Mini 419: Farkle Mafia (Game Over)

bertrand · Post Post #405 (isolation #0) » Sun Jun 24, 2007 4:12 pm

Hii. I'm your replacement for um... Adele.

I've read about halfway, a lot of confusing die-rolling.. I'll post some thoughts tomorrow. I just got back from GP Montreal, and I got about 4 hours of sleep between two really busy days.

bertrand · Post Post #410 (isolation #1) » Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:46 pm

Read.

We don't have a really good case on anyone. Though CES is probably our beat lead, I'n not nearly ready for a lynch. We need to find more things to discuss..

CES's behavior seemed more like silly/strange than scummy. The fact that he's using a gimmick to make himself harder to read doesn't look good to me either. I just don't think it's a strong enough case for a lynch, yet.

I'd like to hear more from a34maniac and Seol.

bertrand · Post Post #412 (isolation #2) » Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:20 pm

CES is my best guess but it's not a very good one. After that I'd put the two lurkers.

And maybe Dagger, but there's really not much reason behind that. I don't like how he started the Nocmen wagon on day 1 out of nothing.

bertrand · Post Post #439 (isolation #3) » Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:32 pm

ThAdmiral wrote:If it doesn't offend thesp too much I would like to suggest lynching ces and vigging kilmenator. That should make everyone happy (with the exception of those two).
Or to go one step further lynching ces and if he turns up mafia
not vigging
kilmenator as I doubt they are both scum.

I don't like this post one bit..

bertrand · Post Post #444 (isolation #4) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:17 am

ThAdmiral wrote:
bertrand wrote:I don't like this post one bit..
Why, because it's logical?
We seem to be at a standstill and these are our two main targets. I don't want to go through another day without a lynch.

Because it's settling up chain kills and speeding up the day.

"Hmm, it seems everyone has narrowed it down to two people, and it seems they're both town! Perfect! All I have to do is suggest the lynching of one and the vigging of another and everyone is happy! And it gets rid of two townies! And I don't even get blamed 'cause I didn't start either wagon! Sounds like a plan!"

bertrand · Post Post #447 (isolation #5) » Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:42 am

ThAdmiral wrote:Alright.

Lynch ces and then vig me if he's not scum.

Are you that convinced he's scum?

Because if we do this and you're wrong, we're screwed. I don't like this plan either.

bertrand · Post Post #467 (isolation #6) » Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:05 am

Both Thesp and kilmenator have used the "does not make sense" to avoid responding to arguments.. I don't likw that...

Thesp is making sense but all of that seems like a stretch and is based on guesses resting upon assumptions.. I don't buy it.

I still think CES is the best candidate for now.. I'm still hoping we find better though. [which means, either a better case on ces or on someone else]

bertrand · Post Post #475 (isolation #7) » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:29 pm

Dagger wrote:I would be perfectly happy with a push in Kilm's direction.

y

[why?]

bertrand · Post Post #492 (isolation #8) » Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:03 pm

Dagger wrote:
bertrand wrote:
Dagger wrote:I would be perfectly happy with a push in Kilm's direction.
y

[why?]
Because I think she is scum and I have a vote on her.

y

bertrand · Post Post #494 (isolation #9) » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:34 pm

I want to know Dagger's reasoning for the vote.. I don't see why he's avoiding revealing it..

bertrand · Post Post #507 (isolation #10) » Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:45 pm

Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:Okay, so here's the thing.

Bertrand's latest posts are bothering me. He hardly gives any opinion in his posts, and he went from 'CESc is probably the best candidate for a lynch, but I don't feel comfortable lynching him' to 'CES is the pretty much the lynch for today' without any reasoning.

Mostly because no better cases have come up and we don't have infinate time.

And it's hard to make opinions when people are voting then avoiding explanation of their actions, such as Dagger's reasoning which I am still waiting for.

Dagger wrote: Oh, then why don't you say so directly instead of asking so vaguely?

I fail to see how "vote kilmenator" "why?" is vague, but oh well, thanks for answering.

That said, I don't think that's a good reason at all, unless we know for a fact CES isn't scum. And that's not something I'd bet on.

bertrand · Post Post #578 (isolation #11) » Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:25 pm

I'm going to be abest from now until Friday night.

I still think CES is our best bet, simply from vibes, but i don't want to vote as I don't know the count.

bertrand · Post Post #660 (isolation #12) » Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:12 am

That looks good to me - does anyone see anything wrong with that post? It's only 4 to vote so I will not do that until a couple people have posted. No rush.

bertrand · Post Post #661 (isolation #13) » Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:25 am

I also think ThAdmiral was a good candidate - he was setting up chain lynches, directing the vig, and all on townies..

Am I supposed to Farkle now?

bertrand · Post Post #687 (isolation #14) » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:40 am

I'm vanilla. Not even any flavor...

(though technically, vanilla is a flavor)

mmmm...

Never done anything..

Note: I'm not sure I believe Dagger, but I'm in a bad position to point that out... whoops? I just did? Oh well..

bertrand · Post Post #690 (isolation #15) » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:50 am

Dagger wrote:
bertrand wrote:Note: I'm not sure I believe Dagger, but I'm in a bad position to point that out... whoops? I just did? Oh well..
I could say the same of ya, but let's reserve judgment until this whole thing is over, shall we?

That's why I said I was in a bad position to do so

has Jordan picked up his prod?

bertrand · Post Post #699 (isolation #16) » Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:46 pm

I don't get how being indecisive is a scummy trait. It's something that mgiht benefit scum, but it's completely normal for any player.

Also, saying something doesn't make sense is only a valid response to nonsense

Otherwise, don't have much to say.

So, Dagger, Jordan and I have claimed vanilla, Thesp has some sort of investigation, and Admiral says doc..

bertrand · Post Post #715 (isolation #17) » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:56 pm

vote Dagger

I think he's a better choice then Admiral.. I can't see this day ending with anyone else, so..

Dagger has reached an unprecedented level of scumminess in some ways.. and he contradicted himself a lot..

bertrand · Post Post #720 (isolation #18) » Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:18 am

Vote Thesp

I don't think it's Jordan, if it were, I'd be dead. That Leaves Thesp.

And convincing Jordan it's Thesp. I'm not sure how to so that... it's all up to you man. Anything you'd like to ask me?

bertrand · Post Post #726 (isolation #19) » Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:21 am

@Thesp: I didn't mean that if Jordan were scum he would have nightkilled me. I mean, if he were scum, he would have just voted me off now and won.

JordanA24 wrote:Why isn't indecisiveness a scum trait?

Well, scum might have a motive ro be indecisive. But it could also be a townie who just doesn't know what to do.

JordanA24 wrote:
Bertrand wrote:Are you that convinced he's scum?

Because if we do this and you're wrong, we're screwed. I don't like this plan either.
Why did you seem to assume that ThAdmiral is town here?

Because, I'm pointing out that his plan is very dangerous. The risk of him being wrong alone was not worth it. I didn't even factor in the risk of him being scum. It just wasn't needed.

JordanA24 wrote:
I wrote:After that, he went silent for a while, and then had no access for a week. And then went missing for the rest of Day 2, even missing his turn, before FINALLY coming back near the end of Day 3, saying the Death_Omen wagon looked good, but not voting him, in fact, he even suggested an alternative target, ThAdmiral.
Where were you all this time? Why did you suggest ThAdmiral as an alternative target?

[/quote]

Reasons are listed right in that post below the question.. I thought that was reason enough.

In that time I was on a 2 week vacation, and my mind was elsewhere at other times.. :\

JordanA24 wrote:
Bertrand wrote:I also think ThAdmiral was a good candidate - he was setting up chain lynches, directing the vig, and all on townies..

[/quote]

bertrand · Post Post #728 (isolation #20) » Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:39 pm

CES was the only person I thought was the slightest bit scummy, we didn't have much... what did you want me to do? Pretend someone was scummy?

There was no dishonesty in that post.

bertrand · Post Post #731 (isolation #21) » Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:51 am

JordanA24 wrote:Well, you said "We need to find more things to discuss", you've the one who's just replaced in and reread the game, why didn't you bring something up? Why didn't you try to take a more proactive stance towards the game in general?

By doing what? Throwing a random accusation out? I had nothing. I'm just not that confident, I guess.

bertrand · Post Post #736 (isolation #22) » Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:43 am

Daykill: Thesp