Mafia 33: Checkmate - Game over!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Sigh.... page 2 b4 I even got a chance to vote?

This must be the dastardly work of....

BabyJesus!

vote BJ

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sigh abusing the quoting system already BJ?

Shame shame!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think the game setup has a huge impact on the viability of nolynch, considering that it's nearly certain that we have a greater than 50% chance of hitting a hostile with your vote(16/31 from the other color and whatever mafia r in your color), it seems sensible that lynching someone would be a wise choice.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

And regarding game balance, I believe this game will be heavily tilted towards the scum because townie/protown roles are going to be much more likely to lie in their claims if we press for color since they will likely become the target later if the scum go down and it would be haphazard for the shorter color to truthfully colorclaim meaning that counterclaiming could only end up getting 2 good guy roleplayers killed because of color discrepancies and what not.

This is why I would like to propose that we do NOT consider colorclaiming until the scum are all gone, roleclaims being fine(cop, doc, roleblocker, giant pumpkin of death) but don't attach a color to them as that will put pressure on the weaker color leading to potentiall false colorclaiming that might help out the mafia quite a bit.

Other than that I believe we should try to not let the game stall and people lose interest, 32 player games r tough to keep up with and if we lose the interest of some of the less eager players then we could have a problem with replacements later into the game.

If anyone's wondering why I am voting BJ, it's not really because of the quotechanging, it's that in every game of his that I've read, it seems that BJ manages to aggravate large numbers of people and get all the attention focused on him which helps the scum slip away unnoticed in the background.

You can check out the games BJ has cited himself to see what I am talking about.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

vote Coron

Coron's play this game smells especially fishy,

I believe he probably got a powerful antitown role and is playing it this way for his glory.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you got yaw and Locus mixed up there in ur quotes

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

This is going to be Pooky's probable setup update, brought to you by, well who else but Pooky?

This post will be pure speculation, and something for Pooky to laugh at should he turn out to be actually right

Mafia Teams:
1 Queen(The Godfather)
1 Bishop(The Spy)
2 Pawns(The Goons)

mirrored on the other side

2 of the 4 Knights are Serial Killers, probably one on each side
The other 2 are likely to be Vigilantes out for the cause of good, heck they might even be masons who don't know that their partner is a dirty serial killer .

Since the Mod mentioned there would be a LOT of nightkilling, 6 possible per night sounds certainly quite enough .

Lastly,

Vote: IS

just a hunch, but I'd say he's the Black Queen(Mafia Godfather).

Now for you doubting skeptics who say,
"Uh Pooky, where'd you pull all of this junk out of? Your ass?

I'd say, "why certainly, what have you pulled out recently?"

Follow the Bear!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Sigh, I guess I'm going to have to explain me logic for ye doubters.

I believe Andrew mirrored the Mafia and SK roles on both sides of the game because Symetry is kinda pretty like that.

Since 1 of the Bishops is Mafia, I'd wager that the other bishop is innocent because otherwise we would have no alignment cops on the towns side(which doesn't make too much sense by my count)

The only explanation for the number of kills that have been happenning is that we have 6 killers, 2 Vigs, 2 SKs, and 2 Mafia Teams, I'm not a big fan of the one man killing 4 people scenario, just doesn't seem to plausible, I think Andrew was using artistic license in that nightscene.

Kings r Docs/ColorCops, Rooks r Roleblockers, Bishops are Alignment Cops. That would make it highly plausible that Knights are the vigilantes, with perhaps 1 on each side happening to be a crazy serial killer.

Also the Godfather of each Mafia Group on each side should be a piece higher in rank than a Bishop, wouldn't make much sense to have a Pawn being the Godfather over a Bishop no? Since Black's king is already dead, that leaves the Queen as being the Godfather of the Mafia Family probably with 2 more pawns as Mafia underlings.

Now we come to the last part of Pooky's speculation, that IS is the dirty Black Queen(Mafia Godfather), which is solely base upon the fact that IS is still alive, whether accurate or not, IS has a sort of reputation of being able to sniff out scum or being dangerous in the endgame and some other number of random things that I have my own reasons to doubt. However what I doubt is that 4anti town killers and 2 protown killers would let IS live for 2 consecutive nights in a game with a low doctor count, I just don't see that happening. Which leads to probable nightkill immunity from being a Godfather, IS as godfather just screams as something that Andrew would do to hurt us poor townies along with this bilateral color scheme. Now why do I say he's the Black queen? Cuz IS has a dark dark heart and he's evil .

Also I think waking up when you're bandwagoned and trying to create an alternate bandwagon to get pressure off your own arse is kinda scummy .

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'd certainly expect that to be a viable scum tactic in a low kill game, i.e. I can see 1 scum group deciding to leave you alive then try to set you up during the day, However 4 antitown kills deciding to leave your shiny butt alone is just too unlikely for my taste.

and Origen, I just love how you play, waiting for someone to say something interesting or something interesting to come along without ever actually contributing anything yourself other than voting the people who actually try to contribute or stir up discussion.
The lazy ol sit in the back seat and watch the trees go by attitude does some good in a game of mafia enh?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'd certainly expect that to be a viable scum tactic in a low kill game, i.e. I can see 1 scum group deciding to leave you alive then try to set you up during the day, However 4 antitown kills deciding to leave your shiny butt alone is just too unlikely for my taste.

and Origen, I just love how you play, waiting for someone to say something interesting or something interesting to come along without ever actually contributing anything yourself other than voting the people who actually try to contribute or stir up discussion.
The lazy ol sit in the back seat and watch the trees go by attitude does some good in a game of mafia enh?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

*tosses his conspiracy theory from yesterday out of the window*

Looks like Pooky is wrong,

vote Iammars

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I less than three Yaw

vote crola

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

*huggles with Yaw*

I would neva set you up!

Honest!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

*huge yawn comes out of Pooky*

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am not the black pawn.

STD can go next.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sigh,

Just count how many black pawns are actually dead and u'll see why this confusion has come about.



there are 6 Black Pawns dead, meaning there should still be 2 alive.

One of the three is lying and I'm annoyed no1 bothered to check the original count.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

BJ makes sense,

wow this is scary


*shudder*

vote Crola

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

um wouldn't the scum then not choose to kill Yaw?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I mean use Yaw to kill

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Yaw is hilarious.

No side has a majority because there are SIX sides in this game right now and they all need to agree who to lynch.

And only one side wins in the end!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'd expect the Knights and Bishops to be of different mafias.

How else do you explain the 3 nightkills last night? Unless u believe that each mafia family has 2 kills.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

So who wants to take the offer of a nonagression pact with me? Pooky the Happy Huggly Bear?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

There are 6 sides right now.

Black Town(2)
Black Bishop(1)
Black Knights(2)
White Rook(1)
White Bishop(1)
White King(1)

To better balance the game for everyone involved, it is my hope we lynch from one of the 2 player groups.

Now the information we have is tremendous since all of the scum happen to be cops as well.

Though whether we can come to an agreement would be questionable.

I am willing to offer a treaty of nonaggression(agreed no targetting each other at night) to any interested party.

I will have no assurances as to whether you would actually stick through with this other than your word, and you no other than my word, I hope that this would be enough for both of us.

I am also willing to offer a treaty of alliance to any player who wishes for that, we agree to vote together as a bloc, never to vote for each other, never to shoot each other. This treaty will be null if we are the only 2 players left in the game.

Seeing as how this is quite a unique mafia game, I believe it calls for new play conditions.


And seeing as how I'm an incredibly Magical Bear that feels really good to huggle, why wouldn't you want to get into an alliance with me?

The wind across the ravine is cool, the trees sway majestically in the breeze. Birds of many colors fly across the skies, chasing a majestic sunrise and I'm all alone on this veranda by myself. I lay back softly and stretch my legs across the wood. A rich aroma wafts up from my teapot, I begin to pry open my jar of honey.

Won't you come have some with me?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

*pours Roland some tea and adds a healthy dose of honey*

Of course dear,

Isn't that sunrise magnificent?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Anyone else up for an alliance with teh Pookster?

Cuddly, and really nice tea!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Sencha Strawberry of course.

Come Yaw, you know you want to join me.

It'd be so fun together, that sunrise, and all those birds.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh yes, and my ally has marched to war!

I must of course follow

vote Fuldu

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Well now that you've joined as an ally, I have 2 allies voting for Origen and only one voting for Fuldu.

Guess it's time to switch over and lynch the Lt.

Come with me Roland, it'll be so much fun.


*Sits down on the bench, nursing his cup of steaming tea, watches the sun move across the sky with effortless grace*

Won't you come have some tea with me? The view really is magnificent.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

unvote

vote Lt. Origen

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

There are no godfathers in Chess.

lol how could that work?

The Knights are equal looking.

Btw, Yes I am the White King.(Who else loves Yaw enough to keep his butt alive enh?)

Lastly, to all you killers out there, please consider this if you think you should be killing me, in an endgame if it's down to 2 people, you and another killer, that's a draw.

But in an endgame where's it's u and the white king, that's a win.

You have absolutely nothing to fear from me, I am a one man group without a nightkill, probly the weakest position in the game right now.

A doctor is a powerful role, but a doctor with not a single townie on his side is kind of powerless.

Lastly, I will be protecting someone who is allied to me, this person will be randomly chosen, applications for Alliance to the Pooky are still available at your local bookstore.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

*cuddles with Roland*

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Oh Hey Guys


This is uh, Pooky, your super awesome magical bear.


At this point niether of you have the power to win the game outright.

However Pooky has been really nice to both of you through this game and has been kind of keeping you guys alive .

To recap in case you didn't know, both of you are scum from different sides, Yaw is white scum and STD is black scum and Pooky is the White King.

If you both decide to lynch me, you will kill each other at night and there will be no win for any1.

If we lynch STD, Yaw wins, if we lynch Yaw, STD wins.

I however propose a fourth option that gives satisfactory odds to all players involved(well sorta)

We nolynch, Yaw shoots STD, STD shoots Yaw and Pooky rolls a die.

1-2 He protects no1(White Town Wins)
3-4 He protects STD(STD Wins)
5-6 He protects Yaw(Yaw wins)

This would pretty much give us a fairly even distribution of winning, as opposed to forcing a draw.

The wind breezing through the sycamore trees is cool and damp, I am alone on the veranda sipping my tea. The mountain rises defiantly in all its splendor into the mists behind me. A mockingbird flies low above the ground, drinking the first of a sweet morning's dew. It sings a song of times good and bad, dreams old and new, and a life where we are all happy together.

Won't you come have some tea with me?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It's not a tie between your 2 scum families if u lynch me and shoot each other at night.

It would be basically everybody loses because we all died.

I think you can trust Pooky, he only kept your butt alive for the last 6 nights.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I will vote against the first person to vote me.

So if you vote me, you are pretty much forfeiting the game.

Cmon guys, don't you seriously trust Pooky to be honest?

Please?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Look, Pooky's been trying to keep this game balanced and keep the Black town from overwhelming us and winning the whole game.

I think you both can trust Pooky because Pooky is really awesome like that.
(Btw we had about 7 of these situations at Jeepfest already(not with a doc, just 2 different sided killers and one random town person))


The sunset really is beautiful.

won't you come watch with me?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

No because Pooky isn't stupid enough to vote for either of you.

Night night.

vote Nolynch

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

How would I have had to vote one of you?

Pooky can wait on his veranda with his tea forever.

The sunset's coming, let's see what the dice comes up with.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

How exactly do they force me to vote for one of them?

If they vote for each other, I have no reason to vote for one of them.

They can't exactly FORCE me to vote for one of them and throw the game away.

Thanks to Andrew/BK/Speedy for making the game exciting all the way through.

I did not actually lie about throwing the die, I did however write over the other surfaces with 1's and 2's.

I violated the spirit of our agreement but not the letter. Cuz Pooky doesn't lie

It felt pretty hopeless when I figured out I was the last of the White town and I had been protecting scum the whole time(though it WAS yaw. )

But I got pretty lucky in da endgame with the cross shooting.

Guess I didn't keep Yaw's butt alive for 7 nights for nothing .

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

And I was ROFL when the town managed to out all 3 of their pawns and their queen to get nightkilled.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Well noone asked me what sort of die I was rolling

I certainly never said it was a fair die