? Of Zang? Jedo?

[SleepyKrew]

Zang, don't act like you don't remember saying someone isn't town or scum.

[SleepyKrew]

And which account is you?

Also: cyberbob?

[SleepyKrew]

Zang, don't act like you don't remember saying someone isn't town or scum.

No, I don't. Once again, where specifically are you talking about?

When you said someone wasn't town but wasn't scum either.
And yes, that's all I'm going to address.
IS, can I get a list of reads on everyone?

[SleepyKrew]

I meant town/scum/null >.>

[SleepyKrew]

And everyone else...

[SleepyKrew]

Also: No LCscum?

[SleepyKrew]

Which question would you like me to answer?
Very nice exaggeration.

[SleepyKrew]

Now you admit that I ignore most of it, that's not the same as ignoring everything. Nice lie
The Mafia motivation is WIFOM and defending their buddy to keep them alive.

[SleepyKrew]

IS

[SleepyKrew]

Oh shit, we're that close to deadline already?
Yeah, I'd be willing to vote Jedo.

[SleepyKrew]

If Ender is a VT, we should massnameclaim, no?
Also, I don't know the current VC, is it safe for me to vote Jedo?

[SleepyKrew]

I don't see how a nameclaim can hurt?
Also, by my count, Jedo is L-3.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Jedo
L-2

[SleepyKrew]

Please explain how a massnameclaim is bad if Ender is a VT/fake claim. Are you suggesting we wait until tomorrow?

[SleepyKrew]

I was actually recently in an Artemis Fowl game where Artemis Jr. was Vanilla.
Zang, the more information people are forced to give, the easier it is to catch them in a lie. How would it hurt?

[SleepyKrew]

Hey Zang.
Wanna hammer?

[SleepyKrew]

Claiming VT makes him town? Really Zang? Didn't you JUST say Mafia could have fakeclaims and Ender could be a VT?

[SleepyKrew]

So you'd rather no lynch Zang?
PEDIT: IS, what is the name of your faction? NOBODY ELSE ANSWER THIS
Also IS, deadline is almost up, so be ready to hammer quickly.

[SleepyKrew]

IS is willing to hammer.

[SleepyKrew]

LC, PBuG,, Cyberbob, TSQ, SleepyKrew, UT
Who else?

[SleepyKrew]

IS, DONT YOU FUCKING DARE AVOID THAT QUESTION
UT, that's why I asked the question. I want faction name nao just to make sure.

[SleepyKrew]

(expired on 2011-07-21 23:00:00)

[SleepyKrew]

We increase his chances of seeing through us if we keep talking about it >.>
PEDIT: Ghost is right.
PEDIT2: lolno Zang. It's Jedo or bust today.

[SleepyKrew]

Two days until deadline, Jedo is at L-1.

[SleepyKrew]

Oh God.
The way IS suddenly stopped posting.
Oh God.

[SleepyKrew]

To those that will try to defend him, he's been in Coney for a while now. He only has two ongoing games in Coney, and one is in Night.

[SleepyKrew]

IS FACTION NAME NOW
I don't care about Jedo, he's getting lynched, don't put words in my mouth. Just answer the question.

[SleepyKrew]

You talk as if I didn't say I should be lynched regardless of my claim

SEE ZANG

[SleepyKrew]

Holy. Fucking. Shit.
IS is prob-scum, and add the "you think I'm a bug?" thing to the list.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: IS
How many votes are on me?

[SleepyKrew]

GhostWriter, Jedo the Jedi, Voidedmafia, smallpeople, Zang, IS
L-1
DA FUCK
Claim forthocming, I need to see how to spell my name.

[SleepyKrew]

No point hiding from me, for I am

Nikolai Delphiki

. I want to prove my worth to the rest of Dragon Army, so I do some snooping and investigating on my own. However, I'm trying to work on my self-confidence, so I don't allow anyone to help me. I'm a

Macho Cop

, so don't try protecting me.

[SleepyKrew]

He's the guy that actually turns out to be Bean's brother.

[SleepyKrew]

UT, I'm L-1.

[SleepyKrew]

LC? Some random scum?
FUCK

[SleepyKrew]

How am I 'playing like scum'?

[SleepyKrew]

I want you to tell me. Clearly and concisely.

[SleepyKrew]

He's a supporting character in Ender's Game >.>

[SleepyKrew]

I swear I remember him. But even if he's not in Ender's Game, the mod has said that Shadow is also in this game, and he was major in Shadow.

[SleepyKrew]

I can't find Nikolai in Game, so I guess I was wrong.

[SleepyKrew]

Is this encompassing the entire series or just the first?

...based off of Orson Scott Card's

Ender's Game

, and its companion novel,

Ender's Shadow

...

Just those two.

BAM

[SleepyKrew]

Jedo, that case is a piece of shit.

[SleepyKrew]

I swear I remember him. But even if he's not in Ender's Game, the mod has said that Shadow is also in this game, and he was major in Shadow.

No he fucking wasn't. He only mattered, literally, because of being Bean's first friend at Battle School and eventually being Bean's brother. He, altogether, played a fairly minor role. His character was created to help make Bean feel more human and less robotic.

I've corrected myself on the matter.

[SleepyKrew]

You tell me case is in post you voted me. Now you admit that case is shit, and you make new case. Cool.
PEDIT: It's been a while since I read the books, I let Google guide me.

[SleepyKrew]

IS
FACTION
NAME

[SleepyKrew]

IS, you still willing to hammer Jedo?

[SleepyKrew]

God damn that is such a shitty role claim, but im willing to believe it. Keep pushing on him though Scumwriter, looking good there.

Unvote: Krew
Vote: Scumwriter

If he is doing something pro-town, why are you voting for him?

It was sarcasm.

Krew, I stand by the stuff written there. I'm just adding more for your benefit.

You stand by a case you admit is shit?

[SleepyKrew]

IS
FACTION
NAME

Now do you see how he ignores people?

IS- Regardless of whether you say it's sarcasm. I still think that what he's doing is pro-town.

It was pretty obvious he was ignoring people. But this is different.

[SleepyKrew]

I called it shit. Instead of saying it wasn't shit, you just said my case was shit too.

[SleepyKrew]

omygoddropthewifom

[SleepyKrew]

That's not what you said.
I've caught you backpeddling TWICE now.
IS, I ask again, willing to hammer?

[SleepyKrew]

I lol at LC's catch up. I'll explain more when I have time.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Jedo
So IS lynch isn't happening, back on Jedo.
LC, willing to hammer if need-be?

[SleepyKrew]

Hammering Jedo?
I'm L-2 I think.

[SleepyKrew]

Spoiler: Ugly Long Response Inset In A Quote For LC

#130 - Krew makes list of scum suspects without providing reasoning for any of them

I'd called them all out before that post (except smallpeople).

#146 - Krew buddying IS possibly?

Actually, that was me mocking Voided.

#187 - More rolefishing from SleepyKrew

'More'? I don't recall you saying I fished before this. And it's not rolefishing, it's a potential scumslip.

#199 - SleepyKrew strawmans Zang's argument. He's not saying that your buddying argument is bad because he knows that Voided is town but because it just doesn't make sense for two mafia members (which you think they are) to buddy.

As I've told Zang, leads to WIFOMfest.

#209 - @Sleepy : That game is at a significantly more important stage than this one.

K.

#243 - SleepyKrew implies he thinks I'm scum, but no reasons? Or is this just expectations based on IS's comment about me lurking?

I don't think you're scum, but IS does. So I asked why you weren't on IS's list.

Also, main character as VT?

Artemis Fowl Mafia

#291 - Sleepy attacks IS for not posting for a few hours. Lolwhat?

If you read the question I asked hi, and noticed he was online the entire time...

#294 - Sleepy is asking for IS's faction name for some reason. More fishing from SK.

Well then LC, what's

your

faction name? You obviously don't see the potential slip that UT and I do.

#303 - SK claims a PR without being asked for claim. /facepalm

I panicked at L-1

Also, LC, you might want to re-re-read. You missed some important stuff.

[SleepyKrew]

Da hell is cyberbob?
Also, allow me to appeal to logic.
We have at least 7 people that think Jedo is scum.
We have at least 6 people that think I am scum.
I'm a claimed Cop.
Jedo is a claimed VT.
Save me for later?

[SleepyKrew]

LC:
I'm not saying it's likely, I'm saying it's plausible.
I was watching him. He went from PMs, to Coney, to various other things, before finally posting here. And what about the fact that he still hasn't answered?
I want to determine if you're scum or not. Not seeing the slip is either a scumslip also or just being stupid.

IS:
Mods have to inform us of bastard/special mechanics, don't they? I thought this game was straight-forward.
Now answer both questions please:
Faction name?
Willing to hammer Jedo?

[SleepyKrew]

Also LC:
Willing to hammer Jedo?

[SleepyKrew]

I just want to make sure we don't get a NL bob.

[SleepyKrew]

As I've told Zang, leads to WIFOMfest.

Here's what I don't get. If I defend someone you think is town, you call it buddying and me scum. If I defend someone who you think is scum, then you call it buddying and me scum. With your logic, I can't defend anybody that I think is town without you calling it buddying. As the town it is our job to lynch scum and not lynch town. How am I supposed to not lynch town if you say that I'm buddying when I try to do it.

First off, I'm not using buddying as the sole reason you're scum. I think both you and Voided are scum, and the buddying simply strengthens my read. Second, why not let people defend themselves?

[SleepyKrew]

Accountability in RVS and scummy behavior that I'm too lazy to dig up, plus the buddying.
No, you let others defend themself. Otherwise they can just go 'wat they said' and not have to feel the pressure.

[SleepyKrew]

You did it when he defended you.

[SleepyKrew]

No, he didn't say "What he said". He didn't even bother addressing it at all after you handled it Voided.

[SleepyKrew]

UT list of reads?

[SleepyKrew]

hesnottownbuthesnotscumeither

[SleepyKrew]

Please state the nulls and the towns.
Voided isn't scum?

[SleepyKrew]

Also, why is IS scum? Is it because of that thing that apparently only us two noticed?

[SleepyKrew]

You didn't respond to it.
God this is annoying. Can I just lurk till deadline?

[SleepyKrew]

And then you were questioned about it.

[SleepyKrew]

People I'm Willing to Lynch:
Jedo
Zang
Voided
IS
smallpeople

Call me if you need me.

[SleepyKrew]

Did I say never lynch me for I am Cop?
No.
You're making it really hard to lurk.

[SleepyKrew]

Or, y'know, a real Cop.
Nice subtle-WIFOM.

[SleepyKrew]

If Ender is a VT, why can't Nikolai be a Cop? I even explained it with the flavor!

[SleepyKrew]

There just is no convincing some people.
Can I change my claim to be more acceptable?

[SleepyKrew]

No, I called you out on me calling your case shit and you agreeing.
What does this have to do with that?
/flail

[SleepyKrew]

I'm not saying my claim is better than yours. I'm just saying the Nikolai can be a plausible Macho Cop through my supplied flavor.

[SleepyKrew]

Please explain why my flavor is wrong.

[SleepyKrew]

And how is 'he is trying to prove himself and work on his self-confidence' incorrect?

[SleepyKrew]

There is no working with some people.
*change claim to VT*
/flail

[SleepyKrew]

17 hours left...
I'm having to justify the claim because people don't believe and want to lynch the Cop.

[SleepyKrew]

YOU IDIOT
THE LYNCH TODAY IS EITHER ME OR JEDO
SO VOTE JEDO
AND LEARN TO PLAY MAFIA

[SleepyKrew]

DA FUCK
YOU REALLY THINK ME CHANGING THE CLAIM WAS SERIOUS
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
VIGBAIT

[SleepyKrew]

DEITYKABUTO ALT?

[SleepyKrew]

OH SO YOURE A NEW IDIOT
COOL

[SleepyKrew]

YOU BUTTHURT?

[SleepyKrew]

(expired on 2011-07-21 23:00:00)

[SleepyKrew]

SO APPARENTLY BOTH MODS ARE V/LA
TROLOLOLOLOL

[SleepyKrew]

Why would the mods being V/LA extend the deadline?

[SleepyKrew]

PBuG hasn't been on for 10 days because his internet is broken.

[SleepyKrew]

So? How does that affect the speed that we lynch at?

[SleepyKrew]

Pretty sure I'm L-2.
Just hammer Jedo -.-

[SleepyKrew]

You forgot LC.
I think he's not voting.

[SleepyKrew]

Appeal to Stuff:
Please lynch Jedo today.
I fully understand that you want me dead before LYLO.
But please let me get some innocents for you before then.

[SleepyKrew]

(expired on 2011-07-21 23:00:00)

Might as well get it on this page too.

[SleepyKrew]

We need a miracle now...
IS, please...

[SleepyKrew]

Please don't lynch me...
Yes I'm appealing to emotion.
Hell, I'm appealing to everything.
But I'm the fucking Cop, let me at least fake some results before you kill me.

[SleepyKrew]

Or, yknow, we coulda not lynched me.

[SleepyKrew]

GO TOWN
/bah
/ragequit

[SleepyKrew]

Yay
Remind me not to fakeclaim Cop as a Hider anymore.