large normal 218: tweets (bong)

[Creature]

I'm still trying to know how many scums are in this duet to try to vote smartly.

Scum him would already know his team size.

this looks like a legit town slip to me.

Still don't know why Sash jumped on me saying there are four scum when the game size clearly pointed to four scum and no one treats it as a potential slip anyway.

[Creature]

VOTE: Enigma

[Creature]

Still don't know why Sash jumped on me saying there are four scum when the game size clearly pointed to four scum and no one treats it as a potential slip anyway.

I told you, I didn't remember this Mod, Schadd, was giving that info openly. I thought it was 4 to but I was just unsure, I saw a game that had a serial killer not too long ago, making it 1-3-13 or something. Sorry for that.

Serial killers suck anyway and most mods won't add it I guess.

[Creature]

Why is Eyes town again?

[Creature]

I keep leaking I’m actually so mad rn lmao

gj

[Creature]

Actually the worst post you’ve made by far. Of course there will be inconsistency regardless because we tr based on different tells, replacements are usually known to be a threat to scum because

they see stuff that people didn’t see at the time the current action happened

It makes even more sense to me now. Thanks. I was wrong indeed.

Damn, I keep hating Sash's posts

[Creature]

Maybe that's just town

[Creature]

Still, losing to scum!Sash would be pretty embarrassing

[Creature]

Do me proud.

Let's do Eyes

[Creature]

If RC flips town, we lynch Sasha, agreed, BuJ?

@Creature give thoughts on this

Dunno, I suspect both could easily be town.

[Creature]

So I can prove my point since people don’t listen to me.

Are you Ankamius?

[Creature]

Enigma (3): Creature, Lycanfire, Sashaddin
RCEnigma (3): BuJaber, Nero Cain, insomnia

Sweet

[Creature]

(I don't trust these wagons)

[Creature]

I keep losing interest in this game.

[Creature]

Luckily I'm likely dying tonight anyway.

[Creature]

Bye my lurkerscum

VOTE: BuJaber

[Creature]

I keep losing interest in this game.

Why do you even play mafia?

because usually games are interesting. Just this game is pretty shit.

[Creature]

VOTE: profii

[Creature]

Whatever, I'm done adventuring

Let's just get on profii who didn't do shit since we stopped the pressure on him.

[Creature]

VOTE: Bujaber for your consideration.

Bye my lurkerscum

VOTE: BuJaber

VOTE: BuJaber

How am I scum?

This is the 6th wagon this day from 3 people who voted 3 different people.

I'm starting to think the not quickhammering backfired on town.

Everyone is being a lethargic fuck.

Bus profii then

[Creature]

VOTE: BuJaber

Are you also that willing to vote profii?

[Creature]

Also don't be afraid to hammer.

[Creature]

He was pretty much antispew anyway

[Creature]

I suppose that's a scumclaim?

[Creature]

It really sucks when players sign up for games they're not going to play at all. Large normal for some reason is the favorite type of game for these players.

[Creature]

Yeah yeah, if half the players aren't playing, most likely the other half won't play either.

[Creature]

Can we just concede?

[Creature]

It's gonna reach the point we're going to blame each other while not playing ourselves.

[Creature]

I think we just lynch Lycan tomorrow.

[Creature]

This game reminds me of a game I played offsite where everybody was inactive but me so I had to lead the lynches and then at the end I got blamed and all stuff (they said I had bad reads when everybody else didn't have any so can't discuss with their shitty philosophy).

[Creature]

I just want this game to not be a complete stomp

[Creature]

also I don't want scum that didn't do shit all game surviving to endgame.

[Creature]

You can use my word to lynch Lycan.

[Creature]

Nah I don't want to massclaim with that many scum left.

VOTE: RCEnigma

[Creature]

What? Didn't Vedith flip a jailer already??

Also interesting than the thread has been open for more than 3 hours now and nobody posted!!

Do we even have an investigator or did the mods rely on JKs to produce soft guilties all game?

I'll give it another thought when I wake up.

Bad post tbh.

[Creature]

Meh. It doesn’t mean that much since I’m out of shots anyway.

I’m N2/3 GS. Checked Stan1ey, obviously he died so I felt stupid. Then checked Creature, no gun. So Creature is about 80% clear.

Woah, nice targets.

[Creature]

Still am refusing to claim.

[Creature]

Not buying any of these claims

[Creature]

Jibril (9):

Emperor flippyNips

, RCEnigma,

Sashaddin, Creature, profii, BuJaber, rosterfoster

, 0verki11,

stan1ey

Emperor flippyNips (8):

Nero Cain, Creature

, Eyes without a face, Succinct,

stan1ey, Sashaddin, profii

, Flapjack

profii (7):

Sashaddin

, 0verki11,

Creature

, insomnia,

rosterfoster

, Lycanfire, Enigma

Why are we assuming BuJaber town?

[Creature]

Yeah, Nero and I are masons.

[Creature]

Goodbye

[Creature]

Overkill is innocent btw.

[Creature]

UNVOTE:

[Creature]

Well, that was very amusing, but time to get back on track.

[Creature]

RCEnigma town now

[Creature]

rosterfoster also town
Nero Cain also town

[Creature]

I don't trust BuJaber's claim

[Creature]

VOTE: imsonia

[Creature]

I can see Succinct being scum too.

[Creature]

Creature shouldn't be the one leading wagons.

No one else is leading wagons anyway, except Nero who tried RCEnigma.

[Creature]

VOTE: RCE

If he ends up in a LyLo, he’s the easiest target by far. Just vote him and call it a day, I’m not voting RCE if town doesn’t express their opinion at all, deal’s off, guts against solid info.

VOTE: Sasha

VOTE: RCE

Yaaaa

VOTE: Profii

Yeeeeet

VOTE: Succint

I'll let this here and wait for reactions. In the meantime, people that got triggered by this vote might as well explain why they town read succint.

After nero said my case on RCE was trash, I scrolled through and Succint parked his vote on profii and then didn't do shit.

VOTE: RCEnigma

LYNCH MINUS ONE, PROCEED WITH CAUTION!

You're free to sheep this, at your own risk.

[Creature]

and the RCE wagon keeps getting derailed b/c his buddies won't hammer him.

Duh, didn't we think he was hammered?

[Creature]

Whatever

VOTE: Eyes

[Creature]

You aren't getting any credit, trust me. If anything, you're losing it. You've only mislynched townies up until this point. Wanna continue your streak? Vote me.

I think you've been wrong a lot of times too.

[Creature]

Stop discrediting people, just do your thing.

[Creature]

No caution just Lynch me. I've been waiting 3 days for it.

bye, Felica.

VOTE: RCE

Well it's a townflip so. Goodluck I guess.

[Creature]

I can do Enigma too. If there's one scum that would decide to not kill me, he's the one that I most picture.

[Creature]

RCEnigma isn't hammered.

[Creature]

tbh I want to speedlynch someone because we not having any flipped scum so far is irritating me.

[Creature]

You now believe RCE to be town

Yes

and you scum read me because I didn't contribute to his wagon

No

which would have probably lead to his lynch and the day ending already?

I'm now glad we didn't lynch RCE and you're putting words into my mouth saying this is the reason for me to vote you

Do you realize if we mislynch today it'd be LyLo tomorrow?

Yes, are you trying to convince me to not vote you bringing this argument?

Do you want to go into LyLo with no idea what happened the previous day?

RCE happened. Now I'm pretty confident roster is town atleast and I don't think RCE would fake that post I quoted

Who voted the lynchee for what exact reason??

I don't understand your question

Also we still have PRs.

So? They're outed

Shouldn't they get enough time to think their night moves?

They won't know where to go if we go stagnant

[Creature]

in that game Radiant mislynched you to get the win

Nah, I was scum with RC and we mislynched mcqueen. I didn't bother reading you because you're like hard to read and not worth engaging with as scum.

[Creature]

yeah, its been though to get everyone on the same page and there's been a good amount of ML bait this game.

Yet I get blamed for getting rid of three of them being intentionally ML bait...

[Creature]

he's flip flopping on everyone

So is like everybody, because half the players are like trying to get themselves lynched.

[Creature]

Are you tossing coins or rolling dice to decide on your votes??

Nah, just avoiding voting Nero, roster, Over and RCE (and BuJ mechanically) for now, so that thins things up a little.

[Creature]

I still don't have enough to exclude you or imsonia from the pool, but I'm going with whoever I think is most likely scum.

[Creature]

Still, if you keep discrediting me like imsonia has been doing, then it just makes me want to lynch you the same way I lynched Jibril, Flippy (and arguably profii): no regrets.

[Creature]

even if I didn't play this game, most likely town wouldn't have any stance and likely would've nolynched plenty of times.

[Creature]

Let me see: you'll keep insisting on RCE.

[Creature]

Something we can agree on.
People I won't vote.

Eyes, Jibril, Nero, Lycan.

I can compromise else where as no lynch is tragic.

[Creature]

actually forget my townread on rosterfoster

[Creature]

Succinct ISO looks bad.

[Creature]

(I'm giving you options, Eyes)

[Creature]

Ignore them Eyes.
I think there's 2 Scum on that wagon.

[Creature]

Somehow liked roster's reaction to the false hammer, but damn, a gunsmith doesn't seem to be compatible with the info we have so far.

[Creature]

You are the best thing to happen to a scum team since day talk.

@Creature

Apparently that's the only thing you can do?

[Creature]

but all the town I voted were ML bait. Its THIER fault!

~Creature 2019

Tell me you wouldn't be mislynching Jibril rn.

[Creature]

(actually I admit I was pretty much lazy D1 and Jibril was more of a lazy lynch than anything else)

[Creature]

Whatever, ignore me then

[Creature]

I declare Nero Cain today's leader

[Creature]

you're also allowed to lynch RCE if you want

[Creature]

(tbh the main reason I opposed RCE most of the previous days was because I'd feel bad if he flipped town, specially considering he has been doing stuff)

[Creature]

Can we just RVS like it's a new game?

[Creature]

Meh, we still have about two hard lurkers.

[Creature]

oh noes scum can't do stuff!

Wrong, it sucks losing scum that didn't do stuff.

[Creature]

Meh, gonna buy BuJ's claim because what else do we have?

[Creature]

^^
ayone still on creature is highly suspect and since lycan is now potentially ignoring my questions (ill give benefit of the doubt if he answers soon) my town read on him is tanking hard

[Creature]

What's the case on creature?

His early Sashaddin vote was shit

i actually liked that post but then again i had the benefit of reading the thread up to your PC comment, which mades me think you weren't beginning sincere to begin with. what exactly is wrong with sashaddin advancing the game?

why would you make 51 unless you were looking for a post EXACTLY like the one sashaddin replied with?

the answer seems pretty clear to me: that's the bait and switch, like the magic eye of baits and switches that becomes apparent when the gimmick is recognized. you're actually being sincere when you make 51... because you're out to vote anybody that looks like they can be voted as a result of it.

I almost always pick scum immediately out of RVS. Newbie 1717, Newbie 1791, Kidney Mafia, Newbie 1824, Perpetual Mylo III, Mini Normal 1982, Micro 798, Team Mafia. That's just under half my town games. One town game featured Mastina who is totally not in this game derp hammering Alisae by like the end of page 2. Four games were ones I replaced into. 8/12 games relevant games (considering that survivor game to be town bc town would have lost if not for me). If scum are present to scum it up, I find it every time.

He slips away from wagons

I pushed {creature, vedith} yesterday but vedith was the wagon that won out, despite my vote being on creature and asking people about creature.

He reaches his first peak on page 7. Cue two pages of talking about Creature, and profii posts this:

Creature spamming one liners is a town tell if he maintains it I guess

Vedith being more important than Creature, page 13 he hits his peak votes

I don't understand this Jbril wagon. But Bujaber, Flippynips, and Creature are town. I'm getting real bad feels from both eyes and Vedith. For eyes, 176 feels wrong to me. 255 from Flippynipps is accuracte I think - that was such a forced interaction. And Vedith has just been trolling, but it's not in a way which actually gets reactions, which I think is what Vedith would be trying to do as town.

VOTE: Vedith

100% agree

Three pages later, Eyes gets 6 votes in a row. Four of those voters were Vedith voters.

Where's Creature? Back on Jibril with you and your bunk mates (BuJaber, Emp). There's a pattern here too.

Creature poking outside of his counterwagon is +town. Not wanting to Lynch his counterwagon is +town. Him voting flippy is +town regardless of flippys alignment. Creatures alignment also isn't tied to the amount of attention he pays to the game so I don't think him not realizing the votecount in regards to flippy is something I would read either way. However it's more likely he does that as town than informed scum to be cheeky.

Fypov, if town, Creature not voting you is WORSE. If it's you or him that's just another straw on the pile I can add. He's seeing it coming. I already posted my readslist mid day. Here's his ft. scum!you. So why NOT you? Is "RCEnigma town"? Let's check. No not really, but it sure would suck if people did lynch you. Oh, please don't do that! So he votes profii, another unspirited push, which doesn't last because reasons, and sits back on Emp.

All aboard the magic Creature bus



Creature at 3 votes? 2 pages of silence. I vote Creature? Looks like shit's about to get FUCKY.

Spoiler: data

Page 44

Nero Cain votes Emperor flippyNips (Creature, Nero Cain)
Sashaddin votes Creature (Amor, Enigma, Sashaddin)

Page 45

No votes on 45

Page 46

No votes on 46

Page 47

Lycanfire votes Creature (Amor, Enigma, Sashaddin, Lycanfire)
Nero Cain votes RCEnigma (0verki11, BuJaber, Stan1ey, Nero Cain)

Page 48

Profii votes Creature (Enigma, Lycanfire, profii)
Succinct votes profii (Succinct)
Creature votes profii (Succinct, Creature)

Page 49

RCEnigma votes profii (Succinct, Creature, RCEnigma)
Eyes without a face unvotes
Eyes without a face votes profii (Succinct, Creature, RCEnigma, Eyes without a face)
Eyes without a face unvotes

Page 50

RCEnigma votes RCEnigma (0verki11, BuJaber, Stan1ey, Nero Cain, RCEnigma)
Creature votes Emperor flippyNips (Creature)

Page 51

Creature votes Amor (Creature)
Nero Cain votes Emperor flippyNips (Nero Cain)
Creature votes Emperor flippyNips (Nero Cain, Creature)

Page 52

Succinct votes Emperor flippyNips (Nero Cain, Creature, Succinct)

Page 53

Stan1ey votes Emperor flippyNips (Nero Cain, Creature, Succinct, Stan1ey)

He's a flux voter

I gave my reads in the middle of the day and didn't want to talk much about it because I was hoping for some sort of response regarding Roster. Enigma gave me enough to be satisfied to post my flux voter theory which I had been thinking about since SOD. You took the same reasoning but ran backwards with the completely opposite conclusion in 821. For whatever reason you're unable to develop good reads despite repeated prompting. If you have all the information I do then why can't you see scum!Creature?

Creature doesn't care about this game

This is more supplementary evidence, but Creature is trying to activate his trust tell or whatever the fuck people are townreading him for. Nothing of what he's saying matters. Also, he's more active than this as town, and frequently chooses to pass over this thread in favor of other games. I don't believe this speaks to his alignment in those other games, but it speaks to his alignment here, because he doesn't want to play because it will jeopardize his trust tell. When he posts here is an avalanche of opinions on XXX 1000th outdated post that he never brings up again and shows no attachment to.

This entire point is garbage that only reinforces his tell, by the way, because in the future he can make his tell look more subjective and avoid his inevitable ban by arguing he posts a lot, even if it's obvious to literate people that everything he says is firey crap. The mods won't care and in the words of Not_Mafia

[Creature]

Meh, Lycan probtown till I find a scumgame of his that resembles that.

[Creature]

(you can put me on ignore, just doing these to claim postgame cred)

[Creature]

I can't stop not townreading Lycanfire even after rereading his iso for the 345435th time.

[Creature]

Yeah, great chance Amor is just like that every alignment, so not worth reading Amor off that.

[Creature]

Should I hammer RCE?

[Creature]

Creature, who should I vote?

Ask Nero, he's the leader

[Creature]

Nobody will be a cop, a psychologist, a ninja

My problem with the investigative claims...

[Creature]

RCE + Enigma + Succinct

(if RCE flips town, don't ask for my help)

[Creature]

Enigma + Succinct

obviously, I'm wishing this a lot, they're the two hard lurkers left.

[Creature]

insomnia is also scum btw and I'd accept that vote.

@insomnia

it's not me now

gl

[Creature]

VOTE: Insomnia

???

[Creature]

Whatever

VOTE: RCEnigma

[Creature]

probably my plan rn:
1. sheep nero on rce
2. hope he's right
3. don't die tonight
4. trust someone (nero or someone else) on someone else
5. repeat 2-4

[Creature]

Not sure what to talk about RCE without influencing opinions. Nero should have the say.

[Creature]

or do someone personally doesn't trust Nero here?

[Creature]

I think RCE gotta be sorted.

Enigma feels like the safest lynch.

[Creature]

Weren't you just saying that Enigma is probably town because all the lurkers are town?

Huh what?

[Creature]

Wanna just artificially raise your postcount in this game?

[Creature]

Duh, I'm enjoying it while I try to flip face four times in a row.

[Creature]

hopefully scum still think I'm better left alive.

[Creature]

RCE + Enigma + Succinct

gotta find the last one, which is tricky:

BuJaber - Nah
Nero Cain - Nah
Eyes without a face - Hmm
0verki11 - Nah
rosterfoster - Seemed genuine, but whatev
insomnia - Probtown now
Lycanfire - Probtown too

[Creature]

What a pleasant game

[Creature]

Hi scum reading/imsonia/Flapjack/altslipping squad

How's it going?

[Creature]

Creature: I’ll assume that you’re the other mason. I take it there’s no other partner.

Overkill is also mason

[Creature]

I gotta find one other leader

[Creature]

I think Succinct is the town from the PoE but still am not inclined to trust BuJ

[Creature]

lmao, was pretty sure my mason claim with Nero was obviously fake, but whatever.

[Creature]

Nice scum theater.

[Creature]

imsonia is pretty much scum

[Creature]

This may be my last day so I want to have some fun.

[Creature]

Scumteam is Enigma/Lycan/insomnia/Eyes

You have two days to convince me otherwise

[Creature]

If not, I'm considering lynching Eyes first.

[Creature]

Guess we're going for the easy scum lynch anyway

but at the same time I feel tempted for one slightly harder scum lynch (like Eyes)

[Creature]

So can I suppose I am completely right about the scumteam?

[Creature]

Finding it quite hard to be Succinct, so you'll have to find scum among roster/BuJ.

[Creature]

You're allowed to use mod/setup spec in your journey.

[Creature]

gg Over/Enigma/Lycan/me were scum. Mod said the game would end if town voted another town.

[Creature]

But I still don't know why we're town reading succint?

He just finished a good scumgame

I don't think he would be a sucker here

[Creature]

I suppose you were the mason, am I correct?

[Creature]

Did you hint anywhere you were a PR/gunsmith?

[Creature]

I'm playing with you if that's the answer you need.

[Creature]

I think you are the sacrificial pawn though.

[Creature]

Can we get prods?

Jump straight to replacements.

[Creature]

prodding 0verki11 & succinct

Cool

Now we wait 24 hours for their replacement

[Creature]

Hard not to prodge when I'm waiting on Creature for which scum to lynch.

Find one yourself. Push them. Don't wait me do everything.

[Creature]

I see there has been no quickhammer so far?

[Creature]

Don't sign up for games you won't play.

[Creature]

Well atleast Nero got his lynch

[Creature]

Don't sign up for games you won't play.

Me?

Not you.

[Creature]

I should probably start making more use of WotC on flakers.

[Creature]

I can't play games where 20-25% or more players are inactive.

[Creature]

The setup was fine and it was somewhat obvious BuJ's role being town didn't make sense.

[Creature]

Enigma was scummy but thought about doing Eyes first

[Creature]

profii and RCE lynches were preventable