mneme wrote:
Given his action, the odds of BM being scum are fairly high -- and even if he isn't, the loss in info/day of letting him get away with this substantially outweighs the loss to the town of a mislynch.
I disagree with this post. If BM would have been saved, he wouldn't have repeated this behavior because there are no other 100% surefire scum, which is the sole reason why BM challenged VD.
mneme wrote:But...it isn't the way to bet, and while dylan has a point with his "I'm so hated, I must be town" speech
This looks like a weird thing to say before voting for Stewie. Dylan doesn't have a point with his "I'm so hated, I must be town" speech.
If he was scum his team would have thrown him under the bus a long time ago.
mneme wrote:That said, I'm very interested in the discussion between Yos and Stoofer -- it's self-evident, but if the newbish players aren't all or most of the conservative mafia (seems likely that they aren't all, at least), some have to be hiding among the "core".
I'm not exactly sure what he's saying here. Is he trying to keep his options open and kill either one of Yos or Stoof should they have challenged eachother today ?
mneme wrote:Albert B. Rampage wrote:I still think it might be possible Dylan is scum with mneme tough...maybe.
*giggle*. That would require a really big bus. Maybe a fleet.
I've been anti-dylan all three days, nom'd him all three days, and voted to kill him on two of them (I didn't have an opportunity on day 2). I could (looking as a third party observer, which I'm not) see any of the experienced player sitting in the center of this game as possible scum, incluidng yours truly -- but this one's pretty hard to credit.
Again, this looks a lot like trying to confuse the town. I think he's trying to fake a mistake to appear town. Well, he got his Dylan lynch all right.
mneme wrote:Hmm. Players left who have an unknown alignment to me: DeanWinchester, Mr Stoofer, Albert B. Rampage (r. SpinWizard), Stewie, The Fonz,Yosarian2
I'm pretty sure VD is Liberal, as he says he is -- for the reasons I've stated earlier.
Let's leave out Dean for the moment -- Stoofer's got a point about "too clueless to be scum" though that doesn't clear him.
That leaves us with three scum among Stoofer, Albert, Stewie, Fonz, and Yosarian.
We've had the following distancing:
Stoofer: Yosarian (both ways),
Albert: none (me, but I'm not on the above list). Also, recieving (as spinwizard), Stewie (also as Albert), Fonz (only once, though, and as a secondary)
Stewie: Albert, Dean, (many, many times for both, oddly)
Fonz: Albert, Dean
Yosarian: Stoofer. Both ways.
This is very interesting. First, it seems to indicate that Albert's probably not scum. (would have to be scum with stoofer and yosarian, assuming !bus, and that one's too unlikely to credit for now).
Second, since yosarian and stoofer are probably not -both- scum, that means that stewie and fonz are scum.
That said, Stewie's play has been very good.
Therefore,
Nom: Fonz
I seldom like these kinds of posts; "x and y can't be scum together because x has been attacking y" is often a scum strategy to influence the town's play. The mafia already know who is attacking who, so its easy for x to attack y, both being scum, knowing that their teammate z would arrive to the conclusion that x isn't scum with y and proclaim this to the town.
Err...that was confusing...I'll try to clarify if you ask me more specific questions. Ever since I replaced I've felt this fake, plastic vibe coming from mneme, I can't explain this hunch too well. It would help if everyone would pitch in and accuse me and mneme to set some ideas straighter in my mind.
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