NY 171: An Education in Telling Jokes (Game Over!)

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no one's dismantling shit, I just don't want some knucklehead to end the day yet

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looking forward to your in depth analysis Cabd

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I'll get my umbrella cause you goan make it rain

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read

the motherfuckin game

before

you motherfuckin post

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is reading just not in your fucking skillset? I specifically said I still wanted the zekrom lynch TODAY I just want to give Cabd time to post reads because it'll be useful regardless of his alignment

so take your misrep and shove it up your anime avatar having ass

christ almighty what is it with you motherfuckers with anime avatars

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the lynch is going to happen regardless of how many votes are on him right now

we have enough knuckleheads in this game that I don't trust tman or whoever to not hammer his ass prematurely, and frankly neither should you

so getcha damn vote off him before more stupid bullshit happens this game

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thanks mollie will do

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well I don't know how to tell you this, but there's more than one knucklehead in this playerlist

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forest for the trees, friend

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is that all you plan on doing, Cabd?

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no, I was just wondering if it was time for me to revote

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God dammit cabd

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this game is making my soul cry

I'm still pretty happy with lynching from Cabd's scum list

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I don't really care about Nik or PV. Marquis' vote was scummy and opportunistic as shit.

he's scum.

can we lynch it please.

unvote vote Marquis

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I'd also like to lynch Mala

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shut the FUCK up

is reading just not in your fucking skillset? I specifically said I still wanted the zekrom lynch TODAY I just want to give Cabd time to post reads because it'll be useful regardless of his alignment

so take your misrep and shove it up your anime avatar having ass

christ almighty what is it with you motherfuckers with anime avatars

I absolutely want Zekrom to die, but I want to let Cabd do his thing first. It's useful regardless of his alignment tbqh.

Ythan you know I'm on board with a Zekrom lynch, but help me out here

there's players in the game who are scummy instead of just terribad. when do you want to talk about that instead of doing this NK speculation?

holy fuck

vote Zekrom

if he's town AT LEAST we'll have confirmation that scum has a RB

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I'm not fucking talking about yesterday everyone knew he was scum yesterday

day 1 I wanted Zekrom to die immediately like there wasn't even a chance he was town, every single post in his ISO added up to cautious scum combined with direct copy-and-paste QT coaching, and it's so much easier for fellow scum to go with "oh well in case he's vig let's let him live to shoot ok!!" (scum translation: "we want to give him a chance to put the RB to good use")

I'm still upset over not lynching him Day 1 and having to lynch the RB and get 2 real town PRs nightkilled over it

stop fucking pushing for a lynch on me, I'll annoy you however much I want, whatever, but I'm town so gtfo

so you know I was pushing him Day 1 when he roleclaimed and then said "let's lynch him tomorrow if he's lying"

right?

and no.

your reaction to this whole situation reads as scum "correctly reading" people's alignments were and pointlessly trying to chastise people for not being in lockstep with you while trying to angle for some town cred for being "right".

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Guess I could vote Marquis - if only to stop the annoying bitching.

then get the fuck on with it. sooner or later you're going to have to have opinions

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DeathNote...you know that was at Yates right?

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oh you were responding to PV

reading is tech

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Someone was calling someone else scum in an insanely scummy half-assed way.

Remember anything like that?

Found it

The thing is I had a heavy scumread outside of UT before the info got erased and now I'm just trying to figure out who it was.

VOTE: UT for now.

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this next sentence is not about the bronchitis it's about the stuff you wrote about zekrom:

no one cares about your pity parade. you were trying to protect someone who has since flipped scum.

in fact

unvote vote Malakittens

let's get this thing done, people

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I'm very aware my fluff isn't about the bronchitis you asshat. I'm letting everyone know that I finally went to the doctors because I felt I wasn't getting any better because it was more than just a 'cold/flu'. I also don't want pity, I want fucking sleep. My last sentence wasn't because I wanted pity, but to let people know that I'm slowly going to get better.

um, I'm just going to address this because it's not game related, but I said specifically that your pity parade wasn't about you having bronchitis, it was about the zekrom stuff. I'm sorry to hear you're sick. Hope you get better soon.

anyway

moving on

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vote for the pity parade, tman

it wasn't a town post

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well look who showed up as soon as a wagon built on her

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oh so NOW you want to lynch Marquis

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I've been saying that shit since day 1 so glad someone else has actually, you know, read his posts finally

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yeah I mean she's lurkaderping and it's bad

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I thought it was when 1 scumbuddy hard defends another 1

mebbe you shld teach meh

kinda

The general form of this tell is "a player who defends another player by attacking the other player's attacker is very probably scum".
The key to identifying this tell is intent - it is possible to confuse Chainsaw Defense with a player who simply finds the attacker scummy and has no intent of defense. In general, you can be reasonably sure that this tell is involved if a) the player supposedly using Chainsaw Defense has not previously been especially critical of the player he is now attacking, and b) the player supposedly using Chainsaw Defense seems to find the player he is supposedly defending at least reasonably pro-town.
The extreme form of this tell is Mutual Chainsaw Defense, where two players defend each other by attacking each others' attackers. This is a major scumtell, and Tarhalindur would be willing to lynch/vig both players with only this tell as justification.
The Chainsaw Defense is named after the mental image of a player ripping apart another player with a chainsaw for daring to attack his ally. It should not be confused with the Cochrane Defense, which can also be referred to as the Chainsaw Defense (the Wiki refers to the Cochrane Defense this way), which is a gambit made by players investigated as scum. The Chainsaw Defense can also be referred to as the Bodyguard Defense in order to prevent confusion.
UPDATE: After further analysis, Tarhalindur has determined that the Chainsaw Defense is only trustworthy once the player defended has been revealed to be group scum (once the player defended is proved to be Mafia, any player that used Chainsaw Defense on the dead scum should be scrutinized). Otherwise, it is a null tell. Mutual Chainsaw Defense may, however, still be an outright scumtell; more research is required here.

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PS LET'S LYNCH FUCKIN MALA OMG

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eh

I'm not super into trying to catch multiple scum at once, so I kind of want to see what mala flips and then reevaluate

let's focus on lynching the one scum first

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still Marquis

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that's just my gut reaction based on my current reads

I'd have to reread today and so how her lynchwagon went and then go from there

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Are you off the Marquis is scum kick? Also, do you know Marquis' alt? Also also, what's your opinion on RC?

dude, I literally just said I'm still scumreading marquis. like. two posts up.

second, if Marquis is an alt or has an alt it's up to HIM whether or not that becomes public information. stop fishing for that, it's incredibly bad form.

third, I think RC is a fucking idiot and I'd really like them to replace out.

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mollie listen

I'm not going to try to apply relational tells to players based on unflipped players

once mala flips I will reevaluate. until then it's a distraction to me.

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and it's from the wiki

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why are you asking for my thoughts if I'm one of your scumreads?

PEdit ninja'd by mollie

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mollie I have a crazy idea

and it's lynching pisskop

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tomorrow

if mala flips scum

I saw we go after pisskop

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considering that wagon before Mala was the one I WAS PUSHING and other than that the day has been a gigantic clusterfuck of people casting votes for like 10000 different people, I think the argument that I'm distracting from THE TRUE SCUM LYNCH is kind of

um what's the word

oh right, fucking retarded

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yes?

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Unofficial Vote Count 3.2

Malakittens (7) - Porochaz, Untrod Tripod, tman2nd, Ythan, pirate mollie, DeathNote, Elyse
Nikanor (2) - Malakittens, Yates
PeregrineV (2) - Green Crayons, Marquis
Yates (2) - serrapaladin, Nikanor
Marquis (1) - pisskop
pisskop (1) - evilpacman18
Untrod Tripod (1)- RadiantCowbells
serrapaladin (1) - PeregrineV

Not Voting (0)

The deadline for Day 3 is Thursday, March 13th, at 8:00 PM EST. With 17 people alive, it takes 9 to lynch. Deadline in (expired on 2014-03-13 20:00:00).

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deadline is in 33 hours. we only need 2 votes.

can we lynch mala plz

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what the fuck mollie

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okay well you have 31 hours

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that's L-2 again

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(mala if you're reading the thread now would be a great time to claim if you're town and give reads etc.)

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sup notsci

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MOLLIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Marquis you have 2 pages to convince me you're town before I run you into the ground go

we're lynching Marquis tomorrow

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you've been lurking all game not just when you were sick

try again

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...excuse me?did you just claim encryptor AS TOWN

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Pisskop don't you fucking do this

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I'm gonna be honest, if she honestly is a town encryptor who gives daytalk to any groups that could have it

lynching her would hurt scum

and she's been a useless lurker

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I'm gonna be honest, if she honestly is a town encryptor who gives daytalk to any groups that could have it

I don't even know what her role claim means, but I definitely don't understand this mechanic.

Explanations, please.

The encryptor is passive and won't be blocked or stopped unless I die. I give daytalk to anything that needs daytalk. (Don't even start any role speculation because we don't need unncessary claims.)

read the motherfucking thread etc.

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trying to push me as a lynch candidate is laughable

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what are you waiting on him for? ain't nobody going to nightkill him.

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holy shit serra that was awful

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glad we're on the same page notty

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idgaf as long as he eats rope

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shh he's buddying me right now don't interrupt

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notty if you're bussing marquis I'll leave you alive until lylo cross my heart

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desp plz

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she's already dead PV

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...can we please just do a utility lynch on RC

please

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SO ABOUT THAT RC LYNCH

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RC, if anything you need to apologize to the rest of the game for taking up a slot and refusing to participate in the game or replace out

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Well also his play yesterday was baaaaaaaaad

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That doesn't make him scum. At all.

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A. That doesn't give him town cred
B. Day talk is not uncommon
c. He was listing it as a possibility for how zek reacted to the gamestate the way he did, not as a "this is how it happened I am nostradamus" type of thing

Look you might be right that nik is scum. I'm just pointing out that your reasoning is flawed

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Oh and

vote RC

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No, it'd still be flawed.

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strange = scummy?

look, I'm a pedantic shithead a lot of the time. my discussion with DN regarding nikanor was my pedantic shitheadedness. it's not strange.

also if you really thought Yates was scum how about you push the case rather than say "yeahhhh I think he's scum but WHATEVS"

Really I'd love to lynch both of them, but I want the serra wagon first.

unvote vote serrapaladin

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what's what who said

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Marquis has been just saying stupid bullshit all game

why is this now a surprise to you

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you're not wrong, and I've been such a dick to you this game that I'm probably willing to go along with what you're suggesting

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well notscience did replace EPM the lurking scumfuck

maybe he's lurking scum too!

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we could just wagon Marquis to L-1 to make him claim

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he's not, but can we just fucking run someone, Marquis Nik serra idgaf, up

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aight

unvote vote Nikanor

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Nik needs to claim

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someone needs to fucking hammer

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why serra?

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is reading just not in your fucking skillset? I specifically said I still wanted the zekrom lynch TODAY I just want to give Cabd time to post reads because it'll be useful regardless of his alignment

so take your misrep and shove it up your anime avatar having ass

christ almighty what is it with you motherfuckers with anime avatars

inorite

ut I really really feel like you are town plz remind me of this if I decide to get weird on you

sup mollie

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marquis you are fucking pathetic

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yeah I could do pisskop

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this is just going to be spyparty mafia all over again, isn't it mollie

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I bussed my roleblocker D1 and then bussed my encryptor D3

seems good

PEdit:
shit, you're right. wasn't I in a game with you where all your reads were wrong and you spent the whole game calling me scum and then we lost

am I thinking of someone else!?

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now would be fine

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will you claim at L-1

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show of hands?

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waste their NK on an IC

um

an outted mason is like... a required scumkill

and you trying to out the remaining mason is so bad holy shit

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vote yates

fuck it I think we're about done here today

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dude

yates is openly trying to out the masons and then saying the mafia won't kill them

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mason*

sometimes you've got to shift gears when the scum walks up and shows you their naughty parts

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is marquis doing that?

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oh my god the agony

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so I guess it IS going to be bipolar mafia all over again, isn't it mollie?

you've spent this whole damn game ignoring scum lynches and tilting at windmills that NO ONE ELSE CARES ABOUT and I guess I'm just your latest one

it's fine, we can win this game without you

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although I guess RC will be delighted that someone else got on the moonbeam with them

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your lynch won't go through? do tell.

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because she's town?

the whole argument is kind irrelevant because I'm townreading you mollie, and going through your iso I'm seeing you scumreading mala, but I guess it just kind of set me off that the lynch happened and you were nowhere to be found and you were actively against the zekrom lynch

~anyway~

SO HOW ABOUT THAT YATES-MALA RELATIONAL TELL I SAW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHEN I REREAD YOUR ISO?!?!?!

YEAH?!

LET'S DO IT!??!?!?!

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blood and thunder

let none remain

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ehhh yeah serra's iso is bad news bears. I can get down with this lynch.

unvote vote serra

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I'm considering it. I don't really want to deal with her right now tbqh.

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hell, earlier in the game I was trying to make that lynch happen and barely anyone was willing to go along with it.

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RC's play this game has been unfathomably bad. It was a perfectly fine early utility lynch, and I really wish we'd done it instead of that godawful sth8 lynch.

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heyyyyyy guys deathnote is completely right about RC Yates and tman being superior lynches

can someone on the wagon (SO KEEP YOUR THOUGHTS IN YOUR POCKET SERRA) give a synopsis right quick

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I just don't even fucking know with this game anymore

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purge it with cleansing fire

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isn't that a lynch....?

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Marquis is fucking useless

she's been fucking useless all game

I don't know how you have the capacity to be surprised

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I mean, she's gonna say "okay fine" then vote me and then RC is going to contentless vote me too because LOL NOT PLAYING THE GAME IS FUNNY ANIME AVATAR ALIANCE DESU DESU DESU

jesus tittyfucking christ I want to purge the game of all the VIs and just go from there it may not be the high value play but it would certainly make the rest of the game less PAINFUL

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sorry i want to lynch scum

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looks like it's on serra right now

where's your marquis vote, mollie

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will you just hammer this motherfucker

look at serra's reactions to his wagon. it's terribad

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okay great HE'LL STILL BE SCUM TOMORROW

are you like hardcore townreading serra?

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okay well serra is SITTING AT L-1 right now so if you're scumreading him at all it would really be great if you could hammer him

I will carry your torch for notty if you're not around tomorrow.

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why

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you know I'm going to need more than that.

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you know I'm going to need more than that.

since when do you need more? usually you are all like OMG CAN WE JUST SOME1 I DON'T CARE WHO LYNCH THEM I JUST WANT SOMETHING TO SEE SOMETHING DEAD ARE THEY DEAD YET WHY AREN'T THEY DEAD ARE THEY DEAD YET HOW ABOUT NOW

so why is notty so special? do you have a town read on him?

you're trying to derail an L-1 wagon on someone whose reactions to the wagon are really scummy. That is why I need more.

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could you be a lamb and claim your buddies?

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what's your role then?

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Just a VT, I'm afraid

summon los ropas!

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WE WILL DO NS TOMORROW

OKAY?!?!?!?!

if my first post tomorrow is not a vote for NS you can lynch me.

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no one will owe you SHIT if he flips town

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you have had forever to do that. no one owed you more time. no one is going to fucking apologize to you.

and I am only making a big deal about this because it is a BULLSHIT tactic to get people to respect your reads in this game more for no real reason.

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that being said, mollie, I'm townreading you and we agree about notscience so tomorrow he dies

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okay that was pretty uncalled for. sorry

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lyncher? neat.

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...I don't understand what you're doing right now

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my penis is 13 inches long

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I'm pretty positive that at least one of us will be, and that's enough.

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look

if notty is scum then I bussed three of my buddies in a row

how brave do you think I am

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or four I guess, assuming serra flips scum?

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Bah!

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oh deathnote

I will make you pay

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oh deathnote

I will make you pay

Lol... be honest. Did my argument with you early game make me look scummy? If so, why didn't you ever push me as scum?

Also, it isn't hard to make me pay. I am dreadfully bad at this game >.<

It did. I felt bad because you're such a swell dude and it seemed like you were genuinely mad.

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I do appreciate your arguments for me being a worthwhile scum kill!