New York 134: Planet of Hats (Scum Win!)
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Posting in the next little bit. Conferring with SecondHead.-
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KoC -- I'm ....lost. Clarify, please? I was 1-shot BP there, this hardly affects my role here. Unless you're talking about something else? (Also, The Careful Reader will note what's odd about this replacement and .... well, I won't continue.)
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Catching up.....
I agree jilly is town(ish), and null. We will need to get rid of her sooner rather than later though, so.
Those of you voting Celebloki, please explain to me why. Make it good.
What the fresh hell? Keeping an eye on you (I know you resolved it two posts later, but still).
I will keep this in mind for later.
Most excellent summary EVAR.
I am wholeheartedly in favor of a KoC lynch. Even if he's somehow miraculously town, he's ruining the party for the rest of us.
Get out. No, really.
Whoa. Hi, post 860! We'll get KoC tomorrow. Lynch this waste today.
DrippingGoofball wrote:Wraith wrote:jilynne1991(0):SleepyKrew,Parabollocks,JDGA,Celebloki
Which of these players are opportunistic, wanting-PGO dead scumbags?
Not Celebloki. Parabollocks, perhaps, maybe Sleepy. Haven't yet spent much time on JDGA.
No. How many times do I have to say this?
Yes, PBUG, I'm a second cop. It kinda surprised me, too. Those of you who have played with me know that I suck at town PRs; I wouldn't at all lie about it. And I imagine I'll be dead tonight, unless I get protected.
(I never said Celebloki wasgoodtown, just ... town.)
Oh, and I'm not a Mason.
Since Reck apparently needs it applied with a sledgehammer: I am a Cop. I investigated Celebloki last night, and he's Town. Better? I'm not all too trusting that Reck is Town, though.
jilynne1991 wrote:Actually, Para, you can think of it this way, I'm one player for the town, that's guranteed to go to LYLO or take out a scum if I don't get lynched.
But that's not how we roll here. You won't make it to LYLO, trust me.
Knight of Cydonia, in reference to jilynne wrote:Scum who took credit for krypt dying with a claim that would ward off any potential investigation?
Could happen.
No, she's far too new to do that. If she flips scum, I promise I'll stop posting in non-mafia threads here for SIX MONTHS. I'm THAT confident (no, no investigation, just gut).
My investigation tonight will be from among {KoC, DGB, Reck, JDGA, Sleepy, bvoigt}. If I live. (The Careful Reader will note which of those are red herrings, and, should I die, will know to look for scum in the remainder.)-
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Since I only have one role, I'm only claiming one role. [/smartass]
Seriously, I don't know where you see a second Cop claim.-
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Nobody Special wrote:
Yes, PBUG, I'm a second cop. It kinda surprised me, too. Those of you who have played with me know that I suck at town PRs; I wouldn't at all lie about it. And I imagine I'll be dead tonight, unless I get protected.
Reading comprehension FTW.
ISTR a large game with more than one cop. If I have time, I'll see if I can find it. While rare, it's certainly not unheard of.-
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@Mod:I know we're prohibited from posting our Hat picture, but are we allowed to describe it?-
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Celebloki wrote:Out of curiosity, Why did you decide to investigate me, and what do you think of chkballin?
I'm not thrilled with chkballin. But there are others who are worse.
I was talked into investigating you (by SecondHead). You were not my first choice.-
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xRECKONERx wrote:Wait, is that two cop claims, or just one?
I'll say this verrrry sloooowly.
You asked about two cop CLAIMS.
We've had a cop FLIP.
And another cop CLAIM.
I only count one claim (and one flip).
Get your head out of your ass, Reck, you're a better player than this. Certainly better than I am.-
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Please, show me here anything that precludes it.-
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I have read my Role PMagain,and it's really your standard Cop Role PM.
I'm wearing a deerstalker hat. Don't steal it, plz.
And KoC, I really don't don't see how that game relates to this one. Really, not seeing it.-
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After a quick scan of Reck's iso (which is largely just personal attacks on almost everyone in the game), I'm satisfied.
Vote: Reck
He's playing differently here; he's talking pretty much like another poster in whom he has expressed dislike over their style of posting. Something's up.-
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Reck:
A) I understand that life comes up and moods shift and et cetera. If you're truly disenchanted with theentire siteright now, you should do yourself and all of us the favor of requesting replacement. You are not playing toward your wincon, and I daresay you're probably making some enemies you don't want. (Especially with admitting you didn't want to play the game in the first place. Seriously, dude: replace out then.)
However:
B) If this is just TROLLOLOLOL YOU GAIZ SUCK AND I DONT well then, eat some rope.
In either case, my vote stays.-
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I have received a Guilty result on SleepyKrew.
Lynch me, and you lose a cop. Set your personal feelings for me aside, please, and work with my role. Deal?
Lynch Sleepy, and if he does somehow flip town, you know I'm insane -- feel free to kill me overnight, if you must, but then realize that Celebloki is Not Innocent. (I am unclear whether an insane Innocent would equal scum or 3rd party; I don't have a lot of experience as a Cop, sorry.)
Lynch Sleepy today, and:
Best case: We've gotten another scum.
Worst case: We've lost a townie, but we know I'm insane, and therefore Celebloki is Not Innocent.
Because, in either case, I KNOW that I will flip town Cop. You can deal with that after my flip.
For now:
Vote: SleepyKrew-
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The sanity requirement in a Normal game was not my top priority. I'm trying to do what's best for town, thus I trotted out all the options I could think of.
Since I am sane, then, Sleepy is scum and Celebloki is innocent.
Best Case: Lynch Sleepy and gain a bit of belief in my role.
Worst case: Lynch me, find out I'm telling the truth, lose your last cop. (I HIGHLY doubt there's three cops in a game this size. Unpossible.)
IF YOU DO LYNCH ME TODAY, lynch Sleepy tomorrow. After I flip Town Cop. You know?-
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There are 15 players left. Is it worth it to lynch Sleepy in order to realize you really do have a cop?
Also, take note of how hard Sleepy is trying to discredit me.-
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The red-herrings in my list were DGB and JDGA.Palisade wrote:{KoC, DGB, Reck, JDGA, Sleepy, bvoigt}
KoC, lynched.
DGB, possible-red-herring, possible-real-investigation.
BV, same thing.
Reck, HIS VOTE YESTERDAY.
WHY NOT RECK?!? Or, heck, Why not JDGA? Why Sleepy? It makes no sense.
I investigated Sleepy because KoC got lynched, and bvoigt was less scummy to me. I had a feeling Reck might die overnight. I am actually leaning town on Reck right now; I think Reck is letting his emotions get the better of him.-
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Nobody Special wrote:I am actuallyleaning town on Reck right now;I think Reck is letting his emotions get the better of him.xRECKONERx wrote: and now going 'lol i was leaning town on reck'
Bolded because apparently you can't read.
In other news, I've really got to get some work done; I likely won't be back in this thread for a couple of hours.-
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My result arrived in the form of "guilty."-
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I'll take an apology from certain people in the morning.-
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I investigated Palisade last night. Palisade is Innocent, therefore I believe his claim.
I chose Pali because of the interesting interactions between them and Sleepy yesterday.
Thor, got any finished games as SK?-
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I don't see how. WIFOM, etc.
He isn't "confirmed" town until I investigate him.-
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EBWOP: Normal setup guidelines.-
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You honestly need to read the thread.-
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DrippingGoofball wrote:That post came from town. Not up for discussion.
Yes, actually, dear, it IS up for discussion.
Either you're scum and KNOW that chkballin is town, or you're claiming Cop with an innocent result.
Oh, wait -- We already HAVE two Cops. Are you claiming THIRD COP?
Or, are you ... let's see. Scum, perhaps?
Oh, we WILL discuss this, yes we will.
(Yes, there's a third option, but that will be left as an exercise for the Reader.)-
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I can deal with that.
Vote: chkballin-
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Damn ninja!Thor.
I meant you, Reck.-
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Being 13, means that you don't have to deal with the responsibility of totally fucking up 10+ games for people who are lot more invested in a website AND COMMUNITY than you obviously are.
Fixed your sig for you.
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Taro wrote:I did mention earlier that PBuG and Celebloki were scum right?
Just making sure it's still fresh for everyone.
You did see my Innocent result on Celebloki, right? (And, you know, my correct result on SKrew. That, too).
Just making sure it's still fresh for you.
Or, you know, what Thor said.-
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Yep, this game's dragging. More than a drag queen.-
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xRECKONERx wrote:UNVOTE; VOTE: PEREGRINEV
Being lazy today; recap why please?
And DGB is voting, I assume, for lurkishness.-
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xRECKONERx wrote:i didnt say why
Could you, oh I don't know, SAY WHY NOW?-
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Okay, I'll let it go for now. But I'll bring it up again, so don't try sweeping it under the rug.-
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Taro wrote:I did mention earlier that PBuG and Celebloki were scum right?
Just making sure it's still fresh for everyone.
Let's look at this logically, shall we?
Town!Taro: Ignores my innocent result on Celebloki, perhaps not paying enough attention due to RL issues.
Scum!Taro: Ignores my innocent result on Celebloki, for ....some reason.
I got nothin'.-
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I'm up for a Taro lynch. Not so much chkballin, although I have to re-read Celebloki's case.
I'm also okay with investigating Parabollocks.
Celebloki, could I ask for your top two scummiest aside from Taro & chkballin?-
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Some activity stats, for your edification and delight:
(Note: Data is a few hours old, I hate making tables, and etc. OtherNote: All data is descending sort by postcount)
Raw data:Spoiler: Raw Data
Spoiler: Pretty Colors
My initial thoughts:I hate tablesToo many lurkers (but we knew that). The most extreme thing that jumps out at me is the total lurkishness of JDGA contrasted with the not-so-much of SleepyKrew. I would imagine they're the two extremes; the remaining scum are somewhere in the middle of them.
That said, I really, REALLY need to make the time to read past Reck games.
I plan on grouping this data by alignment, too, but I just can't do it right now.-
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DrippingGoofball wrote:That analysis is nice NS, but the replaced player slots weren't totaled.
FFS.
"Here's a puppy."
"But I wanted a PONY"
Do you have ANY idea how long that took me?
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chkballin wrote:VOTE: Auckmid
Let's get a move on, ladies. Working on a catch-up.
That seals it.
Vote: chkballin
I mean, really now.-
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I have PMed the mod requesting her force-replacement. She obviously has no intention of playing.-
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@Thor: I either modded or ICed VinegarEater a while back in a newbie. Very good player, if memory serves.-
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Well, rather than Auckmid, can we lynch someone like Fourseen Circumstance (PBuG was quite scummy), or Taro, who's lurking too much?
Not really sure who I'll investigate tonight. Yet.-
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I was actually hoping for more posts to, you know, figure out who to investigate.
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Thor665 wrote:@NS - My suggestion of how to pick who to investigate is to do it correctly.
Seriously, you had two scum on your to be investigated list - why do you think your reads are off that badly?
@Fourseen Pressure - I think you're doing it wrong.
Thor, dear, you OF ALL PEOPLE know I suck at this. I think I just got lucky.
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VinegarEater wrote:NS -
I asked you a question earlier that you still haven't answered (based on #1359)
Why do you want him (Fourseen) lynched now when you can investigate him tonight?
Sorry; I thought I had missed something, but couldn't find anything.
Anyway, we have to lynch someone today, yes? And I still get to investigate someone tonight, right? So, I figure lynch one of the scummy folk, and investigate the others.
Everyone else, between here and lockdown:
Name two people you'd investigate tonight if you were the Cop. Go!-
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Because I'm second-guessing myself. I mean, yes, that's my default investigation at this point, but if I'm missing something Very Obvious, I'd appreciate knowing.-
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That quoted post was before the hammer. (Point being, didn't know who would be lynched for sure [the wagon was starting to derail slightly]) and now that we have a lynch, I'm wondering if there might be better choices I've overlooked.
tl;dr: Second-guessing myself. It's my biggest downfall.-
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Is there a reason you're badgering me about this? I've pretty much settled on a target, okay? Happy?-
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Thank you for answering. No, I'm fully aware I have an investigative role.-
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Here's the case: That slot has posted a total of twelve times; the last post being almost three days ago. Even if VT, they're playing anti-town.
P-Edit: Wow, Taro -- any explanation?-
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Taro -- I was hoping for an explanation of your explanationless hammer. But, whatever.
Reck -- Love you too, sweetheart.-
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Oh, and -- Palisade -- don't vig me, I'm really the cop. Trust me on this one,if you know what I mean.-
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If you'll note, the Taro comment was a preview-edit. I was about to hammer when that was taken from me.
I just wanted to hear his reasoning, that's all.
Scumreads [of varying degree] (and pool of investigationalityness): Fourseen, Taro, Parabollocks-slot, Reck, Peregrine-
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PeregrineV wrote:Nobody Special wrote:If you'll note, the Taro comment was a preview-edit. I was about to hammer when that was taken from me.
I just wanted to hear his reasoning, that's all.
Scumreads [of varying degree] (and pool of investigationalityness): Fourseen, Taro, Parabollocks-slot, Reck, Peregrine
You were voting chkballin, yet he's absent from the list.
Reasons?
I hadn't actually unvoted after the fakehammer. But I'm leaning more to Town!chkballin now.
Palisade: Noted.-
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I got an Innocent result on Reck.
Now I'm frustrated.
Palisade, I think you're loony. I eagerly await your "case."-
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So, I'm gathering you don't want to let me live until LyLo?
Or wait -- are you saying you're scum and my result is wrong?
Wait. What ARE you saying?
Aside from a completely contentless "LOL" of course.-
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Something IS up with Reck, but apparently it's not due to his alignment. The Careful Reader will be able to find many non-Mafia things that it could be.
Now, to qualify: I've interacted with Reck far more OUTSIDE of Mafia than in actual games. I think I've played with him twice. I should go back and re-read some of this games, but he's Innocent here so it hardly matters in this game.-
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I am on my way out the door for dinner, but a quick glance at the Normal wiki page does not seem to cover, either way, investigation immunity. Will read more later.
Seriously, though, dude, wtf?-
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