Mini 413 - Famous CATS - Over! Quit pussyfooting around!

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hey guys I'm going to be replacing... well someone. After I get my role I'll be rereading, expect me to begin actively posting after a giant large one in the next week or so.

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I will do this reread in 5-10 pages at a time. Maybe tomorrow before class I can get some done too.

CC is either Battle Mage or it's someone faking him.

Quoting goodness.

<3 Zindy

Glork seems town so far.

Zebras are striped. They are like tabby horses.

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DGB has a Z as the first letter in every single one of his posts I think.....

Going through her posts I see she has claimed. = \

That's a real stretch though isn't it? The entire strength about mason groups, the one thing that makes them worthwhile is the fact that two people can confirm each other. I could confirm myself to myself now, and it wouldn't have any more weight than what you've tried to do there. The fact that you have two accounts is cute, but it still doesn't go beyond 'I am innocent because I say I am innocent'. Leaving the mafia to deal with you is also a complete avoidance of the issue anytime soon, seeing as you've been scummy enough to last quite a way into this game, and the double account factor will get people twitchy earlier than they probably should be, making you a prime mislynch opportunity.

I completely disagree with this. Two roles have confirmed each other which is the same thing as two people.....

Other than it essentially being a mafia double voter

how

are two players helpful to the mafia? That would be insanely broken, since if they're outed, the scum are screwed unless it's a larger scumgroup, and if they make it to endgame with too many people in the scumgroup, then town is screwed if they're not outed.

FoS:Primate

I see primate has claimed..... Little Nicky's cloned future cat..... Looking at the kill count I realise that there isn;t a lynch day 2. So I went and looked to see if Primate had been lynched. Yep.

You don't think Primate could be a town turned SK after being lynched?

An Sk reviver cat would be justified.... halfway real, as it's not animated, and halfway scum, as it's fictional, and clearly all of the other confirmed roles have been non fictional cats.

At the end of page 6 I feel it necessary to post this. I have not read any further yet, so I apologize if I am repeating someone or just stating something that has been completely refuted.

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Let me get you up to speed, IH, with what we know.

-Pooky was Scum, and was lynched.
-Glork has claimed to be a Cop. He sends a message to his target in the night with three questions, one being "Are you scum?" If they answer, he gets their alignment. And the answers are put into the opening post of the day.
-DGB has claimed to be an inventor role, and has a posting restriction of Z for the first letter of every post. Supposedly she gives three people go give her item to, and loses one of those choices that night. For some reason, half the time her first choice hasn't gotten an item.
-I am a Vig/Role Cop, with heavy restrictions on both. My predecessor vigged Thesp. I also have 3 votes to lynch, as opposed to the usual to-lynch vote.
- Primate claimed to be a Cloned Cat, who has a life for every 50k he's given. He, supposedly, has 2 lives left, if I counted correctly. Massive was the one funding him.
- I forget the word he used, but Skruffs has claimed a role that has X many choices, and may use one of the numbers at night, which gives a pseudo-random response. Supposedly, he's also got a doctor role from DGB.
- Theo claimed to be a Vig. I don't believe he was ever successful. Glork has a guilty result on him.
- And Carbon Copy is really Zindaras, who was able to control two accounts as pseudo-masons.

Have I missed anything?

I've read all of that except yours, Primates finished claim, or THeo.

Has Glork been confirmed?

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mmk, hold on I'll have to look at my role again,

but I know you're inspector cat, town = ) I remember because I figured you had gotten some kind of result on blahgo day one.

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I am Socks, Bill CLintons cat. I am a type of rolecop, and I couldn't use my power until buddy is gone. I was also a mason with Thesp (I think) but he died night 1, correct?

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:embarrased: Fred the undercover kitty. I don't know why I read that as inspector cat, but I realized I had to be mistaken when I saw Glork claim his rolename.

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I should finish this reread tomorrow btw. I'm on page 31. Why is DGB still alive?
= |

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IH has no gift....

Nai, I would suggest you don't use your ability, because of the dangers, but I'm sure you know.

Does the town think there is any merit in Glork and I investigating the same person (even if I'm unconfirmed) I'm unsure if I'll get an alignment every time (there was something alluding to that in my PM), but i will get a role and flavor everytime, not to mention, it seems to an almost confirmed way to get an investigation if CC protects Glork, as my death would only confirm Glork all the more.

I will also attempt to finish the last 13 pages tonight.

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.....Are you sure he said it was one shot?

There is no indication in my PM that it is....

The only stipulations I have is that I can't use it until Buddy is gone, and some information may be missing that is related to other players or alignment.

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Apparently my replacement had either left or had misunderstood, as the mod said he failed to get a choice in last night....

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I have just reviewed my ability, and I'm pretty sure it is not a one shot ability, especially since I got a PM saying that he failed to get an action in which would indeed indicate that it is not a one shot ability.

Did Miztef post any today?

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My readover time has been limited, but whenever I get a good sitdown (which could be tomorrow depending on how my battery feels (that whore my laptop battery)) I should finish it.

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IH does not mean to be lurking, but IH needs to finish his read before he ends the day.

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Do you still think that, or DID you think that.

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Last page I confirmed it is not a one shot ability. I don't know what Miztef was doing when he stated as such.

I feel like I'm back in that newbie game where I replaced a townie claiming doc = (

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But, you know, it's not like you defended scum irrationally yesterday. Then dropped your vehemence against Glork today when he came up scum.

I dunno....

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IH apologizes for lurking.

Would everyone like to see the first half of my read, or have I already posted it.

X_X; I seem to be doing this alot lately.

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I'm not seeing as much to post about, since alot of these interactions are with players that are already dead. Like Dead interacting with the dead, which are looking useless.

Glork's points sound... well... sound, especially unarmed with information.

I would look at Zindy's alt again if Ubertimmy comes up scum I think, especially with CC still alive.... why wouldn't you kill a confirmed player?(see below)

Sorry, I have the SATs this weekend. been kinda busy.

I believe Zindaras's flavor too much to think he's scum... but what are you proposing glork? He has a scum side and a town side? I'm just a little overwhelmed, if you could summarize your accusations on him it'd really help me decide on that issue.

It's very.... trusting.

I've been left a special pussy treat by some kind feline . . .

Oh and for now FOS Dripping Goofball far too many questions, mind I'm eager to test Primate's claim aswell, for if he's lying we're up shit creek without a paddle so Vote Primate.

Theo you hardly posted day one, and you fos someone for asking to many questions?

FoS

It should be noted Theo was criticizing people for not posting much day 1 when he did the same thing (Somewhere around the bottom of page 10)

Yep, I'm obviously scum, because I wasn't on the lynch of a townie and I have perfectly valid reasons for it. Good Job, theopor, you're the best player ever.

And I warn you, if theopor has a doublevote, I am very, very, very close to being lynched. so please, unvote.

I'm unsure this is valid....

Uh, yeah, Brain, but how are we going to get wetsuits in our size?

Glork wins this thread.

post 269 is a bit of a turn around from Glork. Why?

Actually, I have some other things I want people to weigh in on:

-What do you think of the discussion Primate and I had about Phoebus's role? Do you think he was an SK or a Survivor? (please read the argument first)
-What do you think of Goofy's claim?

A lyncher

Infact Unvote WizardCat, Vote DGB, Vote DGB

Surely if you break a restriction like the Z's one then it's false?

horrible logic. What do you expect, the mod to modkill her just like that? Rebuke her in thread?I'm not saying it's a point in her favor, I'm saying it's a point that you are scum.

Normally I would say that a supposed restricted post role who breaks their restriction is modkilled or faking it - unfortunately I have seen other games where the mod was too lenient in this respect, leading into the lynching of a post-restricted townie who made several mistakes in his post restriction. I would not put too much on the continued presence of DGB in this game in that sense.

QFT. I would say it was a loss of power or a warning. See post restriction three, where I was lynched, purely because I broke my restriction two times, thereby losing my power, and lynching me at the same time. (which was crap)

I'm unsure of DP's vote on Wizardcat..... (Post 304)

I'm feeling that the cats in this game (the real ones, at least) have some sort of historic importance/can be found in history, therefore, I believe that the claim is false

I disagree with my predecessors assessment.

Zi give out inventions I dream up. I don't know what they do, beyond granting abilities, but they're so important I have to have 2 backup targets, in case my first choice can't receive it.

Zindies alt got this night 0
I continue to think my Primate SK theory is becoming more plausible

Primate said that he has two lives - and that for some reason this makes Zindaras' two players very scummy. GLork pushed hard for a zindaras lynch, sayign that if he turns up town, he would be trying very hard in the morrow to not let Primate get away with it.
Now that I know Glork didn't target Primate last night, he has no more reason now to think primate is town than he did yesterday, and yet he has basically demurred on this.
Bait and Switch, and I don't like it.
Vote : Glork
woo

Slight FoS:Skruffs

I see Glork's claim
I see Skruffs misreading something obvious.... (<3 Skruffs)

FoS:DGB

for post 450 I think....

MAJOR FoS:DGB for post 456

Glork Clearly stated he could tell alignments, not lies. So if he got answers from town they were true. If he got answers from scum, he would have a VERY educated guess.
GLork have you considered, that in a bout of bastard mafia, the alignment you get is dependent on their answers? I'm unsure if this is valid or not.

I believe you were reasonably certain that either Zindaras or Primate were scum, and you pushed for a primate. Now you are reasonably sure that me or Primate is scum, and you are not going after primate, again.

Err no, he chose Zindie, as Zindie was lynched.

I am not suggesting that we lynch primate twice. Personally, if he's scum, and was lying counterclaiming, than once would be enough. If he's town, than he wasn't lying, and once would clear him.

BUT
there are bigger more likely scumfish to fry.
Imma gonna be lurky-slackin' the next ten days or so.. but i iwll post at least every other day.

Major:FoS Skruffs

A slight scumchat meta. I see Skruffs do this alot of the time as scum. You see he leaves out the possibility of Primate being scum with this ability.
In my last scumchat game with Skruffs, we took the town in very nicely, and if it wasn't for my screwup, woulda owned them. It involved Skruffs claiming KIT, a cop, and a vig, and something similar in this natu

[quote="Glork]I'm reasonably sure that I've seen a double-life godfather in another game, though my memory fails me right now... I'll have to check that.
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You forget how badly your last precedent failed.
I withdraw my comments about Primate, because I figured for some reason he was talking about that damn Adam Sandler movie.
>.<;
DGB seems to be content to try and disprove every role claim.
Primates role would be incredibly broken as scum. I would believe he was town (You'd have to lynch him three times)

who replaced ubertimmy?

Number one is that we know that there are no vanilla townies in this game. I also don't think that a vampiric role of that nature, in the hands of scum, would take the players vote.

But Thesp was a mason.
If he wasn't allowed to talk to me, then he'd get his vote.
Or else perhaps he's a vote stealer, but he kills.
This game is high in theoreticalness
Nai's intro makes sense.
I am confident DGB is scum. If she is an inventor, perhaps Felix.
there were WAY to many DGB and Pooky posts on page 26
That Pooky explosion after no posting at all would have made me vote him.
I kind of want to think Nai is protown.
I'm unsure of Skruffs, as everyone else has been a real famous cat, and not a fictional famous cat.... I feel it could be a fake claim.
Page 31
Now I'll have to REREAD my read so I won't have to go back, and can just start on page 31

Apologies for anything that has confused things about claims, as this was made like in the first or second day I replaced in

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Oh. Em. Gee, half of that read is gone.... (stuff from day one and such)

SEARCHING.

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................

(sigh)

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Confirming something.

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Skruffs is innocent, btw.

Vote:DGB

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Well I'm still clarifying my investigation with the mod, BUT I aksed him about my action cause I got it late (this morning to be honest cause he forgot).

His reaction and response to it makes me think that it's probably candid, even if he did give me the wrong thing, and Skruffs is actually innocent.

pod I am unsure if I am capable of getting a guilty result, because if the player was guilty I may have just gotten part of their role, but it turns out the two investigations I've recieved innocent and such.

Still waiting to see if I get any of Skruff's role.

Also, don't forget that Nai was highly restricted, as if he had used his power, he would have automatically put himself at lynch -1.

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Skruffs is apparently some sort of shapeshifter who can't control it well.

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Just end the game....?

positive that it will end the game?

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DGB you're already lynched btw.

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From a game balance perspective I wonder if those scum had powers, or if there's not a fourth...

I will be investigating carbon copy tonight.

Also if Glork turns out to be a godfather I will be angry.

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So Skruffs is a naive cop...

or else he takes on the alignment of whoever he targets to investigations.

I'm unsure which.

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When i targetted the dog n1, i got an innocent result on myself. When i targetted ih n4, i got, first, 'skruffs is good', and then 'ih is good'.
The mod apparently made a mistake with the names originally.

I based it on that. If you shapeshifted into them, and it was flavorly based off of that, you could be naive by you being innocent.

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Did the scum have any powers?

Bertrand won't reveal the setup? = (

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wow scum were secretly giving town powers as well as an incredibly overpowered town....

I think Bert just hates Pooky.

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you are Socks, Bill Clinton's Cat.

You lived in the White House, after being adpoted by Chelsea Clinton.
You share your water bowl with a stray Tabby named Slippers. Slippers
recently alerted you that trouble was afoot in the quiet cat-loving town
of Minto. See, everyone there loves cats. Real, furry cats. But he has
told you that a gang of animated, cartoon cats are trying to eradicate
the town of real cats in order to take over as the town's favorite pet.
You and Slippers have since travelled to the town of Minto to save the
feline population.

Remember I said lived? Yeah, in 1997, you were kicked out of the White
House by some stupid dog named Buddy. Bill must have thought the US
population preferred dogs so he gave you to his secretary in the hopes
that Buddy would get him more voters than you... that damn dog. You have
been dreaming of revenge every night since. It's haunting your dreams.
Once that damn dog is gone, you can spend your nights doing something
more productive than plotting revenge. Once Buddy is gone, you may PM me
the name of a player, and you will recieve that player's role name,
flavor, and role. Some information involving other players may be
missing, as well as alignment.

You may also communicate with Slippers (Thesp) at night.

You win when all animated/cartoon cats are gone.

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions,
~Bert