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I don't go after new players, I go after scummy players.mastin2 wrote:Hiraki, this has to be AT LEAST the third game in a row I've seen you hunt after a person with a 2011 join date.
I think you're town, of course.
But honestly. Is "new player" synonymous with "scumclaim" for you?
While yes, it is an odd trend, it is not a trend that I go for as scum or town.
Do you not see what's scummy with hiplop?-
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You don't see town motivation in this?hiplop wrote:VOTE: mastin
Dont see town motivation for what hes doing, not at all. Trying to look helpful despite doing shit.
mastin2 wrote:2. edmund.angles <--Very minor scum-lean.
3. PranaDevil <--Very minor town-lean.
4. hiplop <--Flip-flops, so null.
8. Uprising <--Flip-flops, but overall leans town. (So, very minorly.)
9. Torqez <--Town.
10. Maxous <---Also town.
13. Pine
14. pappums rat <--I'm guessing town.
16. Tomie Uzumaki <--Scumz.
17. Hiraki <--Null. I'll look more into this.
18. Toon Fighter <--Town.
19. SomeRandomGuy <--Very slight town-read.
20. zMuffinMan <--Also a very slight town-read.
The gaps are people who I have trouble judging the content on, so far.
You know posting all your reads on Page 2?
Yeah, that's scummy.
How about....
This?mastin2 wrote:TOWN:
Toon
Maxous
Torquez
Pappums
Hiraki
malpascp
Prana
SRG
MuffinMan
Uprising
Eleven out of 21. NOW we're talkin'. That's down to half the game as suspects. If I can cut it in half again...
Again, posting lists.
If you wanted something more, like reasons you could ask him for them. But you didn't, you just left him with him saying that he doesn't have town motivation.
In present times, he's kept his vote on.
How has he justified it?
hiplop wrote:key word - looks.
Hohoho.
Because someone looks scummy, doesn't mean they are scum.
Does it make it better that you just happen to be on the leading wagon?
I'm going to eat, and continue later. At least I might, I don't really want to though. Hiplop's play is already crummy.-
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I kind of made some points above.Pine wrote:Pine wrote:Hiraki wrote:Do you not see what's scummy with hiplop?
I see some things, but why don't you tell us? You can pretend I'm a moron in need of patient explanation, if it helps.
Just curious if you're capable of doing so without resorting to the word "gut".
Please respond.
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To continue on, here's a major part that shows Hiplop's hypocrisy
hiplop wrote:muffin i dont see what you dont get... I explained it fine earlier, stop distracting town.
When Muffin was only questioning Hiplop's vote. This is a rather harsh defense, not only that, but Hiplop did not explain it earlier.
Which is where Muffin asks again, because he also realizes that Hiplop did not as well.
He just ignores it, and shows the same want as Muffin, in this post.
hiplop wrote:i want to know whyyouthink i am scum
There's not much more, but this is already pretty bad. Kill it with fire.-
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Because meta is based on actions that people do when they're town or scum.Pine wrote:I think it's an entirely neutral insight into your thought process. Why does your alignment matter?
You don't even have a clear read on me, so therefore if I do something and you store it as information as meta, you must have some insight of my alignment that you're not sharing.-
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vezokpiraka wrote:GreyICE wrote:Empking wrote:Can people please stop wasting their votes?
Fair enough
Vote: Hiraki
Back on scum!
Wasn't hiraki your alt??
I see hiraki and GI omgusing one another. Their egos are too much,Hiraki wrote:Vote: Hiplop
Grey, I still have no meta so you're wrong.
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One post.GreyIce wrote:Hiraki's still scum, but he'll keep. This is staring me in the face right here, right now. Hiraki's combination aggression and passive-aggressive posts with 'helpful' "oh I is so town" posts like bitching about people gut voting.
You're full of shit, you know that?
The only thing you have on me at the moment, withnothingabout anything prior where you actually called me scum, for reasons other than meta.
Grey, why is Hiplop not scum?-
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ISO Hiplop.chkflip wrote:Hiraki wrote:Vote: Hiplop
Grey, I still have no meta so you're wrong.
Btw. he's scum.
If I'm incorrect and my vote is on town, I'd love to hear your full case on Hiplop then.
Do note that I've only completely taken in up to page five and given the whole thread a quick skim.
Easy scum there.
I really don't want to explain more.-
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mastin2 wrote:Let's make page twelve "Page Wall". Hiraki and chk, both hurry and get it onto this page, so that we won't have to have three pages in a row of walls!
HERE'S THE PITCH.hiplop wrote:lmao at mastin for making lists for no reason; i'm looking town despite never posting? lol
SWIIINNNNGGGGG.hiplop wrote:Dont see town motivation for what hes doing, not at all. Trying to look helpful despite doing shit.
Hiplop then goes onto to say how it's not helpful. Assuming makes an ass out of u and m(e)ing. We'll get there in a second, there's something better we have to look at here.
Numero Seis?Neruz wrote:mastin2 ( 6 ) - Toon Fighter, Tomie Uzumaki, Maxous, malpascp, Phoebus,hiplop
Numero scumo. To be fair, the devil's number is 6 and therefore scum are on the wagons as the sixth person, obv.
But since you've noted it, then he can't use it. So, now there's no scum reasoning behind it unless everyone ignores this post, and doesn't look into mastin as hard as they should.hiplop wrote:I'm thinking in late game. When you ISO someone, and you see things like that; it will look better, and i think he knows that.
Its really just a RV with some reasoning/weight to it.
So um.
What's the point of this vote now? Not sure. Oh wait! There is none.
ouch
Again, Hiplop is assuming here. He doesn't know what anyone will do at the end of the game. While it may look scummy, it doesn't mean that it is scummy in retrospective. Furthermore, by the end of the game, there should be some loose holes that will give Mastin the leeway to be targeted as scum. I doubt that anyone would bring up this as a point in that time. So why should it be a standpoint for a D1 lynch? psst. It shouldn't.hiplop wrote:key word - looks.
I still consider this a slip because of grammar. However, you could make more of it by saying that hiplop has only associated Mastin's first game comments to this point.hiplop wrote:Town shouldn't have to try to look good. Thats what he is doing, hes not actually doing anything helpful. Its simply an illusion
For example, hiplop is directly incorrect in the point that Mastin has done anything helpful. This is post #75. Mastin has 18 posts by post 76. If you're saying that each and every single post that Mastin has made is useless then sure, your argument would be correct. However, this is not the case. While Mastin doesn't explain all of his reads, he does explain some. You could make the case that he's with-holding information, but have fun trying to get that lynch done. Because that's all you have at the moment.
Asking questions is in no way, shape, or form distracting town. In fact, you should want to explain a bandwagon as town or scum in order to advocate your lynch. Considering that muffin did not, and still doesn't as shown in #148 which you blatantly ignore, understand it, you're either aware that your BW sucks, or unsure about Mastin. Either way, you must die for it since you haven't retracted the plausibility of Mastinscum.hiplop wrote:muffin i dont see what you dont get... I explained it fine earlier, stop distracting town.
ISO 9 and 10 are skippies.
This is a horrible reaction. Even if Paupaums rat is wrong, a simple yes or no should do. I believe that the scumtell of over-explanation works here quite well. In addition, what if he was making it up? Wouldn't that make him suitable to die?Hiplop wrote:lmao what? I've never done that as scum. I type more the angrier/more interested i am, scum or town.
Are you sure you're not just making shit up?
Posts 180-182 show easily fallacies in hiplop's case due to Muffin's questioning. I advise everyone to read that, but I know that if you have even gotten this far in my wall, you must read it because you like to read and stuff. This is because .01% of mafiascum read walls in full context. Hell, I'm not even expecting hiplop to read this much. I want him to, and respond back, but the chances of that are slim to none. I digress.
Here's the new advances in the hiplop case.
Hiplop wrote:and now GI seem a slight bit scummy to me really.
You went with someone who you just stated you had a scumread on?Hiplop wrote:GM has me convinced
hmmzorz.
Not only that, but Maxous' points have some meaning as well. To note, I don't have a definite stance on TF at the moment. From my initial skims, he looks outrageously scummy, but that in itself looks a bit odd. Tomie is still town btw. guys.
Moving on now.
I haven't read much on him yet, but at the moment he's one of my scummies for his little slip thing. I didn't like his explanation of it either. Hiplop is numero uno though, so don't worry.Mastin wrote:Do you think Pine is scum, Hiraki?-
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OKAY.
SO?
ANSWER THE GOD DAMN QUESTIONS, AND STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THEM.
AKA: STOP BEING A BITCH.
You can make a case if you think Mastin is scum, and we'll follow you if he looks scummy. Not answering the questions that you assume are not productive is in its own essence not productive.
Then again, you haven't been productive anyway.-
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Can you stop with this bullshit of capitalizing YOU in order for others to spit out information about you being scummy that will ultimately derive from someone else's logic.hiplop wrote:no. I want to know why YOU think hes scum, i know what im thinking, i need to know what you are
The reason you're not defending is fanfuckingtasticly scummy.-
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Are you Warriormode from Scorehero?warriormode wrote:Unvote, Vote:Maxous
I think he's been trying to play too safe and I'm not really seeing how he's super pro-town as he may appear.
In any case, Hiplop has still not addressed my case against him, and adds Muffin to his scumlist.
Tell me, Hiplop, why is Muffin scum?-
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Control + F time boys.hiplop wrote:i think it was kind of implied oh great maxous. dont take things so literally
fairly obvious i was pushing on Muffin all game, but his latest posts made him propel up the charts
Counting your fairly bad accusation, you've mentioned Muffin 4 times this game.
Come on.
Let's get a case up on Muffin, now.
I want to know why YOU think muffin is scum.-
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Considering that GI is looking more and more like a 3rd Party Role that should not exist?MuffinMan wrote:GI vig bait over the 15 or so players lurking?
yes.
Like?mastin2 wrote:Not alone, but combined with other stuff...
Oh wait, nevermind. Mastin has a huge point on this one after re-reading, the meta point. Especially since GI did not address this point.
I'll join you now.
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Mastin showed a point where GreyICE said he Policy Lynches any who use Meta. I actually haven't checked if ICE actually said this, but he had not addressed Mastin's point. This is scummy.pappums rat wrote:Hiraki wrote:Unvote
Hiplop is newbie.
Newb scum don't apologize. At least, it's enough to convince me to look for another lynch for today.
Vote: Bowser
This seems like a pretty sudden about-face after you have been pushing hiplop so hard for so long, and only after hiplop *~apologizes~*. Doing so is not a tell either way.
What is this meta point of which you speak, regarding GreyICE?-
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