Mafia 85 - Murder at the Bus Stop (game over)

[springlullaby]

Hello hello
(Hi Muerrto, thanks for replacing me in 588, that was a fun game.)

I read before the week-end, but have forgotten about everything, will post very soon.

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Vote:Surye

Because he seems very eager to post, jumping up and down, but at the same time not saying much. I also don't like that 'people who jumped ship' comment. If you have suspicions, when don't you just state them clearly.

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I vote against any Sir T re-replacing on principle of him having an unrevealed night choice.

Wait, what? How do you know he had a night choice?

He died and was revealed as a bus driver.....

So do you think he was a jailkeeper of some sort? My guess is mason personally.

Huh, what are you on about?

Btw, by the light of SirT's cardflip the theme of the game take on a new dimension altogether. Don't know why I wasn't expecting it.

No one else interested in Surye? What about this post from him just before night?

There are suspicious things going on. I'm not moving my vote, but this will all come up tomorrow, that's for sure.

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No one else interested in Surye? What about this post from him just before night?

There are suspicious things going on. I'm not moving my vote, but this will all come up tomorrow, that's for sure.

I think we should lynch someone who voted Slicey today.

Not sure where to place my vote yet. Still need to read up, I guess. I'll think about it.

That, or someone who jumped ship last minute. Both are good sources for the next vote.

Yeah, so what?

Do you want brownie points for saying something scummy then doing it?

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Let me reformulate, what is it that you intend to convey with this post ?

Does it exemplify anything in particular?

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The above post amused me.

My thoughts on the Xtoxm wagon: his acting difficult is not necessarily a scumtell, in fact it has me leaning town on him atm, and the case against him suck.

The only valid point against him is that he is being annoying, which is not much of a point.

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I'm retracting my town read on Xtoxm, now I think he could go either way.

I still think Surye is red-handed scum:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 42#1300342
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 25#1300525

1. His 'this is going to come up tomorrow' comment is scummy in itself because it possibly indicates that he assumed he was going to survives the night.

2. More importantly, his priding himself in being consistent in his suspicions is a dead giveaway imo because
a)consistency is the least of town's worry while casting suspicions
b)it indicates that he wasn't planning to - and indeed didn't - take into account the event of the night and the resulting death in his view of the game: town doesn't think like that, after a night, town see the cardflips and realign their thinking.

3. His suspicions on RestFermata, which were tentative and flaccid to begin with, seem to have deflated on the spot and altogether when they were met with less than enthusiasm and a little criticism.

So yeah, I like my vote where it is.

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EBWOP

Note here that I'm not against policy lynching lurkers in this game.

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The argument around K7 is way over my head, and I have zero read on him but I'm willing to lynch him for less than stellar contribution just to move the game along.

Still prefer my surye thing though.

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bated, I like to mispell it as 'bathed' myself.

I agree with Muerrto, meta case sucks, still ok to lynch K7 though. Don't like RestFermata's last couple of post much.

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Why are you OK to lynch K7.

I won't be voting K7, Meta is fine to support a case but it shouldn't be the entire case.

Because I have no read on him, meaning he could go either way, and he is not contributive. Already said that btw.

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Vote:Surye

Nothing changed.

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Armlx, you multiple references to meta are becoming obscure and arcane. And I'm not entirely sure you're not just pulling them out of your posterior. Link please.

Plus, I'm not liking the way you are presenting them, more as a justification of your own suspicions than as element of a case because you are never forthcoming with the explanation of how your meta is relevant. So yeah, explain the High School reference and why it is relevant please.

I'm not sure I buy a wall-e/alex dichotomy.

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I don't know what to think of that. So I'll just try to erase the image of Arnold having sex by hitting my head against the keyboard a couple of times.

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Ahh, better.

So, by dichotomy I meant scum/town between Mr GIJoe and alex, or vice versa.

But to be honest, I don't know what to make of most the things that has been said. Right now, I have no read on no-one but Surye. See my case on him yesterday. Yes I'm to lazy to even link it.

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Man, just unvote alex already, lynching claimed cop on day 3 is stupid no matter what.

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Hold on a sec.

I believe armlx but I have the following to reveal.

I'm a bus driver I exchanged Muerrto and Surey last night so, barring another interference, Surye is scum.

My weak-crumbing bus driver - http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 76#1300276

I replaced in late during N1 and choose no action.

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Yeah, I got mixed up. Muerrto is town.

vote: cream

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I actually deleted my PM by accident, so you'll have to wait till the mod resend me one.

Mod edit
Votecount:
al4xz (3): kuribo, armlx, farside22
Cream147 (3): Xtoxm, springlullaby, Surye
Wall-E (2): Muerrto, al4xz
Alabaska J (2): Wall-E, Jebus
Jebus (1): Riceballtail
Muerrto (1): Alabaska J

Not voting (7): Gremwell, Slepz, Zazier, Cream147, RestFermata, ThAdmiral, BlakAdder

With 19 alive it's 10 to lynch.

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SL, I thought bus driver was all actions A makes target who B was going to target and visa versa.

You are implying all actions targetting A would be swapped to B and visa versa.

Check your role PM and confirm which of these is true.

I actually deleted my role PM by accident, so you'll have to wait till Lawrencelot resent it to me so I can verify, but in my memory it's switch between 2 persons so the actions they are subjected to are inverted.

I'm realizing now that my claim was a bit useless, but I got mixed up and thought it made for another guilty.

As for what action I should take tonight, I need to think about it.

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alex, what do you have to say?

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Actually, had you not claimed it would have been much better.

Sigh.

Yeah, I know, total fuck up. Kicking myself.

More speculation time, given the theme of the game:

I think there is at least another protown bus-driver, and they may want to target me, and switch to a person they think are scum.

I think there is a big probability for an antitown bus-driver, in which case you want to give me the best chance of getting my night action in first.
This means try to give me warning before hammering.

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Or that yeah.

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Right, got my PM, it's a switch between two players.

Before anything happen I'd still like to see an answer from alex and cream.

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Night activity report: I switched between armlx and kuribo

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Have to review Wall-E and xtoxm.

Them being buddy could explain Wall-E's strange behavior at the end of the day, as trying to save the RB's ass.

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armlx, we gotta coordinate.

xtoxm, claim.

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What?
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No one hammer for now, technicalities to be discussed before going into night.


I just realized that coordinating actions won't work if there is a mafia bus driver.

But in case xtoxm is the mafia bus-driver I suggest armlx announce a target whom I will stay clear off for my switch before the lynch.

If he isn't, then he should pick a target of his choosing, and I will as well.

And as for last night, I'll protect armlx, and the other protown bus-driver should choose between protecting armlx or me.

How does that sound?

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Althought there is a certain degree of 'this looks so bad I'm almost tempted to believe it' to what Wall-E is saying, I'm good with lynching him.

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Doc and no action taken N1?

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Was right about Surye, nahnahnah.

Is it me or the rate of scumwins have vastly improved on this site? Seems to me every last games I've played had scum winning.