Mini 422 - Paranoia Mafia - Game Over
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Greetings, Friend Citizens. I am exceptionally happy to be here today.
My thoughts: Sefer/M4yhem is absolutely an enemy of Friend Computer. In Post 164 M4yhem states that not all citizens are in secret societies because such societies must be enemies of Friend Computer. I am in a secret society, but I am working for the good of the city. I assume that all Citizens are members of secret societies, and that not all could be enemies of friend computer.
1. Citizen M4yhem is a member of a secret society, as all Friend Citizens are.
2. Citizen M4yhem assumes that all members of secret societies are enemies of Friend Computer.
QED, Citizen M4yhem and his reasonably similar facsimile, Sefer, is a member of a secret society that is an enemy of Friend Computer.
unvote, vote: Sefer"You might very well think that; I couldn'tpossiblycomment."-
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Could you explain why you think Sefer is innocent and Stevie is guilty?Sarcastro wrote:Because Thesp is mean and decided not to tell us exactly when the deadline is, I'm not sure how much time we have left. I am fairly sure, however, that a single vote for Stevie will save a town player and kill a scum one. Come on, guys.
Can we have a deadline extension, oh benevolent mod/computer/whatever?
It's worth a shot."You might very well think that; I couldn'tpossiblycomment."-
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There's one way to know for sure. Lynch me.
My role PM explicitly says I'm on the side of friend computer. I've got this wacky role that redirects people's nightchoices. I have no buddies though.
But the point is that my role PM explicity says I'm a good guy. If my reveal comes up that I'm an enemy of friend computer, then you know we've got a Space Monkey Mafia-type situation."You might very well think that; I couldn'tpossiblycomment."-
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IIRC: The town was told that the gorillas were evil, when the majority of the town was gorillas and the space monkeys were the real mafia.Barromán wrote:
What's that?The Central Scrutinizer wrote:(···) then you know we've got a Space Monkey Mafia-type situation."You might very well think that; I couldn'tpossiblycomment."-
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Bump?
If we think that the Communists are scum, don't lynch me. If we think that anyone whose role pm says that they are specifically in support of Friend Computer is scum lynch me.
AFAIK I'm pro-town, and I want the town to win, and doing this should help the town sort things out."You might very well think that; I couldn'tpossiblycomment."-
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In the absence of evidence to the contrary, I assume I am pro-town. I have no scum group. I have no killing role. So I'm going to act like a townie, even if for some reason my role is not town. I'm not a Communist, I can tell you that much.dahen wrote:TCS: You state two scenarios.
1. Communists are scum. You are town. Town should not lynch you.
2. Pro-computers are scum. You are scum. Town should lynch you.
Of course you are correct that town should lynch you in case two. But the problem is that you would be playing against your own win condition by supporting it. Scum can benefit from helping town and therefore getting trusted, but in this case you would be dead, and the trust would be wasted as soon as town saw you were scum.
This means that if you really think that 2 is a possibility, then you are playing really bad as scum. I don't think so, which means I think that you are probably very certain that number 1 is correct.
One reason that you can be sure of number 1 is if you are a communist and scum yourself. There is something that's not right about you.
Let's just take a poll. I'd like for everyone to answer these two questions, unless you have a role-related reason not to (and in that case, further explanation perhaps?):
1. Are youexplicitypro-Friend Computer?
2. Are you a member of a secret society?
If I'm scum, then I'm screwing scum over. But if not, I may be helping us."You might very well think that; I couldn'tpossiblycomment."-
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I really like him even less today. :\Sarcastro wrote:Are we really trying to speculate on which roles are scum in a game calledParanoia?
How about we disregard everything TCS has said about his role, and lynch him because Mojo acted scummy yesterday?"You might very well think that; I couldn'tpossiblycomment."-
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My role.remussaidow wrote:Friends of the computer, traitors, friend computer, greetings.
eh ehrm....The Central Scrutinizer wrote:All I can say for sure is that Maz Medias did not target Sefer last night... whatever good that does.
WHAT?
This is not a protown statement.
If I didn't have to be up in 5 hours, there might be more. But...
That's not a protown statement. At all, so...
I repeat. WHAT?"You might very well think that; I couldn'tpossiblycomment."-
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To himself.Battle Mage wrote:Christ this game has been going on a while… lol
anyway, ive read it, and here are my notes.
Barroman defensive of PWS/Stark
Stevie-scum pushed Stark hard. Probably town.
Lots of OMGUSing. Stevie wagons M4yh3m.
Stuff lost in crash.
M4h3m OMGUSes Stevie. Baroman and Sarcastro wagon.
Notably, CES ignores this move, and votes for M4yh3m instead.
Dahen make a nice, but not very concise pbpa. Ill admit to not reading the entirety of that one :p
Sefer replaces M4yh3m. apologises for his play, and unvotes Stevie. Im not sure whether scum would do that.
Sarcastro asks Stevie to claim. Dahen hammers Stevie. End of Day VoteCount is wrong, but it doesn’t matter.
TCS offers to commit suicide. Sarc obliges. PWS votes Sarc. TCS reverts back to random voting.
Remus wagons TCS.
TCS could you please clarify how exactly your role works?
You redirect choices right? So last night you directed MM’s choice where?
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If my lame ass ability can even be considered, a "power role" then spot-on. But as scum I'd rather take a chance at killing a threat than shooting someone with my completely worthless power. I revealed what info I had because I thought maybe someone with another power role might make use of it.
Lynch me if you think I'm scum, and if you think it's bad play, I simply won't do it again."You might very well think that; I couldn'tpossiblycomment."-
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Mathematically, my chances of doing anything with this role are infinitesimal.remussaidow wrote:well, see now. The ability your role generates is to get a suspected scum to shoot himself. You don't have that ability anymore, unless you get a lucky guess tonight."You might very well think that; I couldn'tpossiblycomment."-
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I explained it already.
I send the mod 3 names. My target, the person they target, and who to redirect the ability to. Which is why it's virtually a worthless ability.
However, predicting that Sefer would be targeted last night, and thinking Maz was scum, I redirected Maz's ability (if he had one) to himself.
So.
If you think I'm scum, you're either an idiot, haven't read page 14, or think I'm an idiot. "Please lynch me if we want to figure everything out" is the stupidist scum gambit in the history of scum gambits, especially with one dead already."You might very well think that; I couldn'tpossiblycomment."-
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EBWOP: I'm pissed because there IS no confusion. You quoted the mod's message, which I missed. If I had read that, I would not be confused at all.
If you're confused, lynch me. If you think I'm scum, don't because you're painfully wrong."You might very well think that; I couldn'tpossiblycomment."-
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Erm... because it's probably not actually his role? And if it is, I don't see how it's necessarily anti-town.Peter Venkman wrote:
Are you joking?The Central Scrutinizer wrote:Claiming ridiculous roles in a relatively inactive game is a null-tell to me. In fact, I'd be more willing to say he's town.
The role he claimed is clearly anti-town.
Why would a town player make up something like that?
-Peter
Why would a town player make something up like that? Because the game is on life support and no one is posting a damn thing?
I did similar things in Clue Mafia, and was lynched in two out of three games for overly aggressive behavior in a dead game. While I suppose I WAS scum in those games, I would do the same thing as town."You might very well think that; I couldn'tpossiblycomment."-
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<--------- Did all of those things, IIRCMr. Flay wrote:
Well, you've already refused to give role information in the past, so I think it shows that you're worried about a pattern. No one else seems to share that concern.PlaysWithSquirrels wrote:Flay: Any reason you think I'm being evasive other than me not revealing my clearance.
But totally aside from the lack of clearance, I'm voting you because you didn't suspect Stevie on Day One, you doubt that the Communists are scum, and you went after Sarcastro before he ended up dead and apparently pro-town."You might very well think that; I couldn'tpossiblycomment."-
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zomg los ojosPlaysWithSquirrels wrote:
Holy shit! This just hit me: shouldn't you have recognized that it was the townie role PM?!?Peter Venkman wrote:Ugh, isn't posting your role PM explicitly against the rules?
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Vote: Peter Venkman
Bad logic... you misread."You might very well think that; I couldn'tpossiblycomment."-
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