Mini 1206: Death at a Funeral Mafia(Killed)

[kiwieagle]

So many hydras!
/confirm

[kiwieagle]

Hmm....


I got info as well you might wanna know.

[kiwieagle]

I have a one shot Daycop guilty on willow.

Vote: willow

Why would you reveal this now? Instead of waiting for everyone to show up? Even if it was a a gambit(

which is what I was going to do, BTW, I don't really have any info)

you would want to wait for people to show up so they could react to it. And now what if willow's scumbuddies are being replaced? You are STUPID.

VOTE: Willow

BTW, if this IS a gambit, I am going to be SO pissed, because you royally fucked it up.

WTF?

[kiwieagle]

I have a one shot Daycop guilty on willow.

Vote: willow

Why would you reveal this now? Instead of waiting for everyone to show up? Even if it was a a gambit(

which is what I was going to do, BTW, I don't really have any info)

you would want to wait for people to show up so they could react to it. And now what if willow's scumbuddies are being replaced? You are STUPID.

VOTE: Willow

BTW, if this IS a gambit, I am going to be SO pissed, because you royally fucked it up.

WTF?

I was going to wait for everyone to get here, and then pretend I had a guilty result, to see how people reacted. I don't have any info.

WTF?

(Yes I have to repeat cause its necesarry)
(and: You do realize, we would people would of lynched you had you gone:

I HAVE A GUILTY ON WILLOW GUYS

Willow L-1

LOLOLOLOL JKIN I WAS JUST JKIN

[kiwieagle]

EPWOP: you do realize, people would of most probably lynched had you gone:

[kiwieagle]

unvote
VOTE: Willow


and

@gandalf
If Cloyster did that right now would you not care?

[kiwieagle]

L-1???
Wow, go away for some hours.
That's a nice gambit Cloyster.
Claiming a role that cannot be proven without us wasting our night resources. Also a role that does not tempt a mafia kill as it is 1 shot. Very clean.

I don't believe you have this role. Two reasons: If you were a 1 shot cop during the DAY why would you use it the beginning of day 1 especially at a time where we do not have all of the players, and other confirmed players have yet to post.

Last reason:

I am L-1 and I am town.

So, please give me more information on the angle you're playing.

thats all?

[kiwieagle]

so your investigation is BS?

[kiwieagle]

L-1???
Wow, go away for some hours.
That's a nice gambit Cloyster.
Claiming a role that cannot be proven without us wasting our night resources. Also a role that does not tempt a mafia kill as it is 1 shot. Very clean.

I don't believe you have this role. Two reasons: If you were a 1 shot cop during the DAY why would you use it the beginning of day 1 especially at a time where we do not have all of the players, and other confirmed players have yet to post.

Last reason:

I am L-1 and I am town.

So, please give me more information on the angle you're playing.

I still dont like the reaction.

[kiwieagle]

Also Willow + Cloyster scumteam maybe.

And I'm out. I mean it this time.

Very possible.

(This is what I would do:

Willow lynch -> flips scum -> timeater/cloyster
Willow lynch -> flips town -> Gandalf)

This is why I would still be down for a willow lynch.

[kiwieagle]

Kiwi:

You do realize, we would people would of lynched you had you gone:I HAVE A GUILTY ON WILLOW GUYS
Willow L-1
LOLOLOLOL JKIN I WAS JUST JKIN

This is what Cloyster just did?

I got info as well you might wanna know

Might? Do tell!

I feel that Kiwi and Cloyster are working together.
1) It looks like Cloyster beat Kiwi to the punch of fake claiming for data.
2) Kiwi said to gandalf

If Cloyster did that right now would you not care?

then well...next page and some hours later Cloyster revealed the ploy.
3) Kiwi made 2-3 posts and ~5hrs after noticing Cloyster's claim BEFORE voting for me.
This vote came after Tazaro asked for a safety lock on L votes and no new information to substantiate the difference in time frame (from Kiwi recognizing Cloys claim to voting). It feels as if Kiwi wanted to ensure the claim went as far as possible to get the most use.

Kiwi, why did you tag on another vote at L2? That's pretty dangerous even if you and Cloyster weren't together.

1) I was never gonna fakeclaim data. Its something you might wanna know if... ehh later.
2) So your saying just because I knew it was a fakeclaim, I had inside info?
During your "defence" you implied the same.

[kiwieagle]

I would rather get willow, then based n his aligment etc. etc.

[kiwieagle]

I'm concerned about folks going ahead to put an L2 and definitely L1 vote on me/anyone without anything to substantiate the claim.
Considering that Gandalf, Cloyster and Kiwi all claimed some kind of knowledge. That's a lot of cause for a level of caution/willingness to gather more information. Regardless of the intent (info gathering for either side) it was dangerous and unnecessary.

I still would like to know what info Kiwi has considering they mentioned it. Why bring it up, when you did, and then say 'later' in a fashion that leaves me aching to know?
My thoughts: if you're town with an ability there was no reason to bring it up so soon. If I had something important to let the town know, I would try and make it apparent only when absolutely necessary.
If you're scum then you could be planning some kind of gambit to use later on.

Considering how you've introduced the potential information, I do not see how mentioning it can be used for information gathering (other than knowing that I have low tolerance for being told partial information).

btw

unvote

If Cloyster did not get back in time to report the ploy then D2 would have been really easy. Thing is...I don't know why someone would pull something like that without knowing they could be online to track danger level. That's 2 town losses for no reason.

How are you so sure Cloyster is town?

and I dont have an ability.
Its a detraction.
I am a priest of some sort.
The only different thing from VT is that I cant hammer as a priest.

[kiwieagle]

Uhh sure. I become confirmed townie if i do that.

(unless I get modkilled for doing it)

[kiwieagle]

Can we have a VC please?

[kiwieagle]

oh wow

so many inactive people

[kiwieagle]

VOTE: timeater

[kiwieagle]

see?

also time is town due to having the balls to trust me

[kiwieagle]

unvote

Those who calling us scumbuddies because. Time trusted me:

I wasnt planning on doing it on Time, we were gonna do it on toon inicially.

[kiwieagle]

Wow phone posting makes my grammar horrendous.

It wasnt directed to you gb, more to medicated latin.

[kiwieagle]

Nah, willow bandwagon doesn't really show much except that kiwi looks super scummy from it and M Lain is pretty pro town.

How do I look super scummy from it?

[kiwieagle]

I will look at the Taz situation when I get home from work. I still think Time is the right choice for today.

@Kiwi: my post was not intended to criticize you, but simply to point out, that regardless of whether you are scum or not, Time's motives behind his actions are likely scum motivated. I actually even stated at the end of my post that I find it less likely that you are scum with him. Though your defensive attitude is dually noted ^^

"Defensive attitude"?
lol

I dont care if it was to criticize me or not.
You point out in your post that me and Time might be scumbuddies because he TRUSTED my claim,

He just offered to be test dummy because he had most votes on him and it was the quickest way to "test" my claim.
If he completely trusted me wouldnt he had offered to be test dummy since the begining?

[kiwieagle]

UNVOTE

VOTE: CryMeARiver

What are you on kiwi about?

For being scummy. The claim will allow him to live for now, however he's not necessarily townsided.

Also, why abandon your Peregrine "voting gambiters" vote for a vote on me for pressuring without clear reasoning? You think I'm scummier than Peregrine now?

what the fuck CMAR?

Thats all?

[kiwieagle]

@Time- Honestly, MedicatedLain seems like normal town.

@Taz- You really need to give reasons other than "He's voting me and I'm town". Also, you need to vote for someone other than people voting for you. Right now, you may or may not be scum, but you're sure acting like you are.
Also,

in a single post

, please give your reads about players so far and why. And yes, this is a test.

@Kiwi- Trusting your claim does not make Time town.

Would scum put themselves in a position in which they can get lynched?

Dont think so.

[kiwieagle]

VOTE: time
HAMMER BWHAHAHAHAAHHA






































ok jokin


Can someone make a good case on why town is scum?

I dont see him as scum.
Scum would not put themselves in a such a position.

[kiwieagle]

EPWOP: on why time time is scum

[kiwieagle]

Alright Nacho, I will take your post to mean that you are likely dumbtown.

I have phrased it multiple ways, but peregrine just did a really good job of making it simple.

Waiting til the end of the day does not mean until the deadline is just about there, it means waiting until we have a candidate that seems worth testing it out on. GB also already made the argument that it is just town cred that didn't really involve any work, because it could have been tested later, at a safer time. That argument is regardless of who the lynch candidate actually was.. whether time or toon... because time as scum, knowing that kiwi is lying is much more likely than time as scum taking a risk that could lynch an innocent player, which is at the very least anti-town in itself.

Meanwhile, this talk on the rule set is certainly very interesting... Why try arguing with the mod to kill off players? I have mixed feelings about whether scum would do that so blatently, but I'm leaning towards no.

This post was written with things coming in: Welcome new players! I'm also excited to hear from some new sources... though I must say, I'm rather enjoying this town ^^

Sigh.

It was because if I was lying then wouldnt I had been lynched?

It was to test my claim.

and you still havent answered:
"Why would scum want to put themselves in a position where its possible to get lynched in case I lied?"

also due to the role "Priest" you can rest assured all roles will be medieval.
Townies as peasants etc.

[kiwieagle]

Its a medival game.


Its possible.

[kiwieagle]

See?



I knew timeater was not scum...

[kiwieagle]

Why would GBEscum claim JK? What game would contain 2 JK's? Either way, he shouldn't make it to LYLO. And once we get a PR report claim, we can have tests.

Until then, I suggest this JK be on me

.

why?

[kiwieagle]

Mmk


Gimme a second while I look for vague breadcrumbs.

[kiwieagle]

unvote

VOTE: Medicated Lain

[kiwieagle]

Why would scum target CMAR?

[kiwieagle]

unvote

VOTE: Medicated Lain

I would ask if this was role-related, but you already claimed your role.......

Gut.

[kiwieagle]

I do not think personally that GBE is scum, it just doesnt make sense to me, as I stated yesterday. It must mean that there is two jail keepers, which means it is possible that this may happen again with other roles, so we must be careful when and if we counterclaim. I do find it odd at how persistantly yesterday kiwi defended timeater, it almost seems like he may have been defending him because he knew he was town and was going to get lynched by his behavior and wanted to gain town rep by being the only person defending him. Your defenses made no sense to me personally, and you failed to acknowledge reasons we said we thought he was scum. But that is not a strong scum read for me, just something I thought I would point out that no one else has so far.

GBE's night action against taz does make me suspect him more since I do think GBE is town, but I need to go back and personally ISO taz before I make a formal decision. The way I see it, two things happened last night, Taz was scum and was going to kill a townie but got blocked by GBE, or GBE is scum and is trying to save himself by performing no night kill so he can claim that he blocked a scum and get another townie killed. Either way if Taz flips scum, GBE is town and if GBE flips scum, then Taz is town. Those are my thoughts so far into this day.

My defense was:

"Where the fuck is the attack?"

Cause I saw NO attack, justt blatant sheeping.

and I defended time since the begining, how was I supposed to know everyone was gonna sheep like a bawz?

[kiwieagle]

Yankee

1. What did you think about Kiwi's earlier actions, specifically page 3
2. What do you think of my explaination of the GBE Time situation? CCing like that would be an excellent way to cover up a scum spot
3. What if Taz is town and GBE saved his life by protecting him, then they could both be town?
4. What if this is part of their plan for distancing? By placing two players on the same team on opposite sides scum can make their members seem almost confirmed town.
5. Lastly, did you consider that if both are scum, then GBE can be sure that Taz will say something to prove that he was at least blocked last night? Then again, if he does it doesn't mean they're scum together, it's just a possibility. In fact, someone should ask Taz.
6. Why are you documenting how you decide to read people so plainly? By doing that you give scum the chance to preread your moves and act so that you won't vote them.

1. Kiwi seems to want to lynch willow even after finding out it was just a gambit. He pushes for the lynch because of a bad defense, which I think willows defense is what I would do if someone pulled a gambit on me. Also in post 102 he fails to answer a very important point, that he posted several times after CC said he got a guilty on willow with fluff before finally voting. And since he waited he put willow at L-1 after we had put a L-2 cap on him, which does seem fishy now that you point it out. I had overlooked that until now.

2. You bring up good points that I have not considered. I am not very familiar with the JailKeeper role, I thought it was like a roleblocker, so I did not consider that Taz could be the target. I do think it is very unlikely that taz would be the target though since he has suspicion on him, and scum would benefit most by killing the player with the least amount of suspicion. But your point that they both may be scum is plausible, but I think unlikely.

3. Answered this in #2

4. Answered this in #2

5. I dont quite understand this question. Why would taz say he was blocked last night, especially if you post this saying that? Can you please clarify your question, I just dont know exactly what you are saying.

6. I think I do it so plainly so that I can give the town all my thoughts and how I came to them for future reference incase I am lynched or killed. Plus I want all town to have all the information it can as possible so we can make a more informed decision.

To your 1:


How was I supposed to know its a gambit?
If it he truly got guilty why cant I put him at L-1?

[kiwieagle]

@Kiwi - you put him at L-1 after you we had said no more vote on him until we get more information. He was already at L-2, and you had several opportunities to vote before you actually did, but chose not to. Why would you put him at L-1 3 posts after we put a cap on votes. That is suspicious in itself, and even when you learned it was infact a gambit your vote remained on the bandwagon. Might I suggest that since your role is that you can not hammer, you were trying to get him to as close to lynch as you could and hoping someone would quick hammer? The way you played it, and especially now that you told us your role, your role seems more like a scum role then a town role. It would make sense to balance the teams to have a scum who cant hammer, it isnt that negative of a trait for a townie.

Also Kiwi, if you are explaining your actions now to me after I question you, why did you not explain them in post 102?

Idk
I was bored I guess.



But wait:
Your whole "case" is that I put him at L-1?
Thats all?
Why does this seem very similar to timeaters scenario?
Where he does a single thing and suddenly everyone decides hes scum?

oh and:
If someone tells me he has a guilty on someone, and he gets to L-1 without THE PERSON TELLING US THE "INVESTIGATION" WAS FAKE.... then the investigation is most probably true.


Anyways:

Its maybe gb - medicated as scum team.

[kiwieagle]

Kiwi, but you didnt even give CC a chance to tell us if it was fake or not, which is why we didnt want anyone putting him at L-1 in the first place... And time did much more then one thing to make us think he was scum.

Its not my fault he decided to claim day cop, and then leave for 8 hours

[kiwieagle]

whats wrong with fake hammering?
Did you even finish reading the post?
I voted just for the "lolz" since nothing actually happens.

Also:
Your quite the quick one, once people start calling you scum.

[kiwieagle]

and thats BS many people called me "scum"

You give me bad vibes.

[kiwieagle]

EPWOP: Your not the only that called me scum yesterday, quite a few did. Just that you give me bad vibes.

[kiwieagle]

Also:


...weird isnt it.

Time was quite right on his reads.

[kiwieagle]

oh wow


I am in the VC o.o

[kiwieagle]

I went and to see if you were saying the truth.

I thought my vote didnt count.
oh well.


but still gimme a second.

[kiwieagle]

Kiwi:

You do realize, we would people would of lynched you had you gone:I HAVE A GUILTY ON WILLOW GUYS
Willow L-1
LOLOLOLOL JKIN I WAS JUST JKIN

This is what Cloyster just did?

I got info as well you might wanna know

Might? Do tell!

I feel that Kiwi and Cloyster are working together.
1) It looks like Cloyster beat Kiwi to the punch of fake claiming for data.
2) Kiwi said to gandalf

If Cloyster did that right now would you not care?

then well...next page and some hours later Cloyster revealed the ploy.
3) Kiwi made 2-3 posts and ~5hrs after noticing Cloyster's claim BEFORE voting for me.
This vote came after Tazaro asked for a safety lock on L votes and no new information to substantiate the difference in time frame (from Kiwi recognizing Cloys claim to voting). It feels as if Kiwi wanted to ensure the claim went as far as possible to get the most use.

Kiwi, why did you tag on another vote at L2? That's pretty dangerous even if you and Cloyster weren't together.

right here medicated ^^

[kiwieagle]

Timeater is scum. Every post he makes convinces me more and more.
"I'm going to interact with everyone that doesn't think I'm scum to keep them on my good sid

e, but ignore all the people calling out my scum-fail-astic plays!"

Kiwi, you obviously aren't reading what I said at all. It's scummy that Timeater trusted you so much. It would seem senseless for you to be lying, personally. But there's always a chance that you had mis interpreted your role. Or maybe you could have been planning to call it a mistake like that leaving day one empty handed except a dead innocent. The fact is, it was both a stupid and a scummy move to jeopardize our day one based on testing a fact that could have just as easily been tested at the end of the day, when a real lynch candidate exists.

Throwing himself under the wheel just made him look even more suspicious, because that means he obviously already figured nothing was going to go wrong. It seems to me, like someone with more information. And if you had read at all, you'd see that I gave both the possibility that Time is scum with you, or without you. It wasn't even attempting to attack you, just to point out that regardless of what you are, Timeater is scum. I said right after that, that it seems much more likely that he is scum without you, not with you.

why do you deflect those that call you scum?

Alright Nacho, I will take your post to mean that you are

likely dumbtown.

I have phrased it multiple ways, but peregrine just did a really good job of making it simple.

Waiting til the end of the day does not mean until the deadline is just about there, it means waiting until we have a candidate that seems worth testing it out on. GB also already made the argument that it is just town cred that didn't really involve any work, because it could have been tested later, at a safer time. That argument is regardless of who the lynch candidate actually was.. whether time or toon... because time as scum, knowing that kiwi is lying is much more likely than time as scum taking a risk that could lynch an innocent player, which is at the very least anti-town in itself.

Meanwhile, this talk on the rule set is certainly very interesting... Why try arguing with the mod to kill off players? I have mixed feelings about whether scum would do that so blatently, but I'm leaning towards no.

This post was written with things coming in: Welcome new players! I'm also excited to hear from some new sources... though I must say, I'm rather enjoying this town ^^

Why do you discredit other players?

I intend to read through the game one more time before placing a vote. I haven't had the time today.. Either today or tomorrow this will happen. Bit of a busy week getting ready to leave on vacation.. I will still be able to post when I leave on the 7th, but just a bit of heads up that I won't always be available, from the 7th.

Anyways, I'm mixed on what to think about the GB/Tazaro situation. GB was absolutely top of my list for town/protown roles yesterday, because we shared the same logic in why Timeater must have been scum. I'm very inclined to believe that he is telling the truth there, because it shows all the more reason why he was sure in that direction.. it all fits together.

As for Tazaro, nothing in his play particularly stood out as scummy, that I can remember.. thus why I want to read again before deciding anything. What does stick in my head at the moment, is given the crazy flavor of roles this game seems to have, it just seems so bloody unlikely that there would be only one killing team. Would everyone have honestly attacked specifically Tazaro? Personally that seems really unlikely to me. I guess there is the possibility of roleblockers/doctors interfering as well... but considering what the jailkeeper role does, it does stick in my head that it's a bit more likely that Tazaro may have a killing type role.

As for Kiwi... what? Care to explain your vote?

So those that agree with your reads (even though they are wrong [when you called timeater scum]) are obvtown, and those that even have the slightest notion of you being scum are "ignored and dumbtown"?

[kiwieagle]

Kiwi:

why do you deflect those that call you scum?

What do you mean by this question? I really thought that Time was scum, and he would not respond to anything I was saying, nor any of the other accusations against him. Personally, I find not defending yourself to be one of the scummiest things a player can do. When something is thrown in your face, I think as town, we inherently know what we were thinking, and have no trouble saying or defending that. Where as a player who is scum, is more likely to feel backed into a corner and not know how to respond. That's one of the reasons my vote isn't changing on you right now.

Why do you discredit other players?

I won't deny that maybe it was a mean thing to say, and I'm sorry Nacho, I had no intention of really being mean, maybe I was just in a bad mood or something. What I meant by saying that, is that there's no way I could see any scum person defending Time at that point, when Time was so close to death. Because if Time had been scum, and Nacho scum with him, then there's no way that Nacho would have been pushing away from the Time vote that late, since all suspicion would move to Nacho (them, ne?) the next day. And likewise, if Nacho were scum, but Time weren't then I suspect Nacho would have been thrilled to at least push the wagon further. So basically, I felt that while I couldn't really understand Nacho's logic, I felt like it definitely wasn't scum based.

So those that agree with your reads (even though they are wrong [when you called timeater scum]) are obvtown, and those that even have the slightest notion of you being scum are "ignored and dumbtown"?

I don't know what you mean by this either. I asked you why you were voting me, as in if you had anything more than gut to go on. Which you completely ignored, until my next post, which was completely calling you on scummy plays, which you have done very little to respond to. What I'm seeing more and more with you, is a lack of motive to look elsewhere. This is another reason why my vote on you isn't changing. If you're not scum Kiwi, then tell me who is? After two incredibly eventful days, all you are giving the town is a gut feeling.

I bolded the parts.

[kiwieagle]

(the parts which I refered to with my questions)

[kiwieagle]

Timeater is scum. Every post he makes convinces me more and more.
"I'm going to interact with everyone that doesn't think I'm scum to keep them on my good sid

e, but ignore all the people calling out my scum-fail-astic plays!"

Kiwi, you obviously aren't reading what I said at all. It's scummy that Timeater trusted you so much. It would seem senseless for you to be lying, personally. But there's always a chance that you had mis interpreted your role. Or maybe you could have been planning to call it a mistake like that leaving day one empty handed except a dead innocent. The fact is, it was both a stupid and a scummy move to jeopardize our day one based on testing a fact that could have just as easily been tested at the end of the day, when a real lynch candidate exists.

Throwing himself under the wheel just made him look even more suspicious, because that means he obviously already figured nothing was going to go wrong. It seems to me, like someone with more information. And if you had read at all, you'd see that I gave both the possibility that Time is scum with you, or without you. It wasn't even attempting to attack you, just to point out that regardless of what you are, Timeater is scum. I said right after that, that it seems much more likely that he is scum without you, not with you.

why do you deflect those that call you scum?

If you dont understand this:
Look at the bolded part: "but ignore all the people calling out my scum-fail-astic plays"
If someone even had a slightest notion of you being scum they would be "ignored". (deflection)

Alright Nacho, I will take your post to mean that you are

likely dumbtown.

I have phrased it multiple ways, but peregrine just did a really good job of making it simple.

Waiting til the end of the day does not mean until the deadline is just about there, it means waiting until we have a candidate that seems worth testing it out on. GB also already made the argument that it is just town cred that didn't really involve any work, because it could have been tested later, at a safer time. That argument is regardless of who the lynch candidate actually was.. whether time or toon... because time as scum, knowing that kiwi is lying is much more likely than time as scum taking a risk that could lynch an innocent player, which is at the very least anti-town in itself.

Meanwhile, this talk on the rule set is certainly very interesting... Why try arguing with the mod to kill off players? I have mixed feelings about whether scum would do that so blatently, but I'm leaning towards no.

This post was written with things coming in: Welcome new players! I'm also excited to hear from some new sources... though I must say, I'm rather enjoying this town ^^

Why do you discredit other players?

I intend to read through the game one more time before placing a vote. I haven't had the time today.. Either today or tomorrow this will happen. Bit of a busy week getting ready to leave on vacation.. I will still be able to post when I leave on the 7th, but just a bit of heads up that I won't always be available, from the 7th.

Anyways, I'm mixed on what to think about the GB/Tazaro situation.

GB was absolutely top of my list for town/protown roles yesterday, because we shared the same logic in why Timeater must have been scum.

I'm very inclined to believe that he is telling the truth there, because it shows all the more reason why he was sure in that direction.. it all fits together.

As for Tazaro, nothing in his play particularly stood out as scummy, that I can remember.. thus why I want to read again before deciding anything. What does stick in my head at the moment, is given the crazy flavor of roles this game seems to have, it just seems so bloody unlikely that there would be only one killing team. Would everyone have honestly attacked specifically Tazaro? Personally that seems really unlikely to me. I guess there is the possibility of roleblockers/doctors interfering as well... but considering what the jailkeeper role does, it does stick in my head that it's a bit more likely that Tazaro may have a killing type role.

As for Kiwi... what? Care to explain your vote?

So those that agree with your reads (even though they are wrong [when you called timeater scum]) are obvtown, and those that even have the slightest notion of you being scum are "ignored and dumbtown"?

Bolded the part.

[kiwieagle]

Timeater is scum. Every post he makes convinces me more and more.
"I'm going to interact with everyone that doesn't think I'm scum to keep them on my good side, but ignore all the people calling out my scum-fail-astic plays!"

There's a reason that I included " " quotes there. I'm not talking about myself, I'm paraphrasing Timeater's plays in my views.

I've already answered the next.

Lastly, if you really want more answer there... It makes sense that some one of the same alignment is thinking more along the same thoughts. But also, we have a lot more information on GB than JUST the thoughts. I know you'll be telling me about your priest ability after this, but the fact that GB claimed jailkeeper is huge. There's no way I would expect scum to do such a thing there, unless they were heavily experienced. So I have a hard time viewing a possibility of GB being scum for that... not just the content of the post.

Do you believe I'm scum for those reasons?

So if I claim jailkeeper im a heavily experienced scum?

Ehhh, not really.

[kiwieagle]

EPWOP: if I claim jailkeeper as scum (there are Mafia Jailkeepers btw, wouldnt be suprised cause its miedival theme)

[kiwieagle]

Going V/LA (minimal activity) till Sunday. Will be able to post through cellphone but very little

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back from V/lA

gonna read.

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Okay, even though it sucks that he won't be able to vote tomorrow, I have to laugh....... Hahahahahahaha. hey, we get a doublelynch.

VOTE: Kiwi

Why is scum that can't hammer not possible? It makes scum weaker sure, but not excessively.

oOOOooOOOOoOO


I see a Gandalf - Medicated Lain team.

Your argument is:
THERES A POSSIBILITY OF A PRIEST BEING SCUM

Why does that make me scummier then the other 12 players?

[kiwieagle]

vote: kiwieagle

Well, that certainly was... interesting. Clamping really does need to say something. Last time, she said she forgot about this game, could that be the case again?

Do you really believe that bullshit?

rofl

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there is kiwi case

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there is no kiwi case

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This game got unsubscribed somehow......

A prod dodge in disguise.

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wew hew travel times. Unfortunately it means lacking of mafia times.
If CC really doesn't seem to be posting, maybe we should be killing in that direction? Is it good for the town if we do this? I still suspect a high chance of Kiwi actually being scum, but lurkers can't help us figure anything out, and is a generally scummy action... though I'd say less so, to the extent that CC has been doing such.
Sorry I don't have time to bullet proof the case right now.

OK, The question i belive is now, is it worth lynching Ironside (claimed town) to stop the timeskips and stop a scum autowin

the fuck is this shit?

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she says "wew hew travel times" and then jason comes talking about timeskips.


COINCEDENCE?

I think not!


(ok ok im gonna go do some actual shit now....

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maybe tommorow)

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still timeater (no pun intended) was sort of right with his reads,

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What do you mean what's wrong with my post? I'm traveling... so I noted that I have limited time to post here. And then I asked what everyone thought about Kiwi VS CC.. I'm open to other thoughts, but this game is supposed to move fast.. Kiwi still seems like best choice to me, but no one else seems to have any opinions on the matter.

Kiwi seems frantic in trying to point at me... lots of OMGUSing

OMGUS?


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I called you scum first btw.

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What do you mean what's wrong with my post? I'm traveling... so I noted that I have limited time to post here. And then I asked what everyone thought about Kiwi VS CC.. I'm open to other thoughts, but this game is supposed to move fast.. Kiwi still seems like best choice to me, but no one else seems to have any opinions on the matter.

Kiwi seems frantic in trying to point at me... lots of OMGUSing

Oh and no one has opinion on the matter, cause WHAT CAN THEY HAVE OPINION ON?
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You have no case on me.

All you say is I OMGUS (which is a terrible lie).

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@Gandalf- Who are your top two scumpicks and why?

@Kiwi- 2nd scum pick besides Kiwi

@Jason- vote someone else- they're getting modkilled (I think)

I'll do the same.

Unvote.
Vote: Yankee

2nd scum pick besides kiwi?

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You know whats funny.

All you can do is repeat what 5 people have said already, which btw I already answered.

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Medicated Lain and Gand scum.


I KNEW IT