Mafia 39: Back to Gambits - Game over!

[BabyJesus]

hi

[BabyJesus]

Vote: BabyJesus

out of habit.

[BabyJesus]

gee I wonder who the mafia might be.....

vote dybeck

[BabyJesus]

The Roles:

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Bookie:

The Bookie is a Civilian who may place a bet on either (a) who will be killed during the night, or (b) who will be lynched during the following day. If it transpires during the following day that the chosen person has been killed by the method selected, then the Bookie will have an additional choice the following night - (a) bring someone back to life, or (b) investigate someone, with the option of looking for Mafia or Werewolves. If the chosen person is dead, he shall be brought back to life. If he is alive, the Bookie will be told whether or not that person is Mafia/Werewolf.

I wonder if the Bookie picked me for D1

[BabyJesus]

unvote, vote Save The Dragons

[BabyJesus]

Here's a plan. Lynch me tomorrow. Bookie - Pick me tomorrow.

Today we lynch someone else...

[BabyJesus]

Here's a plan. Lynch me tomorrow. Bookie - Pick me tomorrow.

Today we lynch someone else...

Obviously using this to investigate someone, unless we want to revive someone killed...at least the dead have a 50% of not being one of the scum.

[BabyJesus]

Well, the scum would probably decide to kill him and so we would lose knowing what he is (though that may be good if he's revealed to not be scum).

The problem I have with it is that it automatically locks us into a particular choice tomorrow, which I don't like. Too much can happen between now and then.

"kill him" being who exactly? You think they'd waste a kill on me to stop a revival?

[BabyJesus]

The problem I have with it is that it automatically locks us into a particular choice tomorrow, which I don't like. Too much can happen between now and then.

True...but who knows, we could have lost a good role. Or we could have lost a bad guy, lol.

Just thowing the idea out there.

[BabyJesus]

The best way to achieve celebrity is to get talked about by stars. Therefore, I'll

unvote Pooky, vote Jeep

and I'll encourage everyone else to join me.

who is jeep...

unvote, vote jeep

this bandwagon is as good as any

[BabyJesus]

Vote Baby Jesus

for jumping on an early bandwagon

true, I rarely do this in other games....looks like you figured out my scum tell!

[BabyJesus]

There's no way we should lynch BabyJesus just because of his reputation as a Day 1 lynch.

If we're going to lynch him, it should be for all the reasons we usually lynch him.

Actually, if you;re going to lynch me, just do it tomorrow so the bookie can get it right....

[BabyJesus]

There's no way we should lynch BabyJesus just because of his reputation as a Day 1 lynch.

If we're going to lynch him, it should be for all the reasons we usually lynch him.

Double posting ?

I find responding to individual people better done in separate posts, rather then done in one huge post. It's kinda like how in the Bible our Lord Jesus broke it up into books, chapters, and verses...so too do I break up my thoughts into different posts.

[BabyJesus]

Hmmmmm, BabyJesus, I'm willing to bet you're one of those roles that changes sides once you're lynch. Mafia --> Town or Town --> Mafia. (I forget the names, lol). That's my only explanation for why you are suggesting a lynch on yourself .

So I guess you didn't buy me being a PJV that is willing to take one for team to hopefully get a roleplayer resurrected...

[BabyJesus]

BabyJesus

, are you seriously comparing yourself to God (not the player, but the diety)?? Wow. Also, the bandwagon on me is not as good as any other.

no...

fos @ jeep

And are you implying the bandwagon on you is BETTER then? good to know...

[BabyJesus]

Vote: SpeedKQ

for jumping on Jeep's bandwagon.

your not so subtle attempt to deflect the jeep bandwagon has been noted

[BabyJesus]

vote std

[BabyJesus]

STD train sure got going fast.....

[BabyJesus]

but I'll happily switch to StD.

*feels betrayed*
*cries*
*still thinks HezLucky's the way to go*

HEY! You guys misread my post and distorted it. No. Bad people. Bad, bad people. Stop that.

Once we kill you and if you are innocent, I'm going to try and figure out why jeep was so adament about killing you,

and if I can't find a reason

, I'll

vote

him.

Keywords are bolded. Meaning I have faith that the "uberpro" jeep's going to at least come up with something, and if he doesn't, then obviously something's wrong, because he just got HezLucky lynched and I'm not 100% sure why.

And then there's this whole vote thing. You know, like this.

Unvote, Vote jeep

Unvote, Vote Speedy

Unvote, Vote Babyjesus

Unvote, Vote Roland

Unvote, Vote Enigma

Unvote, Vote Thesp

Have I lynched one of you yet? No. My vote is weak and powerless if not in the collective.

I never said we should lynch jeep. I never advocated his lynch. And sorry to pull out the WIFOM, but this game is named Back to Gambits! I'm not going to play a stupid gambit and hope that the people who I know would recognize those gambits (like Speedy and Jeep) wouldn't notice.

Happy, town? Or are you just going to kill me anyway?

unvote, vote jeep

[BabyJesus]

unvote, vote Astronaut

[BabyJesus]

Any other thoughts on the planned lynch of me tomorrow so the bookie can resurrect either Coron or LML? If one of them is a power role that we could use, it might be worth it...

[BabyJesus]

unvote, vote thesp

[BabyJesus]

unvote, vote dybeck

[BabyJesus]

It's still moderate, and let's say hypothetically I'm a power role. How helpful am I going to be if I have a giant gap in my lifespan. That, and it's unlikely someone would ressurect me based on my play today. I wouldn't blame them.

Why? After we lynch you, we'll know what you were....I think it's only night kills that are unknown....

[BabyJesus]

unvote, vote jeep

[BabyJesus]

UNVOTE, VOTE HEZLUCKY

wow, talk about defensive about a couple votes

[BabyJesus]

Yes, I get defensive. That's not a good reason to vote me.

plus all the cool kids are doing it

[BabyJesus]

While I'm not convinced at all that dybeck is telling the truth, it makes him a poor choice for a lynch today.

Unvote: dybeck, Vote: HezLucky

. I think he's scum, too.

Well, once we have more then 2 dead people, we can easily force him to confirm himself by attempting a resurrection. Not good odds to do it now then, with a 50% chance he'll die

[BabyJesus]

Can we lynch STD?

[BabyJesus]

I can happily join this one.....

unvote, VOTE SAVE THE DRAGONS

[BabyJesus]

First off

unvote: Dybeck

However I'm rather torn between STD and Lucky. STD was wagoned before and, to me at least, gave a passable defense. Lucky however haas been extremly defensive at every turn and began the whole jeep debacle.
I have some reservations about STD but luckies overly defensive stance makes him scummier to me so

vote: Hez lucky

Hmm. So STD is the one being run up, so you express "suspicion" of him, while attempting to derail it for a Hezlucky train....

So if STD is scum we should immediately lynch Enigma91 next...

[BabyJesus]

Get me to 12 and you'll regret it.

X

doubt it

[BabyJesus]

Get me to 12 and you'll regret it.

X

doubt it

fixed

[BabyJesus]

Unvote

Vote: Save The Dragons

Are you

really

asking for 11 votes??

Um...no. I do NOT want to claim. I'm just saying if you must make me claim, then I'm making sure you go all out.

Or we could just lynch you without last words.....you are scum, why should your role fake make any difference...

[BabyJesus]

Or we could just lynch you without last words.....you are scum, why should your role fake make any difference...

Tempted to switch vote... ARG...

DO IT. Hezlucky can wait, STD is the play today.

[BabyJesus]

He's voting me in Werewolf, too.

[BabyJesus]

DO IT. Hezlucky can wait, STD is the play today.

I meant switch my vote to you.

that would not be helpful

[BabyJesus]

To quote one of my favorite magicians,

I'm Criss fucking Angel.

I'm the Angel.

So yeah. That's why after I made a stupid mistake I didn't really want to claim. I'm not the scums your looking for, despite what anyone might think. Hezlucky is still my number 1.

I DISPUTE THIS

[BabyJesus]

confirm vote std

[BabyJesus]

Are you an idiot or something? Just vote STD already.

If STD is the Angel, Bookie puts it on BJ and we lynch him tomorrow, thus resurrecting him.

I like this plan

[BabyJesus]

But what should he do if STD isn't the Angel? A dybeck night-kill?

I think thats a good plan....

[BabyJesus]

Oh, and I'm not the angel, obviously, if I were it would be stoopid to counter claim, since an outed angel is toast eventually with 2 killing groups. Still a good plan to confirm STD by lynching him, then if he is the angel we can bring him back...

[BabyJesus]

Oh, and I'm not the angel, obviously, if I were it would be stoopid to counter claim, since an outed angel is toast eventually with 2 killing groups.

I don't dispute that an outed Angel is bad, but keep in mind that only the Mafia would have any incentive to target the Angel over any other pro-town player. As far as the Werewolves are concerned, the Angel is just another townie. The same (or vice-versa) is true of many of the roles in this game.

But if you're not counterclaiming Angel, then what was with the big old disputation? Not that many other explanations exist given this role set. You could be the Seer and have investigated STD and know that he's a Werewolf, but then you'd have been voting him harder, sooner, instead of voting for (oy) six different people over the course of the day, half of them three or more times. You could be the Governor, have investigated STD and know that he's a protective role, but then you wouldn't be voting him (and it isn't clear why he'd be lying). You could be in a group (scum or mason) with him, but you wouldn't be voting him and he wouldn't be lying (if mason) or wouldn't be disputing the claim so fervently but maybe still voting him (if scum). None of those really make any sense and I can't come up with any other explanations beyond translating your outburst as "I don't believe you." If that's what you meant by it, you should say so, because otherwise I'm going to have a hard time trusting you tomorrow whether STD turns out to be scum or not.

yes

[BabyJesus]

Oh, and I think BabyJesus would still be a good target for the bookie lynch tomorrow. Unless you guys have better suggestions?

This isn't important though. Unless the bookie says otherwise or a cop gets a result then I think that we should assume that BJ was the bookie's choice.

For now, let's lynch STD. Better than him dying at night to the opposing scum group ... this way we can confirm his innocence.

I wonder if this guy is scum....

[BabyJesus]

unvote, vote hezlucky

[BabyJesus]

In all seriousness...as much as I would like to see STD be lynched, I don't really think lynching someone claiming a power role is a good idea at this stage...

[BabyJesus]

viking - I'm talking about STD.

If he's not killed then we don't know WHY. Therefore, we can't really test his claim at night. We must do it at day.

Unless the bookie is dead....

[BabyJesus]

Oh, and I'm not the angel, obviously, if I were it would be stoopid to counter claim, since an outed angel is toast eventually with 2 killing groups. Still a good plan to confirm STD by lynching him, then if he is the angel we can bring him back...

See, I'm not an idiot after all. Why on earth would you say "I DISPUTE THIS" if you aren't the Angel? You have nothing to dispute, and you made everyone think you were counter-claiming, more than likely on purpose.

Unvote; Vote: BabyJesus

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Wow - I guess offering to be lynched D2 so a confirmed gg could be resurrected didn;t fool you, huh? Damn, you're sharp at this game....

[BabyJesus]

So much going on all at once...

STD, please reveal your investigation.

I don't think the lack of an Angel counterclaim means much. If I were the real Angel I'd hold off on counterclaiming while STD was still so close to lynch.

roland's two statements seem sorta contradictory, but it doesn't bother me that much. In both cases he is annoyed by the ambiguity of BabyJesus' "dispute" statement, and I can understand that.

I too am getting more and more suspicious of HezLucky as the game goes on. I wish I've played in other games with him, to have a sense of whether his style is normally so scummy.

I know we're getting anxious to get this day over with - I am too. But this choose a vig kill for the bookie plan is important enough that we should discuss it.

I'm pretty sure he did reveal his investigation, and got innocent on roland I think....

[BabyJesus]

Can we focus on lynching Hezlucky pls?

[BabyJesus]

I'm sticking with STD. His lynch, IMO, will tell us the most, and that's what I'm basing my decision on.

you really think we should lynch the claimed angel?? I think we might be better off moving elsewhere....

[BabyJesus]

Good point, Puzzle. I have a lot of patience for BabyJesus not making sense, but enough is enough.

This is one of the most blatant contradictions I've ever seen in a mafia game. After the claim BJ was all, "I DISPUTE THIS" and "confirm vote" and now he doesn't want to lynch the claimed angel? Whats going on?!

FOS BabyJesus.

If there wasn't a bandwagon on StD that I like, and a deadline, I'd gladly switch my vote.

I changed my mind....plus I wanted to see people's reactions....feel free to lynch me if you want.

[BabyJesus]

Vote: STD

The best lynch right now, IMO.

I know I'm innocent, BJ seems innocent to me and anybody else would just be a completely random bandwagon. This lynch gives us a lot of good information.

seriously, I'd rather you guys lynch me then lynch the angel...yeah, he might be lying, but its still a bad lynch with no one coutner claiming. The "I dispute" thing I did was messing with him for a backstab he did in a different game.

[BabyJesus]

BabyJesus, I swear you are Judus/whatever the other guys' name is...

X

[BabyJesus]

And I should add E)trading off a scum for a cop(that finds half our scum) is a bad trade at this point in time when we still have 8 more scum to find! We have to play this game long-range. !

and if std is telling the truth??

[BabyJesus]

Yep, I agree with jeep.

I realize the Angel could die tonight- that's one of the risks we take. But here's the thing-EVERY role will be claimed twice because there are so many scum and so few roles to claim. There are 9 scum and only one true Angel. That means the odds are one in ten that STD is telling the truth. I'm willing to take those odds.

so basically you are saying there is no need to wait for last words? I'll remember that when we run you up....

[BabyJesus]

And you didn't answer my question as to why you believe STD now when you didn't when he first claimed. Explain that please.

no

[BabyJesus]

can we focus on killing hezlucky pls?

[BabyJesus]

Why don't we have just the masons claim for now....good place to start for narrowing the field, and its not something that can be faked...

[BabyJesus]

What? Why would the masons claim now? Unless one or more was dead, I mean. Masons are my favorite role. You can claim when you need to in order to avoid a lynch and no one can counter claim, and they aren't powerful enough that the mafia really care about killing them, until later when their block vote is powerful. But why claim early?

-JEEP

we narrow the field that the bg's can hide in, and as bb said, its not a powerful enough role to necessarily draw fire...not to mention being out in the open risks getting protected if they get targeted for death. Also narrows the field for our vigilante.

[BabyJesus]

BJ, as Blackberry said, it also narrows the field for the bad guys to find the power roles.

-JEEP

Considering we only have 4 townies this game, I think that's gonna happen anyway. Normally I might agree.....not so much in this one And it ALSO narrows the search for them to kill each other off if they avoid the masons.

[BabyJesus]

If this were a regular game, I would not be voting for you.

If roles could be found at night, I would not be voting for you.

But since roles can be lost at night, if you aren't confirmed and are lying then you are given a free ride for the rest of the game with no chance of counterclaim.

I cannot let that happen.

And no, I don't FULLY believe you. If you like diagrams, here is one:

X -----------------O----------C-- Y
I don't believe.......................I believe

O is where I am.
C is where you would have to be for me to not vote you in this game, where the rules are much different from other games.

Once again, I would not be voting for you if roles could be found out at night.

seriously, I can't wait to use this flawwed logic against you when we are about to lynch you and you fake a claim....


WE DON'T LYNCH A CLAIMED ANGEL ON DAY FREAKING ONE.

[BabyJesus]

But w/o a counterclaim, you are cleared. So tell people to get on the StD wagon and let's get to night already!

-JEEP

am I the only one who sees the problem here?

Although I think Hezlucky is scum, we now have viking who is pretty much confirmed non-mason. So I'm on board with running him up.

unvote, vote viking

[BabyJesus]

As mentioned above, I think prodding of people/replacing is necessary for certain people- Pariah, MOS, etc, that I mentioned in an earlier post. I don't want these people to fly under the radar for nonposting.

Why are you harmless, Blackberry? Assuming you're telling the truth, you're confirmed. It's in the interest of scum to kill everyone who claims a power role like mason, regardless of whether they're telling the truth-either that person is scum or a valuable role. As a mason (assuming you're telling the truth), you know 2 other people who are innocent. Thus, if you tell who they are, the scum will go after them as well to clear off people.

Only a few people here are going along with your line of reasoning regarding claims-jeep and others like lucky agree with me. Don't assume you're the majority-we've got 5 people right now who aren't posting. Right now, I don't buy your line of thinking regarding claims at all.

Hi vikingfan,

We are lyching you today. Care to make last words? tia.

-B

[BabyJesus]

Hi vikingfan,

We are lyching you today. Care to make last words? tia.

-B

??? What the heck are you talking about? I've only got 2 votes, not even close to 12.

NP, just letting you know in advance so you can get your role fake prepared

[BabyJesus]

You don't lynch a claimed cop just because "omg lyk we have 2 lynhc sum1!!!!one!1". That's silly.

oddly enough I agree with roland....this is stupid. Right now we have roland who is confirmed as not a mason...which in my mind gives him a greater chance of being scum then another random runup.

We'll sort out STD later, seriously on day one we don;t need to take a chance on lynching a claimed angel. Later on, sure, not this early though.

[BabyJesus]

odd that the werewolves would not have killed the only person that could block their kills.....

vote dybeck

[BabyJesus]

I'm actually thinking about lynching BabyJesus today. He had some very inconsistent behavior yesterday. First he said I dispute this when STD tried to pull off his fake claim of being a mafia and confirmed his vote. Then he changed his mind and tried to protect STD. When I asked him why, he refused.

vote babyjesus

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And I agree- it's not good for the vig to get too trigger-happy.

seriously - if I were a scum-buddy of STD's and decided to come on strong to counter STD, I wouldn;t have backed off. The "I dispute" thing was me screwing with STD because he screwed me over in another game. I backed off because I certainly wasn't the angel and didn't want screwing around with him to kill off a power role if he was truthful.

[BabyJesus]

is dybeck dead yet?

[BabyJesus]

vote maximumum

[BabyJesus]

huh, I thought I had replied.

Anyway, on the bookie action - I think an investigation is better then reviving jeep.

Investigation - Worst case - a confirmed townie, Best case - We nail another scum.
Revive Jeep - Best case - confirmed townie in jeep.

[BabyJesus]

Can we focus onn lynching Maximumum pls??

[BabyJesus]

Half way to a lynch because I wanted to have my name cleared so I could continue with the game, how ironic.
I could claim if everyone would like....then we will have something else fun to discuss.

go ahead Judas.

[BabyJesus]

lets just lynch Maximum and move on....

[BabyJesus]

Don't you think it's going to look really bad when/if I'm lynched and it's found out I'm innocent?

you seriously think I care?

[BabyJesus]

unvote, vote assasin

[BabyJesus]

unvote, vote sapphire

[BabyJesus]

MAYHAPS A PROD WOULD BE IN ORDER, MISTER MOD?

why bother, not like we'll believe her roleclaim. Lets just finish her.

[BabyJesus]

vikingfan clearly to me is a bad guy- why is no one else voting him?

skimmer, SapphireVerde is the play today

[BabyJesus]

Vikingfan is a solid choice for a mayor kill.

[BabyJesus]

Vikingfan is a solid choice for a mayor kill.

Why? Please explain.

you are on the list

[BabyJesus]

Anyone up for a mass claim?

Astronaut ~ ????
BabyJesus ~ ???

Blackberry ~ mason

Enigma91 ~ ????

Fritzler ~ civilian

Iammars ~ ????

Maximumum ~ mayor

NanookTheWolf ~ ?????
PeaceBringer ~ ???
Puzzle ~ ????

rolandofthewhite ~ seer

Thesp ~ ???
Thoth ~ ????
vikingfan ~ ???

you need to use ??? for me? I thought it obvious....

[BabyJesus]

unvote, vote vikingfan

[BabyJesus]

May as well let him confirm himself by killing someone...

Unvote, vote IammArs

[BabyJesus]

lol...

ok,

unvote, vote Fritzler

We can let the real vig kill the false vig....

[BabyJesus]

HUGE FOS ON BABYJESUS

I say we lynch viking NOW. That way the vig could kill another target tonite. We have a guaranteed scum here, let's lynch him now. Possible Babyjesus suggested that just so he, as another scum, could survive a night without being killed by the vig??

If I was THAT worried about staying alive I would not have offered myself as a free lynch for the bookie....

[BabyJesus]

I am Spartacus.

[BabyJesus]

Unvote: Fritzler, Vote: vikingfan

[BabyJesus]

Mass claim now?? Unless someone makes a confirmable claim, I see little point to it. So many dead gg's, that a lot of false claims will be uncontested.

Still, 2 dead BG's really limit the numbers. All the werewolves are dead. One vampire left, and Saulus. (Assuming we would be told if Saulus was night killed) Might as well have everyone claim at this point.

[BabyJesus]

BTW BABYJESUS, the vampire is dead.

yea, sorry, I meant "mafia".

[BabyJesus]

Hi vikingfan,

We are lyching you today. Care to make last words? tia.

-B

??? What the heck are you talking about? I've only got 2 votes, not even close to 12.

NP, just letting you know in advance so you can get your role fake prepared

this exchange is very funny in hindsight.

[BabyJesus]

Let's see... anyone want to play a game? Complete the statement:

I think PB is a/an/the cornholer.

[BabyJesus]

I claim ninja.

[BabyJesus]

Do I really need to claim civilian?? I wouldn't have offered to be killed D2 if I wasn't.

[BabyJesus]

So BabyJesus claims civilian... heh... seriously doubt that, but ok.

lol.

[BabyJesus]

*Kisses BJ on the cheek*

judas, huh?

[BabyJesus]

Hello Michael, could you please clarify ?

sigh...

He's claiming archangel.

[BabyJesus]

After further investigation, I found more ummm, things in favor of my speculation. Once the last three claim I will post my speculation on last mafia and on potential-mafia (Judas/Salus)

you're a smart guy....

[BabyJesus]

Just wanted to be sure...

Vote Inhim

.

are you disputing....

[BabyJesus]

I dispute this !

Yeah, and I think that if he is the Mafia, the last changer is BJ. Else, BJ is innocent.

I agree with the BJ being innocent part....

[BabyJesus]

unvote, vote inhim

[BabyJesus]

[BabyJesus]

I see. I was afraid that there would be an actual other Archangel. It's time for a complete roleclaim then.

As mentioned before, I'm Michael, not exactly the Archangel that Cadmium mentioned in the front post. I'm sure you're all thinking there's no way, you scum, of this being true. But, Cadmium does have a history of these odd Gambit-based roles. viewtopic.php?t=408 links to Cadmium's Convict Mafia, where you'll find the same situation I present (in regards to Leonidas and Corsato).

Here's my role, paraphrased as best as I can. Michael: I am an Archangel, but since I am the chiefest of Archangels, I have chosen to stay undetected by the town, and am therefore not on the opening list. Given my connection to the Bible, I know who Judas and Saulus are, and will be required to guide them through each Day. At night, I can choose to be the Guardian Angel of one of the two, and will protect them. As Michael, I have power over life. I do not bring people back from the dead, however; I send them to their deaths.

My win condition is sorry, though: I somehow was supposed to contact Gabriel during the night, and then he'd deliver the news of an Immaculate conception to the town's virgin, who would give birth (hoping that this game runs until December 25th) to the savior of this game. If I was successful in these endeavors, then I would win along with the town, as the game's savior would be a new player introduced to the game, and he'd have all the winning information.

My choices:
Enigma and I have guarded Thoth every Night. Coron was the Saulus. Neither of us have killed, in fear of killing the virgin, our only hope in this game.
Night 1, I found that Enigma had successfully contacted Gabriel - unbelievable, I know - Speedy.
Night 3, Enigma found that Gabriel had delivered the message to the town's virgin, and that the virgin had become pregnant. After reading this, I knew that stalling the game was of the essence. I propose we wait until Christmas to assure the town a victory.

However, I know you're not going to believe me, thinking this is some incredibly crazy Hail Mary, and you all will undoubtedly crucify whomever reveals themself as the game's savior, so I suggest he just remain silent and take his victory with the town in style.

after we lynch you to confirm this, it is good info.

[BabyJesus]

vote thoth

And you guys are dumb dumb voting me, if you seriously think I'm not a civilian, you're freaking morons.

[BabyJesus]

Actually,

unvote, vote roland

Like that one better.

[BabyJesus]

I say we resurrect thesp next, he can help speed this up by doubling our kills.

vote: bj

Game is over anyway. I thought the Saulus would give up today anyway. Yeah, I'll res. him tonight.

You'd think. If Saulus outs himself, he is lynched, resurrected on townie side, and WINS. I can't imagine why he wouldn;t.

[BabyJesus]

unvote, vote thoth

Back there - I think the most likely chance of being Saulus.

[BabyJesus]

BJ : If you're town, you can win even if you die, so just take one for the town if it's the case : that will get us closer to the Saulus.
I don't actually care who we lynch (in the reasonable range). Catching the Saulus is just a matter of time.

Its fine...just don;t be shocked when I come up townie. If I'm Saulus, believe me, I'd admit it, so I get ynched, turned, and win.

[BabyJesus]

Yea, I agree that thoth is likely saulus. However, I'd rather have thesp vig him, (so he doesn't take up two lynches if he's telling the truth).

so you're voting for someone you think is a townie?

odd.....

[BabyJesus]

unvote, vote fritzler

that makes NO sense.

[BabyJesus]

fine, vote PB

Not convinced its the right play though.

[BabyJesus]

I love this setup. Let's play again!

sucks to be one of the few townies though....

[BabyJesus]

Because BabyJesus has to be some sort of vigilante or he feels cheated.

:goodposting: