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[Elsa Jay]

I didn't think about that, I didn't want my target to die. Wake is still alive and should probably still be on you so I can target you tonight

Me dying isn't the worst outcome to prove yourself, but honestly I just want to hear from LUV first. We're nearly there. If he checked Frank or Dolly the game is nearly solved.

[Elsa Jay]

Oh yeah Pisskop too I guess. One of Dolly Frank or Pisskop since they're our default "VTs".

[Elsa Jay]

Still waiting for LUV to speak. Only after then.

[Elsa Jay]

Well damn. No wonder he claimed it early.

For those of you curious and all super ready to lynch whoever I jailed....

I jailed EspressoJet, funnily enough, and blocked Dunn's thing again.

Oh yeah, LUV please confirm Dunn sent you a message.

[Elsa Jay]

Goodie.

Now, LUV, why would the scum team attack Jet instead of you, me, or Wake? Because if we trust you, we know he's a Vanilla Townie.

[Elsa Jay]

I jailed EspressoJet,

ok but LUV says he's vt. So where does that leave us?

I was literally explaining that just now, yeah.

Do we lynch luv?

Lynching LUV only confirms Jet RN. Not the answer.

Lemme write out my plan separately real quick.

[Elsa Jay]

Okay, Dunn, LUV confirmed you so I trust you. So, I'll be good and list out the actions I want us to take.

First:

VOTE: Pisskop

Lynch that enigma and solve a piece of the puzzle. Second:

LUV, investigate Dolly Tonight, no other option allowed.

Only her and Frank ate available so you can do both, but I just want us to be absolutely in sync.
Third:

I jail Dunn to keep our FN safe and Wake watches me again.

Scum will have to make a choice to kill Wake or LUV in this situation, and Nero supposedly takes their spot regardless.
Fourth:

If Dolly is innocent, we lynch Rabid.

Frank is less likely scum imo then Rabid, plus scum neighbor would be safe from a Neo anyway. So yeah, Frank is the least likely scum. Obviously lynch Dolly if she isn't a VT though.

If the game isn't over by then we rethink the strategy depending on who scum killed, but obviously if the Neo is alive the next night they check Frank. So if Nero is legit and mafia killed LUV, then Wake switches too watching him.

I can keep going over all the scenarios but you get the idea.

[Elsa Jay]

Well you either blocked the person performing the kill, blocked the kill being performed on espresso, or mafia didn't kill

If they were targetting Espresso with the kill... how were they planning on winning?

Killing the one clear so far? I dunno. Maybe just push me randomly for a lynch on a PR. Or on Wake or you.

[Elsa Jay]

Because this game has devolved to having the PRs solve the game from the remaining rabble, Kop. And your in that rabble in a slot that's the easiest to just ignore and kill of while we have room for error, sadly.

[Elsa Jay]

Don't let that stop you from reading the giving out a readlist before you die though, between Frank and Rabid, preferably.

[Elsa Jay]

UNVOTE:

Well I voted for the effect and to have it stand out in my planlist, but we got time.

Why is Frank scum? We can literally just swap you 2 so you live instead of him.

[Elsa Jay]

Read up a bit then, Wake. Already did.

Read my plan while your at it too.

[Elsa Jay]

... Um.

What?

[Elsa Jay]

Jet, duh, but... Explain how and why he's the lynch?

[Elsa Jay]

... Um.

What?

DID YOU TARGET EJ OR SOMEONE ELSA FOR THE BLOCK?

And I'm usually called EJ by my pals as well, so it's weird to see you call him that.

[Elsa Jay]

Because you JK/Alien'd him and there was no NK.

Okay. That would normally be the case, but remember with LUV around he's a confirmed VT if we believe him.

Unless both him and LUV are scum in this ultimate gambit we'd probably lynch LUV first always in that situation.

[Elsa Jay]

Take your time, get some sleep maybe and do the heavier thinking in the morning.

Anyone elsa can contribute to tue conversation though. Elsa is signing off for tonight.

[Elsa Jay]

Maybe they're noob scum then? I don't freaking know.

Nero did try and lynch me immediately today. So I guess we follow the fact he did indeed fuck up instead of ignoring that any longer.

Pedit: which may have been their only option since everyone was doubting I was a town alien already, so lynching me would've given them a chance along with then killing the watcher and hoping Nero's claim worked.

New plan. LUV, check Frank instead of Dolly and Wake you watch LUV so he doesn't get killed. And Dunn, since you got nothing better to do target Wake or me while I jail one of the other guys.

[Elsa Jay]

If Dunnstral is literally a Friendly Neighbor shouldn't I be watching him? Assuming he's legit he's sending Conftown information to people.

No Wake, watching LUV does make your death likely but confirming who killed LUV or having LUV confirm another VT is a 1 for 1 trade we can make.

Please listen to me on this and watch out for him.

[Elsa Jay]

I had intentionally fake claimed a role that I couldn't possibly be and your reaction was
so it just kinda looks like you were avoiding my wagon. I.e. scum that knew I was town.

... Since LUV did check you and you ain't a VT, what are you really then?

[Elsa Jay]

watcher enabler

I would've believed this way more then a universal backup, the fuck?

[Elsa Jay]

It makes way more sense with a non-nerfed Watcher in the game, jeez. Also a false negative again for the Neo to find.

[Elsa Jay]

She means the "results"of your experiment and your new reads.

[Elsa Jay]

Can we just lynch jet or pisskop then

Why do you still want to lynch the confirmed VT? Jesus.

[Elsa Jay]

Because fuck us they give up or something.

[Elsa Jay]

Is still rather get rid of Pisskop today so LUV can check Frank without the unnecessary risk of losing our watcher now.

If we lynch Pisskop we go into tommorow with half of us cleared basically with only the scraps remaining.

Just sort out the VTs now and then we decide if Nero is lying. Simple.

Let Wake watch LUV tonight and we're basically confirm like 5 townies tommorow to solve the game. Killing Nero is a stupid risk even if he's scum Watcher Enabler because then LUV can never out his results because he'll be killed.

[Elsa Jay]

Great, now we finally have a decent plan.

Any other objections? LUV, do you agree to check Frank tonight?

[Elsa Jay]

I'm honestly praying Frank is the legit VT so I have a chance of jailing scum tonight. Remember to check him LUV.

No point otherwise, but let's review.

Elsa - confirmed Alien, from stopping Dunn twice over. Is town.
Dunn - Friendly Neighbor. Confirmed by LUV. Will target me tonight probably.
Wake - Watcher. Caught Zote commiting the kill. Confirmed with Nero's role.
Nero - Watcher Enabler. Confirmed not VT.
LUV - Novice Neo with a inno result on Jet
Jet - confirmed VT
Rabid - Neighbor of Maria.

Last VT claims - Dolly, Frank, and Pisskop. 1 getting lynched today.

Nearly solved as long as we trust me, Wake, Dunn, LUV, and Jet. That's half of us confirmed even ignoring Nero.

So half are never lynched and we win otherwise.

[Elsa Jay]

If your gonna hammer yourself get it over with.

[Elsa Jay]

You still haven't convinced us of a good reason to keep you over Frank or even Dolly. You seem like you've already given up.

[Elsa Jay]

I came into this day with gamma slot as my preferred lynch. I'm not against lynching there. But after Nero's claim(s) I don't see why more people aren't voting him.

Because Why risk losing our Watcher tonight when we can just solve the game by tommorow.

VOTE: Pisskop because he's giving up anyway.

LUV check Frank, Dunn on me or Wake, Wake on LUV, me I'm doing what's nessecary and will try and stop the kill again.

Also Frank it's reasonable deduction at the time that we found all the Power roles, for town atleast, that exist. So we already know what Piss could be.

Have a good night phase guys, and follow my instruction.

Dolly, I pray Frank isn't a VT because that means I'll have to reread you again.

[Elsa Jay]

Wake please for the love of god stick on the investigative that can still get an actual guilty.

Don't go rogue.

[Elsa Jay]

in my pt they were telling me how i was gonna die anyways, so i didnt see the point in trying.

We gotten bois.

[Elsa Jay]

Can you atleast explain why they tried to kill Jet instead of Wake?

[Elsa Jay]

I got your message, Dunn. I'd post it for the world to see but I'll do that endgame.

Also I Alien'd Rabid last night, but there was a kill. So...

Dunn is Friendly Neighbor
I'm Indesicive Alien
LUV is novice Neopolitan
Jet is confirmed VT from LUV
Rabid did not commit the kill last night.

So if LUV can give his result, we know Frank is the last scum or the Vanilla Townie, leaving us with only Dolly and Nero.

Should Frank be a VT we lynch Nero and then the game is over at that point.

[Elsa Jay]

Frank if your scum can you vote yourself already since this would be checkmate? But if town continue doing you.

[Elsa Jay]

hopefully that doesn't even need to hold any weight but I got a funny feeling LUV didn't check me last night

And why wouldn't he?

[Elsa Jay]

Okay I really want you to explain that. Because if we're both town we can't lose now with all the results we got.

[Elsa Jay]

Your forgetting I jailed Rabid last night and not only was there no kill, I can't target the same guy twice.

[Elsa Jay]

*there was a kill.

[Elsa Jay]

Yeah, but don't take that as a meta tell for future games. I'm doing it out of pity.

[Elsa Jay]

Again, there could be 3 scum remaining/Luv could be lying

3 scum remaining with 2 dead in a 15p?

[Elsa Jay]

Bro we literally just have to wait for LUV to go "Frank is town" or "Frank is scum". Let's do that first.

[Elsa Jay]

The first time was me mistaking you for Rabid, the rest is process of elimination.

[Elsa Jay]

Well yeah, actually, that was my entire plan.

[Elsa Jay]

Okay. Here's my plan.

We lynch Nero today since he's a mystery slot. Should the game continue, this is what I want to happen:

First, LUV finally checks Dolly Tonight, while I jail one of Dunn, Jet, and Frank so they don't get shot. This should end in my demise if they want to still win.

That'll leave tommorow, if LUV confirms Dolly as a VT, with the immediate option to lynch Rabid. Or Dolly if proven wrong.

If scum kill LUV, then well, we got Jet and Frank confirmed along with Dunn, leaving me Dolly and Rabid. I assume we win then as well.

Pedit: Dunn, the correct play is to lynch Nero since Rabid didn't commit the kill last night. Worst case scenario Rabid is Strongman but I very much doubt Neighbor Strongman, so it's Nero or Dolly.

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: Nero

He didn't show up as VT anyway and the claim was weird from the first fake claim.

But yeah, Scum kill me tonight, then I trust you to follow my intent tommorow Dunn and lead town.

Because LUV still has the hypothetical way of being scum, we just make him self resolve tommorow by lynching him after he confirms Dolly. Then it can only be Rabid as a Strongman who commited the kill since everyone elsa is confirmed a VT or a Friendly Neighbor regardless of who he shoots in a 3v1 scenario.

Either way after the game ends with the VTs saving the day.

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: Nero

He didn't show up as VT anyway and the claim was weird from the first fake claim.

But yeah, Scum kill me tonight, then I trust you to follow my intent tommorow Dunn and lead town.

Because LUV still has the hypothetical way of being scum, we just make him self resolve tommorow by lynching him after he confirms Dolly. Then it can only be Rabid as a Strongman who commited the kill since everyone elsa is confirmed a VT or a Friendly Neighbor regardless of who he shoots in a 3v1 scenario.

Either way after the game ends with the VTs saving the day.

Page top to make it easier to not miss.

And make sure to ask for a fast night if possible, so we don't have to waste our time if this doesn't end the game.

[Elsa Jay]

Jet You agree with that plan right? Follow it well.

[Elsa Jay]

aw man, i wanted to say words before i got lynched but oh well

That doesn't sound like a townie death call.

[Elsa Jay]

Targetted mister wake to save his ass, but he didn't even use it.

I suspected you for this when I saw it, not your targeting but that you were claiming it to be on Wake's slot when he forgot to use his ability, turns out you were lying and targeted Pisskop's slot instead

Yeah I didnt want scum to go "oh wait Gamma was Aliened last night so let him commit the kill!" Just in case he was scum. And whaduya know? He was scum.

[Elsa Jay]

Also scum could have killed the key PRs or WIFOMedd Elsa into roleblocking the investigative PRs.

u sure are trying to defend this setup.

If you killed someone more important then Flavor n2 you could've had a shot. Or if you killed me or Wake.

Not killing Wake or LUV after either claimed so early was your mistake.

[Elsa Jay]

Wait a second neither of You even used your factional kill on n3? Holy crap...

Did even really use the tracker either.

[Elsa Jay]

Glad I stuck to lynching Pisskop first and not Nero, since hum dying would've given piss free rein to kill LUV and not be able to clear Frank, Dolly, and probably even Rabid.

[Elsa Jay]

If it was me I would've taken the 1v1 against you. Ah well.

[Elsa Jay]

I felt kinda proud at the end even accounting for a Rabid Strongman. Not nessecary as all but I liked it.

[Elsa Jay]

Like I said earlier, they're a nerf since they can't be cleared by the Neo. Which is why I still thought Rabid could've been scum with a basically Godfather pass to the Neo.

[Elsa Jay]

It was only an advantage after they didn't listen to me when I said I wae indesicive. Granted, I lied about n1 but still, didn't even touch him n2 so he could actually do his job.