NY 117: The Vanillaside (Game over)

[SpyreX]

I'm shouted out and recovering from the blow that is not being innocentized.

So maybe you'll get some grammar and whatnots from me.

And a

vote: SSBF

Too many letters.

[SpyreX]

Reck getting killed is a 1-1 PR loss any of which are fine.

Seriously why is this even being discussed?

[SpyreX]

I'm still trying to grasp the shocking bullet.

Although I have a tear in my eye at the number of townie vibes I get in these first few pages. Its almost enough for an alliance on page 4 my lord.

[SpyreX]

Ellli help me out here because I just want to slam 87 to the wall and kill it dead because stretchinggggggg

[SpyreX]

SSBF doesn't even strike me as all the scummy at the mo.

Regardless of that aside from twirling mustaches that 87 reads like some magnificent stretching.

Time for a crusade!

Unvote, Vote: DemonHybrid

[SpyreX]

While I still dont like DemonHybrid I think I know what has to happen here:

Anything intresting in the last 6 pages?
I am always down for a lynch on DH
Vote DemonHybrid

This is one of those single magnificent gems that is enough to go all the way live for.

We've got a pair of 3 people wagons up and, of course, the declaration of not reading anything and an immediate preference for one.

Which, of course is immediately followed up by a read and confirmation of vote.

Yea, this would be where the bullet goes. Or a rope.

Unvote, Vote: Vezo

@SpyreX: Elaborate on your town reads (talking about your second post here)?

I can't... yet. Soon, hopefully. Lets just say there's two types of games: games that get clouded in muck and games where the sifter starts showing beautiful town flowers right off the bat. This really looks like the latter half and that, good sir, is the kind of game I like.

[SpyreX]

Well then lets just lynch scum and that isn't a worry now is it?

THAT SAID: ELLIIIIIII

If nacho AND vezo are on your leftovers why nacho OVER vezo. Especially with some of the votes that jumped that way (MPR I'M LOOKIN AT YOU)

[SpyreX]

We can quibble about MPR later after others are dead.

I just loathe the "ohh I didn't read and happened to jump on a wagon for spurious reading and LO AND BEHOLD my reading justified my vote and now I go away again".

Loathe in the SCUMS BE HERE sense.

[SpyreX]

DEAR VIG:

REMEMBER THIS PAGE. I CAN SAY NO MORE. I BELIEVE IN YOU.

(P.S. we need to kill the redirector asap tia)

[SpyreX]

And with that said lets party hard on this wagon yeee-haw

[SpyreX]

Ohhh MPR the paranoia. The amazing paranoia you give right there.

I'm willing to let this settle for a bit while Soc does magic voodoo.

The emphasis is on a bit. Letting Jack come in would be good too.

[SpyreX]

Regardless of flip there is scum on this wagon fyi. Its just a question of 1 or 2.

LETS GET ER DONE

[SpyreX]

Awww yes Fate in the house wooo <3.

THAT SAID:

You know whats awesome? When I call a wagon as having scum on it (1 if v is scum, 2 if not) and what happens?

It scatters to the wind. Yessir that makes me happy all over.

(OHH SNAP BUS) I'd lynch SSBF, or DH. Sera is a lower target than others that I dont want to even get into at the moment.

HOWEVER, I am not stoked at all about the disintegration of that wagon on vezok and I want real explanations not 2scum4scumdaytalk.

That means you. All of you jumpers. I want answers.

[SpyreX]

I'll delve into this deeper when I'm not tired and buzzed BUT:

Throwing a vote down on the wagon(tm) and then after the fact justifying it with a "ohh wow my read synchs perfectly" isn't dumb. Its scummy.

And when I say there's scum on that wagon I was specific: 1 on if vez is scum, 2 on if not. Those, good sir, are good odds not OHH GOD EVERY WAGON IS SCUM'D. Further, with a little energon and a lot of luck I could, in fact, parse it beyond that sans flip.

Additionally, if I'm on is it dumb (yes) or is it scum (also yes) you've just joined the secret best gameshow:

IF VEZO IS A SCUM PR YOU GET TO BECOME THE DEAD! YAY!

(seriously there need be no case just quote this and lynch accordingly if I am right tia).

I mean watching the birds scatter doesn't raise an eyebrow anywhere? None?

[SpyreX]

Ohh Fate why you gotta be rollin' the hate here today.

(Pro tip - SSBF is the allusion I was talking to for vig way back when so if it ends up he takes rope thats cool).

For some reason I thought there was a Goon, alas. Of course that changes little and Vezok scum means a dead Soc. You will give this to me.

And YES A THOUSAND TIMES YES that vote is enough for me to want him lynched.

(And yes there still be some pro-town peeps but NO I don't think the winds are ripe for alliancin' it up. Yet.)

[SpyreX]

HOWEVER I WILL SAY that SSBF and Vezo are NOT scum together. Probably not DH either.

Sooo SSBF is extra fine.

[SpyreX]

Vezo pops up for the CC and NOTHING I SWEAR FFFFS

(this is a good tradeoff if he's faking btw)

[SpyreX]

Seriously SSBF isn't getting lynched without a CC. So, don't him and haw if its the truth and do it. POWER TO THE PEOPLE.

(Double hint if there is a CC and the CC is scum don't, DONT take that vig shot. Its an Ackbarian trap).

As for Vezok:

Just look at those first posts. Look at the after the fact. Then look at the nothing and lo and behold he's there to ask for the CC and give no input.

[SpyreX]

I'm gonna cry why is it SOO HARD AGAIN I AM GETTING FLASHBACKS.

Unvote, Vote: Seraphim

There I'm helping.

[SpyreX]

Maybe

No I get all kindsa tinfoil when I try to string someone up and I don't get "defenders" I just can't get the damn lynch to push through. IT MAKES HULK SMASH

[SpyreX]

At its highest:

vezokpiraka - 7 (SpyreX, Socrates, Seraphim, Ellibereth, Super Smash Bros Fan, Reckoner, MPR)

If Vezo is scum: Socrates.

If Vezo is town: SSBF. Seraphim/MPR.

Further, SSBF would make me real happy on Elli for town

[SpyreX]

Its already jammed when it comes to him and no one wants to help fix it.

NOOO CANT TOO HARD.

Actually, SSBF is an engima. When I look at the wagon SSBF makes sense. When I look at SSBF's posts, he doesn't make sense unless that is an absolutely sloppy bus.

I hate

[SpyreX]

(Double hint if there is a CC and the CC is scum don't, DONT take that vig shot. Its an Ackbarian trap).

Nevermind. I misread redirector (I was thinking inverse)

[SpyreX]

Because I don't feel like fighting that fight right now - Sera isn't a bastion of town I'm going to put on the armor and go to war for.

I'd much, MUCH rather lynch vezo and I still want answers from the jumpers but even moreso I want the game to progress forward.

[SpyreX]

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

Lets make things happen, murderin' things.

[SpyreX]

I was wrong. A lot yesterday. And I was vocal about it AND I'm really not going to fight this too much ESPECIALLY since until you see my flip NO ONE is going to take this serious.

Rayfrost is scum.
Why is he scum? Real simple. Sera wasn't an accident. Sera got daycopped. Ray

knew

that running Sera up would reveal another PR and took the power hammer because it was going to become apparent.

So, check that early wagon. That wasn't an accidental push on Sera. It was a scum one.

Seraphim - 2 (Korts, Jack). That's not a bad place to look.

Unvote, Vote: Rayfrost

[SpyreX]

ADDITIONALLY if I am right:

Lemme just say that I feel the scummiest people on the wagon are vezok, Jack, and MPR in that order.

One, maaaybe two of them are scum. I'd put money on one. To be a REBEL I'd say its Jack versus the others (that and it ties in with the other piece of that wagon)

[SpyreX]

Be pissed frankly it doesn't matter. Like I said my theory isn't going to be bought until I flip and I REALLY don't have the energy to fight it tooth and nail.

I'd prefer to not risk outing a second PR.

Vezo lynch plz.

Vote: vezo

So my argument with vezo is 1. already claimed vanilla, so no risk of outing a PR

I would like to request that you don't claim for the time being. I feel that the wagon is not appropriate, and I think that your claim is the goal of the more shameless wagoners (aka scum).

Why do you want him to claim and risk outing a second PR on d1 when we have quite obv claimed non-PR scum in vezo, again?

This is what made me go huh, especially in rereading. There's way, way too much emphasis on a PR and, if Sera WAS Daycopped, they have every reason to keep him alive. But, stretched too far with daytalk its not a longshot to think teammates went "Hey, you done screwed up, we need this lynch through before they realize you know he's a PR".

Interestingly enough OHH SHI IIOA looking at how these three scum roles interact there's a massive incentive (aside from the normal) for them to not get lynched - The Role-Cop dying means the redirector is useless unless they throw the godfather into the Reckmaw which loses daytalk. I'd be surprised to see heavy bussing anywhere D1 at all. Which means, of course, vezo and RF aren't scum together.

Aside from this mess I'm STILL not a fan of vezo, DH and add to that MPR. Kort's focus on reasons to or not to lynch reck makes me itch - and the defense of vezo could be a nice trigger. Jack of the pair makes more sense if RF is scum considering the setup.

But, again, all this is gonna be eye rolling and whatever until there's a flip so do it. I was wrong d1 and came out with a theory I KNEW wasn't going to gain traction as it sat soo feed the beast.

[SpyreX]

Pffffttt Fate knows I'd never ever kill him I love him too much even if I could.

I really, really, really like Soc's 447. In that deep belly rubbing way.

[SpyreX]

HEY SPYREX I LIKE IT WHEN YOU ARE SCUM AND ACT LIKE IT INSTEAD OF APPEALING TO MY BRO<3 SIDE AND TRYING TO CONVINCE ME YOURE TOWN.

CONTINUE TO IGNORE THE CASES PRESENTED AGAINST YOU PL0X.

BTW SOCRATES #447 IS BULLSHIT BECAUSE SOCRATES LOVES BEIN SCUM+META ANECDOTES TO DEFEND PEOPLE=
JACK
SPY
KORTS
SOC

WTF 4MAN SCUMTEAM?

RAYFROST KORTS BETTER FLIP RED.

What case?

That I was wrong? Yea, I admit that. I even said I'm not going to fight it all that much.
That my theory isn't going to get much traction until there's a flip? Yea, I said that too.

And, of everything in Soc's post that I liked him saying I'm not scum is the LEAST important. That is very similar to an about to be lynched post and reads honest.

Vezo still needs to be the dead. Korts needs to get on the offensive or become the dead.

[SpyreX]

THAT YOU WANTED VEZO "DEAD DEADDEAD" AND WHEN RAYFROST AND I TRIED TO MAKE THAT SHIT HAPPEN YOU WAZ LIKE "NAH ILL SIT PRETTY ON THE VIGS FUCKIN WAGON"

ALSO YOUR "OH HAI KORTS IS SCUM D SCUM AND SO IS VEZO" BUT "ILL SIT HERE ON THE ROLE-COP GAMBIT THEORYZ VOTE" MEANS

You mean that last effort that started to swing and then got killed in the face when reck swung nacho back AND you said you'd hammer?

Yea I'd have been for a vezo lynch

if I thought it was possible

and I even said so. Sera dropping off the face of the earth sure doesn't make me want to jump all over that.

I STILL PERSONALLY THINK RAY IS GONNA FLIP SCUM YO AS WELL BUT IT WONT HAPPEN TODAY SO

I've also apparently missed some huge drama? which is sweet.

[SpyreX]

Do what you gotta do. Just don't be surprised when I flip exactly what I do - and no amount of hate filled letter the next day saying its my fault this went down is gonna change it.

If there was any actual chance of Vezo getting lynched I would have been all for it. Go back and REALLY look and tell me that could have happened.

As an aside or a last will and testament I want to know what the hell game you crazies are talking about.

[SpyreX]

I STILL WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

GIVE ME THIS.

SET ME FREE.

And look, real, real close at this wagon. Because good lord the freaks come out at night.

[SpyreX]

So you're still telling me there was more than a pigs chance in hell of that lynch going through? Because if there REALLY was then sure you can string me up for it but its not there.

I was pissed that wagon disintegrated and it was pretty clear it wasn't coming back. It STILL needs to happen.

But here, you know what?

You can have it. Take my vote for the day. I'll even put it on me if you want. JUST GET THIS GAME MOVING

[SpyreX]

Swear all you want mr.

Under the vote clause of 2010

Unvote, Vote: Korts

You know we COULD lynch Vezo today that'd be swimming

[SpyreX]

Fate I am stealing my vote back. TOO BAD

I am glad you replaced in and that was a solid post. I've been off my game but you are absolutely right that MPR has been all over Vezo this game - which is a huge point in an MPR lynch over Vezo regardless of Vezo's alignment however, still, your arguments seem to favor Vezo as a more solid scum pick. Is there something else I'm missing?

Regardless both are good.

Unvote, Vote: MPR

[SpyreX]

RC I did read your post FTR and I think SpyreX is still WAY too high on your town above town list. I mean DH is more townie than him and VV hasn't been dead weight stupid yet has he>

I know you WANT me to be scum yo but you KNOW I'm not sure stop fighting it.

[SpyreX]

Its dead in here.

I apologize for not sticking to my ultra-guns about vezo D1 because this has gone off the ridiculous meter.

[SpyreX]

YESSIR

Unvote, Vote: Vezo

[SpyreX]

SpyreX, what the hell? You're responding to people pushing a lynch on you with "lynch me if you want, I'll flip town and you'll be wrong"? What? TownSpy goes down with a FUCKING BANG if he goes down at all, and makes everyone feel like idiots for even entertaining the thought that Spy might be scum... WHERE ARE THE TEETH, SPY?

Sera flipping vig killed my soul. I ADMIT IT.

I am toothless and in a position where, realistically, I'm going to be a constant source of doubt which makes both pushing anything I'm trying to get done harder to do AND every stupid day there's gonna be a "OHH SNAP SPYREX F--" which saps precious energy.

So, if taking the bullet puts things back on track I'm for it. IF IT DOESNT THOUGH

[SpyreX]

Protip: when part of your meta is "I dont ever get NK'd" then meta, even retarded as it is, is trying to tell you something useful.

Vezo needs to die. You need to die. You dont even get "You are scum." you get you need to die. You don't get reasons.

[SpyreX]

Naaachooooo

No. Go read again.

Unvote, Vote MPR

[SpyreX]

Nacho what are you on?

You went "he's playing better" and I said swing and a miss try again. Because it's not there.

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS AND IT HAPPENS SOON:

Vezo, MPR, SpyreX.

One of these dies today.
Another dies tomorrow.

Pick. One can't live while the others survive.

[SpyreX]

Damnit all.

NO.

Its happening again.

IT CANT HAPPEN AGAIN:

Unvote, Vote: Vezo

Jack is a sack of failurepotatoes but that doesn't CHANGE THIS ONE BIT COME ON NOW.

[SpyreX]

Seriously what are you all playing at its mylo ffs.

Gunsmith if you have useful results you need to come out.

Jesus.

[SpyreX]

I CONCUR BUT HIM BEING TOWN WOULD BE PAR FOR THE COURSE

ACTUALLY HIM BEING GUNSMITH WITH NO NIGHT ACTIONS EVER WOULD BE PAR

REGARDLESS LETS DO THIS RIGHT

[SpyreX]

I know the perfect ending to this game.

THE PERFECT ONE.

JUST YOU WAIT

PREVIEW: JESUS IT WAS READILY APPARENT EONS AGO I WAS VANILLA MY LORD MAN

[SpyreX]

THIS IS WHERE THE GUNSMITH CLAIMS AND HAS AN INNOCENT ON ME AND THE PLANS ARE RUINED.

RITE

[SpyreX]

Guts and guts and might.

I'm really hopin we get us a cleansmith all up ins with some actual real boy results because OTHERWISE.

Of course, considering this game, they targeted Reck n1 JUST TO BE SURE.

[SpyreX]

I doubt DH is a GF - that bus doesn't make a lot of sense.

Which means it's Elli.

Which means I'm going to get to try to convince DH of such.

(Yes, this is assuming Jack is scum because welll)

F---

[SpyreX]

Ohhhhh SNAP

[SpyreX]

It never even occurred to me for a second that the flip would say vanilla.

If I had any inkling you were gone versus just avoiding the game that would have played out differently D1.

This game. Good lord.

It is a solid setup, I'll give it that.

[SpyreX]

It was just wonkus enough that there COULD have been something going on - notice I hadn't voted for nacho yet either.

The Sera lynch was bad, sure. But the other two?

Sorry, can't win against 5 scum.

[SpyreX]

I'm not gonna give the other scum MAD PROPS for their play but you, RC, definite kudos.