#335 Road to Perdition - Finiretur (<- Over)

[Max]

random vote: max

I hate random org

[Max]

random vote: max

I hate random org

[Max]

huh??

[Max]

unvote:max

The chances are still the small but it does happen I've decided to leave myself out next time I use random.org

[Max]

unvote:max

vote: connor

for senseless band waggoning

[Max]

because i know him in person so he knows me

Hey wait a minute we are on page 5 make all your posts in 1

[Max]

What's with the connor and Max thing? I don't get it.

Max votes himself. Then connor votes for Max. Max unvotes and votes connor for bandwagonning? (there's no max-wagon) Then connor unvotes and votes for himself?

Is this stupid newbie antics or what?

I know but I see fit voting people who vote me randomly way after the random vote stage

[Max]

that would be the person I would vig if I was a vig

POST OR PERISH

litterally not just in the game

Not that I'm a real life SK or anything :shifty eyes:

[Max]

It does you just talked about a nice vig

POP
Ibeasha barely posted so if I was a vig I'ld vig her

I still want connor to be replaced I pmed the mod to ask to replace him no luck though

[Max]

Why are you so certain it was a vig?

I just think it probably is but it could be an SK

[Max]

sorry i have been soooooooooooooooooo busy whats been going on then

you dissapeared for about a month and now your back




Theres also a missing mod and missing players

[Max]

Cancel missing mod I thought the last post was longer ago than the last

[Max]

Votecount

chaotic_diablo(1) - thesp
max (1) - bluemonick
wintergreen (1) - primate


And who is missing???

It was connor I PMed you asking to replace him during the last night

[Max]

vote: wintergreen

At last a

HAMMAH!

[Max]

This games gone too slowly

Connor's a complete idiot and we should lynch him as he is not helping

[Max]

I know that

connor is innocent (confirmed innocence mason)
and I'm vig

I killed MC and Ibby

Ibby by luck

MC by bad luck

so list of all possible mafia

chaotic_diablo (1/2)
Primate (1/2)
bluemonick (1/2)
Coron (1/2)

Primate you seem scummiest

so

vote:primate

[Max]

A vig/mason pair with confirmed innocence?

Unless anyone counter-claims vig, I guess we have to believe you. If it wasn't for the vig thing, I would think this was scum pulling a gambit for Lylo. But 'cause of the vig thing, I guess it can't be, if we don't have a counter-claim. Plus, you two don't seem like gambity players.

Are you guys sure that you both have confirmed innocence of each other?

yes confirmed

This many cops could be a way to balance a mason traitor.

Unless theres many millers

Would like to hear why you think I'm scummiest though.

last time I saw you play so townieish you were scum pulling a gambit

[Max]

*sigh*

Stop being stupid and get your votes off me please.

If the mafia come along now, they can put two votes on and win the game without even breaking a sweat.

but noticed how 2 mafia haven't jumped on

You two acted retarded

HE acted retarded

If you think I'm scum,

say why

. I want to know if you two are actually thinking instead of just headbutting the keyboard.

Max, what game are you talking about? Are you talking about someone else? I think this is the first game I've been in with you to your knowledge. (I am active on Wifom under a different name (spoon), but you wouldn't know that

Points at your avatar

)[/quote]


[quote="coron] Do you two vig together or just Max?

just me and if connor could vig too I'ld have asked to be replaced by now

[/quote]

[Max]

Still don't believe me are the scum planning on counter claiming unlikely and even if they did it would only be to lynch me


If we go for no lynch 50:50 chance we hit scum and they hit us leaving 1 scum

and 4 town if we have a doc which is likely with this many cops and we get a succesfl protect we are no longer at LyLo

Their is also only a 50:50 chance today we hit mafia as Me and Connor are Gauranteed innocent

[Max]

If they block my kill it would still by LyLo

If both Me and Connor Survived it would be an easy LyLo

[Max]

Her's an Idea I kill either Blumonick Or Primate The mafia stay away from them if either of them die It's proven my innocence

[Max]

If a vig is still alive the game could carry on to a draw

[Max]

Right I'm

micheal sullivan

and connor is my son

micheal sullivan


I got confused with this but that's what my role PM said

[Max]

unvote: Primate

I feel like voting connor for cting like an idiot but unfortunately he's my mason partener

[Max]

YAY CONNORS BEING REPLACED

[Max]

All of these Posts are primates here they are in order:

DAY 1

'sup TB, 'sup Wintergreen.

Vote ibaesha 'cuz her name begins with a vowel.

vote: raj I <3 you but ... I must know

Why vote max for randomly voting for himself and not chaotic?

And so the game begins.

[quote"mackay"]
As for the situation at hand:

So far we've seen three people all greeting one another conspicuously (you will notice my "You've got to be kidding" followed the second of the three), and two self-voters.

We were all in the same newbie here (227) as our first game on 'scum.

And yeah, I'm probably being paranoid here, but how did you know what Wintergreen's sig was before she had posted?[/quote]

[quote="Thesp]
Voting for someone being not useful = bad reason. Voting for someone being scum = good reason.

It is in scum's best intrest to be unuseful, so from this we can deduct that:
intentionally unuseful=scummy

What about someone like Babyjesus, Internet Stranger or yourself, are meta accepted styles of unhelpfulness the exception to this, you think?[/quote]

Spoon Dissapears For A while then comes back

'sup Masterchief, are you just stopping by, or are you really in this game?

I nearly lynched TB in the last game I was in with him for the exact reasons that you lot are thinking of lynching him now. All I can say is that his behaviour is consistent with how he behaved before, when he was town, but I've never seen him as scum, so I can't really defend his playstyle. This new style of pseudo-lurking that involves making posts too long for people to be bothered to read is new though.

Most of this is just as it comes to me from reading, there's too much stuff for me to be bothered making the post organised. Plus, it's been about a day and a half without sleep for me, so all this comes with the caveat that it might not make any sense at all.

TB, I would say that diverting a conversation is pretty much the same thing as quashing it, and you have admitted that you were diverting it. Then again, it was early game discussion and more theoretical than scum-searching, so I can understand your eagerness to get started on what you may perceive as hunting mafia.

Fosing lot's of people at once is not inherently scummy imho, but TB's over defensiveness seemed to kick in once and he treated it as if it was whilst defending his point, which interests me.

I, like TB, don't buy the 'voting for yourself' is scummy argument. It's against both sides interests do vote for themselves, so why pick out one over the other? Don't see why he didn't try and argue this instead of diverting the argument though.

Raj is a playa'

FosWintergreen for getting on a packed wagon so casually.

TB seems like he's misrepresenting things in his eagerness to lynch, something I can't easily square with a pro-town player, even one of TB's overenthusiasm.

MiniFos Mackay for being so balls to wall in his attack of TB.

Thesp: I don't see the 'appears to think they're townies' thing atm, I'll have another look in the morning.

In conclusion, if TB didn't have so many votes on him at the minute, I'd vote him. But he has. So I won't. It's too early to be lynching.

Connor, it would be appreciated if you posted something that contributed to the discussion, especially with so much to discuss.

You probably should try and make as few posts as possible as well, I know that you had four things to say, but theres no reason they couldn't have been in the same post.

TB, I'm sorry man. This is only a game, and if you want to walk away at any point, you don't even have to say so, we'll deal, we'll figure out something. You have bigger problems right now, and personally, I would expect for you to care about things that actually matter over something that is, despite the depth, only a game. Don't let anyone try and push you to replace if you feel you can carry on, but if you feel it's the right idea, then go for it. It's entirely your decision.

Personally, I think it would be a good idea for you to be replaced if you're not sure that you will be able to devote the proper time to the game, but it is your call.

I have some opinions on TB's claim as well, but I'll post them when I'm sober.

Ta-ra all.

Masterchief wrote:
Well, this is going to set our game behind a lot.

What an odd thing to say Masterchief.

Yes, you're right, it will set back this lynch. What a crying shame we won't be able to lynch this person as quickly as you obviously wanted to. Now we might have actually some discussion, perish the thought.

Waggles Fos at Masterchief.

Personally, I think TB's being a bit imaginitive with the truth in his claim.

Lynching him probably would be the best play for the minute. But if we decide to wait a bit for the replacement, or just for the Mod, I would quite like the extra time to discuss something else.

Specifically Wintergreen, who is sending my scumdar crazy. I'm not really a fan of giving the scum the oppurtunity to talk though, so I want to either put all my argument on this side of the night or the other side of the night. If we're gonna lynch TB though, then I'll wait.

Vote TB

I do think he's lying and I wouldn't wish on a replacement having to defend himself at this point.

Question: Would TB claim if he knew he was about to be replaced and was scum or would he let his replacement do it?

It's kind of moot anyway considering the mention of replacement came up afterwards, but I thought it would be an interesting point to bring up. I for one would leave the claim to my replacement.

DAY 2

KILLKILLKILLKILLKILL!!!!!

I'll put Thesp under the category of "Blood Thirsty".

That's what 'tings'll do to you.

Vote Wintergreen

1) Fifth vote on the wagon of a townie with no reason at all. No defense of why her vote is there throughout the entire wagon.

2) Waits more me to point out that his playstyle was very similar in the last game, and doesn't commit when I do point it out, despite it being true.

3)Comes out and claims vanilla townie in sympathy with TB. TB later turns out to be non-vanilla, failing to support her roleclaim.

4)When she comes out to 'play devils advocate' for TB, she doesn't unvote. Rolling Eyes

I need to spend some time thinking over the C_D thing though, but I'm much happier throwing my lot in with Wintergreen.

I don't understand, whats C_D?

Cincinatti Dolphins. So as not to appear biased, and to form a less predictable play, I effectively randomise all my mafia votes by co-ordinating them with the score record of this fine football team.

Well, stupid questions get stupid answers. Look at the playerlist.

sorry i been really busy but vote: max because it's summer holidays and he hates something other than his mum and dad

Start playing the fucking game or get replaced. Seriously, why are you even here if all you're going to do is waltz into the game once in a blue moon and post something that has fuck all to do with anything. Christ, even that ridiculous reason you put makes no sense, grammatically or otherwise.

This game has gone from generally entertaining and enthralling to fucktarded in less than 60 seconds. I hope the people who just speedlynched wintergreen realize just how much they screwed up this game.

Seriously, what game are you guys playing? It 'aint mafia.

[/quote]


Posts by Primate in first 2 days: 16
posts about something other than the game: 3
posts random voting: 1
Complaints about conner: 2
about Cincinnati_Dolphins: 2

So half do not include logic
half do that is all

[Max]

Wow, this is easy. No claim from mafia. Hence max and connor are likely innocent. SCORE!

vote Chaotic_Diablo

Scum. Scum. Scum. Scum. Scum. Scum. Scum. Scum.

There are plenty of flaws in that reasoning.

What is Max trying to do?

I'm analysing all players

Next it's bluemonick
then you
then Coron

[Max]

Vote Count:

Max

(3) -

Max

,

rajrhcpfreak

, Coron

rajrhcpfreak

(1) -

ibaesha

chaotic_diablo(1) - chaotic_diablo

ibaesha

(1) - Primate
connor (1) -

tb

Wintergreen

(1) - Mackay

Votecount

Max

(2) -

Max

, , Coron
chaotic_diablo (1) - chaotic_diablo,

ibaesha

(1) - Primate

tb

(5) - ibaesha, mackay,

rajrhcpfreak

,

thesp,

Wintergreen

mackay (1) -

tb

The Votecount

Max

(1) - Coron
chaotic_diablo (1) - chaotic_diablo,

ibaesha

(1) - Primate

tb

(5) -

ibaesha

, mackay,

rajrhcpfreak

thesp,

Wintergreen

mackay (1) -

tb

Connor

(2) -

Max

, Connor

I'm back with a votecount. And it's the final of the day.

Max (1) - Coron

tb

(7) -

ibaesha

, mackay,

rajrhcpfreak

, thesp,

Wintergreen

primate, chaotic_diablo
mackay (1) -

tb

Connor (2) -

Max

, Connor

Day 2

Votecount

chaotic_diablo(1) - thesp

Max

(1) - bluemonick

Wintergreen

(1) - primate

Votecount

Max

(1) - connor

Wintergreen

(3) - primate, coron, thesp

masterchief

(1) - bluemonick
thesp (1) -

masterchief

day 3

The Votecount

c_d (1) Primate
Coron (2) -

Rathyr

, Bluemonick

Not voting: chaotic_diablo, Coron,

Max

With 6 Alive it's 4 to lynch.

The Votecount

c_d (1) Primate
Coron (2) -

Rathyr

, Bluemonick

Not voting: chaotic_diablo, Coron, Max

blue

= dead townie

red

= dead anti-town

green

= dead cop

bold

= alive mason
none = other and alive

TB - Father Callaway, Townie, lynched Day 1
rajrhcpfreak - Cop, shot Night 1
ibaesha {replacing WellofLostGnomes} - Maguire, Mafia, shot Night 1
wintergreen - Townie, lynched Day 2
Masterchief - Cop, shot Night 2
Thesp - Cop, shot Night 2

I've done all vote counts but not all colors so here's the link I used

viewtopic.php?t=3502&userposts=1121

[Max]

Rathyr


I am NOT wasting a kill on a claimed doc I prefer to waste a lynch on one

As I still have my kill this is NOT lynch or lose

O.K now everyone make a list of the people you think are scummiest to least scummiest

through that I will decide who to vig

Primate 1
bluemonick 2
chaotic_diablo 3
Coron 4
Rathyr 5

so current scores

[mrow]player[col]by Mx[col]by C_D[col]by prmte[col]by crn[col]by R Max[col]X[col]-[col]-[col]-[col]-[col]- chaotic_diablo[col]3[col]-[col]-[col]-[col]-[col]- Primate[col]1[col]-[col]-[col]-[col]-[col]- bluemonick[col]2[col]-[col]-[col]-[col]-[col]- Coron[col]4[col]-[col]-[col]-[col]-[col]- Rathyr[col]5[col]-[col]-[col]-[col]-[col]-


O.K the person with the least votes we lynch then the next person I kill

I hold all rights to change who I kill meaning this is really only for the lynch

[Max]

I hope it isnt Lowest, because I can tell you right now Primate isnt lying and he's a confirmed Innocent. Im Innocent as I know my own alignment.

lower the scummier

O.K

so I'm guessing that you say coron and C_D are scum

right heres a deal we lynch coron if he's scum I kill C_D if he's town I kill you

Does that sound fair?

[Max]

In addition, townies are usually put into the game in bundles of three. Since we have two dead townies, we should have another. This brings me to: 4 scum, 5 cops, 3 townies.

If there were 4 scum that means we would all be dead in endgame

vote: C_D

[Max]

So we lynch coron as he's not helping then if he's scum we kill C_D if town we kill you

Done Is Done

unvote
vote:coron

[Max]

Now If we win this would make it the best victory ever (where I have survived to end game

[Max]

Night and night with Zu are 3 days so i juat send it in

[Max]

*CROSSES FINGERS*

[Max]

Max, don't vig until we have talked a bit, ok?

No we talk after vig I had a deal

If corons scum c_d is dead
If corons town blue is dead

[Max]

Lynch chaotic kill primate

vote C_D

[Max]

Oh by the way we weren't known to be innocent but as it said he was my son I presumed correct.

at the end It was either me dead in endgame after me killing primate and rathyr killing me

or it would be town win with me killing primate at the end

I think that due to the effect that when I claimed mason noone killed me I thought it was stupid as the advantage of masons is more towards the end.

Zu_faul if you do run mason vig again make sure that you don't know each other to be innocent but also make it in a large game

[Max]

but I fouled up 2 times once for killing

MC

and once for wintergreen

BUT

I DO NOT REGRET KILLING BLUEMONICK WE HAD A DEAL SO I THOUGHT HE WAS SCUM