Mini 419: Farkle Mafia (Game Over)

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Confirm.

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Vote Coron

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He's likely to reach 10000 very soon this way. We'd better lynch him before he does.

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Anyone up for a Coron lynch?

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Unvote, Vote Nocmen

. Looks good.

Still waiting for my turn

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Original Roll String: 6d6

6 6-Sided Dice: (3, 1, 1, 1, 2, 3) = 11

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Take out 3 4's for 400 points and 2 5's for 50 points each for a total of 500 points. End my turn.

Are we ready to lynch Coron yet?

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Vote Coron

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He's likely to reach 10000 very soon this way. We'd better lynch him before he does.

Unless you know that coron is not pro-town, you have no reason not to want him to do well.

I think Coron already explained this rather well. At this point, it's best for me to want nobody but myself win the Farkle game.

Unvote, Vote Nocmen

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Still waiting for my turn

Why are you voting him? Because he speculated on night actions? You seem a little vote jumpy to me...

Yes, it was because of the night actions. While that alone isn't enough for a case, it's usually a thing that gets a wagon going. Then, according to the defending player's responses, you can unvote or stay on the wagon. Nocmen's responses haven't really been satisfying. That's probably because he's been lurking lately.

Are we ready to lynch Coron yet?

This quote is intersting just because CES's vote is not even on Coron at this point, it is on Nocmen...

Ya so?

Also, about the math thingy and the encouraging to keep rolling ... the fact that I have no points would encourage me to want the rest of the town to do the best that they can right?

The rest of the town, yes. But you don't know who the rest of the town is, and therefore you should only root for yourself.

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Original Roll String: 6d6

6 6-Sided Dice: (5, 6, 3, 4, 4, 6) = 28

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Take out 3 threes and a 5 for a total of 350 points. My grand total is now 850 points.

Still up for a Coron lynch.

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Apart from gut, I have, indeed, no other reason to vote for Coron.

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How does Coron as a scum play?

I said gut, not metagaming.

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I think we should Farklefix. If that can win us the mafiagame, I don't see why we shouldn't. That and Coron's response to it can give me another reason to vote him.

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CES, who are you really? Are you an alt for the original CES, or for someone else we know? If this is common knowledge I apologise, I haven't been around much recently and am thus behind the times.

I don't like his arguing the Coron lynch without voting Coron. CES, why are you doing that?

The purpose of using a gimmick is to hide your identity from the other players, so excuse me for not answering to your first question.

As for the second one, I'm not completely sure why I'm not voting Coron, but I think I've said enough about him to make my stance clear without having to reflect that stance in the votecount. A vote on Coron wouldn't be of any practical value, really.
The only other lynch I'd agree with is one on Nocmen. Hence my vote for him. Also, the 'wagon on Nocmen, as opposed to one I could try to start on Coron, has got more than one follower, which is pretty crucial for a good 'wagon.

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I can see good meta-reasons why a vig would fire night 0. Also, since he's revealed, it's best to keep him alive. We can tell him who to kill each night, and basically make him the town's second lynch, even if he's the sk. That said,

Unvote

. If the mafia are dead and the game isn't over yet, we know who to lynch, at least.

Keeping scums alive is an undervalued tactic.

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Why Dean, Nocmen?

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Where the hell is everybody!!!!!

They're all speechless because they're amazed by the wonderful contribution you just made.

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Well.. You could say that if I was attacking Coron relentessly yesterday, it wouldn't be wise for a scum at all to kill him. I'm disappointed to find him town, though.

I'm also wondering why Coron's vanilla-ness was revealed, when no roles were revealed after night 0.

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Well.. I guess people are waiting for some sort of defense of mine. I believe the only point I'm being wagoned for at the moment is that I attacked someone who's confirmed town quite a lot yesterday.

All I have to say in my defense is that I was attacking Coron for a metagame reason. He acted strange, and that was enough for me to make him my suspect, seeing as there was hardly anything else going on yesterday. This and the fact Coron was leading in the Farkle game made him my first choice.

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That'd be me. Something about his play rubbed me the wrong way.

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@CES: Then, you should have stated you have a metagame reason to go after Coron on Day 1, right? Instead of claiming it was due to gut feeling when asked?

I'd already said that. It was the 'acting strange' part of my post. Also, with the metagame, I meant the fact that he was leading the Farkle game (not sure if that qualifies as metagaming, but you get the point).

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Nemcon: If you think I'm suspicious, why didn't you shoot me last night?

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I'm a roleblocker. I targeted Coron last night.

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Actually, almost any mafia's got a roleblocker.
I blocked Coron because I thought he was scum, and because I thought I could block his Farkle ability. I didn't block Nocmen because I wasn't really afraid of being killed.

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So... why in the world would you want to block Coron even if he won the Farkle game? If he was town, the ability he gained could have helped us a lot. And that's not to mention if Coron might in fact be using a pro-town ability Night 1.

If you think like this, there wouldn't be any good reason for a town roleblock to block someone ever. Unless you're 100% sure someone's scum.

Kilmenator's being paranoid, and I'm getting bad vibes from her too. I know that I'm not really in the position to attack someone right now, so that's just for the record.

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Random Notes, made under the assumption I'm town:

- Coron was killed to incriminate me.
- The mafia wants to have me lynched today.
- Kilmenator and/or Thesp is scum. Thesp is trying to set up chain lynches, and this conversation they're having is sketchy. I don't really like Kilmenator's posts today either.
- TheAdmiral is trying to set up chains too, and his posts are blah.
- We need to hear from the lurker.

Nai, could we get prods/replacements/modkills?

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1.WIFOM

Do you actually know what WIFOM is? This is in no way WIFOM. As I said, these are notes made under the assumption that I'm town.

2.How do you know scum want you lynched and not someone else? Because you have the biggest wagon? Are you positive that scum are trying to lynch you and not that pro-town players see your play as anti town?

Well, if note 1 is true, that means the mafia killed Coron to get me lynched today. No matter who's on my wagon, that was the initial plan.

3. I am town and I get the feeling that Thesp is town too, mind elaborating on why you think one or the other of us is scum?

I've given my reasons in my previous post. I could make long sentences that mean exactly the same as what I said already, but instead I won't.

4 and 5- Deflecting

Deflecting from what I said myself? I don't really know what point you're trying to bring across here. If you mean I'm trying to deflect from my own wagon, point 1 to 3 are far more deflective than 4 and 5, and everything someone said in his defence is basically deflecting.

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I think you're suffering from CESintrism.

It's a fact, dear. Not an outburst of paranoia.

Howso on the chain lynches? I don't see it.

You're trying to link others constantly.

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Howso on the chain lynches? I don't see it.

You're trying to link others constantly.

Mafia is a game in which there is a group of people pitted against an ungrouped people. I am indeed looking for links between players. I'm confused as to why you think that is a bad thing. Can you clarify?

Because:
1) You're sometimes quite stretching in finding links between people.
2) It unhelpful talking about links that make the death of a townie incriminate someone else. It's what the mafia did last night, and it's what you're trying to do to.

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Back vacation reread etc.

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Okay, so here's the thing.

Bertrand's latest posts are bothering me. He hardly gives any opinion in his posts, and he went from 'CESc is probably the best candidate for a lynch, but I don't feel comfortable lynching him' to 'CES is the pretty much the lynch for today' without any reasoning.

ThAdmiral's posts stand out too. He's really eager to lynch me. In fact, he acts like he's got a guilty on me, while I know this isn't possible.

Admiral:

You don't have to answer this question, but from my position I know it would be good if you'd answer it. If you've got a guilty on me, would you mind revealing this? I think everyone noticed that you appear to be 100% sure I'm scum, so there's not really much to lose. Rereading from day 1, it seems you didn't get a guilty on anyone that day, so if you're a cop and you've got a guilty on me, you're probably insane, and your night 0 target's scum.

I think we don't have to direct the vig at this point, but it might be necessary later on in the game. I don't see why directing would be bad. If it's because there's scum in the town, lynching would be bad too, since the lynch target is likely to be affected by scum.

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@ Dagger-
Your case against me is that I have been pushing a CES lynch? That is your whole case? Because if that is your case, that is a pretty ridiculous case.

Voting for me only scums do.

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If I am indeed a Miller, I'm not aware of it.

And I just suspected Admiral had a guilty on me because he seemed 100% sure that I was scum (Finding scum partners before my alignment was confirmed either way, and such).

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Okay, so I'm back from a week of vacation.

There hasn't been much posting, but i haven't had the time to read everything through carefully yet.

About the miller thing: I have no reason whatsoever to believe I'm a miller. There's nothing in my pm that implies millership, and I haven't got any other reason to believe I am.

Everyone could be a miller without being aware of it, and that's the reason I said this the way I did.

I'll try and post some more content tomorrow. I missed quite some sleep last week.

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Hmmkay, so here's my beloved post. I'm terribly busy, and I'm trying to find the time to post here, but it sure ain't easy.

I understand why people want to 'just a little better than no lynch' me, but I think there are better options. Jordan's been acting scummy, as well as his predecessors, and I'm also still getting bad vibes from bertrand.

I'll try to post at least once more before deadline, but I'm not sure if I can make it.

Also,

mod

, is the deadline on Wednesday 8th or Friday 10th?

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Vote JordanA24

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Also, searching for scumpairs is ridiculous. At least it is until my alignment is revealed.

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I guess it's my turn, then.

Original Roll String: 6d6

6 6-Sided Dice: (4, 5, 6, 6, 5, 2) = 28

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Take out the 1 for 100 points.

Original Roll String: 5d6

5 6-Sided Dice: (5, 5, 1, 4, 1) = 16

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Take out a 5 for 50 points. Grand total is 150 points.

Original Roll String: 4d6

4 6-Sided Dice: (6, 3, 1, 2) = 12

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That's a farkle.

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I think this games desrves a chance, after a reread CES is just screaming scum, due to the inactivity and lurking while the game was still going.

Inactivity

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lurking?

If you'd actually read well, you'd see that I was on vacation in that period. I said this to the mod beforehand, but wasn't replaced (probably because it's hard to find replacements).

I don't know/care if I'm lynched, really. If the game continues, make sure death_omen and Jordan die asap.

That is all.