NY Mafia 155 - New Age Mafia II - Game Over!

[iamausername]

Scooby leans town and nhammen scum. By the way.

and yet your vote remains on Tierce.

VOTE: umoms

[iamausername]

is this a reaction test or what

i only count 9 votes

[iamausername]

ok cool

[iamausername]

Seriously, anyone who had reasons for thinking umoms was scummy... for fucks sake, die already.

This statement bothers me a lot. AGar seems to be far too sure that no one could have had valid reasons to think umoms was scummy. I don't think he even knows what the reasons are in most cases, and yet he blanket condemns them all.

Do you realize that this appears very much like trying to stifle discussion, right? This is very odd, especially after your comment that the game has a slow start.

This is also bothersome, because saying it 'appears like' stifling discussion suggests that nhammen knows that is not actually umoms' intent. But nhammen has been so consistent in sounding contrived at all times that I suspect it could be a personality tell more than a scumtell. Could do some meta reading to get a better idea if this is true or not, but let's be honest, I probably can't be bothered.

Unvote, Vote redFF

. Found somewhere better for my vote. I don't like the general brushing aside of the wagon just because it was quick. Justifying the fact that he and everyone else was only in it for the lol quicklynch, and there was generally nothing behind it. Giving people shit for prying into the votes on a bandwagon (spoiler alert: kind of the result of early bandwagoning, brah).

Yeah, unlike, say Tierce, who is sticking to her ridiculous guns, redFF is trying desperately to play down his association with the attempted quicklynch when he was one of the biggest proponents of it. And his attack on Rhinox in post 119 is tremendously insincere. He clearly didn't have a problem with Rhinox wanting umoms to address the points against her when he made post 99, but as soon as Rhinox starts getting some backlash, suddenly Rhinox is being totally dumb to suggest that there's anything for umoms to address. I don't see how you can reconcile those two posts.

UNVOTE: umoms
VOTE: redFF

[iamausername]

that is absolutely beside the point.

you didn't have a problem with Rhinox until other people did.

[iamausername]

You seem to be being

really

conservative and cautious with your language.

I am not sure what I'm supposed to do with this information.

that is absolutely beside the point.

you didn't have a problem with Rhinox until other people did.

I can't be suspicious of someone if someone else is suspicious of him?

The problem is that you seem to be suspicious only

because

someone else was suspicious.

- Rhinox does a thing.
- You post, showing clear awareness that Rhinox has done this thing, and no suspicion of him for doing it.
- Other people post, saying that the thing Rhinox did was suspicious.
- You post again, and

now

you're suspicious of the thing that Rhinox did.

Why did it take so long for you to realise that what Rhinox did was supicious?

[iamausername]

I don't see where I said I had no suspicion of Rhinox?

So you're saying you

were

suspicious of Rhinox when you made post 99, but you were still comfortable pushing for a quicklynch on the person he was voting?

iunno either, I was just reading through your posts and I noticed you called nhammen out for really contrived language -- which is a super legit point -- and then I realised you'd been posting more conservatively and cautiously too, but more subtly to the point where it could be subconscious, even? nhammen smacks of someone using contrived language because he's not comfortable with this playerlist, whereas you smack of someone using contrived language because you don't want to draw attention to yourself.

OK. Thanks for letting me know.

[iamausername]

@iaun
I don't really remember how I felt towards Rhinox when I made post 99, though it was definitely his posting on the next page that made me think more about him, so no I wouldn't say I was suspicious of him around post 99.

Could you be more specific about what prompted your suspicion of Rhinox? Because I'm having trouble seeing post 119 as a reaction to anything besides post 91.

You're putting words in my mouse and trying to get an wagon going on "easy pray" now that people are calling you out for lurking.

I'm pretty sure nhammen would be much easier prey if that was what I was doing.

[iamausername]

Prod dodging while massclaim is happening.

[iamausername]

not sure why we need to wait for rhinox to pick someone else

I mean if we're letting people opt out of following the prescribed order, we lose whatever tenuous advantage we might gain from applying it, which i believe was pretty fucking minuscule already, but we still keep the disadvantage of it wasting a whole lot of time.

let's just get this shit done. everybody claim in their next post.

i'm a cop.

pedit: high fives for tierce

[iamausername]

I claim VT.

UNVOTE: redFF
VOTE: nhammen

He said "I claim VT", not "I am a VT".

I just searched through 8 pages of nhammen posts on the site containing the word 'claim', and found these examples of nhammen claiming roles as scum:

Since I am the only unclaimed person here, I'm going to claim VT right now. Sorry to disappoint Pine, apparently there is no Doctor.

I saw that we are doing a massclaim, and thanks to the fact that silver asked for me to be next to claim at the top of a page, I know that I am next.

Claim: VT

and these examples of nhammen claiming roles as town:

I have a feeling that I'm going to be lynched before I can claim, so I'll do that now. I'm an odd-day cop with a bulletproof vest.

It seems it is time for me to claim. I am a roleblocker. And I would also make claims about the intelligence of the people on this wagon, but I think that would be against the site rules.

and precisely zero counter examples.

Let's lynch nhammen.

[iamausername]

Iam's post on nhammen is potentially great. How big is this sample size?

Well, I searched for all nhammen posts including the word 'claim' and looked through those for any posts that were actually claims, and not nhammen talking about other people's claims or just using the word in a different context entirely, and those four were the only ones I found. So my assumption is that any other time he's claimed, he's just said "I'm a doc" or whatever, without first saying "GUESS IT'S TIME FOR ME TO CLAIM" as in the examples I found. My search wasn't completely exhaustive, mind, I may have missed some claims that were buried further into posts than the post previews on the search screen showed.

So, the sample size is kinda four, kinda every post nhammen has ever made.

then you came back and claimed when it was pretty much agreed that the MC was dead at that point.

wait what

How do you reach the conclusion that it is 'pretty much agreed that the massclaim is dead' when everybody has claimed but you, umoms and Quag?

[iamausername]

Mod: Request replacement

Sorry to have to do this, but I just started a new job, and at the same time, my laptop is succumbing to entropy and its ability to connect to the internet is becoming increasingly sporadic. I think I'd be kidding myself if I tried to pretend I could keep up with any mafia games right now.