Mini 413 - Famous CATS - Over! Quit pussyfooting around!

[Glork]

If

you use your random ability, you are to use it on DGB.

Vote: Theo

... not sure if that's a hammer or not, but I'm ready for this day to be over... once the mod gets back.

[Glork]

Protect Zindaras.

Target either nobody or DGB. I'm leaving it up to you because I am interested to see what you will choose.

I thought I made this clear already.

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No, Skruffs.

You will protect Carbon Copy tonight.

CC is responsible for protecting me. If I die overnight, then CC will come under a lot of scrutiny for failing to protect me. Your job is to protect CC. I think that you saying you want to protect me is your way of getting rid of the other "Doctor" role out there.


You will protect CC, take your other action on DGB or nobody, and that's it. CC has outlined why he is very likely scum. Making one role protown and the same-player-controlled player scum makes zero sense whatsoever, and I do not currently believe in the existence of a "Death Godfather."

[Glork]

Town. Why he is very likely town.



Jesus balls. This seems to be happening a lot lately.

[Glork]

Vote: Theo, Vote: Theo

?

[Glork]

Er... does Carbon Copy not have a vote at all?

Sorry, I fixed it.

[Glork]

Somebody just hammer and end this miserable excuse for a day.

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I already tried doublevoting Theo, and it didn't work.

Also, I thought IH's investigation was only one-shot.

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Well now I'm unsure, because I don't remember exactly.

[Glork]

So, I have some really important information.

I got to investigate a person last night (one-shot ability). So I'll go right out and say

Glork is "Fred the Undercover Kitty". He is Pro-town.

[Glork]

Oh, I missed your post amidst the lengthy squabble between CC and Pantsman.

Did you/Miztef make any other actions? If so, what results? If not, why not (aside from Miztef's inactivity last night)?

[Glork]

Hm. Well, at least I can get some last thoughts in.


I would give very, very,

VERY

serious consideration to lynching Skruffs as a Godfather. The way he tried to talk me out of making Zindaras the middle of the protection chain is extremely suspect, as have been his attempts to deflect time, attention, votes, and just about everything from Theo.

Fact is, as bad as DGB's play has been, her role

doesn't

make sense in scums' hands. We've been told that there will be bastard-modding, and somebody who has zero control over her gifts makes some sense to me. I have seen no alternative as to why Carbon Copy et al could have gotten their abilities

I would force complete

name claims

out of everybody. Use those as credibility checks -- I might be wrong afterall. From what I remember, DGB's nameclaim seems the most sketch. Maybe she

is

the dirty birdy afterall.

Miztef/IH is almost certainly guaranteed town, I think, in spite of Miztef's lie about his ability being one-shot. The timing of his support for me definitely indicates that he's probably legit, as he could have let me take the fall instead of condemning Pooky yesterday.

Nai is definitely town as well. Don't even consider lynching him. Primate and CarbonCopy are really about as confirmed as one can get as well.

I think that it's really a decision as to whether the last scum is DGB or Skruffs. By my count, we should have two lynches to work with anyway, so long as you lynch Theo today. (If his kill ends the night

TONIGHT:

Skruffs, protect CarbonCopy and use your mystery-ability on DGB.
CarbonCopy, protect one of Nai/IH/Primate. You may want to choose randomly, or you may want to weight the likelihood of who you protect. It's up to you -- just don't tell anybody what you're planning ahead of time. Make the scums guess.
DGB, if you're town, I would either name Primate/IH/Nai as your list, or simply take no action tonight. As sure as I am that those three are town, giving scum power could be the end of us.
IH -- assuming it doesn't kill you or something, use an investigation, if possible.
Nai/Primate -- sight tight and watch the fireworks.

If the scums kill Skruffs, fine. That's one of the top suspects out of the way. Re-evaluate and move on from there. If they try to kill Zindaras, they should fail. If Zindie dies, run up Skruffs with no questions asked. (There is no Mafia Roleblocker because they would have blocked me nightly, as soon as I claimed.)


So, um, yeah. Go town. Don't fuck this one up for me.

[Glork]

EDIT: Actually, Primate's argument for Massive handing out gifts makes sense. Perhaps you should run up DGB after Theo, and if that fails, then look at Skruffs.

[Glork]

NO. PROTECT CARBON COPY TONIGHT. PERIOD. END OF STORY.

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And Nai, I didn't know if Theo would daykill. I just posted all relevant thoughts that came to my head as soon as I read the post. The reason it probably seems well thought-out is because I have a very clear picture of this game, even if I haven't been posting much lately. If I really have been daykilled, it can only help to get my thoughts on the table.

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Seriously, if CarbonCopy dies,

LYNCH SKRUFFS REGARDLESS OF WHAT HE SAYS HE IS OR WHAT HE SAYS HE DID

.

The arguments for CarbonCopy being town (especially the fact that Zindaras is town) are too great. Skruffs wants to do anything but protect a claimed Doctor, when that is the

OBVIOUS

play to make. Why? He likely needs to eliminate the protection role to ensure that he can kill on future nights, in the unlikely event that he *does* die.

There's something up with Miztef/IH's role, that's for sure. Aside from the missed night due to Miztef's disappearance, there must be some reason that he has only made one investigation so far. Whether IH knows that reason or not, I haven't the faintest idea. But there is no guarantee that IH will make a successful investigation.


I would suggest that CarbonCopy use some kind of weighted randomization for the three likely-town roles (IH, Nai, Primate), much as I stated I would do in Scrubs Mafia. It gives better odds of protecting the more confirmed and/or powerful roles, but still adds an element of uncertainty. It is absolutely the right play to make.

If CC rejects this idea, I would propose the following:
Skruffs protect CC
CC protect IH
IH investigate as he sees fit.


The fact is, though, that CC is practically confirmed as an innocent, and he has claimed to be a Doc. Skruffs, you have to accept this fact, even if CC suspects you. If you are town and you protect CC, then the mafia has no good kill to make.
If they kill you, they are offing one of the top two remaining suspects.
If they kill elsewhere, there is a significant chance that their kill will fail.
If they try to kill Zindaras, they will fail. Period.

And regardless of what happens, Zindaras

will

be able to protect the following night. Even if he doesn't think you are town, Skruffs, that's insignificant. If he survives, you guys probably lynch DGB tomorrow. If he dies, you are a dead man. Capiche?

[Glork]

Could I have a summary of nameclaims? I seem to be unable to find several of them.

[Glork]

Bahahahaha.

Ownd, Theo.

[Glork]

Also, I'm okay with the "Skruffs protect CC, CC protect IH" plan

as long as IH can guarantee meaningful results tomorrow

.

[Glork]

Actually, yeah, I would like CC to confirm that he'll protect me (if I survive the day) or IH (if I don't).

In retrospect, Theo's "Kill" makes me , considering I just fake-daykilled somebody in a game recently.

Also,

Modprod: IH

, please.

[Glork]

I still want *YOU* to protect *CC*, Pantscat.

Remember that, if this game has a Godfather role (which I find likely), I am almost certainly useless at this point anyway, other than as a confirmed innocent. However, in my eyes, there are two other confirmed innocents: Primate and CC. And CC has a much more useful role than I would. There is zero doubt in my mind that you should be protecting him.

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IH's ability is unreliable at best. I still have yet to see an explanation as to why, if we've had FOUR nights, there has only been ONE investigation result. Surely Miztef didn't miss

THREE

nights, did he?

...as long as you agree to protect CC. I would hope that he weights towards protecting IH more, but I still would like him to use a small randomness factor to keep the scums guessing.

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Oh, right. Phoebus or whoever it was had to die.

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Oh my god, just freaking kill him already.


I'm seriously considering asking for replacement because this game has been dragged out for so goddamned long for two straight days for seemingly little-to-no reason at all.

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EBWOP: But I'm not, because that'd just be even more hell on the other players in the game, as well as the mod.


Solution: I'm going to lurk for the remainder of today. Somebody wake me up when it's night.

[Glork]

I want to see. Post it, post it!

<3

[Glork]

Okay, I got a guilty on DGB.

Vote: DGB

GG, folks.

[Glork]

I get Good/Evil.

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Well, all I know is that I had an innocent on an innocent (Thesp) and two guilties on two guilties (Pooky, Theo).

Innocent on Skruffs and Guilty on DGB are my outstanding investigations. I'm going with my own result.

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Also, there's still:

• DGB's completely unreasonable defense of Pooky;
  
• The inconsistency in her "What happens if I mess up my post restriction" claims;
  
• Her claimed rolename, which I maintain is not a "famous" cat by any means

Just end the game, Primate. -_-

[Glork]

Just end the game....?

positive that it will end the game?

I'm assuming that DGB is in fact scum. (Note that she hasn't bothered to respond to the fact that I have a result on her and instead has simply said "Hey, Glork is scum!" with an OMGUS vote.) And I'm assuming that there are only three scums left.


So, yes, I believe that the game is over with Primate's hammer of DGB.

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My role was, um.... exactly as I had described.