New York 138: OxyMoron Mafia :: Game Over!

[Bomberman]

Man, this game went and started without me.

[Bomberman]

I'm going to try something:

1: Why do you play Mafia?

Hmm. good question. I play mafia because it's fun and i enjoy brain-teasers.

2: How old are you?

Bomberman came out in 1983.

3: How would you describe your general thought process?

Concise, but also not afraid to go into detail.

4: What is your time-zone?

EST

5: How do you approach unique problems in need of solution?

there is no such thing as a unique problem, and something unique shouldn't be treated as such, the most likely answer is always the answer; occum's razor.

6: What is your favorite precious metal, and why?

Zirconium

7: How would you approach this game as town?
8: How would you approach this game as scum?

Find the intent of a post and decipher it.

Find the intent of a post and manipulate it.

9: What is your gender?

Male

10: Are you nervous?

Not at all.

11: What is your experience level?

Started in the summer of 08' playing mafia.

12: What are your strongest emotions?

Anger sometimes, but i tend not to get angry anymore, mostly just calm.

13: What's your general activity level?

I stay active as i see it fit, i'm not going to comment on every single post in the game, or not comment on anything at all.

14: What is your plan in this game?

Get NK'd N1.

15: Which do you prefer: RVS, RQS, or other? (If Other, please explain.)

RVS, Random questions are inane.

16: Do you have a reputation? What for?

I have a reputation of being hard to read apparently, people say i don't give enough to get a read, and that i'm somewhat shallow even though i'm clear with my thoughts.

17: Do you prefer playing as town, scum, or other? (If Other, please explain.)

Indy da bess.

18: What are your favorite three roles?

Serial Killer
VT
Godfather

19: What order are those favorite roles in?

1. SK
2. VT
3. Godfather

20: What is your stance on lurkers?

quality is better then quanity.

21: How do you plan on catching scum?

by scumhunting.

22: What do these questions mean to you?

Well considering i find RQS inane, they're not much worth but i'm happy to share them.

23: What is the airspeed velocity of a coconut-laden swallow?

Google couldn't find the answer, damn.

24: You see someone waving their arms and directing you to go right. How do you respond?

Depends what's on the right, if he's directing me to a cliff then i'm obviously gonna jump.

[Bomberman]

Never seen a pre-game be 14 pages.

[Bomberman]

UNVOTE: Vifam

I'll deal with

you

later

.

VOTE: Mastin2

Racist bugger calling both Scotsmen Scum!

And no, I'm not answering your damn questions.

Confirmed Indy

[Bomberman]

UNVOTE: Vifam

I'll deal with

you

later

.

Is that a legitimate threat?

Confirmed VI

[Bomberman]

Town:
Empking
Kcda
Johhog


Null:
Mastin
The Fools
Secret

Scum:
Vifam
DavidX

Town - people with logic

Null - Mastin + lackeys

Scum - David the indy and Vifam the idiot

this list pleases the town gods

[Bomberman]

oops, forgot to add Estyn into my scum list.

you fucked up.

[Bomberman]

goddamnit i hate multi-posting



@Vifam

Then do something that actually makes me think you have an ounce of intelligence in you, so far you've been all over the place.

How can I be both Indy and Scum at the same time?

Scum = Not-town
Indy = Not-town

[Bomberman]

@Vifam
no you idiot i am commenting on Oversoul's reads, that's why i quoted them.

[Bomberman]

TBH i'm not liking oversoul


at all

You are not alone.

Besides otherwise baseless claims, I don't know why I am disliked.

There's your problem.

Vifam v. Oversoul is SvT

Vote: Oversoul

[Bomberman]

Scum is anything not aligned with the town, your logic fails to impress me with your mundane explanations david

[Bomberman]

Scum is a term used to refer to any member of an anti-town faction.

toot toot

[Bomberman]

mastin i have to say i don't like you much either

mainly cuz of some of your questions

turned out to be stupid on my part

oversoul is scum

Can you explain how the questions were stupid? Questions start discussion, and bring a chance to get an insight into how other players play, therefore allowing you to pick up scumtells.

People failing to answer/complaining about questions give off a scumread to me. Also can you explain why you think oversoul is scum?

Catching up on the last 2 pages now, surprised there wasn't more wrote while i was asleep going off the initial pace

Confirmed Town

[Bomberman]

You said "This town pleases the town gods" as if you agreed with them. What the fuck are you doing?

"This pleases the town gods."

his reads came from a town perspective at first, but then something terrible happened..

[Bomberman]

Skimming is cool

1. Empking - Town
2. Kcdaspot - Null leaning town
3. Estyn - Town
4. Xeras - Town
5. Foolish Fool (Haylen + JordanA24) - Null
6. mastin2 - Null
7. Vifam - VI
8. BomberMan - Indy aligned town
9. Fool_Hardy - Don't care
10. David Xanatos - Indy aligned scum
11. Oversoul - Scum
12. MintKitten - Don't care
13. whiTE_Teaz - Don't care
14. LordChronos - Town
15. Johhog - Town
16. LTP Mafia - Scum
17. Secret Project (evilpacman18 + MrBump) - Town
18. donkwich - Don't care
19. lewarcher82 - replaced out
20. redFF - Don't care

[Bomberman]

I don't see how one read you think is false read could lead you thinking OS being scum. You're honestly not making any sense right here. You have to be bussing or something because that shit is ridiculous.

The more you talk the more stupid you sound

[Bomberman]

FACTION.

Independents are not anti-town. They are independent. They may or may not be harmful to Town. (See Jester, Lyncher (No, this is not always anti-town.), Survivor, et cetera).

[Bomberman]

@Vifam

I'll explain to you in baby words.

I commented on Oversoul's reads, they came from a town perspective, you were scummy and it is not bad to consider it to be so, especially from a noob player.

But then the latest events happened and you are just a VI and oversoul is most likely scum, i wanted to consider the other way around, but there isn't a fathomable reason for it to be so.

[Bomberman]

EBWOP: There could be a fathomable reason but that means one of you would have to die, so consider yourself lucky.

[Bomberman]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Vifam

For putting words into my mouth and latching onto a piss poor argument to make Johhog seem scummy.

Vifam, where the hell did I agree with you about Johhog about the argument with the online status? I said you had a point that it was odd Johhog would say something and then not follow it.

and at this point, KC is just trolling me.

check it

[Bomberman]

@Vifam

I'll explain to you in baby words.

I commented on Oversoul's reads, they came from a town perspective, you were scummy and it is not bad to consider it to be so, especially from a noob player.

But then the latest events happened and you are just a VI and oversoul is most likely scum, i wanted to consider the other way around, but there isn't a fathomable reason for it to be so.

Who's alt are you? Or do you have a lot of experience on another site?

I was ReaperCharlie but then i got banned

[Bomberman]

@Vifam
Yes, but the way you have been acting is anti-town, i'm not saying that you aren't right in some situations, i'm just saying you're playing anti-town.

@OS

Was a joke

You're claiming that his accusation is merely putting words into your mouth, when you yourself stated that you agreed to one of his points, but you didn't see it that way, so basically it's a different perspective argument.

I said you had a point that it was odd Johhog would say something and then not follow it.

quote for proof

[Bomberman]

I agreed that it seemed ODD that Johhog would say someone was darn scummy and then not follow through on that comment.

Vifam then started his "you were on, I saw your name, yet you said you were going to bed" nonsense.

He then said I SUPPORTED HIM WITH HIS CASE AGAINST JOHHOG, WHICH I NEVER SAID. That is why I said he was putting words in my mouth.

Oh ya, not declaring your main account = anti town to some.

Declaring someone is scum and not putting action to it is different things, i have declared david as indy and yet i haven't acted on it, does that make it odd? yes, but there is priority over things, i have skimmed also, and from what i'm hearing from your mouth is that you found it odd he didn't act, and from what i'm seeing actions speak louder then words for you.

but that is a true accusation, it's a stupid one, but it's true, i guess.


You agreed with a point of his, you're supporting it, but it's different perspective, as i said.

[Bomberman]

different perspective

[Bomberman]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

[Bomberman]

unvote

[Bomberman]

why the unvote thoo?

hes noweher NEAR L-1.

AND he gave up...

Shit now feels like a mislynch thoo.

Read as rather flailing town then flailing scum

[Bomberman]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

THAT'S THE ONLY ARGUMENT YOU ARE PRESENTING.

FUCK THIS TOWN.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Oversoul

rid myself of this cancer of a game

I don't know kc, i just tilt my head a bit and find this kind of response more flaily town, however you do have a point with being nowhere near L-1; ever seen a sc- dumb question, even seen a scum self-vote nowhere being near L- another dumb question, ever see town self-vote being nowhere near L-1 or clo-

fuck, these are all dumb questions.

i'll sit for now, see how he responds

[Bomberman]

Trust me. Oversouls's one of my top two scum-reads, from what I've read.
He's not a mislynch.

Not this game.

:O

[Bomberman]

Null, he needs to sell me on it, and i know mastin can if he wants to, so i'm curious as to why he hasn't yet.

(Still need to fully re-read, from pretty much page three.)

[Bomberman]

i like how over is reading this thread and not doing anything...

he doesn't know how to sign on invisible yet, or to perma-invisible :3c

[Bomberman]

bomb:

ally?

[Bomberman]

ITT: New people put everyone who they can't read as scum

[Bomberman]

I left this window open in another tab while I farted around on YouTube.

So you're gonna ignore my unvote then?

vote: Oversoul

[Bomberman]

I think you might have been caught either lying or implying you're an SK...

Vote: Bomberman

It's a Joke, i mentioned in the questions i liked being Indy.

[Bomberman]

Also, have you not read what i talked to Oversoul about? i gave enough reason, i could go into detail but i'd save me a headache.

[Bomberman]

Oversoul is pissed off town. He made it clear enough. Self-voting is anti-town, not at all scummy unless it's a self-hammer.

wanted to believe this but he hasn't done anything ever since the unvote.

maybe i can still believe it, he needs to respond to some shit first though.

[Bomberman]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

THAT'S THE ONLY ARGUMENT YOU ARE PRESENTING.

FUCK THIS TOWN.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Oversoul

rid myself of this cancer of a game

HURR

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Bomberman

por que?

[Bomberman]

Oversoul is just pissed off town for no reason and scum has to be on his wagon.


Specially you.

I presented a case against him saying he is scum, i only had a change of heart because of his unvote, and thought it was flailing town, but he literally didn't do anything afterwards, he didn't respond, nothing.

Same goes with you, you said he was scum, but then he self-voted and you had a change of heart, don't be a hypocrite child

[Bomberman]

his posting style is obnoxious

K

He is a newbie

I had to catch up 14 pages of shit, i'm gonna be a little bit pissed, i tend not to be as aggravated but this game gave me a bad taste in my mouth, also, opnions, i think you're a newbie from how you're playing, you wanted to vote me on an opposed slip about something i wouldn't obviously claim; what goes around comes around

[Bomberman]

Fair point, i could use a chill pill also, hopefully things turn better, i don't like getting obnoxious but i will when i feel i have to

[Bomberman]

stop trying to figure who the fuck i am and play the game, i think all i've read from new content from oversoul trying to find out if i'm a hydra or an alt or whatever, then there's people giving mundane reads and not of this is beneficial if you're not going to act on it, it's lovely to give something but there isn't any useful content here.

Thought i'd add this: but SP is town and people trying to vote him for 'rolefishing' is bad.

Vifam, get off tunnel vision and do something besides call me scum, provide a case, slap me across the face, just do something.
Oversoul, you're not getting my details and trying to meta me with my e-mail i activated for this is stupid, the e-mail WAS used for a hydra before but i'm not going to imply anything.

multiposting away

[Bomberman]

THE AURA OF THAT POST READS TOWN HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHNG.

Lolzzzzzz.... no.

My case against Oversoul has already been briefly touched. One, self voting is retarded, no matter what the circumstances.

Vifam. Johhog. The little asinine argument about who is online was completely... ridiculous. In my eyes it just looks like scum vs scum arguing so that when one you dies the other could go 'Derp. I was against X in the first day. I am clearly town'

From my experience when a big argument happens on day one, either one or both of the people in the argument are scum.

I like the reasoning behind this man

[Bomberman]

Actually, that's a fallacy. While scumhunting may be rolefishing, not all rolefishing is scumhunting. Yours falls in to the latter category. In response to your question, posting something really scummy then a bunch of null posts doesn't usually make me feel less confident in my read. I disagree that I'm just sheeping, but that's not really a scum tell from you, I don't think. Unless it was an OMGUS attack brought on by my beginning to push you. Let me check that and get back to you in the morning tomorrow or maybe the afternoon depending on whether I get to it before I leave for my camp.

You also didn't say what the point of asking me to randomly order the list was. Please do.

you're all over the place in this post, you stand firm to a point then cower like a little baby.

[Bomberman]

I don't like Johhog anymore.

[Bomberman]

CONSIDER ME UNIMPRESSED

Also
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Oversoul That vote on himself and claiming that's a town tell and then unvoting was ridiculous, plus he isn't even adressing cases against him. Still want David to answer the questions tho.

cool newbie is cool

and most likely town

[Bomberman]

I'm gonna do a shocker vote here.

Vote: Lord Chronos

Just don't like the slot at all and i feel he is just ignorning oversoul for a purpose, i've done some skimming but i don't think i've heard him talk about OS that much

[Bomberman]

You wanted him to start making amazing contributions as soon as you unvoted. In reality you were just trying to revive a wagon that looked like it might falter. Because if you really wanted some contributions, you'd wait until he was in a calmer state of mind, that vote did nothing but goad him on to continue being antitown.

No, i wanted him to comment on the unvote, it was mostly use a AtE 'gambit' to see how he would react to it, he didn't do anything at all and it didn't seem like it affected him, i wanted to get content out of him seeing if he would comment on it, i still haven't got anything out of it and i haven't got much of anything else either.

[Bomberman]

What did you want him to say?


"Thank you for unvoting"?

it's not what i wanted him to say, it's how he reacts to it.

[Bomberman]

reacting is another statement then what he would say, i did indeed get somewhat of a reaction from it, he completely ignored it, when i felt that this was a under the rug move, i applied pressure once more; i got the same response.

[Bomberman]

you shouldn't rely on mastin for all the answers, direct me head on and tell me how you feel about these circumstances, atleast vifam has done that.

[Bomberman]

I'm not sure if you're an idiot or if you're trolling.

Why should Town be concerned about who does or doesn't suspect them, beyond answering any questions/responding to points.

If someone votes me, asks questions, and unvotes after I answer, the natural assumption is "I answered what he wanted to know, he now understands my stance and his concerns were abated". The natural reaction is not "OMG THANK YOU FOR UNVOTING <3<3<3".

I didn't show that i was impressed, all i did was unvote because he got flustered and i wasn't going to get anything out of him in his state of mind.

[Bomberman]

@Johhog

K

[Bomberman]

i appealed to emotion when he didn't respond to me, it was beating a dead horse move but i was still curious, i understand it didn't have much warrant but i was hoping 2nd time was a charm.

[Bomberman]

I am about done with Bomberman as well too. Either is a bad played trying to be scum, or he is a troll. I can deal without his attitude.

UNVOTE: Oversoul
VOTE: Bomberman

He is undeniably an easy target.

Personally I'd read him as, as Johhog just said, unreadable. There's scummier targets out there.

I'm Fate's significant other, who knew.

and yes, i do agree there are scummier targets out there, like the guy i'm voting, he's scummy.

[Bomberman]

Also it's a bad sign that Bomberman is starting the game like this, as an alt. We probably have one of the less loved players with us here.

I haven't confirmed hydra or alt yet, :O

[Bomberman]

You never gave me any questions to answer when you asked me about them. I would have obliged you, but you never did.

I think I said this before, right now, I would not mind if we lynched Bomberman.

I'm not a question person, i find them inane, jeez people i said all of this in my introduction that mastin wanted me to do.

[Bomberman]

I am about done with Bomberman as well too. Either is a bad played trying to be scum, or he is a troll. I can deal without his attitude.

UNVOTE: Oversoul
VOTE: Bomberman

fucking god grow up you ever seen xRECKONERx , Fate , etc. play?

[Bomberman]

Skimming is cool

1. Empking - Town
2. Kcdaspot - Null leaning town
3. Estyn - Town
4. Xeras - Town
5. Foolish Fool (Haylen + JordanA24) - Null
6. mastin2 - Null
7. Vifam - VI
8. BomberMan -

Indy aligned town

9. Fool_Hardy - Don't care
10. David Xanatos - Indy aligned scum
11. Oversoul - Scum
12. MintKitten - Don't care
13. whiTE_Teaz - Don't care
14. LordChronos - Town
15. Johhog - Town
16. LTP Mafia - Scum
17. Secret Project (evilpacman18 + MrBump) - Town
18. donkwich - Don't care
19. lewarcher82 - replaced out
20. redFF - Don't care

Also, Bomberman, wtf is this?

A joke.

all of this is in my introduction

[Bomberman]

no you fucking moron i'm just playing like i play goddamn, you guys are fucking retarded and still trying to find reasoning to oblivious things when they're right there; i have found one sign of intelligence here and it seems most of you probably just follow Vi's how to play mafia.

ad hominem but jesus christ do something fucking else

[Bomberman]

i have yet*

[Bomberman]

it's not trolling, it's a wake-up call, i thought coming back would show that people on this site got a brain but they still follow their broken meta-game.

[Bomberman]

it's not trolling, it's a wake-up call, i thought coming back would show that people on this site got a brain but they still follow their broken meta-game, guess not, place is still half-baked full of people who will always stay ignorant.

later chaps, i'm not going to try to fit into your constituted bullshit.

Request Replacement

[Bomberman]

I wish fate and DGB were in this...

It would be so much easier to show that bombers town.

Great job. Most pro town player. Gone.

If it wasn't now it would be later. Bomberman obviously has issues with certain people on this site if already left once and returned looking for a better game. The fact that he returned on an alt always says that people had issues with

him

.

No i retired for awhile and went off to do better things, i came back on an alt to spy on some people, whether certain people did have 'issues' with me, is none of your buisness, don't spread shit you don't know.

[Bomberman]

He flew off the handle rather quickly and I am pretty sure no one who was questioning him expected him to flip a shit like that. Not even my shit flipping was that bad.

Oh, you're back? I thought you left already.

The way you answered probably confirms that there is trouble in your past.

fuck off, seriously, stop trying to meta me with things aren't related to game

Also, what you just said proves that you are lieing. Before you said, I never confirmed alt or hydra. When in fact, you stated you used your email for a hydra, and you just now said you made an alt.

It's called changing your e-mail you cunt, it's pretty obvious if someone where to try to meta me they would look at my e-mail or other stupid shit.

i did, look at the join date.

Either way, Lynch all Liars or scummy behavior, I don't like your slot.

LAL is dumb to go by and you should hang yourself for it.

also oblivious was used in context, eat shit

[Bomberman]

were*

god so angry can't even type right