I like Mastin for Town, I like Dry-fit and Yiley for scum.
Either works, but let's go for Yiley.
Take a wild guess why I'm on it.In post 213, Matias wrote:Are you saying the wagon is ON scum, or the wagon itself is scum?In post 211, T S O wrote:No, this wagon is scum. I feel it in my bones.
Who needs to read Bulba'sIn post 240, Slandaar wrote:TSO I see you have not been reading any of Bulba's posts.In post 48, Bulbazak wrote: Fire & Ice is in the title. I think it's pretty clear it's multiball.
I also see you missed Mastins.
Why?
Do you think this vote is based on JKLM's scumminess or his ability?
The part where he asks the scummiest post is bad, I'll admit. The rest? Laziness, and I sure can empathise with that.In post 198, JKLM wrote:This game further proves that I will have difficulty forever on trying to read gamr.
I've got nothing to say right now honestly so I'm gonna sit back and watch a lot of this. May as well ask a question to mastin, TSO and matias: what is the scummiest post so far?
This looks to me like standard scumhunting. Wrong, but not scummy. I can't understand where you picked up that he felt ashamed of the other team running up ...Town? Why would he even be ashamed of that?In post 79, JKLM wrote:VOTE: yuni
Sorry but you're def scum now with that post containing your crappy reads list and she melds self counterwagoning which is partially my fault for building. Let's lych you tidy shall we?
I don't even know why you quoted this.In post 64, JKLM wrote:No you wouldn't. As town you would have.
He asks Mastin because he doesn't feel he has the necessary pull or authority to do it by himself. This is insecure town.
No thanks.In post 284, Bulbazak wrote:We need more JKLM votes.
If you don't like it, then explain why.In post 300, Slandaar wrote:TSO you didn't explain why the DryFit wagon is the wagon to be on. In your own time.
Good people on it, sound reasoning for it, TSO stamp of approval. What more is there?In post 350, Slandaar wrote:Uh, no, that isn't how this works. The Dry-Fit wagon is based on a non-issue from what I can tell.In post 327, T S O wrote: If you don't like it, then explain why.
You explain why it's such a great wagon that I must be on it!
Oh God, you didn't catch his softclaim?In post 357, PeregrineV wrote:Just skimmed back through and didn't see it. Post#?In post 342, T S O wrote:What did you think of Matias' claim, Pere?
I completely understand where you're coming from, but are you sure aptil is scum as opposed to a fool?In post 483, Garmr wrote:So Tso you see nothing wrong with hammer? I'm extremely frustrated at that hammer I felt I had found genuine scum and The hammer seemed opportunistic as I had just built momentum on JKLM. It felt like all my reads were pissed on and then shoved down my fucking throat.
You're so remarkably surface deep in your perceptions.In post 484, YuniChikako wrote:Well. No reason given from Aptil to vote Dry-fit, this is certainly interesting. TSO, I'd like to know why you seem to dismiss that hammer. Possible maf partner noted.
Oh my gosh Maxouswasmaf. I feel so happy.
VOTE: Aptil, and he better give me a good reason why he's inno if he wants to change my vote
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I agree, but I was townreading YC. Hmm.In post 493, Bulbazak wrote:Hello Ice Scum.In post 484, YuniChikako wrote:Well. No reason given from Aptil to vote Dry-fit, this is certainly interesting. TSO, I'd like to know why you seem to dismiss that hammer. Possible maf partner noted.
Oh my gosh Maxouswasmaf. I feel so happy.
VOTE: Aptil, and he better give me a good reason why he's inno if he wants to change my vote
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Shameless wagon-hopping RVS vote screams of opportunism.In post 47, Dry-fit wrote:VOTE: YuniChikako
I'm excited to see in the next vote count if the mods are serious about only counting votes with vote tags.
Slides away from the wagon with vague reasoning. Gives vague reads and weakens them using words like "seems". Barely has any reads.In post 116, Dry-fit wrote:Yuni's response to her wagon looked townish.
Unvote.
About mastin's townslip: I see it, but it's not the kind of thing I put a ton of stock in. Calling a townslip on yourself is always questionable as well.
Maxous seems town to me based on the last game I played with him but not a super strong read.
No one looks particularly scummy at the moment but I can see Toomai as scum.
Vote: Toomai.
More vague reads, more vague reasoning, more weakening of scumreads, more not following up on them.In post 186, Dry-fit wrote:Yeah I'm feeling off my game in this on so far. Are you going to explain your read on me like you said you would? And why do you want me to be a strong scumread? Have something against me?In post 162, mastin2 wrote:Dry-fit is a somewhat-strong scumread, but not nearly as strong as I'd prefer him to be.
I'm not really liking Yiley right now. Didn't follow up on his Yuni vote and hasn't brought any other scumreads to the table.
Matias' attack on the Yuni wagon doesn't feel quite right either.
Being hypocritical isn't scummy, therefore my hypocrisy is okay.In post 220, Dry-fit wrote:I would like mastin to explain his read on me at some point.
It doesn't even end with looking scummy. I haven't gotten any scumreads better than marginal and only a couple townreads I would consider solid.In post 203, Desperado wrote: Don't like apologizing for looking scummy, don't like buddying Mastin, and I really don't like the hypocritical, voteless mudsling on Yiley.
I don't see how my post is buddying mastin.
I should point out that I've made the case that being hypocritical can be legitimate multiple times as town.
This post is filled with poor reasoning, I'm not going through it all.In post 269, Dry-fit wrote:Because it wasn't a good reason to suspect Slandaar. It's possible for a read like that to come from a townie with a playstyle issue, but it was something that is likely to come from scum. You may have seen things differently, but I've got news for you. Not everyone sees things the same way you do.In post 221, Matias wrote:In the same vein, how can anyone instantly believe that Yuni had scum motivation behind posting her first post?
Did you read the links explaining my views about hypocrisy, or are you not interested in actually determining my alignment?Desperado wrote:You're allegedly town and you don't feel comfortable putting forth any scumreads but are voting someone for doing the same. If anything, Yiley's apparent difficulty in acquiring scumreads be a towntell to town-you who is having difficulty acquiring townreads.
Maxous' play looks different from when I last played with him in Hunter X Hunter mafia where he was scum. He was playing a much more passive game there. Plus he has his vote in a good place on Toomai. I don't expect this to convince you but that's my view on him.Matias wrote:If anyone can convince me of:
-Maxous town
-Yiley scum
good luck and I will be impressed.
Actually you might be right about Yiley. 245 feels like it's coming from town.
Also if one of TSO or mastin is scum I think the other is based on post 167 I didn't think TSO's was much of a townslip.
I don't think you've ever seen me as scum.In post 563, Garmr wrote:I can see JKLM being scum still. But I also saw his last post was on 22nd of December so voting him now would make pressure absolutely useless. So I think I will give the player who enters it a big hard push because I think it's now obvious JKLM will replace out.
The Slaandar vs Tso help reassures me that slaandar is town I have a couple of doubts on tso I find him hard to read as I see him as scum in most my games He rarely appears town. He appears scummier than Usual this game So I support a tso lynch.
Also like someone said before Njac opener post was meh but the following questions were good.
Desps vote on yiley is unexpected not in a bad way through I was kinda losing faith in desp after the Dry fit lynch.
Mastin you mention before pretty much through out day 1 thatSo what do you think linked aptil to bulb and what was the major factor that changed it.In post 397, mastin2 wrote:-Aptil scum with Bulbazak, or town.
Still a lot player base has remained silent and lurky ....
What posts, specifically?In post 589, Bulbazak wrote:I think he's playing it very carefully, because he doesn't have to contend with just town this time. He knows that his normal play would probably result in him being killed, and he knows that would be bad for his team (Remember, he's against bussing for similar reasons.). He's laying low, and I read over his posts, and I know for a fact that we're not dealing with town Mastin this game.
Mastin analysed Maxous' readlists and came up with conclusions. To test his mindset, I did it myself before looking at his conclusions. We had the same ones.In post 660, Toomai wrote:I'm not seeing any past Maxous and mastin2 readslists being the same. Can you clarify?In post 657, T S O wrote:So went back and re-read for the sole purpose of sorting out Mastin. To really test this, I looked at readslists, got my conclusions, then checked his.
re: Maxous' readslists, they're exactly the same, exactly. the. same.
Bulba, I tried, but pretty sure you're incorrect here.
Alternatively, I was town and clueless, because I was almost replaced before I even posted.In post 683, Slandaar wrote:Yes it probably would be, but, your question isn't really applicable. Think about how many people said they didn't realise it was multiball, there were quite a few, this shows not everyone knew (they are not all going to be scum - I didn't realise myself either). If not everyone knew then you can't assume the scum knew it was advertised as such and behaved in accordance with that information.In post 672, Toomai wrote:But isn't it a distinct disadvantage for scum to come into a game advertised and titled as multiball and act like it isn't?
Take TSO as a better, more specific, example, for him to be town he must genuinely not have known the game was advertised as multiball. This means, if he is scum he would also not have known it is advertised as such (he would know it IS but not that it is advertised). This means he would post as if he didn't know it was multiball because to come in acting like it is multiball when he doesn't know town know is a surefire way to get lynched in him mind.
No, not good.In post 740, Desperado wrote:Unvote
Vote: Yuni
Still think Yuni and Penguin are not on the same team and Penguin's initial reads look really good to me. Especially the Yuni bit, which generally would give me some pause but the point she raises is so damn good (and unique, unless I missed someone else already bringing it up) that it makes up for her coming in and FOSing her counterwagon.
he's so town misguided, though. you can see he was geared up to go after me because he was mad yesterday I wasn't answering.In post 742, evilpacman18 wrote:how is anybody reading Slandaar as town god damn
It's more so bad because it has a complete lack of imput from me - I dislike sheeping in most forms. The case itself was rather convincing.In post 768, mastin2 wrote:Then you weren't really convinced by Matias, then, were you?In post 767, T S O wrote:This is incredibly bad, but it's all I got.