Zom Com Mafia - Mini 1225 (Abandoned)

[Chronopie]

Hai Starbuck, also hai Pie, Seraphim, Jakalope, ace, and Krew.

VOTE: Cojin

[Chronopie]

I'll bite: A role that, instead of hammering, learns alignment. [town] (like a cop investigation, but only on hammering.)
Lynchproof Goon [Scum]
Two-Part reviving SK [3p] -> Think two player slots (i.e two players), where, if either part survives a d/n cycle, the other part is revived. Can still make kills solo. (one kill for the pair)

Now what have you learned?

[Chronopie]

It's worthwhile pointing out that, as per the setup, any lynch doesn't actually reveal alignment straight away. (assuming 'human' starting points)

Also, various roles will be able to interact with the corpse/bone states.

[Chronopie]

Well afaik Corpses still have a vote, while Bones don't. (As per OP)

So a lynch turns a human into a corpse, who still has a vote, until they become a bones, and don't, but it's not until they become an Ashes that they can't be revived, and gain access to the dead QT. I don't know if that means Corpses and Bones can still talk. Guess we can find out.

[b[Unvote, Vote: Maru[/b]

[Chronopie]

EBWOP:

Unvote, Vote: Maru

[Chronopie]

Not yet. You still have a vote, although I'm not sure about a voice. You can tell us (or not) tomorrow.

[Chronopie]

Well... More votes. Easiest way to work this out.

[Chronopie]

I doubt all three of his buddies would have been Bussing. Probably one, Maybe two, but not all three.

1-2 in {Twistedspoon, PeregrineV, Captain Corporal, Cojin}

Twisted Spoon - Claimed Miller [Wight-Miller], which presumably means one or more of the scum will be Wights. Was wrong about Maru-town via Meta. Town vibe given miller claim, but obv cannot be allowed to survive to endgame.

Peregrine - His iso is a little bare (like I'm one to talk xD), but I get a town vibe from the posts.

Captain Corporal - Defended Maru. Highest likelyhood of scum.

Cojin - His iso is barer than Peregrine's, and does NOT give town vibes.

CC > Cojin > TS = Peregrine

VOTE: Captain Corporal

This is a stupid bandwagon. I have yet to see any piece of evidence that will convince me of Maru's guilt.
The fact that he hasn't been lynched yet isn't all that surprising - this is a mini theme, after all. And I don't want to waste time speculating on

why

when we could be

scumhunting

.

Calls wagon stupid, Not surprised he isn't lynched yet [Super sekret infos], and go hunt elsewhere.

@Maru- Generally, when faced with impending death (maybe, seeing as how you have the votes to lynch you ), a town-player will give some thoughts on who the scum team or players are. Unless I missed it, you haven't done such a thing.

If you are town, can you share your thoughts on who is scum and why?

Thats because I fully expect to come back as a living breathing talking corpse

(wait I can still talk right? or did I read the game completely wrong)

If I CAN'T Talk after my first lynch, then I see your point.

The above post is town

So Maru avoided answering the question of giving reads, (something that town should do [But maru wasn't town anyway]), but CC called him town for it.

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OTOH, based on Maru's iso, SK, Seraphim, and starbuck are likely town. Also the post-hammer interaction between Ace and Maru indicates Ace-town too.

Also, had anyone noticed this we could have nailed him more conclusively, sooner.

a bolded notice in a scum-QT saying to not talk

read: I [Maru] have access to scum QT.

[Chronopie]

I think that jak's role is viable. I have one that functions similarly (as in changes [dead] player states)

And in a game like this, where there are revive mechanics implied [

Zom

Com], he made the right move, eliminating scum.

[Chronopie]

Except bones, even if revived, can't vote. They aren't a danger. They'd effectively be tree stumps. Unless there was a good reason to destroy them, there's no good reason to destroy bones.

Jak: full claim or die.

Revived and turned into corpses (i.e with votes.)

[Chronopie]

/prodded.

Having reread most of Maru's iso, SK is likely to NOT be scum.

The lack of a flip from last night either means someone went from Human -> Corpse (as corpses don't flip, bones do), or there was a doc protect. It's possible that Twisted's loss of "Wight" status may be due to said NK, in which case it's a function of his role. Unless anyone would like to claim a change in status.

@Mod: Are people told when they go from Human to Corpse?

I assume the answer is yes, but checking.

[Chronopie]

It wasn't wagon analysis alone. I call misrep.

It was minor wagon analysis combined with looking for associative tells in the dead-scum's iso.

[Chronopie]

Out of [Seraphim | Maruchan] one is scum, vote maru?

oshi- is that the VC; Unvote, claim pl0x

[re]Vote maru

I don't see the bus... Enlighten me.

[Chronopie]

I didn't ignore the 1st page RVS wagon:

Vote: Chronopie

Hai.

Hai Starbuck, also hai <snip>

It was RVS. Would you expect to to {Bitch | Moan | Over-react in some discriminating way}?

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And yes, I tend to be an early-game chronic lurker. IK. I'm trying to work through that.

It tends to be late-game, post-scumflip(s) that I can catch teams. And have done.

[Chronopie]

@Seraphim; CC's claim of one-shot resurrector + passive detection of other revives is credible. (

Unvote

)

Between Yourself and Ace... His claim would explain the discrepancy in the Maru wagon. Read that as you will.

[Chronopie]

I'll just put this out now, rather than at five minutes to deadline.

Dr. Frankenstein, from the book. (Not Frankenstein's Monster, the actual scientist.)

Human, Town, Flesh Restoring Resurrector.

1) I can convert a corpse into a bones, for 'flesh', which powers my other ability. (as well as flipping said

corpse

bones.)

2) Which is a 2-shot that turns a

dead bones

into a corpse, and revives them. (It's alive! :cue thunder:)

No passive

w/c Mafia Eliminated

Spoiler: crumbs

It's worthwhile pointing out that, as per the setup, any lynch doesn't actually reveal alignment straight away. (assuming 'human' starting points)

Also, various roles will be able to interact with the corpse/bone states.

Well afaik Corpses still have a vote, while Bones don't. (As per OP)

So a lynch turns a human into a corpse, who still has a vote, until they become a bones, and don't,

but it's not until they become an Ashes that they can't be revived,

and gain access to the dead QT. I don't know if that means Corpses and Bones can still talk. Guess we can find out.

Unvote, Vote: Maru

I think that jak's role is viable. I have one that functions similarly (as in changes [dead] player states)

And in a game like this, where there are

revive mechanics

implied [

Zom

Com], he made the right move, eliminating scum.

Except bones, even if revived, can't vote. They aren't a danger. They'd effectively be tree stumps. Unless there was a good reason to destroy them, there's no good reason to destroy bones.

Jak: full claim or die.

Revived and turned into corpses (i.e with votes.)

Obviously I haven't had a chance to use ability #1 (as the only flip [i.e Maru] was already bones), and don't have any targets for #2 (or any flesh to do it.)

[Chronopie]

@Chronopie - What do you mean by "dead bones", as opposed to "alive bones"? When you revive a player do they gain their abilities back or just go to zombie (aka vote back only).

Once again neutral on Chrono's claim, would still lynch atm.

@mod

- Can bones talk in thread?

'Dead' bones, because, presumably, I can't use the ability on Skeletons.

And it's full life. As in abilities and all.

[Chronopie]

VOTE: Ace As much self-preservation as anything else.

He can always be flipped either way.

[Chronopie]

ace5993 has changed from

Corpse

to

Bones

.

As such, I has one use of my revive (Bones -> Corpse/Alive) now.

[Chronopie]

Why would I revive scum?

I turned Ace

into

bones, and gained a flesh. Why would I undo that?

[Chronopie]

Would he like to claim?

[Chronopie]

Depends on the claim. Probably not though.

[Chronopie]

@Everyone who is not voting Bogre. Please explain why you are not voting Bogre.

Waiting for a claim.

[Chronopie]

If I told you that, he'd claim it... -.-

[Chronopie]

Dr. Frankenstein, [Vampire - N3] Flesh Restoring Resurrector (can convert Corpses into Bones to gain "flesh" which powers a two-shot reviving ability that also turns a dead bones into corpse)

Pretty sure I can continue to strip flesh though.

And Vampires retain their W/C and powers.

[Chronopie]

Confirming Starbuck/Sotty was the one to bite me.

Moar confirmation.

[Chronopie]

It's possible that the Vampire-Recruiter wins when the entire playerlist are vamps, as a modified cult, but it's not a cult in the standard sense, as we kept our Wincons.

I should still be able to flense people, even though I have two Fleshes.

[Chronopie]

Do I tear apart todays lynch, or put Peregrine back together?

[Chronopie]

/prodded

Jak's been killed twice now, but because he was embalmed, he won't turn into a bones naturally, so I can't revive him that way. Which is unfortunate, because he could turn the other scum-bones into ashes, thus make sure they can't return.

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Ace-Scum was pushing Ipie [Ethos] and seraphim fairly hard, before switching to MoI once he saw the Seraphim wagon wasn't going to fly.

Before moving on to call Jak, Spoon, Starbuck [Sotty], and

peregrine

town.

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More later. Late for class.

[Chronopie]

I may need to invoke Rule 12 of the internet. At least for a while longer. And rules 8, 25 and 26

[Chronopie]

I can flip Jak. He was embalmed though, so I don't think he decays normally. So I'd have to choose between Jak or the Lynch.

[Chronopie]

For real this time but I don't think he's been honest with us.

You got that right. Sorry, I decided it would be better if scum didn't know about the true nature of my role...

I'm Albert Wesker, domino resurrector.
Basically, whoever I use my resurrect ability on gains it, and so on.
I also had another ability called preserve, which stops Jak from turning into ash when next killed.

Reading up some more later tonight (was away on camp).

[Chronopie]

Nik's fine. Although he needs to brush up on his Veigar a little. Graves is new, I have an excuse.

Since the game doesn't end until all the mafia

flip

, I'll continue to debone the lynches, rather than revive anyone.

[Chronopie]

/apathy

[Chronopie]

VOTE: Seraphim

And I'll flip him tonight.

/apathy

[Chronopie]

At some point I'm going to need to revive a confirmed townie, to avoid loss by attrition.

[Chronopie]

If we keep going through/flipping townies, we might lose purely by way of scum being one of the last ones left.

[Chronopie]

We need prods on the Mod.

[Chronopie]

I've prodded the mod several times now. Including over Skype. Chill.

[Chronopie]

Nik was going to declare the game abandoned himself. I'll leave it to him or the last scum member to out themselves.

Chronopie (6:29): Cow just declared Zom Com abandoned...
UristMcMagma (6:30): Yeah I was prob gonna do that soonish anyway.
   Sorry. :s
Chronopie (6:30): So who was the last scum?
UristMcMagma (6:30): <spoiler>
Chronopie (6:30): mk

Hello Chronopie. You are

Doctor Frankenstein

[

from Frankenstein

], Flesh-Restoring Resurrector

.

You are a

Human

. If you die, you will become a

Corpse

.

Active Abilities

Debone corpse:

You may turn a Corpse into Bones. Doing this will give you Flesh for the following ability.

Graft flesh (2):

You may use Flesh to turn a target dead Bones into a Corpse. The target will then return to life.

Passive Abilities

None.

Factional Abilities

Win Condition:

You win when the mafia has been eliminated.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by PM.

[Chronopie]

And then Night 3.

Hello Chronopie. You are

Doctor Frankenstein

[

from Frankenstein

], Flesh-Restoring Resurrector

.

You are a

Vampire

. If you die, you will become a

Corpse

.

Active Abilities

Debone corpse:

You may turn a Corpse into Bones. Doing this will give you Flesh for the following ability.

Graft flesh (2):

You may use Flesh to turn a target dead Bones into a Corpse. The target will then return to life.

Keep it in the family:

You may bite another player in an attempt to turn them into a Vampire. This ability will only affect Human and Vampire players. Recruited Vampires gain the Keep it in the family, Creature of the night, Deceptive appearances and Parental dependence abilities.

Passive Abilities

Creature of the night:

All Vampires you recruit will gain access to your family quicktopic, but Vampires that your recruits recruit will not gain access to your quicktopic. Each Vampire gets his own quicktopic to share with his own recruits. You may gain access to more than one Vampire quicktopic. You currently have access to Starbuck's Family, Chronopie's Family.

Deceptive appearances:

You appear Human to all investigations.

Parental dependence:

If your recruiter dies or loses his Vampire status, you will become Human.

Factional Abilities

Win Condition:

You win when the mafia has been eliminated.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by PM.