Mafia 75: Return of the Mafia! TOWN WINS (really late)

[curiouskarmadog]

actually, the more I play with skitzer the more I am thinking he is just a poor player...however, I dont know if I am understanding or believing the whome wagon..can someone please explain to me why whome is the obvious lynch today over the likes of skitzer?

[curiouskarmadog]

farside, if I didnt know that you were the vig, I would think that bordered on a scummy statement...

so, what you are saying, is that you can not comment on Skitzer vs. Whome today (in reference to the a lynch) because because it would inform the scum tonight?

that doesnt make any sense to me...but according to BM I am dense..so I guess I will have to take your word on it.

[curiouskarmadog]

This isn't Korlash's play style, right? Because I've played with him in another game, and this was NOT how he played.

are you sure? have you metaed him or are you just spouting about the mouth?...you know, across the board, I am not impressed with your play.

for the record, I have seen korlash play this way as scum and town...actually as scum he pays more attention and is proactive...I am getting a town read of Korlash.

[curiouskarmadog]

how many games have you been in with him?

[curiouskarmadog]

well, I am trying to find out if you are an expert on Korlash, or if you just have played one game with him..

you are trying to sell us that Korlash's play is different..you must mean scummy different, because if you thought he had a power role surely you wouldnt have brought it up...so I am trying to figure out what is scummy about his play.

I see a korlash(bored)town play.

[curiouskarmadog]

OK posting this in all of my threads..

going to be gone (at the most very light posting) between 07/13 until 07/21 for a vacation.

[curiouskarmadog]

TSN kill?..interesting.

only one kill? farside did you submit one?

going to reread yesterday..but I still think that skitzer is the way to go.

[curiouskarmadog]

It's funny how you are still after skitzer despite my claims that he's innocent. I remember farside said that she had Celebloki in her sights. I'm not one for WIFOM, but maybe someone else is.

Vote Celebloki

the same way I did yesterday.

I dont know what "innocent" means coming from you. You have not claimed anything..matter of fact, I think you claimed that you were not a cop. and since you have brought us to WIFOM territory..scum has not seemed to have worried about you last night (unless farside vigged TSPN, and you were protected, but I am still waiting for farside to check in). If/when skitzer flips scum, I know where my next vote will be going.

[curiouskarmadog]

It's funny how you are still after skitzer despite my claims that he's innocent. I remember farside said that she had Celebloki in her sights. I'm not one for WIFOM, but maybe someone else is.

Vote Celebloki

the same way I did yesterday.

I dont know what "innocent" means coming from you. You have not claimed anything..matter of fact, I think you claimed that you were not a cop. and since you have brought us to WIFOM territory..scum has not seemed to have worried about you last night (unless farside vigged TSPN, and you were protected, but I am still waiting for farside to check in). If/when skitzer flips scum, I know where my next vote will be going.

I thought I dropped enough hints as to what I was, but maybe it wasn't obvious enough. The thing is, skitzer's not going to be lynched. I'll do my best to see to that. I'm 100% certain that he's protown.

well, ask BM, I am daft...I am not sure what you have soft claimed.

do you have any knowledge about Cele that we should know, or is your vote based on a hunch?

[curiouskarmadog]

It's funny how you are still after skitzer despite my claims that he's innocent. I remember farside said that she had Celebloki in her sights. I'm not one for WIFOM, but maybe someone else is.

Vote Celebloki

the same way I did yesterday.

I dont know what "innocent" means coming from you. You have not claimed anything..matter of fact, I think you claimed that you were not a cop. and since you have brought us to WIFOM territory..scum has not seemed to have worried about you last night (unless farside vigged TSPN, and you were protected, but I am still waiting for farside to check in). If/when skitzer flips scum, I know where my next vote will be going.

I thought I dropped enough hints as to what I was, but maybe it wasn't obvious enough. The thing is, skitzer's not going to be lynched. I'll do my best to see to that. I'm 100% certain that he's protown.

well, ask BM, I am daft...I am not sure what you have soft claimed.

do you have any knowledge about Cele that we should know, or is your vote based on a hunch?

I don't know if he's scum, but if you had read my analysis of Peers you'd know that it's more than a hunch. This is an interesting stance for you considering that yesterday you said you were fine with my soft claim.

I am/was fine with the claim, because I didnt want to bring attention to you yesterday..thought you would be killed..I am surprised that you are alive today (again, I didnt start to conversation into the WIFOM). But there was only one kill, so there is a good chance that you might have been targetted (still waiting for farside).

Not sure why you find the statement interesting...you are sure that skitzer is town, so there should be no issues.

My problem is, that Skitzer is just pinging my radar...for example..what was with his last post? Seems like a smoke screen...

Skitzer, is there any kind of analysis to go with that post, or are you wanting other people to do it, so you can agree with which sounds the best?

[curiouskarmadog]

TSN kill?..interesting.

only one kill? farside did you submit one?

going to reread yesterday..but I still think that skitzer is the way to go.

What's interesting about a TSN kill in your opinion?

just thought there were better targets for both mafia and farside...will explore this topic more once farside checks in and I reread.

[curiouskarmadog]

TSN kill?..interesting.

only one kill? farside did you submit one?

going to reread yesterday..but I still think that skitzer is the way to go.

What's interesting about a TSN kill in your opinion?

just thought there were better targets for both mafia and farside...will explore this topic more once farside checks in and I reread.

Why do you think that Farside would have taken a pop at Matt? 0.o

BM

I dont...if the mafia took a stab at Matt, then farside must have killed TSPN...I think there was probably scummy targets other than TSPN

[curiouskarmadog]

hey guys, i'm replacing someone i think. Better start reading....

Correct, I had just got an urgent PM from mith, telling me that he'd decided to force armlx to take a sabbatical from Mafia because his consistently high posting levels is starting to mess with the entire server. You are replacing armlx SA, enjoy!

Only kidding! SA is actually a BM alt, and the above was a pre-emptive April Fools joke because, let's face it, we'll all probably still be here next April Fools...

Carry on!

is this a joke?

[curiouskarmadog]

ah, forgot about the shotgun versus shot bit....well, like I said, it didnt make since that you would have vig tspn.

[curiouskarmadog]

ok so SA is a BM alt.

[curiouskarmadog]

well, i guess I cant go against logic.

vote celebloki

[curiouskarmadog]

I love the saying "to be honest"...were at one point you not being honest? I also hate votes that "were not supposed to count"....

[curiouskarmadog]

well, I dont think the vote should count..so if k7 is right, that would put cele at -1..care to claim?

[curiouskarmadog]

hope you brought mental lube, you are about reading to start thinking with a limp.

[curiouskarmadog]

tar, not sure what your case is against me? I thought the TSPN kill was strange..there was no point in it...Matt S had soft claimed an investigative role of sorts and he was not killed...you dont find that odd? I am pretty sure we have a doc floating around, so maybe they just wanted to avoid that, but it doesnt make sense to not try. The 3 people that TSPN have been hounding lately was KScope, TS, and skitzer...two of those three have been on my radar at one point or another...but no one is listening to me...MattS says that Cele is the lynch..so that is where I am going, I would perfer a skitzer lynch which I have stated numerous times now.

Tar, have you made a comment about Cele yet, or are you just going to ignore the issue at hand..deflection?..when/if cele flips scum, think I know where my vote will go next.

Happy Birthday CKD!

[curiouskarmadog]

Tar, have you made a comment about Cele yet, or are you just going to ignore the issue at hand..deflection?..when/if cele flips scum, think I know where my vote will go next.

The real question is, what have you said about Celebloki? All I see today is "well, i guess I cant go against logic," and then your vote. *sniff sniff* I smell a hypocrite.

I would rather lynch skitzer...I have said that close to a dozen times...how am I hypocrite? I am voting Cele based on your recommendation ("yeah, people are listening to me"). Tar on the other hand is completely avoiding mentioning Cele, who is the leading bandwagon and at -1...I would like to know, why?...which is why i asked and said if/when Cele flips scum, I know where my vote will go next.

[curiouskarmadog]

ahh, he did HoS Cele and ask for a claim....but many others have asked for the claim as well....perhaps I

am

OMGUSy...guess the two quick votes back to back for little reason pissed me off, when there is a lurker just waiting around...

speaking of which, his last post here was Jun 26 and it is almost August...

he probably should be replaced at this point.....or at least prodded again.

Mod please prod Cele again..

Cele, please claim.

[curiouskarmadog]

I think he is at -2...he was at -1 but armlx unvoted (so he is not quick lynched before his claim?)..he has been asked multiple times at -1 and -2 to claim.....Surye, when do you think he should claim?..or post for that matter?

[curiouskarmadog]

not really following the game? There was a count on the last page...what did you need to see before you thought he should claim?

[curiouskarmadog]

How about a game you HAVE read?

Why does it matter? And you of all people should have played enough with DGB to know this.

qft

[curiouskarmadog]

farside can do whatever she wants, but I strongly suggest that she not. but if she does and you see my alignment/role make Tar pay for it tomorrow.

[curiouskarmadog]

hmmm..

I guess I will reread..but I think my eyes will bleed, so I might keep it to yesterday and voting patterns...until i get something.

[curiouskarmadog]

wow, this game didnt get abandoned?

oh there is tar again, barking up the wrong tree, you going to jump off my wagon again when a bigger wagon comes along?

I think the TS wagon is a good one..

vote TS

, lets see if Tar doesnt join it.

however, I find it strange that BM is jumping on the TS wagon, when he pushed all day yesterday for armlx..BM, has your thoughts on armlx changed since yesterday (of course I think yesterday was 3 weeks ago).

making a note...

[curiouskarmadog]

I knew Tar would find a reason to once again jump on the major wagon..

unvote, vote tar.

[curiouskarmadog]

I knew Tar would find a reason to once again jump on the major wagon..

unvote, vote tar.

Considering your spontaneous, reasonless jump onto the Celebloki wagon yesterday, this is a dumb thing to say.

Vote CKD

interesting Matt, you press a case yesterday (all day) against Cele...you scream and beg for people to listen to you. You attack me for my skitzer vote, you soft claim something (I know I know, not cop)..and then I listen to you because I think you are on to something...and we lynch a townie.

I fucking notice you didnt attack my vote yesterday when I place it....also, I note you dont mention your particular record in voting out townies...care to compare?..or should I?

[curiouskarmadog]

I knew Tar would find a reason to once again jump on the major wagon..

unvote, vote tar.

CKD, I've seen your play enough that you *know* about some of my oddities/bad habits as town.

Care to point out the parts of my play that don't fit my town meta?

so you are playing toward your town meta? Are you saying if you are mafia, you wouldnt?

this was a silly post Tar.

[curiouskarmadog]

I think TS is scum.. happy with my vote.

[curiouskarmadog]

I thought my vote was on TS, you knew that

unvote, vote TS

[curiouskarmadog]

ok I really dont know why we are not lynching TS right now..

guess I am going to have to form that case (again) on a epic 150 pages scale...

I am not scum, Tar, again is focusing on me in yet another game that I am town...Tar you have the worst meta of me and I am not sure why you seem to be afraid of me in very game we play....or maybe you are afraid that I have a decent meta on you...

this being said, I really think TS needs to die.

[curiouskarmadog]

easy to say, harder to verbalise..please explain.

[curiouskarmadog]

what tar issue?...he thinks I am scum, he always thinks I am scum...I dont like how he seems to be jumping on whatever wagon is hot at the moment...notice how I call him out, he immeidately jumps off?

[curiouskarmadog]

but like I said, I am getting bigger scum vibes of TS...and when I get the time, I will put together a case.

[curiouskarmadog]

is this thing abandoned?

[curiouskarmadog]

jesus christ this fucking game...Gorrad are you trying to get mod powers..this game is hard enough to follow. not sure I understand what is going on with farside, if everything is on the up and up with farside, it is pretty obvious we have a mafia RB. going to reread yesterday....or until my eyes bleed.

[curiouskarmadog]

no, but one can still be paranoid. I agree that we probably have a mafia RB

[curiouskarmadog]

TS is obvscum..interesting how so many says so now but attacked me earlier.

vote TS

[curiouskarmadog]

if I recall, I was attacked when I wanted TS hung earlier...of course this was months (and pages ago)...but if my memory serves, I was all for a TS lynch. if i get the time, will go back (shivers) and see how exactly this went down...I know my biggest suspects pages/days/RL months ago was skitzer and TS...ugh, this game is such a blur...will go back and look.

[curiouskarmadog]

happy bday skitzer

[curiouskarmadog]

Tar, ugh, as much as I apprecaite your reversal on me...I have never been replaced in ANY of my games...a commitment is a commitment....

[curiouskarmadog]

Who do you think has been saving farside's tutu every night, geniuses???

bullshit, so you are saying we have yet another killing role?

[curiouskarmadog]

Who do you think has been saving farside's tutu every night, geniuses???

Yes, insult our intelligence for not being able to guess your role.

This does make things interesting though.

Unvote, Vote Killa Seven

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what do you think saving tutu means? Saving farside from what? kills?..kills from what? another killing role? what am I missing here?

is she claiming jailkeeper?

[curiouskarmadog]

Who do you think has been saving farside's tutu every night, geniuses???

Yes, insult our intelligence for not being able to guess your role.

This does make things interesting though.

Unvote, Vote Killa Seven

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what do you think saving tutu means? Saving farside from what? kills?..kills from what? another killing role? what am I missing here?

is she claiming jailkeeper?

You are not that dense.

FOS ckd

well obviously I am missing something....how is TS saving your tutu? I am sure we have a doc here, is she claiming that?...if so then how is she saving farside's tutu?..that must mean that she thinks (or knows) there is another killing role.

how can anyone counterclaim if she is so vague.

again, I call bullshit.

[curiouskarmadog]

For the record Tar, you DID pick up on something, but it wasnt a doc claim.

anyway, TS stated that she has been saving farside's tutu. the actual quote is..

Who do you think has been saving farside's tutu every night, geniuses???

This sounds like she knows that attempts have been made on farside's life and that farside was not killed(protected). Who would know that attempts have been made on farside's life? A doc WOULD NOT KNOW. A doc only knows that they are protecting someone...not that they are actually saving someone. This statement looks like it is inside knowledge....

again, I call bullshit.

now she is flirting with a claim, in the process it appears she is trying role fish. NO ONE CLAIM UNTIL WE GET A FULL CLAIM FROM TS.

also, korlash, if bricks are falling from your celling you need to move.

[curiouskarmadog]

well there is a lot of BS calling then.

(waiting for a full claim)

[curiouskarmadog]

this game has been long..do you mean night 1? when did farside claim?

[curiouskarmadog]

actually dont answer that question until TS FULLY CLAIMS!

[curiouskarmadog]

This claim by TS is, ultimately, not a claim yet.

It is designed to do EXACTLY what it is doing -

QFT

[curiouskarmadog]

answer what? no I am not smoking crack...way to deflect.

more bullshit. so you "think" you will be kill tonight, but you want to claim tomorrow morning...so are you saying that you will not claim anymore today?

[curiouskarmadog]

1.) you said tomorrow....which in mafia means the next game day. Why wait until tomorrow, when you are still posting now?

2.) YOU were the one saying you were saving farside's tutu. Saving it from what exactly? Do you think there is a difference between saving and protecting?

[curiouskarmadog]

Second... CKD, you've piqued my interest for much the same reason that Matt_S piqued it earlier. I want to see some explanation from you.

FoS: curiouskarmadog

nothing new here...I dont like the way she worded her soft claim...I also dont like the fact she really hasnt claimed. What is it do you want from me? I am sure we have a doc, I want TS to claim what she is...NOW. what kind of "tutu saving role" does she have?

6.) Even if I am 100% wrong about TS and she is town, CKD is very suspect in his interaction with her today. I'll give more on that when it comes.

I dont like this post either....if she is town, CKD is very suspect?....why not mention what happens if she flips scum?

at this point I am fine with a mass claim.

[curiouskarmadog]

fuck...

unvote

if there is a counter claim..I would like to see it.

I know

there is not another doc in the game.

[curiouskarmadog]

fuck...

unvote

if there is a counter claim..I would like to see it.

I know

there is not another doc in the game.

I don't know if there is or not, but if someone does have a counter claim they better say so, because I do not disbelieve TS at this point.

I dont believe her either..however, I know there is a doc...and I know there is just one.

[curiouskarmadog]

Ok that answers my question i think. But how do you "know" anything?

you are smart...you can figure it out.

[curiouskarmadog]

so have we all agreed to claim then? I dont have a problem going first, but I want everyone agree to claim.

I also think with these claims, everyone should claim what they did during the night.

[curiouskarmadog]

well, i will claim in good faith that the others will too.

I have left plenty of breadcrumbs so I am shocked that most of you have not gotten this by now. I am a Nurse. That is how I KNOW there is a Doc...and I cant imagine that there are more than one Doc, if I am a Nurse.

[curiouskarmadog]

Mod, can you please prod SA (BM), Tom, and TS? thank you

[curiouskarmadog]

DGB has posted that she wont have internet access between the 5th to the 11th...

[curiouskarmadog]

well, seems obvious to me that we lynch TS no matter the massclaim...though I think now we need to wait now for the claims.

if Korlash is lying it will be obvious...and stupid.

Vote TS

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[curiouskarmadog]

...though I think now we need to wait now for the claims.

just so that we are straight, I mean we should hold off now on claiming ..this was worded badly.

[curiouskarmadog]

Surye please post in 82.

why are you referencing other games?

[curiouskarmadog]

is this the GD thread?

[curiouskarmadog]

we also have many people not posting at all.

[curiouskarmadog]

there has also been several nights with no kills, so something is going on...

I think TS should claim who she has protected every night.

[curiouskarmadog]

Seriously. This is a mod error then. Or some twist that I cannot explain. I totally sent the protection orders.

But if you want to lynch me, fine, I'm frankly shocked to be alive, I'm a dead toaster strudel walking no matter what.

So you don't even think about accusing Korlash of lying. Why is that?

QFT

scum together?

[curiouskarmadog]

why is that?

[curiouskarmadog]

can we get on with this lynch?

Mod, please confirm that you are prodding the lurkers

[curiouskarmadog]

thank you

[curiouskarmadog]

still waiting on this

I think TS should claim who she has protected every night.

[curiouskarmadog]

umm, there was also no death last night (when you state you chose not to do anything)...why have we not done this yet?

[curiouskarmadog]

Now, CKDscum, give me one valid reason why I'm not the Doctor.

I bet you scumbags decided to off armlx, just because as a non-nightkilled Doctor I'd be the next day's auto-lynch with just a little push from your crew.

[curiouskarmadog]

I thought I was scum..

and I dont think Matt_s would agree with you about Kscope and skitzer.

are you just trying to get anything going and see what might stick?

[curiouskarmadog]

checking in and and rereading...as much as I would like too, I dont see Tar as scum..his plan seems geniune...which doesnt help my stock at all..but it is what it is.
not sure I understand Korlash's last post(matt got protection?) not sure what to think about the masons at this point, but I really dont think we have 3 more scum

going to reread yesterday and see what there is to see.

[curiouskarmadog]

will update my games this weekend.

I think Tar is right, I think we have pretty much won this game..lynch me if you got to...I am only a nurse and have not be activated...plus, if you lynch me, it will confirm someone else (or the at least another role)....I still win if dead..so no worries.

[curiouskarmadog]

vote surye.

I think tar's plan is good....and I dont think scum would be voting himself at this point, espeically given the plan...

[curiouskarmadog]

my vote is in the right place.

there is no reason to lynch Tar over Surye.

[curiouskarmadog]

well, lets kill somebody..if it has got to be me..so be it...I think tar's plan (if he really means it) is solid..I dont think the masons are lying (grimmy?)...I doubt there are 3 more scum...

[curiouskarmadog]

I think I am the best choice...when I die..it will prove that we have a doc.

[curiouskarmadog]

well I dont see why they would kill you over the masons...

[curiouskarmadog]

well I dont see why they would kill you over the masons...

Perhaps because doctors can stop night kills?

no more discussion about this.

[curiouskarmadog]

going to be out of town until Monday...posting in all threads.

[curiouskarmadog]

after having so many different partners (replacements)...losing the fucking mod..and BM(SA) going silent...I just didnt care anymore..

good game town, but at the end...I just wanted to die.

I think Korlash blocked us twice (a farside kill and a MattS kill)