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First of, basic protocal states that I should alert you that this account is being used as a hydra, heads will be revealed later. Unfortunatly I haven't had a chance to have a real discussion with Head one about the game yet hopefully I can catch him online very soon.
With the number of night-kills being so low it's safe to assume that there's just one scum-team and likely no serial killer, as for what delayed vig is I would tend to agree with Mastin, the kill will likely occur in twilight today.
Gorilla is indeed town, so is Deity however claiming then wasn't a good idea. Jailkeeper is a strong role late game, early game it's slightly useless, especially out in the open. I'm attempting to process Mastins posts as I'm yet to attain a read on him.
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I don't understand the logic behind openely stating your experience or knowledge of other players playstyles. It allows them to instantly know that they may need to amend certain parts of their scum-play to avoid detection reducing the effectiveness and usefulness of the meta knowledge you may have of them.
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If I was attempting to hide information I wouldn't have stated this was a hydra nor would I have stated that I will release the head names later. So again I ask you, in what way is delaying the outting of my heads anti-town.
Not being protown isn't validation for a vote whatsoever, if that were the case Deitys JK claim would lead towards a reasonable vote because him instantly outting his claim is certaintly not protown. You're attempting to ignore all other occurances in the thread and push validation for your vote when the truth of the matter is there is none.-
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The logic you're attempting to present is withholding of information isn't pro-town therefore it's anti-town when that's not the case at all.
On top of that you recognize the fact that our heads will be outted at some point however continue to be contempt with your vote. If you really believed information was pro-town and essential you would be asking what our reasoning for not instantly declaring them is, in which case I would respond saying that I haven't spoken with Head One yet therefore don't know if he wants to be publically known.
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@Deity
Claiming this early on was a bad move- but I suspect you know that already, so we'll move on.
I almost didn't knowwhyyoudidclaim until I re-read a couple posts back and saw that you had asked Mastin if he did anything last night.
Is it safe to assume that you targeted him last night? And if so, why?
^NVM. I just saw post 14.
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@Mastin
I played three games, replaced in two, simply because that was a bad time for me, and was unable to play to my fullest despite only playing one or two games at a time... sucks, but there you go. I won't replace out of this one, though.
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@Scott-1
I've seen this before, a couple of times; where someone asks the hydra to 'headclaim' on grounds that hiding said information is Anti-Town.
I don't think I need to state that each of those times, said person wanting said information was scum.
So Scott, are you Scum?
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@Hikari
What did we do?
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Mastin wrote:I know it instinctively.
Hint: it's something I'm quite fond of.
Know what instinctively exactly?
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@Mana_Ku
And you feel the need to BW without a reason... why exactly?
It looks to me like your sheeping to Scott on this, but I may be missing something sublime here. I just don't know yet.
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@Scott-2
Again with this head-claiming crap?
The only thing you'll get from a heads-reveal is Meta- and that's not good enough a reason for doing so, because Meta is shit mostly. You should be worried more about what we do in this game, then what we did in other games.
But that's just me. -shrug-
Like my other head stated, we weren't going to hide the fact that we were a hydra- mostly because it would have becomereallyobvious after awhile anyways. So yeah. And it's not like wearen'tgoing to tell who we are- its just going to be after-game or late latelatein the game, when we do-
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I personally disagree with head one. I believe meta is a valuable and strong tool which is why I do plan on releasing my head before the close of today, I'd appreciate if we heard no more about who our heads are until then.
Mastin, is your reasoning behind believing that there's 1-2 scum in the early posters because you believe mafia are much more likely to pay attention towards the game in a late start such as this and thus be likely to post instantly, because that's something that has popped in my head however it's not a reliable enough tell to pursue. Also people posting about spectators viewing the thread is actually one of the things that annoy me the most, don't get me wrong lurker prodding and pressuring is a very crucial part to the game but this early in the game you just need to stand back and let natural play occur.
Ranmaru, I've viewed some of your games and I have a fairly good idea of your playstyle. I'm going to recommend that you attempt to keep all your thoughts in one post, or at least in an organised fashion otherwise this is going to get frustrating very, very quickly.
Manu_Ku, if you don't mind can you state what issue you currently have with us so we can address it and actually move on to productive play.
I can't quite explain it, but Manu's lack of reasoning actually reads as town, I believe she would have put forward some shotty reasoning to avoid being in the limelight as scum. Not feeling the same way about Scott though, he states that the only reasoning behind his vote on us is that nothing else scummy has occured and then turns around and states that his vote will remain on us until we release our heads.
Vote: Scotty
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Ranamru just a hint, attempt to cut out bits you're not actually addressing in the quote and you don't always need to quote someone to respond to them. In what way do you believe I'm being hypocritical? I do believe meta is a strong tool therefore when I have knowledge of a player I attempt to use it, either to attain a read or offer advice. I can't speak for head one, but my reasoning for not instantly outting my head isn't so that people can't meta me, if so I would be refusing to out it fullstop. I merely want to observe peoples play without them knowing exactly what information I may have on them.
Kublai, do you have any early reads?
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Ranmaru wrote:1.What do you think about Khan's policy lynch idea?
2.What do you think about Hiraki so far?
3.Do you think Mastin's master plan was an RVS joke?
1.I dislike the concept of policy lynching altogether. I'm reasonably sure that Khan was joking when he suggested it.
2.Nothing note-worthy to say about his play. It's a little lacking in content but that's normal for his early game play.
3.I don't see a master plan.
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Scott, I will allow head one to answer your question regarding references to games in which scum pushed on a secret hydra however I still would like for you to answer why you never once thought to ask us our reasoning for not revealing our heads.
Mastin, the person that posted the long wall and the smiley is head one, that's his only post thus far and from previous knowledge that's not how he generally posts. Can you explain your newb-town read on Silver, I'm having trouble seeing it.
Ranmaru, have you ever been scum in a completed forum mafia game, either here or at an alternate site? If so can you provide the link to the game.
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There's no point having a debate over the definition of words such as anti-town and scummy, if you're unsure what they mean go read the wiki.
Ranmaru, asking questions such as what's your reads on x, y and z without following up on what exactly led to those reads or refraining from commenting on them yourself leads nowhere and really is a pointless line of questioning to take. On top of that there's no reason to interrogate DeityKabuto this early on when he's almost certaintly town.
Khan, no offence but I care not for your previous issues with Mastin therefore I request that you two deal with your personal hatred for each other in private messages and not let it effect the game. I believe I've asked this already however I'll restate it on the off-chance you skimmed my previous post, what are your thoughts on everyone thus far?
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I understand that his post wasn't entirely personal but he was pre-emptively attempting to defend a meta related case from Mastin when it wasn't needed. If Mastins case revolves around terribad logic such as Khan was scum in the past therefore he's scum here no one will follow it to begin with.
I got to about page thirteen of the game you linked and was unable to draw any comparison from it to your play this game or any of your previous games though I believe that's mostly due to it being your first game ever rather than anything else.
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@Scott
>.<
I could only find the one that I played in, the other that I was watching is being a bitch to find within the mass of bookmarks that I have attained over the years.
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 46&start=0
Have at it- you only need to look through day 1. I believe, if memory serves, that the Traitor made a big fuss about it. I seem to remember a cult doing so as well.
Anyways- migraine central after that, but brb with more.
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Scott Brosius wrote: I do not see a pro-town reason for not revealing your heads. Therefore asking would be futile. Why can't you reference the games? You were the one who brought it up.
So you believe that there is a difference between there being no-protown reason for witholding our heads and there being anti-town reasons. Wouldn't your natural instinct be to work out which ours is? Head One brought up the referenced games thus I left it to him to respond to. Considering both of our posting styles are very different this shows that you're not paying attention to our posts even though we're your leading suspect.
On a slightly relevant note, I accidently posted with this account in a game on my main account meaning there's no reason not to release my head at the moment. I'm Regfan but I've also played on Duplicity and Soben.
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I have played with Empking before, in Mini 1156, his play was atrocious. His reads were very far of yet he would continue to aggresively push them without adding any reasoning behind them. I had a conversation with Head One not too longer ago discussing the implications of Empkings death and we agreed that it was likely due to players with no experience with him seeing his join date and viewing him as a good kill candidate.
Mastin2, I don't understand the constant desire you have to attack Khans posting, as he himself mentioned his reads weren't an attempt to 'Look town' merely an attempt to meet my request. Though I do agree with your Silver town-read and your Winger one to an extent as well.
Silver, just because you have a reputation or history posting low quality posts doesn't mean that you should continue to do so, I want three FoS's from you with reasoning attached.
Khan, my gorilla town-read comes mainly from his first post stating he had to go re-check his role PM, it reads as geninue and I'm willing to bet that mafia were talking in their QT throughout the night meaning I don't see any possible way he would forget his role as scum.
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I told myself I refuse to do another wall D1, but fate isn't as kind as I want it too.
...Fate can go suck it, though. Through a rusty, flimsy straw.
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Hiraki wrote:Skyquiem. Are you honestly a hydra?
Of course we are...
Are you even reading?
Although that might be a jab at me not posting as much as my other head, so I'll give you that much. >.>
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Mastin continues to read to me as 'TL;DR' that continues to come off as Town, strangely enough.
I do not get Ranmaru's game. What's he after?
Why, oh why does Mana_Ku still continues to not give reasoning behind her/his votes... mind readers none of us are, maam/sir.
Agreeing with my other head on Gorilla being Town- it just oozes from him like smelt gold. So why are there votes on him?
Rising Phoenix feels Town to me as well- good reasoning and all that.
Oh god... please no more walls Mastin... Please? You ramble worse then me on a good day- add piles of words onto that and you get a disaster. Not looking forward to it >.>
Hikari- why the double-same votes in the same exact post? made no sense whatsoever to me. At all.
I am facepalming at the VT claim by silver... why after just 2 votes indeed.
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Kublai Khan wrote:Skyquiem - Ugh. Hydra. Your schizophrenic mystery posting makes you a very tough read. Head Two is clearly scummier than Head One. But I'm basing that on just generic tells.
By which head do you mean here?
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[winger] wrote:Actually, KK, that's pretty accurate. I'm just waiting for someone to do something scummy, then pounce on them.
Really...?
Makes a whole lot of sense to me. Yep!
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@Scott
Glad my search was not in vain then...
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This thread needs more InHim and Reya(And me coincidentally enough... but I'll be fixing that after this post: Hopefully...)
And I am caught up!
Yaaaaaaaay.... Yeah no one cares >.>-
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mastin2 wrote:
Eh? What're you saying, here?Sky wrote:Mastin continues to read to me as 'TL;DR'
I do short posts? (If true, then a miracle has occured! )
I do too long of posts? (D'oh!)
You think I'm skimming your posts? (Due to being busy. :/)
Kinda ambiguous.
Hope this makes sense. I'm kinda exhausted right now. (Not looking forward to all the work I have yet to do. >_<)
Meaning you make too long of posts most times for me- I basically just skim them for the important bits now, because TL;DR...
Also, I think we'll be able to manage...
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kublai wrote:Um.. I don't understand the question. Since RegFan is Head Two, you must be Head One, right?
The question was more along the lines of- why do you consider Regfan more scummy then me.
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Do tell.
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Anyways, all of this talk is all well and good.
But why am I not seeing people going past the 3 vote mark?
By what I've been reading, what with everyone's suspicions and all, someone should have already by now.
So where exactly is the pressure?
What's with all the weak mamby pamby shit??
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Welcome Slaxx, really glad you replaced in, that slot needed activity badly.
I agree with head ones vote. It was something I brought up in our QT awhile ago and was actually the reason I was asking Ranamaru for his previous scum games. His play this game seems excessively fluffy in comparison to his completed town games on this site. Even when I pointed out the questions were leading nowhere and unproductive he continued doing so which reeks of scum not knowing how to make active posts without redirecting attention elsewhere.
Silver, you stated Deity is one of your strongest FoS's in the game, does that you don't believe his claim? JK is a highly common role thus why would scum claim a role that could lead to a potential counter-claim and them being lynched this early into the game?
Mastin, you stated earlier that you had a town-read on Ranamaru, what was it based upon and how has it changed?
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mastin2 wrote:Also.
I dislike the speed of the Ranmaru Wagon. Three Votes In a little over One Page? Seems too fast to be on scum.
Dude...stop freaking out over nothing.
It's D-1, 11 pages in, and a 8 lynch threshold.
3 votes is not something to sneeze at.
Your concern would be legitimate if ranmaru got upped to L2 or L1 in under a page, but he hasn't.
He only got 2 votes in that amount of time.
Your freaking out for nothing...
Why so scared??
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@Mastin
Nice turn-about...
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Mana_Ku wrote:@Mastin
Uhm, ok :S? Now I'm confused as I have been absent for a long time, so I don't see how you could have heard of my name :S
Skyquiem is a good place to start.Vote: Skyquiem
Ok Seriously you need to move your vote.
@Sky why haven't you addressed Mana about this?
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We have. Several times.
She's just like a rock, though, and won't budge for nothing on it.
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Ranmaru wrote: Ok, how does that make me scum, though? I'd figure this would be a null tell, not scum. I ask about reads, and I ask why they have reads.Ranmaru wrote: 8. Skyquiem - Scum. I don't like how he doesn't really explain how my play here is different than my other completed games on-site and off-site. I do the same thing in other games, so I am confused as to how Sky came to that conclusion. Don't understand his scum stance on Scott either.
Firstly, you posted this at 3am my time yet expected an instant response then proceeded to vote me for not instantly responding. Asking pointless and useless questions is in no way a null-tell, it fills the thread with fluff and noise as well as creates the illusion that you are participating when you're doing far from that. I did explain how it differs, there's a severe lack of real anaylsis in your play compared to Open 300 and Newbie 1083.
My scum stance on Scott is very deeply explained which you would have found reading through my ISO like you claim to have done, I don't mind repeating it though, it revolves around the fact that he has shown more intent to hydra hunt than scum-hunt while at the same time claiming that a hiden hydra isn't a scum-tell.
Ranmaru wrote:13. Scott Brosius - Doesn't seem scummy at ALL. He seems to be an easy lynch, and was a bit anti-town. Haven't seen him place a vote after Sky revealed his head.
14. Mana_Ku - Hasn't really placed a vote, and hasn't really addressed that much people. I don't care how long Mana was here, I want to see some more scum hunting. Scum
So Scott and Manu both have done minimal scum-hunting however Manu's lack of scumhunting makes her mafia and Scotts lack of scumhunting makes him an easy lynch and anti-town but not scummy. Do I have that correct?
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Ranmaru wrote:I thought Mana did much less than Scott, actually. He at least placed a vote on you. Mana did nothing. Yes his hydra hunting thing wasn't much helpful, but it wasn't malicious either. I still don't get how you guys think he is scum for that.
Mana also voted for us, so how are you differentiating them with one being not scummy AT ALL and the other being scum?
Ranmaru wrote:Really now? With Open 300, I replaced in, so it's easier for me to get solid reads upon replacing in because I have so much info to garner from. With the Newbie, I was trying to be a town leader there, but here it's hard to get leads here because even though there are some newbies, it's not really busting with discussion. Of course, I did ask alot of questions in Open 300, which was your original reason for me being scum. I did the same in Open 300 and the Newbie, but you never said anything about analysis.
It doesn't matter if you replaced into Open 300 or not it showed that you have ability to do more than just ask baseless questions as town. When I state your questioning is pointless it implies that there's a severe lack of analysis involved in, I don't understand how you're treating that as a shock.
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Hiraki, shit. You've figured out my master plan. In all honestly majority of our discussion occurs out of thread removing the need for both heads to constantly post.
Ranmaru, their votes were cast at almost the same time and Manu stated her vote was not an RVS vote therefore I find it hard to believe you would draw that conclusion. Wouldn't scum attempt to act pro-town while not actually helping the town, ie. What Scotts done?
I tend to agree with Mastin in regards to this being 4 scum, 5 scum would be slightly scum sided any more would be unbalanced and any less than 4 would be town-sided.
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Manu_Ku wrote: Now that I'm finally revealing what made my gut active, what did you want to have a discussion about with your other head?
Mostly night-kill speculation which is something I believe town don't use enough and his opinion on whether he believed we should out or heads or not. I've also never played or observed head one play a game therefore I wanted to discuss what sort of playstyle he believed would best mesh for us.
Ranmaru, are you honestly attempting to act annoyed that I answered a question that you directed directed at me, unless you believe I'm not part of everyone.
inHimshalibe, that's not going to cut it, either devote the time needed to the game and re-read the entirety of the thread or replace out.
Scott, you never stated that witholding information was scummy earlier in fact you avoided that altogether and plainly stated it wasn't pro-town. So which is it, is refrainment to outting hydra heads scummy, a scum-tell, anti-town or not pro-town.
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Head One has a stronger town-read on Khan than I do at the moment but it revolves around his willingness to reasses his reads when new information is presented and his questions put forward leading to productive conversation. His statement saying he would have absolutely killed mastin2 night 0 if he could reads as geninue and something we both believe he would have done.-
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Ranmaru, I'll attempt to explain what Kublai is getting at. Mastin states your name as one of the four people he believes is mafia, you say you fear he may not be accurate when if you were town you would instantly know he's not accurate.
Reck, that's hillarious. Out of pure curiosity have you found your experience at the site better dressed as a newb? Also now that your account is outted I'm expecting significant assesements of the game thus far as well as all of your reads.
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Ranmaru, your current vote is on us therefore are you attempting to say you're confident that we're mafia becuase none of your posts have shown any sign of that. The entire reasoning behind your change of vote to us was for not answering a post you made while I was asleep. The question has been answered with you showing no qualms with the reponse however your vote and confidence in our lynch still remains, care to explain?
Changing of votes isn't a scum-tell alone, however changing votes constantly with minimal reason to is indeed a scum-tell, it reads as opportunistic mafia jumping around trying to find a bandwagon or mslynch that will get moving.
Glad I'm not the only one who gets a massive town-read of Silver from #412, head one completely disagrees with it though.
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Ranmaru wrote:Now I didn't like how you answered for Mastin. I yelled at you so that you could acknowledge that I didn't like that, and that you would acknowledge answering another's question on purpose.
Are you attempting to say that answering a question you directed at mastin is allignment indicative. Simple question, yes or no?
Ranmaru wrote:I have already explained why I was annoyed about the Empking question. I was asking to see if people who knew him might have been the ones to kill him. Yet you said the opposite, that it may have been a newb who saw his join date (this was the first I heard of this). I would have wanted to bait reactions first, but you seemed to explain a reason that newb scum could hide behind. I felt that was a bit anti-town.
You ask a question which is directed at least partially towards me, how is me responding to it allignment indicative? Explain how you get to the logic that me answeing the questions allow newb scum to hide behind my answer, if anything my response incriminates newb-scum.
Ranmaru wrote:Yes. I have also explained that you seem to see a "Lack" of my usual play except I always play like this.I also asked you to explain HOW I demonstrate a different play then most my games. You never did this. This is why I suspect you.
This is an unbeleivably massive lie, in Post #342 I did exactly this.
Ranmaru wrote:Ha, funny. I believe myself, but I still don't KNOW who the scum are. I THINK you are scum, not know. But I'm quite confident. How confident are you?
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Ranmaru wrote:Yes it would be. It was about how sure he was about the 4 scum team thing.
So let me just get this right. You direct a question at mastin that he's already answered not in the hopes of attaining a reaction but merely knowing how he reached that conclusion. I answer before he comes online, you find that as a scum-tell?
Ranmaru wrote:I'm talking about the last part of your answer.
Lets just get to the point. Is the fact I answered a question you directed at everyone a scum-tell, yes or no. If no why bring it back up?
Ranmaru wrote:I have READ that. I asked for you to give examples after that. Here is the post: 347 You never answered that, instead you ignored it and talked about other things.
I don't honestly know how I could make it more clear. I've stated it multiple times already. In this game you're asking useless fluff questions that lead to nowhere without really stating your detailed opinion on occurances whereas in alternate games you've played you have done so.
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You haven't responded to any of the following:
Skyquiem wrote:Ranmaru wrote:Yes it would be. It was about how sure he was about the 4 scum team thing.
So let me just get this right. You direct a question at mastin that he's already answered not in the hopes of attaining a reaction but merely knowing how he reached that conclusion. I answer before he comes online, you find that as a scum-tell?
Ranmaru wrote:I'm talking about the last part of your answer.
Lets just get to the point. Is the fact I answered a question you directed at everyone a scum-tell, yes or no. If no why bring it back up?
Ranmaru wrote:I have READ that. I asked for you to give examples after that. Here is the post: 347 You never answered that, instead you ignored it and talked about other things.
I don't honestly know how I could make it more clear. I've stated it multiple times already. In this game you're asking useless fluff questions that lead to nowhere without really stating your detailed opinion on occurances whereas in alternate games you've played you have done so.-
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You didn't answer either of the first two.
1. So let me just get this right. You direct a question at mastin that he's already answered not in the hopes of attaining a reaction but merely knowing how he reached that conclusion. I answer before he comes online,you find that as a scum-tell?
2. Lets just get to the point.Is the fact I answered a question you directed at everyone a scum-tell, yes or no.If no why bring it back up?-
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Ranmaru wrote:1. Yes. You didn't have to answer the question. He could have said that otherwise. Of course I would want a reaction, but you negated that.
If I were to ask Khan who he was voting which is knowledge that can be attained via just reading back through the thread and Deity told me who Khan was
voting, would you consider that a scum-tell by Deity then, yes or no.
Ranmaru wrote: 2. That is irrelevant. I have said that the last sentence, was not the intended answer, everything else was. Everything else, was fine. I didn't like that you SAID that (the last sentence) because that could have gotten a good reaction.
It's really not irrelevant, you continue to bring up the fact I answered a question that you directed towards me as reasoning for your vote. So one last time.
Was the fact that I answered something directed at me a scum-tell yes or no.-
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Ranmaru wrote:1. Not in that situation, no. I wasn't asking for what vote Mastin had.
The situations the EXACT same, you were asking mastin for information that had already been provided in the thread, I provided that information yet you attempt to use that as an attack towards me.
Ranmaru wrote: 2. Yes, it is irrelevant. My point was about the Mastin question, not the Empking question.
Stop avoiding the question. You bring up the fact that I answered a question that was directed at me as part of the reasoning for your vote but you're refusing to call it a scum-tell.-
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Ranmaru wrote: But I didn't notice he explained it. He could have reacted differently. That wasn't the only reason.
This just reads as you attempting to put all possible excuses in one answer. What does it matter if you didn't notice if he had explained it or not before, I provided you with information that had already existed, that's a fact therefore how is providing a fact a scum-tell.
Ranmaru wrote: Skyquiem - Scum. I don't like how he doesn't really explain how my play here is different than my other completed games on-site and off-site. I do the same thing in other games, so I am confused as to how Sky came to that conclusion. Don't understand his scum stance on Scott either.Ranmaru wrote: It is irrelevant. My reason for voting is above.
1. My reasoning for suspecting Scott was explained in my ISO #5, #7, #8 and #15 so to state that you don't understand our stance on him is complete bullshit.
2. As explained in ISO #25 your play this game is entire fluff lacking anaylyitical play that you're capable of such as in #1, #18 and #37 from your Newbie game.-
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Ranmaru wrote:Not for providing a fact that has been stated, but by allowing another player the leisure of not answering the question. Defense.
Now you're just reaching. You ask X for Y information, Y information is already in the thread, Z provides this information, this isn't Z defending X merely a posting of shared information.
Ranmaru wrote: Not bullshit at all.
Are you honestly going to say you don't understand why we suspect Scott at ALL, really if you're town I'm blacklisting you becuase this flailing and bullshitting has gotten way out of hand.
Ranmaru wrote: Now, you labeled those posts wrong. That wasn't even the first nor second. I usually ask questions first, as you can see. RVS then ask questions, discuss, form reads blah blah blah.
You're right the numbers are wrong, but that doesn't change anything at all. Nice attempt to ignore all the content in that post and attempt to trash it merely because of a number mix up though.-
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inHimshallibe wrote:Skyquiem wrote:HOLY ACTIVITY SPIKE, DORIS DAY.
*catches up*
-Mystery Head
[winger] = Reck
I decided to play
Ranmaru is flailing scum
Reck offers himself if RisingPhoenix is town
mastin is being asinine
There y'are.
Yep. All that, sounds about right.
And LOL@Reck reveal- just had to get that one in there~
Ranmaru needs more votes- and the 'stop answering other people's questions' argument needs to stop- my eyes, they bleed over it. Whoever your asking questions to, can, and should, still answer any you ask of them, ranmaru. I mean, good Lord, it's not like its th most Townie thing to do, like...ever. There's nothing stopping them from doing so, so the passive-whining over it is a little over-dramatic >.>
Mastin is quickly becoming scummy in my eyes the more he posts.
Rising Phoenix wagon, does not compute as much, or at all really, as the Ranmaru wagon does atm, need more Ranmaru votes plznthnkus.
Miss anything else??
P-Edit
Empking sounds familiar to me, but I don't really know- means I haven't played with him much, or at all, so I can;t really answer the question. Sorry yo
As for who he could have killed- we figured it was probably a new-player/player-not-well-known that he shot at...
-Mystery head
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Vote Count
- Ranmaru: 5 (RisingPhoenix, Skyquiem, Slaxx, Mana_Ku, inHimshallibe) L-3
Reck: 2 (Kublai Khan, Scott Brosius) L-6
Skyquiem: 2 (Ranmaru) L-6
Kublai Kahn: 2 (mastin2,) L-7
Scott Brosius: 1 (DeityKabuto) L-7
RisingPhoenix: 2 (Reck, Hiraki) L-6
Not Voting: 2 (Silver1337) L-7
With 14 players, it takes8to lynch.
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Ranmaru wrote:I don't really know if I did target him because RedCoyote might have not gotten it. (I asked not to send in a result, so I guess he might have seen it as a no action)I just don't want to mess up cop's results or w/e.
Well says 'ability' so I guess any targets.
Can you re-explain this:
1) What did you actually send in, no action or bodyguarding Khan?
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That doesn't match any of the defintions of town BG I've ever seen. I'm going to need to do some thinking, I need more experienced players in this areas thoughts on the matter.
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Bodyguard
The Bodyguard is a name for many roles:
* A role that functions like a normal Doctor.
* A role that functions like a normal Doctor, but dies if the protected player is attacked.
* A role that has a 50% chance of successfully protecting the target and finds out his target's attacker, and a 50% chance that the Bodyguard dies instead.
* A role that kills the attacker of the protected player (also known as Elite Bodyguard).
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p2406147
XXXX, you are a Bodyguard. Each night, you may PM me the name of another player. That player will be protected from a single kill effect that night. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and at least one townie remains alive.-
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