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In post 66, Alina wrote:I remember seeing that as well, but I highly doubt he'd use the same one for this game.
@Reinoe
Oh my god! You DO exist! But I don't know. I don't think I've ever touched mine yet.
You should. You're on mine
I'm in like three games with Reinoe right now, and he's pissing me off in all of them. He's about to spend the whole game creating walls of useless fluff.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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In post 70, Alina wrote:In post 69, Aeronaut wrote:walls of useless fluff.
Leave that to notscience.
AND OH MY GOD I'M IN YOUR FAVORITE PEOPLE. You're in mine too. In my head that is. <3 I'll update mine soon then since now I have 2 completed games.
In post 70, Alina wrote:In post 69, Aeronaut wrote:walls of useless fluff.
Leave that to notscience.
AND OH MY GOD I'M IN YOUR FAVORITE PEOPLE. You're in mine too. In my head that is. <3 I'll update mine soon then since now I have 2 completed games.
Aegor and Oka are there too, so this is a great game for me.
Down to business though, Reinoe, I actually am interested in that setup you found. 3:3:1 would be a nice change of pace, and so much potential for crossfire.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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In post 97, Elyse wrote:In post 80, RoyalApe wrote:In post 73, Elyse wrote:
I thought you were voting Oka for being quick to want to lynch someone? Why do you think he's anxious?
With absolutely nothing else to go on, seemed like as good of a reason as anybody else has used so far. VOTE: Elyse for tunneling onto a RVS vote.
You didn't answer my question. Why did you vote for OkaPoka? Because he wanted to lynch someone early or because he was anxious?
If it is the former, why do you think he intended to actually lynch reinoe? If it's the latter, why do you think he's anxious?
Why are you zeroing in on a joke made in RVS?2023 W/L | 1-0-
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Elyse, is this the post in question?
In post 38, RoyalApe wrote:
VOTE: Vote: OkaPoka, you couldn't even wait 5 minutes before you felt the urge to lynch somebody. EVIL.
This is very obviously a joke. It's funny because he's voting someone during RVS for voicing someone during RVS. It's a page 2 RVS joke. Either you really don't see it, you're scum trying to jump on a non-reason lynch. I'm thinking the latter.
VOTE: Elyse
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In post 244, tree wrote:for a game that feels like it's still in RVS people are really mad about other people... doing things
We're not in RVS.Why are you trying to keep us there?2023 W/L | 1-0-
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In post 269, T S O wrote:In post 266, Aeronaut wrote:The problem with lynching Reinoe is that his trolling isn't really alligent indicative. If it really becomes a problem later, then maybe we should consider it, but right now I still have a null read on him.
He's going to disrupt this game.
Either he disrupts day 1, 2 and 3 before he's lynched.
Or he disrupts 2 more pages.
But either way, we don't know his alligent. Do you think it's more beneficial to lynch scum, or someone who's fluffing up the game to help the scum?2023 W/L | 1-0-
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Sorry, my last post was directed at Reinoe, not TSO.
In post 275, T S O wrote:He will literally spam the shit out of this thread and cause apathy for everyone. He's the closest thing to a plague on this forum.
That's my final word on the matter.
But he hasn't yet. I don't believe in lynching someone based on passed games. It's what he does in this game that counts.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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Also, my V/LA is up, Mod. Thanks everyone for putting up with it.
I sort of want to do a full reads list, but I simply don't have reads on every single person yet. Especially Aegor and Mirhawk, where've they been?
P-edit: Ehh, true. He's null at least, though. We can't know he's scum just based on being trolley.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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Eh, it says he reserves the right to change the rules at any time, though, so we can't know for sure. Besides, why are we fighting about the setup again? I also don't understand the correlation between TSO "lying" about an open setup, and you getting lynched.
Also, My bad, Aegor is V/LA.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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Because once he says it, it's obviously there for the scum to see too, not just the town. Are you rolefishing right now?2023 W/L | 1-0-
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In post 423, farside22 wrote:I'm half reading this game. Lots of little things and some I felt good about and others I wonder about.
I'm a bit loopy tired but I like pysche a bit more and tso.
I think I need to reread a few people like tree, oka, elyse and maybe renioe to make sure I'm not crazy.
Also question to either aero or renioe (since you two I remember from the last normal) does anything feel off about Alina to you?
I think she's a bit more confident this round. Not sure if that's anything. I feel like she's sort of hard to read, because she literally always seems town to me. She's null for me at the moment.
@People voting tree: I'm not really sure that a crappy IC claim is enough to lynch someone. What else has tree done that's really scummy?
P-edit: And Reinoe jumping on the wagon... :/2023 W/L | 1-0-
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In post 439, Elyse wrote:In post 218, Aeronaut wrote:Elyse, do you have reads besides this?
At that point, no. Did you?
@RoyalApe
I'm done pursuing this vote further because obviously it's now starting to cause more harm than good.
But your "question" to me "Are you defending Oka" seemed rhetoric because of the "should I be poking you" and "HMMMMM?". That's why I posted those two separately.
In post 259, reinoe wrote:In post 216, Elyse wrote:It's ok though because we're out of RVS! (Despite reinoe and co trying to keep us in it)
Now when you all realize that voting me for pressuring an RVS vote is stupid, we can get on with the game. If you seriously think scum would do this and try to ride it out to a lynch on RoyalApe, then lol ok.
lulz at the fakeness here.
VOTE: Elyse
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Explain.
I agree with tree wrt feeling like we're still in RVS. And saying that he feels that way doesn't mean he's keeping us in there, Aeronaut.
In post 301, Aeronaut wrote:Eh...I think Reinoe is probably town. Honestly. Scum Reinoe is serious and focused, and that's just not what we have here.He does like to change playstyles I guess, but either way it's null.
Town or null?
In post 410, Aeronaut wrote:Psyche, you literally don't make sense ever.
I'd be down with a tree lynch, but I'm not feeling good about Oka.The aggressiveness rubs me wrong, and it sort of feels like he's trying way to hard to make it look like he's scumhunting.
That's how I feel about you actually.
In post 427, Aeronaut wrote:
@People voting tree: I'm not really sure that a crappy IC claim is enough to lynch someone. What else has tree done that's really scummy?
Wait you literally just said in the post I quoted above that you'd be down with a tree lynch.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Aeronaut
I changed my mind about wanting to lynch tree once people started jumping on the wagon with reasoning like this:
In post 426, reinoe wrote:In post 424, tree wrote:stop the fighting
And start the lynchings!
VOTE: tree
That sort of worries me. As soon as I say "maybe we should lynch tree", three people jump on it immediately. That freaks me out.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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In post 301, Aeronaut wrote:Eh... I think Reinoe is probably town. Honestly. Scum Reinoe is serious and focused, and that's just not what we have here. He does like to change playstyles I guess, but either way it's null.
I said he is probably town. His latest interactions have brought him back to null.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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But why is he town? What has he done to help the town? That's the fucking question.
It's not just that post you dingbat. I've been saying for the past day I'm not really sure about tree yet. For awhile I decided he'd probably be an alright lynch. Then I thought about it more and decided I wanted to talk about it some more before doing it. What about that do you not understand? It's like you're not reading anything and just tunneling on single posts for extended amounts of time. Its ridiculous.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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In post 461, tn5421 wrote:In post 456, Psyche wrote:In post 442, tn5421 wrote:
In post 205, tree wrote:This game is getting nowhere.
Claim: Innocent Child
Bow down bitches, bow, bow down bitches.
I think this sums it up well enough.
this is the most pathetic wagon i have ever seen
I think Tree is town - a VI. There is no conniving in his posts. A lot of players, present company included, play around too much at gamestart.
I don't quite understand why it'sthisshow of excess that generates a wagon rather than my own or others, except that Majiffy has decided so and there are enough weaker players around to go with it.
I don't mean them individually. I mean all together.
Hmmm... well he is claiming to think we were messing around... but he claimed halfway through that. But the claim sort of looks like a joke to me, though.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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In post 345, Aeronaut wrote:Yea, Tree is being fluffy too... and really all over the place. Not sure if scum yet.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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In post 466, Elyse wrote:And? I'm talking about two specific posts not even a page apart with drastically different opinions and no reasons to back them up.
I'm saying my opinion changed on Tree. No, it's not drastic. I said I'd be alright with a lynch, and then I decided that I maybe wasn't quite as sure as I thought. It's not just the posts in the middle, it's what goes on in my head. I thought about it, and I wasn't quite sure of myself anymore.
The two of us arguing is spamming up the thread. I'll ask you again. Why is Tree town to you? You've given us no info. Instead you're sitting here just trying to discredit me. It's not working. What makes Tree so town?2023 W/L | 1-0-
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In post 469, Elyse wrote:And I'm not scumreading you because it's "convenient". It's because you can't explain your actions and become aggressive when pressured for no reason other than you're being a dick and trying to make me out like the bad guy.
I actually don't really think you're scum, and I'm not making you out to be the bad guy. I explained my actions like three times. My vote on you earlier was to get you to stop focusing on one person for ten pages and give us something more substantial. It didn't work great.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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In post 464, Elyse wrote:
tree's early posts were genuine and I feel like he's trying to start discussion and keep the game moving along. Just because his attempts weren't successful or well thought-out doesn't mean the intent isn't there.
I actually did not see this the first time, and that is my bad.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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In post 486, Psyche wrote:im definitely significantly above the fiftieth percentile in terms of game engagement and content generation
and if you are above that percentile at all, it's only barely tbh
Mirhawk asks if you have reads, and instead you give us percentiles? What?2023 W/L | 1-0-
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In post 498, Mirhawk wrote:In post 495, Aeronaut wrote:So you Like Majiffy, but his Tree reasoning sucked?
More or less.
What do you think of Majiffy?
Well, he spent the first half of the game being pretty fluffy. So far his only real scumread has been tree. I don't love the reasoning, honestly. Pushing for the wagon, etc. He has been posting quite a bit in the second portion of the game, and the stuff besides the Tree wagon, I generally agree with. I'd say Null leaning a tinsey bit townish.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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In post 501, Mirhawk wrote:Gah.
Alright fine, this is better then my suspect and I admit it.
Unvote
Vote: Majiffy
I also apologize (grudgingly) for saying you weren't taking this seriously.
@Aero
From now on you're the whiffler. You whiffle on everyone.
Unless that is you tell me what it was about TN's post that made you think he was town.
I'm assuming a whiffler is someone who doesn't answer questions.
Being perfectly honest, I was phone posting in a McDonald's toilet stall. I don't really know what I was liking at the time. Looking at it now, It's sort of just TN calling people pet names. I agree with "Townreads are preferable to scumreads this early in the game", although that point has long passed by now.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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In post 506, OkaPoka wrote:nice omgus you got there.
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In post 520, OkaPoka wrote:I think gameplay is lying and was using that to allow for a possible fakelclaim. However the time wasn't right so he made up it was bannable. If he already asked if the info was bannable, why didn't he say that beforehand? He wanted to keep it to himself and never stated it wad bannable until I questioned him. He had so much possible scum motivation because of the possibility of a free lynch of a pr and him claiming something.
Didn't see this.
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In post 523, OkaPoka wrote:To lynch anyone who claims pr.
He changed his mind because the time was not right.
Why would you lynch everyone who claims a PR?2023 W/L | 1-0-
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In post 527, OkaPoka wrote:My point is that gameplay can pull a gambit with his "secret" info. He can say this pr claim is crap cuz we are all vt or something. If it is bannable and wake knows he wouldn't be playing.
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In post 538, tn5421 wrote:In post 497, Psyche wrote:I think majiffy's push on tree is fabricated. It makes sense for an RVS-ending vote, but somehow we've made it to page twenty and he still acts relatively confident that tree's pretty bland couple of fakeclaim ploys make him scum. It would be okay if he were just egging it on for tactical reasons, but I just have no doubt reading his posts that he'd be happy if tree died right now.
At this point, I think he continues to tunnel on tree just because 1) it's easier to act through than it is to look soberly at what he's doing and what could be done, and 2) tree is really easy to push and is the sort of player likely to dig his own grave. And I'm asking his sheep about the wagon so I can see if anyone else is following suit, or if theactualscum carrying out this really cliched approach to D1 is one of those. It seems pretty likely to me that the tree wagon is just too shitty not to be astroturfed.
I know I'm fooling around a lot, but it's because I can, because it's harmless. But I didn't join the game for the captive audience.
Quite frankly tree dug his own grave by trying to gambit twice, ESPECIALLY and SPECIFICALLY his IC claim.
I disagree with you on your current majiffy read, weren't you following the flowchart and sheeping majiffy 10 pages ago anyway?
I've got him as relatively neutral, slightly leaning town.
What was his second gambit? The IC one seems like a joke to me.
I don't like how Oka has to be asked to give explanations for his reads. Saying "Psych is weird" is not an explanation. It's like you have opinions, but you're afraid to share them until you absolutely have to. Making it look like you have scumreads, without giving weight to them so that nobody can suspect you. Not to mention, you're saying we should kill people who claim PRs.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is an SK.
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Yea. I forgot about the kill: Majiffy thing. I don't really see a scum motivation behind it though.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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In post 542, OkaPoka wrote:Damnit. Of course you think I am scum. Can you read that I said gameplay might want to kill prs?
Why would I want to lynch a pr when I believe that there are prs in this game.
I thought you had said you wanted to lynch them, but you were talking about Gameplay, I say.
So your saying he's trying to out PRs so he can kill them?2023 W/L | 1-0-
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