Mafia 37: Werewolves - Game over!
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So the werewolves have gotten our protector and our cop and we've lynched a townie as well. 19 left alive and all of the mafia are among them. All we have so far is some overreaction and speculation. This could be a silly question, but can each of the voters state exactly why they are voting for the person they are voting for? The votees don't have to defend themselves at this point, I just want to see everyone's reasoning.-
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In what little experience I have, when a mafia is targeted, they seem to immediately go into some long spiel about why player X who is never on to defend themself is scummy. Does esme fit this profile? Yes. Am I happy that we seem ready to lynch a claimed cop? NO! We need to look at others and try to get some info before we kill off ever power role we have. Beyond esme, is there anyone else people would like some answers from? The only other mafia profile I have is that mafia who are not being targeted tend to flail about in all directions and generally cause nothing but chaos, and mafia who have managed to pass themselves off as townies target middle-to-good players with questionable voting. My current thoughts on mafia are that esme has a fair to good chance of being mafia, milkman has a fair to good chance of being mafia, and Locus has a fair to low chance of being mafia. That's all I've got for now. Only because I want to hear what he has to say,VOTE milkman-
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Sorry, I was thinking about Dranko's claim while typing. I meant claimed role for esme. I would still like to hear suspicions about others before we make a lynch though.
Mafia do indeed post in spurts, so do people who work 40 hours a week and take summer classes
So we have milkman wiating to hear from coron and nonchalance, anyone else with suspicions? I am an empty glass, fill me with knowledge.
I don't know anyone on this board yet, so I have no idea what anyone normally play like. Until I start picking up your habits, I can only go with the flow and make the days lat as long as possible so I can learn them.-
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@whoever is FOS-ing me I am lurking because I have absolutely nothing to contribute at this time. I don't know any of you so I can't make any judgements about your playing styles, and I have no real game info beyond knowing that lots of townies are dead. What would you like me to post?
I'll take a page from Pooky
I am so stupid,
I am so dumb,
I am a sitting duck.
I had an itch I could not reach;
I scratched it, now I'm stuck.
If I had to make a judgement call, I would say nonchalance looks scummy right now, but that just a gut hunch with absolutely no grounds.
If someone would actually state their reasons in black and white for voting, maybe I would vote, but I hate voting for the sake of voting. You inevitably end up voting for a townie, and a scum points it out later and gets you lynched.-
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@d_rouge- hows the cornhole, buddy?
@everyone- sorry, posting is sporadic at best for me between work and classes, but we definitely need more conversation going on here. Wasn't nonchalance on the chopping block at some point in the last 2 days? I don't think he ever got close enough to lynch for it to be much good, but I'll take a look later and see what I can see.-
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that seems like the perfect claim for a scum, you know?
1- I come up guilty because I'm a werewolf. (don't have to worry about a cop now)
2- My lover is also town. (don't want to kill 2 townies do you?)
3- I don't kill humans. (so you don't have to fear me.)
4- Werewolves can't kill me. (so I'm basically a self-protecting vanilla townie)
does that about sum it up? are you immune to ALL night kills, or just wolves? (this is assuming we have a vig around)-
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well, I guess he has a point there. It would be worth it to keep Pooky around to do some sanity testing. The good news for us is that the werewolves can't kill him directly so as long as the lover stays hidden we don't have to waste any doc protection we might have.
**crosses fingers and prays we still have a doc of some kind**-
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1. What is Wine In Front Of Me???
2. My post was thinking more along the lines of "Another Mafia game i won't live to see the end of."
3. @Phoebus- my reaction? Would you not call us dead men? If the wolves don't kill us tonight, you'll kill us tomorrow (wasting another lynch).
4. The way I see it, there are 15 players left, 4 of whom are probably wolves, leaving 11 townies. we have no clear suspects at this point so going by the odds we will mis-lynch today and be down to 10. tonight, the wolves kill someone besides me, and tomorrow we are down to 9. seeing that Pooky and I are alive tomorrow, you lynch one of us and the other bites the dust leaving you with 7. That night the wolves kill again and you wake up with the wonderful news that it is 6 townies vs. 4 wolves and pray you don't mis-lynch again, or that's game.
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Did we not read my last post??
At least point out where my logic is faulty before you kill us.draygn_mage wrote:4. The way I see it, there are 15 players left, 4 of whom are probably wolves, leaving 11 townies. we have no clear suspects at this point so going by the odds we will mis-lynch today and be down to 10. tonight, the wolves kill someone besides me, and tomorrow we are down to 9. seeing that Pooky and I are alive tomorrow, you lynch one of us and the other bites the dust leaving you with 7. That night the wolves kill again and you wake up with the wonderful news that it is 6 townies vs. 4 wolves and pray you don't mis-lynch again, or that's game.
Any faults in my logic?
I KNEW that Pooky was my lover. I didn't know that he was a wolf. There was no part of my PM that said I would die a day later, I die at dawn, I thought.-
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I would agree with that statement if Pooky had been under pressure of ANY kind when he came forward, but he wasn't. This clearly helps the town more than the mafia as we have given you a way to test the cop. If this was a mafia gambit, I would have claimed that one of us was human and the other was a wolf and make the town use up 2 investigations to get us both, or at least leave a way out.-
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If this was a mafia gambit, yes, the ideal play by me would be to claim to know nothing about a lover and let you lynch him. This would give me the perfect alibi (as close to counter claiming someone as you can get in this game).
I was still hesitant to confess to being Pooky's lover as he claimed to be a wolf. Technically, I'm dead no matter what I do, so I might as well tell the truth and let everyone know that we are lovers.
Aside from that, i am a vanilla townie, so if I am the lynch today or tomorrow, so be it (provided you really think Pooky is mafia). If not, at least make the mafia waste a night kill to get rid of us.-
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Actually, yeah, I was trying to distance myself. I have never played this part before and it wasn't like I can talk to Pooky at night and try to figure anything out, so I figured my best bet was to act surprised and hope no-one ever came to the conlusion that we were together. This way, I could watch a band-wagon happen on either of us and come forward to claim before the lynch happened. Pooky sort of shot that idea in the head though.-
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speaking as the condemned here, doesn't it seem a bit weird that nanook has desided to not only vote for Pooky, but is getting out to push the bandwagon instead of letting people make their own decisions. Personally, if the town doesn't kill Pooky, then the mafia kills me to kill Pooky. I end up dead regardless. I just think that the town should let the mafia waste a kill before you do their dirty work for them. If Pooky was mafia, there would have been NO NEED for a gambit, let alone one that is admittedly retarded. When Pooky came forward, he was not under any duress to do so, and was in NO danger of being investigated that night.
The question is this... would a mafia commit suicide just to take a vanilla townie (me) with them? No. Would a mafia give as many shoves as possible to the bandwagonning of 2 townies to give them a 3 for none? You betcha.
unvote Save The Dragonsnever did like voting for my own kind anyway.
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From what Pooky has said, he is a werewolf who is town-aligned. Due to the fact that he IS a werewolf, he should still read mafia to a cop. In other words he turned his back on the mafia, but still carries their past/taint/etc. He claimed to have immunity to wolve's night kills, but can still be vigged or lynched. The only way the the wolves could kill him is to kill me and cause him to commit suicide.-
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@ Nanook- he NEVER said he wasn't a werewolf! READ the thread. He is a town-allied werewolf. He already stated this right after his inital claim to being a werewolf. The proof that he is town is that mafia don't normally take unnecessary risks as they have way less players to lose. The fact that Pooky came out AS A WEREWOLF is a good case for him being townie. The fact that he did so to test the cop's naivete is a BETTER case for him being townie. If everyone thought that Dranko was naive (which we did) WHY would the mafia do anything to stop that belief??? Would it not suit their ends to let everyone think he was just a normal cop and clear some of them?? Basically, you are voting Pooky with no logic backing your vote. That is why I am voting you. Hopefully others will realize this and start looking at the people (you included) who were pushing the Pooky bandwagon for all it was worth AGAINST logic.-
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@ werebear- HUH? I voted you for stated reasons. What is hard to get about the draygn-pooky link? Pooky is a werewolf who turned on his kind to be with me (a villager). Since pooky is a werewolf, he can't be killed by them. Since Pooky is my lover, if I die, he commits suicide. As long as I remained hidded and off the mafia hitlist, pooky was pretty much invulnerable.Disciple of AniX- Who needs scumdar when you play by smell?
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Instead of being childish and calling us names, have you thought to PM Flay and ask if that was an intentional change, or if it was just a typo on his part?
Was that all the PM stated- that you were changed into a "townie"?
Or, was there some other reason that the mod PM'd you and just happened to make reference to you as a townie?
That might get so conversation started (which of course you would contribute to) and we could all "get a read" on you.Disciple of AniX- Who needs scumdar when you play by smell?
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I don't really trust myself to vote anyone, but the only thing i have to go on really is the who jumped on the Pooky wagon. I gotta go find it, so give me a minute.Disciple of AniX- Who needs scumdar when you play by smell?
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actually, I made the first post then on a whim I went back to the very first few pages and looked around. I didn't get anything definite, but I did get a scummy vibe from STD's first posts. hence, my gut vote.
aw pooky, now I gotta get you dipped. who knows where he's been or what he's been rolling in?Disciple of AniX- Who needs scumdar when you play by smell?
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No one has said you weren't DEVOTED to a Peacebringer lynch, they just feel that you are scummy for it. If reason is your tool, who do you think we should lynch today? Don't tell us "where to look", dammit, vote for someone. That is how this game is played.Bamboomancer wrote:I supported a Peacebringer lynch for days, and stayed on it mostly out of respect for the fallen MoS. Everyone else has been jumping wagons and going after lurkers, I am one of the few who actually came out and tried to reason someone to being scum. Feel free to lynch me, because that'll be four mistakes in a row. Look at the MoS and the Coron bandwagons if you want your scum guys, how about the bandwagons that took all of A DAY to complete, huh? Why isn't ANYONE considering those?Disciple of AniX- Who needs scumdar when you play by smell?
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PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Uh, Dragyn can join us of course... I still need my lover after all
*huggles* I'm normal every other day of the month right?
Funny, that's what my wife says.
I was seriously going for the alternate win condition, but didn't think about how many wolves were left. Oops.
Werewolf MVP has to be Pooky.
Since I'm the only one left, do I get Village MVP?Disciple of AniX- Who needs scumdar when you play by smell?
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