Mafia 82: International (Game Over)
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Okay, sorry, but that took forever.
Regarding the Hascow vs Cream issue, I see nothing wrong with Has's fos. In fact, I find Cream rather suspicious myself.
On the topic of Netlava, I see him as somewhat scummy, but he could just be an overeager townie. I'll need to see a bit more action to be sure.
Otherwise, Skruff's post directly before mine seems a bit suspicious to me. Stepping into WIFOM territory to defend someone that's only slightly under fire tends to catch my eye.Game Record (W-L-T)
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I'm going to go ahead andvote: Netlava, for the same reason as everyone else: voting someone that he had a town read on, and totally ignoring the accusations the next day. I'll also put out anfos: Skruffsfor responding to my WIFOM accusation with more WIFOM.Game Record (W-L-T)
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@Skruffs: That is not the defintion of WIFOM. You just described a leading question. WIFOM is generally an "if I were scum" or "why would scum" type of statement. Search the wiki and you'll see what I mean. Also, I don't think your long-winded analogy has much to do with any of this.
In related news, it may be obvious, but I'm thinking of a Skruffs-Netlava connection. I think Netlava might be our lynch today, but if either of them flips scum, the other will be my first vote the next day.Game Record (W-L-T)
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Not particularly, it's just that just a lot of people suspect him and he hasn't offered much defense. Besides, saying "Korts wrote:
We're not exactly five pages into Day 2. I really don't like the way you're so confident in Netlava winding up as our lynch. Are you in a hurry?BlakAdder wrote:@Skruffs: That is not the defintion of WIFOM. You just described a leading question. WIFOM is generally an "if I were scum" or "why would scum" type of statement. Search the wiki and you'll see what I mean. Also, I don't think your long-winded analogy has much to do with any of this.
In related news, it may be obvious, but I'm thinking of a Skruffs-Netlava connection. I think Netlava might be our lynch today, but if either of them flips scum, the other will be my first vote the next day.I thinkNetlavamightbe our lynch" doesn't sound that confident to me.-
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All right, I'm still here. Just to show that I'm reading, I don't really like the Raider wagon. It boils down to BM and Raider bickering because Raider changed his mind. I'm still for the Netlava wagon.
Just so I don't have to lurk any more, does anyone have any questions for me, or want to know my stance on anything?Game Record (W-L-T)
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@BM: Reading what the others have said kind of cleared up what I was confused about. Your case didn't look like it was made up of actual scumtells, and that's what confused me. Also, what do you mean by "something doesn't have to be a scumtell to make a case?"Game Record (W-L-T)
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Armlx's idea sounds reasonable, especially with the method of death. Poisoning is most likely Mafia, and dismembering is definitely SK. Drowning might be Mafia too, but I don't know. Is it possible that there are poisoners in the Mafia? I've seen roles before with names like that who have a NK, but it takes place the next night.Game Record (W-L-T)
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2 Mafia groups by themselves is a possibilty, as it would explain the flavor from Day 2, and the deaths tonight,ifthere are Poisoners in the Mafia. However, I can't shake the idea that there is a SK, just because of the MO's, dismemberment in particular.Game Record (W-L-T)
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Eh, it's just that I've seen this role before, and the fact that two people were poisoned might be a hint at this. Of course, I don't want to dwell on this too long.armlx wrote:
Sounds broken.@Armlx: I think I mentioned it up there. A Poisoner is scum with a separate NK that takes place the next night.-
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QFT. I'll keep it as anhasdgfas wrote:
This wagon is moving a bit fast for me to jump on right now, but I'm strongly considering it if SC doesn't get any better.Battle Mage wrote:
You should vote him.hasdgfas wrote:heh, although Skruffs' question to SC about whether or not he was a survivor was a terrible question, it's gotten some very, very interesting responses from SC. I don't like the dancing around the question he's doing. It's like he's some sort of neutral who wants to claim survivor after the town says there's a reason not to lynch claimed survivors.fos: StrangerCougfor now, but I've still got my eye on him.-
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Then specify that you are voting them for the scummy thing, not because they are being a hypocrite.StrangerCoug wrote:
I thought I made it obvious. If you are accusing somebody of doing something scummy, then doing that same thing yourself is scummy.BlakAdder wrote:@StrangerCoug: How does hypocrisy apply to scum?-
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I think you have the wrong idea of what a Death Miller is. What is your understanding of the role?EGL wrote:
Does that strike anyone else as odd? One mafia has a tracker AND a watcher? Another has a doc AND a roleblocker (okay that one isn't quite as odd but still).skitzer wrote:
Have So Many Holes, They Appear to Be Swiss Cheese (12):
8. DynamoXI,[/color]Swiss Townie, Lynched Day 1
5. Erratus Apathos,Swiss Roleblocker, Cremated and Drowned Night 1
17. Netlava,Swiss Townie, Lynched Day 2
12. Cephrir,Swiss Townie, Poisoned Night 2.
7. Knight of Cydonia,Swiss Townie, Drowned Night 2.
20. Korts,Icelandic Mafia Doctor, Poisoned Night 2.[/b]
19. Sineish,Portuguese Mafia Tracker, Dismembered Night 2.[/b],
21. StrangerCougSwiss Townie,Lynched Day 3.
6. armlx,Portuguese Mafia Watcher, Drowned Night 3.[/b]
16. Cream147,Swiss Townie, Dismembered Night 3.
24. hasdgfas,Swiss Townie, Poisoned Night 3.
4. SensFan,Icelandic Mafia Roleblocker, Cremated Night 3.[/b]
Current Game Stage:Day 4
Deadline:None
I smell death miller.Game Record (W-L-T)
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Semi-lurking like this is normal playstyle for me. I do it as both town and scum.Tom Mason wrote:
Yes to your second question.EGL wrote:Who had replaced Hascow? Or is that just what BlakAdder called hasdghfhs?
And on the subject of BlakAdder, his play looks to be mirroring what I saw from armlx. I just went and took a look at all the posts BA has made in this game. Short posts that do not offer much in the way of game discussion. His play just seems removed.
Add to it that "intended vote for tomorrow" and...
Well, I want to here some justification from BA about his actions first, but my vote leans towards him right now.
I said that I intended to vote CK tomorrow because it would be irrelevant at the time, as he had just dropped the hammer. However, after thinking over the Night phase, I decided against it. Quick hammers quite obviously appear to be Karne's thing, and I thought that it didn't seem like that big of a deal anyway.Game Record (W-L-T)
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I didn't really feel the need to comment on such a bad case, but hear you go.
Your case on me is nothing but misinterpreting my words. By saying that I intended to vote Karne the next day, I was in no way implying that I knew that I would live to the next day. And even so, that would be a stupid move by the scum as well, as we have now confirmed that there are multiple killing groups.Game Record (W-L-T)
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@EGL: I already said that I decided not to vote Karne because I thought about it over the night. The intend to vote thing was based off of gut and instinct.
@ Raider: My point is that not even scum would be able to guarantee that They would live through the night.Game Record (W-L-T)
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Did you just totally ignore what I said? I didn't vote him because I took the time to think about the situation rationally.EGL wrote:
So there's no real reason that you changed your mind.BlakAdder wrote:@EGL: I already said that I decided not to vote Karne because I thought about it over the night. The intend to vote thing was based off of gut and instinct.
@ Raider: My point is that not even scum would be able to guarantee that They would live through the night.Game Record (W-L-T)
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In answer to EGL's question (sorry it took me so long, meatworld issues):
Three things went through my mind:
1. I took his apparent love of his speedhammers (from looking at his avatar and sig) into account in my thoughts.
2. I thought that he could have just overlooked Raider's request to allow StrangerCoug to speak.
3. After taking this time to calm down a bit, I came to thinking that the hammer was not that big of a deal. In hindsight, StrangerCoug was pretty scummy, even if I didn't think so at the time.Game Record (W-L-T)
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Sorry, I did not breadcrumb. I usually don't.
I targeted Hascow the first night because he had not really done anything scummy and he had been fairly helpful in discussion. Cyberbob was my next runner up for the same reasons, and I did not want to target the same person two nights in a row.Game Record (W-L-T)
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I generally try to keep from picking the same person too much as doc. I want to keep myself fairly unpredictable.
Obviously, I wish I had picked Hascow last night, but other than that, I have no regrets.
Yes, I targeted the players who I thought were most pro-town. I figure it's the best idea when there are no proven power roles.
Also, that N1 and N2 up there should be N2 and N3. I got a bit confused because I replaced in on D2.Game Record (W-L-T)
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Mafia usually target the most pro-town players, so yes. Also, I can't remember off the top of my head Has or Cyber ever having a serious wagon on them.
I was never told who was protected N1, I'll PM the mod to see.
I don't think I saved anyone.Game Record (W-L-T)
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Town shouldtubby216 wrote:personally if i were a doc i would never claim it, i might claim watcher/tracker something anything but doc,,,
to me claiming doc=scum fishing for real doc but thats just meneververy rarely lie. Besides, if I claimed Tracker or Watcher, what would I do for my results? Just claim that I saw nothing every night?
@Caboose: I don't know about K7. That seems like normal play from him.Game Record (W-L-T)
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QFT. Deliberately ignoring questions and not explaining yourself are not pro-town.tubby216 wrote:
not helpfullspringlullaby wrote:The answer to all the questions ask to me is, I changed my mind. No you cannot know why.
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