Mini 1206: Death at a Funeral Mafia(Killed)

[gandalf5166]

Confirm.

[gandalf5166]

Why blinker?

[gandalf5166]

I have a piece of info to bring up, but I want to make sure everyone's had their little bit of RVS fun and that we have all our replacements in beforehand.

[gandalf5166]

Unfortunately, the fact that I have real info is taking away all my creativity, so you won't see any of my normal shenanigans. :/

[gandalf5166]

I have a piece of info to bring up, but I want to make sure everyone's had their little bit of RVS fun and that we have all our replacements in beforehand.

I can't resist, but: Miller claim?

No, I would do that first post no matter what.

[gandalf5166]

Why shuffle your feet gandalf?

I dont like it.

Spit it out.

Because I want to have a baseline for reactions from all the players. I want to get the most out of this info as possible.

[gandalf5166]

I say we hear the news because I don't see how it matters. If it is really helpful then the longer we have to reflect on it the better.
You know? We wouldn't halt mid game if even 1 player left.

Yes, but mid game, we already have reads. This info is pretty damning, so I want to make sure scum doesn't get away with no reaction to it because he was being replaced.

[gandalf5166]

Also, in response to Timeeater, I did a search and apparently this is a british movie. It seems weird.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0795368/

He specifically said it was NOT based on the movie. It's only in the theme queue because of the roles. Which are nowhere near normal, if my role is any indication.

[gandalf5166]

I have a one shot Daycop guilty on willow.

Vote: willow

Why would you reveal this now? Instead of waiting for everyone to show up? Even if it was a a gambit(which is what I was going to do, BTW, I don't really have any info) you would want to wait for people to show up so they could react to it. And now what if willow's scumbuddies are being replaced? You are STUPID.

VOTE: Willow

BTW, if this IS a gambit, I am going to be SO pissed, because you royally fucked it up.

[gandalf5166]

I have a one shot Daycop guilty on willow.

Vote: willow

Why would you reveal this now? Instead of waiting for everyone to show up? Even if it was a a gambit(

which is what I was going to do, BTW, I don't really have any info)

you would want to wait for people to show up so they could react to it. And now what if willow's scumbuddies are being replaced? You are STUPID.

VOTE: Willow

BTW, if this IS a gambit, I am going to be SO pissed, because you royally fucked it up.

WTF?

I was going to wait for everyone to get here, and then pretend I had a guilty result, to see how people reacted. I don't have any info.

[gandalf5166]

I have a one shot Daycop guilty on willow.

Vote: willow

Why would you reveal this now? Instead of waiting for everyone to show up? Even if it was a a gambit(

which is what I was going to do, BTW, I don't really have any info)

you would want to wait for people to show up so they could react to it. And now what if willow's scumbuddies are being replaced? You are STUPID.

VOTE: Willow

BTW, if this IS a gambit, I am going to be SO pissed, because you royally fucked it up.

WTF?

I was going to wait for everyone to get here, and then pretend I had a guilty result, to see how people reacted. I don't have any info.

WTF?

(Yes I have to repeat cause its necesarry)
(and: You do realize, we would people would of lynched you had you gone:

I HAVE A GUILTY ON WILLOW GUYS

Willow L-1

LOLOLOLOL JKIN I WAS JUST JKIN

If they did, they would have been the stupidest town ever. I've done it before. And caught scum with it, although I didn't realize it until after I died.

[gandalf5166]

@gandalf
If Cloyster did that right now would you not care?

Yes, I would be angry because he did it HORRIBLY. You do gambits to test for reactions, doing them when two players can't react is pointless. Not because he did it. And I would still think he was town.

[gandalf5166]

I don't like willows' response there at all. Even if Cloyster comes back and says it's fake, my vote is staying.

[gandalf5166]

Yes, please do fullclaim. I want to know if scum got fakeclaims.

[gandalf5166]

Unvote, Vote: Time

Also Gandalf. I didn't fuck it up.

I'm guessing this is confirmation that it was in fact fake? And I hadn't noticed Tim's response, but yeah, it does look bad....... I'm just having trouble deciding whether it looks more like a bus or scum trying to push through a lynch on town before you get back.

[gandalf5166]

Actually, it's definitely a bus. If he were trying to push it through quickly, he wouldn't have asked for a claim, especially when everybody else was forgetting about it.

[gandalf5166]

The correct response is one of two things: OMGUS, or questioning of sanity. Maybe you ignore it because you feel like it's a gambit. Snarkiness is not on the list.

[gandalf5166]

2. Gandalf was fucking with us, admitted it. He said he wasn't going to do any of his normal shenanigans. This was a lie. He shenanigan'd if I ever saw a shenanigan. He proceeded to cast suspicion on some of the players who didn't confirm, hardly a protown thing to do - (Toon Fighter and denisatp if I'm not mistake)

My read of the situation: feels like a noobscum being bored or silly and trying something stupid.

I didn't cast suspicion on them. I pointed out that IF they were scum, CC's gambit was illtimed. And yeah, I said I wasn't doing any shenanigans. I wanted people to take it seriously, because gambits don't work if everybody thinks it's a gambit.1. I'm not noobscum. 2. It's not something stupid, it's a legitimate strategy that has already caught two scum even when CC fucked it up.

[gandalf5166]

I have a one shot Daycop guilty on willow.

Vote: willow

Vote: Clamping Cloyster

Can someone explain to me why this lie was a good thing, and something that town would do? kthx

That's easy: to gather information about not only willow's reaction, but other people's reactions to willow's reaction, in order to find scum. The real question is why the hell scum would have done it. If you want to lynch CC, make sure to lynch me too, because I was going to do it.

[gandalf5166]

I didn't think it was a gambit. I thought that it was possible it was a gambit. If I knew it was a gambit, I wouldn't have originally voted for willow.

And Time: Willow WOULD know it was a gambit. If he wasn't sure, that would be a SCUMtell. You're pretty bad at bussing.

[gandalf5166]

CHECK IT OUT

IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT YOU THINK

ITS SOMETHING WE CAN TEST AND ACTUALLY VERIFY

ALSO LOOK AT LAIN'S TERRIBLE REASONING AND LINE OF THOUGHT. HE IS SCARED.

CAPS

Why test it on tf and not someone we actually want lynched anyways?

[gandalf5166]

see?

also time is town due to having the balls to trust me

Lolno. If he's scum, why WOULDN'T he trust you?

[gandalf5166]

Holy shit anyone with any common sense will be able to see right through your last few posts.

Why aren't we hammering gb already

See, the irony is that despite your insistence otherwise, GB is the most obvious town player here aside from CC, and YOU'RE the obvious scum.

[gandalf5166]

I'm switching my vote when I get home.

And why is the mod replacing? It's BaM....... you don't replace.

[gandalf5166]

Unvote
VOTE: Timeater

I don't have time to read the new stuff, but there we go.

[gandalf5166]

ROFL defend your bad scum partner more. Common sense dictates we deserve replacements if there are no shows. Effectively, we'd lose two players just because they signed up and never posted. They never played the game. Doesn't count. Common sense.

Common sense is what always gets the scum.

Only there were five. Two of them were replaced at gamestart. And I don't usually pay attention to people who don't post so I had no idea whether the other three had posted or not.

[gandalf5166]

Gandalf

1. Gandalf, you usually do gambits like the one you initially planned, correct?

Not necessarily. I usually do things like that more jokingly, and I noticed that I've gotten reactions off it before that should have pointed me to scum, but I didn't notice because I was in RVS mode. So I decided to do it for real this time.

2. When someone does something you are planning on doing before you do, do you think that they are town?

No. It's just that the particular thing in question is a towntell.

3. When someone notices something you notice, and they post about it before you, does that give you a towny vibe?

Not necessarily. Unless the thing in question is a towntell.

4. If the above questions are all answered by yes, are those the reasons that you have a town vibe on CC?

Not even close.

5. Could those things be faked?

He could have done the gambit as scum. I don't see why he would have.

I'm switching my vote when I get home.

And why is the mod replacing? It's BaM....... you don't replace.

Holy shit "WE DONT NEED NO STINKING REPLACEMENTS"

GASP

AM I ASKING THE MOD TO USE THE RULESET I SIGNED UP FOR?

HOW DARE I

vote: Gandalf

updated reads:

CryMeARiver: town
gandalf5166: scum
PeregrineV: town
Toon Fighter: probably town
Clamping Cloyster: leaning town atm
kiwieagle: obvtown
denisatp: probably town
gbevilchaos: obvscum
Timeater: obvtown
Nacho Owl: obvtown
Tazaro: town
willows_weep: scum
Medicaited Lain: obvscum

@Tazaro

So let me get this straight. You think I'm scum because you've "had a row" with two people sometime in your past when you were scum? Cmon dude.

Come on

. I am pretty certain they are both scum, though no one else is willing to pursue that at the moment (inb4 gb/lain HUR HUR WELL THAT MEANS WE'RE TOWN).

oh gandalf. oh you.

Unfortunately, the fact that I have real info is taking away all my creativity, so you won't see any of my normal shenanigans. :/

See the quote right after this one.

I was going to wait for everyone to get here, and then pretend I had a guilty result, to see how people reacted. I don't have any info.

So you were lying about the shenanigans. You lied.

Yeah...... That's how gambits work. You lie.

He specifically said it was NOT based on the movie. It's only in the theme queue because of the roles. Which are nowhere near normal, if my role is any indication.

Nice breadcrumb for a get out of jail free card.

I was breadcrumbing my fake role, which was going to be a dayJOAT. My real role isn't too bizarre, although it's not something most people would expect.

I didn't cast suspicion on them. I pointed out that IF they were scum, CC's gambit was illtimed. And yeah, I said I wasn't doing any shenanigans. I wanted people to take it seriously, because gambits don't work if everybody thinks it's a gambit.1. I'm not noobscum. 2. It's not something stupid, it's a legitimate strategy that has already caught two scum even when CC fucked it up.

You said you had "critical information" about someone who was being replaced. You were going to do shenanigans but CC beat you to the punch. Just because CC did it doesn't somehow absolve you of what you said earlier. Thats not logical.

No I didn't. I said I wanted to wait for the people getting replaced to be replaced. What do you mean it doesn't absolve me? What do I need to be absolved of?

See, the irony is that despite your insistence otherwise, GB is the most obvious town player here aside from CC, and YOU'RE the obvious scum.

We'll see about that when my suspects start flipping scum. Chainsaw more. Scum caught.

Oh my god. You're really using chainsaw as an attack before you see a flip? At this point, I'm wondering if it's possible to fake being this stupid. The sad part is that this is your strongest point. I'm defending him because I THINK HES TOWN. WHAT A CONCEPT.

Why test it on tf and not someone we actually want lynched anyways?

I believe I already said why. Asking a question you already know the answer to just to make yourself look useful/post fluff.

Yeah, somebody might hammer, and actually get the person we want lynched lynched. The horror.

scum caught.

The only point in your case that even begins to make sense is dependent on gb being scum. Which is hilarious.

I'm town who jumped at the chance to confirm something confirmable.

That teaches us nothing. More like, you thought you could spout this bullshit for towncred, so you got a little overzealous to confirm something that didn't need to be confirmed for any reason at all.

And as for ML, I honestly haven't noticed her. Sometimes certain kinds of posters just do that for me. I don't even take note of them until I'm doing ISOs or somebody specifically asks me about them and I'm like "they were in the game? Oh yeah, they said this and this and this...."

[gandalf5166]

Really, you're unvoting because he claimed jailkeeper? Because he couldn't possibly be making the most obvious mafia roleblocker fakeclaim in the history of ever.

[gandalf5166]

We may find out he's telling the truth if he gets nightkilled anyway. Also, it's not like we cannot treat him like a vig that has to follow instructions; instruct him to jailkeep whom we want him to by

Jailkeep motion: someone scummy's name

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Ummm........ That's the stupidest idea ever. If he IS town, we want him doing what he wants. If he's scum, why would he listen to us?

[gandalf5166]

If YOU think he is scum, YOU should support him listening to us under pain of being lynched.

No, because if he's scum HE HAS NO REASON TO LISTEN TO US

[gandalf5166]

Eh, I guess that even if he is scum unless he wants to out himself we can guarantee that one person per night won't die.

[gandalf5166]

Jason, I hope you excuse the fact that I'm not really reading your catchup post indepth..... If you have any specific questions for me go ahead and ask outside of there cause I didn't notice. You did notice where CC said his investigation was fake, right?

[gandalf5166]

Im not sold on that idea TBH. I am thinking more likely 1 is scum fake claiming, and one is real.

If Tim flips town, I'm not lynching GB. There could be two town jailkeepers.

[gandalf5166]

Im not sold on that idea TBH. I am thinking more likely 1 is scum fake claiming, and one is real.

If Tim flips town, I'm not lynching GB. There could be two town jailkeepers.

Yes, but go back over and look at all the reactions from the point GB claimed, and tell me what you see.

What do you mean?

[gandalf5166]

Mmk


Gimme a second while I look for vague breadcrumbs.

-__-
If I die you better all attend my funeral. And be sad. Very sad.

Oh, fucking A.

And there are definitely two town JKs, because GB is definitely town.

[gandalf5166]

unvote

VOTE: Medicated Lain

I would ask if this was role-related, but you already claimed your role.......

[gandalf5166]

Why would taz defend a buddy who as far as he was aware had just gotten copped? If I had been willow's partner, I would have started bussing immediately.

[gandalf5166]

Actually, I would see the fact that there are two jailkeepers as a near guarantee that all other roles are likely unique.

[gandalf5166]

@Owl: Because gambits work better if pressure is applied. But I'll admit, that is pretty funny >.>

[gandalf5166]

CMAR is town. End of story.

If you haven't gotten his breadcrumbs, you're stupid, but just be assured he needs to be protected every night and lynching him would be a horrible idea.

[gandalf5166]

Is taz being voted entirely for the fact that he was roleblocked last night?

[gandalf5166]

Is taz being voted entirely for the fact that he was roleblocked last night?

Actually, I've voting him for bringing up mafia no-killing before gbevilchoas had even announced that he had roleblocked Taz.

There are many reasons why a No-kill could have occurred, and Taz pre-defending sounds to me like he was trying to formulate excuses before his jailkeeping was even announced.

This is a good point. Had you said that before?

Unvote
VOTE: Taz

[gandalf5166]

Okay, even though it sucks that he won't be able to vote tomorrow, I have to laugh....... Hahahahahahaha. hey, we get a doublelynch.

VOTE: Kiwi

Why is scum that can't hammer not possible? It makes scum weaker sure, but not excessively.

[gandalf5166]

I haven't seen any role that can't hammer before. Why would not being able to hammer break the game for or against scum?

[gandalf5166]

This game got unsubscribed somehow......

[gandalf5166]

This game got unsubscribed somehow......

A prod dodge in disguise.

I was making a post, but then I found out captain America was starting in twenty minutes.

[gandalf5166]

Still not seeing Kiwi case, would rather lynch clamping today.

Speaking of clamping, where is he?

Why would you want to Lynch clamping? He's almost certainly going to be modkilled. Lynching him would be a waste.

[gandalf5166]

I think it's obvious that Jason's post was in the wrong game. What's wrong with ML's?

[gandalf5166]

But then he did let the day continue after a town modkill( when really he should have been lynched before he was modkilled), so I think he just used that ruleset because it was easy to copy and paste.

[gandalf5166]

Oh, and he granted a deadline extension, when half the point of BaM is no more than one week days.

[gandalf5166]

Kiwi and willow. I'm lazy and I've commented on both of them in the past, so I'm not going to say why. Yankee seems weird. He'd probably be a third, just on gut.

[gandalf5166]

Haha and I was debating recruiting ML.........

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why was it ended?

The mod was cheating for the town. I told hascow, and he shut it down. I just wanted the modkills to happen and the day to end, but w/e.

[gandalf5166]

You gave the town an extra lynch...... How is that not cheating for the town?

[gandalf5166]

I would not go as far as cheating. As mods we all make mistakes that can fuck a game big time. I have in the past.

Mistakes are one thing. Blatantly saying "fuck my ruleset" is cheating.