1028 The house of Claudius (game over)

[Ademisk]

How are quotes 2, 3, 4, 6, 7 scummy? 2, 3, 4 was me pressuring Fate on his poor play and trying to explain that L-1 was bad, with which you guys apparently didn't agree. In 6 I asked you for a reason for your vote, which you ignored. And in 7 I clarified to Huck because he missed my implication. 8 and 10 were just me starting to give up.

Thanks for that Elli, but I still don't see any reason. And I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm just still a bit disappointed due to what I see as bad play from mostly everyone. If there really was something I did wrong, I'd like to take this chance to learn from it.

[TheButtonmen]

My top 3 pieces of advice for what it's worth would be Wagons are good, votes without reason aren't inherently scummy and the best defense is a good offense.

[Ellibereth]

But that's the thing, L-1 ISN'T BAD, which seemed to the main misconception that led to 2, 3, 4, and 6. (Along with the false logic that L-1 = quicklynch in 4). In 7 the VI suggestion was bad.
Also, the "RVS is over so Unvote" thing you did on me is also not that good.
Button's points are also all good.

[Ademisk]

Yea, the L-1 thing just seemed inherently bad. I've never seen it in RVS before, but it seems to be not nearly as big a deal as it is later on.

@Buttonmen: Would you agree that votes without reason are at least not good? In my first game, that was a point of interest when we were scum hunting, so maybe I was just prematurely exposed to a bad tactic. Wagons were frowned upon too, if joined by votes with little or no reason. I agree with your 3rd point though, I've been noticing that people tend to get away with things they did for a while if they manage to shift attention to another person regardless of the validity of the arguments (not that thats bad).

[TheButtonmen]

@Buttonmen: Would you agree that votes without reason are at least not good?

No, both reasonless votes and wagons are perfectly acceptable.

[Fate]

i felt like there wouldnt be a cop
surprised i got hammered after voting myself. i felt that would make me look frustrated and town.
well played ellibereth

lol like I'd fall for that.

[Fate]

Ademisk you were "pressuring" me on my "poor play" but when I did stuff that was even worse you failed to call me out on it. You were inconsistent. I lynched you for it.

I don't do newbtells I lynch em and let em learn. Next time you suspect someone keep it up and continue to probe their play and question their actions.

And don't ignore Fate.

[MeMe]

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